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Sally Struthers
Jun 29th, 2006, 03:49 AM
I just saw it and liked it a lot! I like Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor better than Gene Hackman. The guy who played superman himself was not all that bad, but I missed Margo "hiding in the bushes because I'm pyschotic" Kidder :tape: . The idea of Superman being portrayed as a deadbeat dad did not sit well with me though :lol:

"Sluggy"
Jun 29th, 2006, 08:09 AM
I want to see the movie soon too.

King Aaron
Jun 29th, 2006, 08:21 AM
Just saw it. It was okay, wasn't really amazing or anything. I think Kevin Spacey was great as Lex Luther. The plot was kind of predictable ;) but it was okay. I think Tom Welling would have been a better Superman. :p

Kate Bosworth :hearts:

capriatifan78
Jun 29th, 2006, 06:41 PM
I actually liked the movie. I think that Brandon Routh did a good job as Superman, and I must say I didn't mind seeing him in his tights! ;) Some of the plot was kind of predictible, but I pretty much expected that since it is an action movie. It was definitely my favorite Superman movie, and I still think that Terri Hatcher was the best Lois Lane ever. You don't see her showing up homeless on people's doorsteps with one tooth reeking of Jack Daniels. :)

RatedR Superstar
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:01 AM
i just saw it too, movie was great :worship: but i think spiderman was better :)

Marcus Jordan
Jul 1st, 2006, 09:19 AM
This digital super-sizing of the classic 1978 film boldly positions itself as a values-driven, post 9-11 blockbuster with brains and heart. Directed by Bryan Singer (X-Men 1 & 2), it deftly fuses massively entertaining spectacle with surprisingly potent drama as Superman (Brandon Routh) considers whether his love for Lois Lane (Kate Bosworth) is worth breaking up a family for.

Lord Nelson
Jul 1st, 2006, 01:03 PM
This digital super-sizing of the classic 1978 film boldly positions itself as a values-driven, post 9-11 blockbuster with brains and heart. Directed by Bryan Singer (X-Men 1 & 2), it deftly fuses massively entertaining spectacle with surprisingly potent drama as Superman (Brandon Routh) considers whether his love for Lois Lane (Kate Bosworth) is worth breaking up a family for.
Superman is a great superhero but he does not have appealing supervillains like with Spiderman. Lex Luthor is just an ordinary guy. There are great villains like General Zod, Cyborg and Brainiac but they are not as charismatic as Spidey villains like Venom, Green Goblin and Octopus. I would love the 'Death of Superman' to be filmed as they were planning on doing with Nicolas Cage as Superman and Tim Burton directing a few years back. The project was called of though because the budget was too high and at that time superhero movies were not made and thus it was not certain or not whether they would be profitable.

Marcus Jordan
Jul 1st, 2006, 02:21 PM
I read the script Tim Burton was going to use and couldn't stop laughing at how silly it was (it was kind of like the Will Smith movie Wild Wild West). Very wise decision to avoid that Death of Superman project, and very wise to make Superman Returns the thinking man's superhero (plus Superman is virtually dead in Superman Returns anyway). Still, its all about personal taste, and many people don't like the cartoonish style of Spiderman and prefer drama and character depth to add meaning to the superhero (while maintaining great action). The fact that people in the cinema were crying on 3 seperate occasions during Superman Returns (my screening and others I heard about) shows the power of such an epic movie experience. You can't find the same sense of importance in a Spiderman/Batman/Xmen movie.

Prizeidiot
Jul 2nd, 2006, 07:47 AM
Saw the movie this afternoon, and I thought it was pretty good.

But I'm not entirely sure how Superman figure out the kid was his.... he wasn't there when he threw the piano. :confused:

Anyway, I reckon you change the title thread to "Anyone see the new superman? I can't believe Lois dies!"

Scotso
Jul 2nd, 2006, 02:42 PM
I saw it last night, I thought it was pretty boring actually. And there was no major confrontation AT ALL. No big fights. Just some sappy moments and Superman saving a lot of ordinary people. Yawn.

The best things in the movie were Parker Posey and Brandon Routh (as eye candy).

"Topaz"
Jul 2nd, 2006, 03:49 PM
Saw it yesterday and enjoyed it very much. Of course, IMHO, no sequel or other version can beat the first Superman movie. I didn't think they'd be able to find an actor that could fill Christopher Reeve's shoes; amazingly, they found a good fit in Brandon Routh. The new Lois (Terri Hatcher) is gorgeous.

One comment though, why did Lois have to lie to her fiance in saying she didn't love Superman while she very much did? Did she as well let him think the kid was his own? Ahhh... women! One can't fully trust them in that matter. :tape:

darrinbaker00
Jul 2nd, 2006, 04:05 PM
Saw the movie this afternoon, and I thought it was pretty good.

But I'm not entirely sure how Superman figure out the kid was his.... he wasn't there when he threw the piano. :confused:

Anyway, I reckon you change the title thread to "Anyone see the new superman? I can't believe Lois dies!"
Lois told him in the hospital.

