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The_Pov
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:34 PM
After today's performance and recent results do you think that Maria needs a new coach.

To put things into percpective Makiri has played 31 matches this year (that's 2 less than Big Masha) and has played 15 tournaments to Big Masha's 7 :tape:

Yeah I know that it's stupid to compare the 2 atm but it's a worring stat, and Makiri has a win loss of 17 - 14, (that's basically win one lose one)

I may be overreacting but last year she wasn't beaten by a player ranked below her. This year a fair chunk of her loses are from lower ranked players.

Everyone seemed to be predicting that Maria would have her break out year this year and at the start it seemed promising taking the top players to 3 sets and beating Petrova but it seems to have gone down hill since then. I know Grass isn't her fave surface but her claycourt and latter stages of the hardcourt seasons weren't great. I know she has made the top 20 but it seems that it's because other players have fallen behind her :tape:

I love Makiri to bits and I believe and many commentators have said this, but Makiri has the style of game that could become similar to Federer's but she's got nearly everyshot in the book and she doesn't know how to use them (Big masha has only a few shots and so it has been easier to get her game into the right gear). I don't think her dad and fitness coach can't help her there and a coach would be able to push her in the right direction.

It does sound like I'm being all negative but I do think a new coach could do her the world of good and it could improve her game immensly!

furrykitten
Jun 27th, 2006, 07:03 PM
Maybe her Dad needs some help

RonnieB33
Jun 27th, 2006, 07:08 PM
She may just not like grass or clay. She only won, what, 4 matches out of 10 on these surfaces? But, I think a coach would go a long way in bringing her back to form. She had one at the beginning of the year, and the results seem to be good. Perhaps there's too much of an emphasis on off-court duties. Could that be a distraction? I wouldn't think so. Most likely Makiri needs a break which she should get over the next several weeks.

FedExpress
Jun 27th, 2006, 07:21 PM
I think she needs a coach because she has so much potential and should be coached by a professional.
And to the tournaments... I think it's not a bad thing to play more tournaments when you're losing 1st or 2nd round. But it's different when you're playing like Sharapova and plays 15 tournaments.

KirilenkoRulz
Jun 27th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Since the Fed Cup, Maria has played 6 tournaments and gone out in the first round in 4 of them. We have become very good at making excuses for Maria - the knee, can't play clay, can't play grass, bad coach, bad draws, plays too much and she is tired, not playing enough, shouldn't be playing so much doubles, and on and on. As I am a dad of a daughter about Maria's age, let me give you another perspective. Maria could be a confused 19 1/2 year old right now. Some girls as they grow into women have "self image" and "confidence" issues. Most get to work out their transitons in the comfort of their home towns. Maria is exposed to the world during this period. One reason I became a Maria fan years ago is she was such a modest and humble kid, would have never dreamed that she would be one to wear Stella stuff. This humble kid is now "The Blond Bombshell", "Sexy Stella Model", Vogue model, Penguin Pin-up Girl, number such and such on this or that Hot List. She now is quoted repeatedly that she wants to look good on the court. She has always looked good on the court without trying. It would be nice for Maria to start talking about playing good on the court. The month off before San Diego may be just what she needs. Get out of the spotlight. Go sit under a tree and read a book. It may just be she does not need Dad to "coach" her in tennis. She may need Mom and Dad to sit with her and tell her how special she is, how much they love her unconditionally, that they are there to support Maria, and that Maria needs to figure out exactly what she wants to do with her life. Once Maria gets that straight, she will be a much better tennis player if that's what it is she wants to do with her life.

so.krist!na
Jun 27th, 2006, 08:05 PM
I'm not sure yet.I don't know who's Makiri's coach now..:tape:
But i think she is really tired,she needs some rest..and she played too much doubles..She took part in all the events in Grand Slam..

KirilenkoRulz
Jun 27th, 2006, 08:18 PM
She may just not like grass or clay. She only won, what, 4 matches out of 10 on these surfaces?Hi, RonnieB. Last year after Wimbledon, when Maria went to North America to play on the hardcourts she did not play any better than she had been playing on grass and clay in Europe. If you recall she went to San Diego and lost in the first round, then in LA lost in the second round (the infamous Sharapova match with the terrible umpire), then she lost again in the first round. So after three tournaments on hard court she was 1 win - 3 losses. Then in New Haven she lost in the Qualifers but got in as a Lucky Loser. Then won her first round match before losing. Then, of course, in the US Open she won her first round before losing to Williams in the second round. So last year's North American hardcourt results were two outs in the first round and three in the second for a main draw record of 3 wins - 5 losses. In my opinion, Maria needs to start playing better because she can lose just as easily on hardcourts right now. And if grass is the issue, then how is it she has a doubles title from Birmingham and this year got to the finals at the Ordina Open? She seems to be playing much more confidently in doubles right now, and it is showing in the results.