Brashkoala
Jul 2nd, 2006, 07:41 PM
i saw it last wednesday and i thought it was good. i really like brandon routh as the new superman. the movie was not as fast paced as i thought it would be, so i would give it an 8 out of 10. i have to say i have not seen the other superman movie so i really cant compare.

J_Migoe
Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:59 PM
I liked the movie a lot. Superman is too good though but why must he fight an ordinary man in Lex Luther.

darrinbaker00
Jul 3rd, 2006, 01:36 AM
I just saw it and liked it a lot! I like Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor better than Gene Hackman. The guy who played superman himself was not all that bad, but I missed Margo "hiding in the bushes because I'm pyschotic" Kidder :tape: . The idea of Superman being portrayed as a deadbeat dad did not sit well with me though :lol:
Maury Povich: "The DNA test results are in. Superman, you ARE the father!" ;)

tommyk75
Jul 3rd, 2006, 02:27 AM
It was all right. In terms of action, "Superman II" still is the best by far, which is funny with all the advancement in special effects since then (!). However, I thought the new one added some depth with the whole Superman & Superson storyline. Brandon did his job (i.e. come off nice and look cute in tights), but the girl who played Lois Lane came off all whiny and irritating.

Prizeidiot
Jul 3rd, 2006, 03:06 AM
Lois told him in the hospital.
Ohh... yeah, I zoned out a bit there :p

(I'd been at the plaza since 9am, and the movie started 2pm)

Prizeidiot
Jul 3rd, 2006, 03:07 AM
Saw it yesterday and enjoyed it very much. Of course, IMHO, no sequel or other version can beat the first Superman movie. I didn't think they'd be able to find an actor that could fill Christopher Reeve's shoes; amazingly, they found a good fit in Brandon Routh. The new Lois (Terri Hatcher) is gorgeous.

One comment though, why did Lois have to lie to her fiance in saying she didn't love Superman while she very much did? Did she as well let him think the kid was his own? Ahhh... women! One can't fully trust them in that matter. :tape:
Yeah.... you figure it'll be awkward when the kid grows up and is benchpressing trucks. Wonder how she'll hide that one?

Marcus Jordan
Jul 3rd, 2006, 05:08 AM
It was all right. In terms of action, "Superman II" still is the best by far, which is funny with all the advancement in special effects since then (!). However, I thought the new one added some depth with the whole Superman & Superson storyline. Brandon did his job (i.e. come off nice and look cute in tights), but the girl who played Lois Lane came off all whiny and irritating.

Yeah but don't forget Lois is supposed to be whiny and irritating in the Reeve movies and the comics. Her character is supposed to be aggressive and often unsexy (Terri Hatcher wasn't a typical Lois) cos Superman is supposed to fall for a human that isn't perfect to prove he sees past human flaws.

Yes Superman II had fight scenes, but Superman Returns isn't an action movie but more a drama and romance. It really is a thinking man's superhero film. And they had to start with Lex because he is traditionally the main villain, but supervillains will be in the sequels.

On the topic of people not realising Clark is Superman I found this interesting from WIKIPEDIA.com:

Clark keeps his Superman identitity a secret to protect his loved ones. Various methods for keeping his Superman's identity secret over the years include his using "super-hypnosis", subliminally causing people to not make the connection, compressing his spine as Clark Kent to become shorter, and studying the Meisner acting technique to switch seamlessly between personas. Modern comic book stories show that to everyone, Superman is the greatest hero in the world and a larger-than-life figure, and no one thinks to look for him living as a normal human. Furthermore, since Superman goes into public unmasked, most people assume that he has no other identity. Even Batman commended him on his disguise. As long as he does not let on that he has another life, there is no real reason to look for a secret identity. When first confronted by evidence that Clark Kent is Superman, Lex Luthor dismisses it, saying, "No one with the power of Superman would be living as a normal man".

using "super-hypnosis", subliminally causing people to not make the connection is probably the main reason. Cos remember when Lois and her BF considered that maybe Clark and Superman are the same and then they changed their minds instantly....as if they were hynotised.

Prizeidiot
Jul 3rd, 2006, 05:11 AM
There were some pretty funny bits with the Clark/Superman thing.

Like when the kid meets Clark for the first time, then is looking at a pic of Superman in a paper Lois is holding, then looks back at Clark, and Clark readjuts his glasses and looks away :lol:

RVD
Jul 3rd, 2006, 09:23 AM
I saw it last night, I thought it was pretty boring actually. And there was no major confrontation AT ALL. No big fights. Just some sappy moments and Superman saving a lot of ordinary people. Yawn.

The best things in the movie were Parker Posey and Brandon Routh (as eye candy).I just returned from watching this film and now wish that I could get my money back. I found it to be quite boring. In fact, I found it to be little more than a sappy chick flick. There was little to no chemistry between the two main characters, and even the kid appeared borderline autistic. :shrug: Where was the excitement?! Where were the evil vs. good battles?!

As an indication to how s-s-s-s-s-l-o-o-o-w this film was, the guy in front of me fell asleep, and for the first time in decades, the people talking throughout the movie were more entertaining the movie itself. Though Kevin Spacey played a very convincing cold-hearted villain, and I always enjoy Parker Posey [who sadly happened to be completely wasted here], the majority of the movie never picked up steam the way a Summer blockbuster film should. :sad:

Oh well, I'm expecting Spiderman 3 to be far more entertaining. :)

Marcus Jordan
Jul 3rd, 2006, 11:36 AM
US Weekend Gross: $52,150,000

US Total Gross: $84,208,000

US Days In Release: 5

International Box Office (as of July 2):

1. SOUTH KOREA - $5,000,000 (2% above "X-Men 3")
2. AUSTRALIA - $3,900,000 (29% above "Batman Begins")
3. PHILIPPINES - $2,580,000 (2nd best opening of all-time behind "Spider-Man 2")
4. TAIWAN - $1,580,000
5. THAILAND - $1,500,000
6. INDIA - $1,490,000
7. SINGAPORE - $1,160,000
8. MALAYSIA - $821,000
9. INDONESIA - $731,000
10. PUERTO RICO - $634,000
11. NEW ZEALAND - $375,000

TOTAL GROSS: $104,008,000

Box Office Trivia:

Superman Returns has $84 million in 5 days of Box Office.

Fantastic Four only grossed a total of $154,696,080 domestically, during its entire time in theaters. Its opening weekend $56,061,504. And it didn't reach $84 million until its 8th day.

Batman Begins grossed a total of $205,343,774 domestically. Its opening weekend (which was also a five day) received $72,896,986. It did not reach $84 million until its 7th day.

X-Men I don't know the complete figures on but it grossed a total of $157,299,717 domestically. Its opening weekend was only $54,471,475.

Prizeidiot
Jul 3rd, 2006, 11:41 AM
Just a question... what was Parker Posey's character?

Marcus Jordan
Jul 3rd, 2006, 11:51 AM
Just a question... what was Parker Posey's character?

She was one of Lex's helpers. Her job was to distract Superman while Lex went about his evilness.

Prizeidiot
Jul 3rd, 2006, 12:42 PM
Ohh... the stupid one with the cannibal dog :p

Marcus Jordan
Jul 3rd, 2006, 02:21 PM
PP was funny when Superman said he had to go and began to fly up but she held him back.

Scotso
Jul 3rd, 2006, 07:25 PM
the majority of the movie never picked up steam the way a Summer blockbuster film should.

I agree 100%. It was so slow. Blockbusters are supposed to be filled with action. I've seen after school specials on TV with more excitement. :shrug:

RVD
Jul 3rd, 2006, 08:42 PM
I agree 100%. It was so slow. Blockbusters are supposed to be filled with action. I've seen after school specials on TV with more excitement. :shrug::haha: Or animal documentaries. :haha:

Honestly though, I'm amazed at what makes money these days. :eek:
$52M in the US alone?! I guess there was zero competition out there. :lol:

Marcus Jordan
Jul 4th, 2006, 01:11 AM
"Next to Singer's champagne, most recent superhero adventure movies are barely sparkling cider."
-- David Ansen, NEWSWEEK

"The best Hollywood movies always knew how to sneak a beguiling subtext into a crowd-pleasing story. Superman Returns is in that grand tradition. That's why it's beyond Super. It's superb."
-- Richard Corliss, TIME MAGAZINE

"This Superman is like nothing you've ever seen before, but it tickles something primitive and comforting at the back of the mind. Gorgeously detailed and meticulously realized, it's a homecoming of a movie."
-- Sara Brady, PREMIERE MAGAZINE

"Superman Returns is near the top -- if not at the top -- of the superhero movie pile. It offers nearly everything: romance, action, humor, and plenty of goose bumps. For Superman, many happy returns."
-- James Berardinelli, REELVIEWS

"Retaining the spirit of the comic strip, Superman Returns delivers a larger-than-life hero a sardonic villain, splashy special effects and an emotional heart that reinforces the Man of Steel's vulnerability."
-- Urban Cinefile Critics, URBAN CINEFILE

Scotso
Jul 4th, 2006, 01:13 AM
I'm excited for Pirates of the Carribean this weekend... hopefully that will actually be a good blockbuster :p

Marcus Jordan
Jul 4th, 2006, 04:31 AM
Pirates of the Carribean is a lot more suited to teens/children than Superman Returns.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2104&p=.htm

Studio exit polling indicated that 58 percent of the audience was male and that those over and under 25 years old were equally represented.

Scotso
Jul 4th, 2006, 04:46 AM
Pirates of the Carribean is a lot more suited to teens/children than Superman Returns.

I don't think so at all... Pirates would probably be quite scary for children. Superman wasn't at all.

Marcus Jordan
Jul 4th, 2006, 04:50 AM
Yeah but Superman Returns was mostly a drama with plenty of romance, very much adult and really too long for children. I think Pirates have always been a concept children liked. I remember liking Pirates when I was 8-12 but not after. These are just generalizations though, depends on the individual.