The_Pov
Jun 27th, 2006, 08:55 PM
Not trying to be horrible or anything but I can't agree with people saying Makiri is tired! I agree with KirilenkoRulz we have to stop making up excuses for her...I don't see how she can be tired from playing 1 or 2 matches in tournaments (she's not like Petrova who is playing a lot of tournaments but getting deep into them, except a certain 1st round exit of hers :devil: )

I really sound like I'm getting at Makiri, but really what I am trying to say is that, she's not tired etc, it's her style of play, it takes a lot longer for all court players to mature - look at Federer, he was a mess until it all came together - It's just I would feel a lot more confident if she had a coach on tour with her because at least then when she makes a 1st round exit we know her coach will sit her down and tell her where she was going wrong and what she needs to improve. I just want someone to push makiri into the next level.

Also KirilenkoRulz, I understand where you are coming from, Makiri was until the start of the year Sharapova's best friend, now she's Maria Kirilenko The next best thing Blonde Bombshell, and it can have a lot of pressure on her.

I just wish there was a way to tell her that as fans, we just want her to be happy and achieve what she can, and that we know she will be the best when the time calls for it, and that even though her modelling is great for us look at, if it meant it damaged her career and made her unhappy we'd rather she stopped.

If Makiri gets the right help and support I believe she'll be a slam winner by 25! (and you can quote me on that).




On a side not and slightly :topic: I didn't realise she was so hated on GM! Although to me that means that she is feared (a lot of ALG fans were glad she was out, well until ALG went out herself :lol: )

Belmont Lad
Jun 27th, 2006, 09:16 PM
We have all been waiting for the breakout result this year. It seemed early in the year she was hamstrung by horrible draws, but now she seems to have lost her form and is taking unexpected losses. She really is too talented to be taking some of the loses she has recently and should have achieved alot more this year and be higher ranked. Could a coach help her realize better results and confidence? I absolutely think it couldn't hurt one bit. :)

daandaan
Jun 27th, 2006, 09:29 PM
I think there just is a lot of pressure on here which she can't handle at the moment. When she is playing doubles with Ivanovic they are laughing all the time, making some jokes, etc. But in the singles she has to do it alone and she has all the pressure on here self. Hopefully she can get back in here game in the hardcourt season and get some QF or even better results. I think its more " between the ears" at the moment for here.

KirilenkoRulz
Jun 27th, 2006, 10:33 PM
So many great comments in this thread, Maria has such awesome fans. It shows our passion for her to be worried and wonder why things are not progressing as she or we planned (indeed many of us thought/still think this is going to be her breakout year). And the posts are all so respectful and caring of Maria, she indeed has very special fans.

houseoflords
Jun 28th, 2006, 05:51 AM
Maria's dad can't improve her game. Maria needs a coach who can help her develop. She needs to work with someone who will push her hard, someone who will get the most out of her. Maybe she should ask Brad Gilbert.

Dan23
Jun 28th, 2006, 06:34 AM
David Taylor seemed to have a bit of an influence on Maria even with the short time they worked together. Maria has also done a bit of work with a couple of others this year. I see that it could only do her good to gain an experienced coach but it may be quite tough to find one.

Vassili
Jun 28th, 2006, 07:31 AM
I think Maria needs a coach who can help her develop, game and she has so much potential !

Langers
Jun 28th, 2006, 12:52 PM
She may just not like grass or clay.
Well thatís two surfaces; I donít think you should just write them off like that. Youíre basically excusing poor performances in two of the Slams. Of course they may not be surfaces that suit her game, but she shouldnít accept loses like the one she had yesterday just because itís not a favorable surface.

RonnieB33
Jun 28th, 2006, 02:39 PM
Well thatís two surfaces; I donít think you should just write them off like that. Youíre basically excusing poor performances in two of the Slams. Of course they may not be surfaces that suit her game, but she shouldnít accept loses like the one she had yesterday just because itís not a favorable surface.
Yeah, I'm just grasping for straws trying to figure out what Makiri needs, but I don't have the answers. A coach sounds like an excellent idea. Does anyone know if most players have a coach? How about among those in the Top 25?

King Aaron
Jun 28th, 2006, 04:52 PM
She needs an experienced and established coach.

Lillibet
Jun 28th, 2006, 09:03 PM
yeah an experienced coach would be good, so long as it is a coach who will concentrate on everything in her game, not just baseline tennis.
She's got the volleying skills, and if she had a coach to make them even better, that could help her to surprise opponents, make points shorter, or just give her another option.
if she plays in some low ranking tournaments, maybe she could try out some different styles of play against lower-ranked players. Could be a help, if not, it won't hurt too much. She may have to go down before she goes up again.
Would definitely like to see her making more progress in the Slams that she has been! :)

The_Pov
Jul 9th, 2006, 11:19 PM
Thinking about it I do think that makiri needs to play a few more Tier III's because I think it would make her feel a little more confident about her game, losing in the early rounds of the higher tiered events can't be good for her, although she should still play a few higher tiered events because they'll help with ranking points and they give her practice against the top players!

Albireo
Jul 10th, 2006, 01:57 AM
Nigel Sears would be an excellent choice.

Brooklyn90
Jul 10th, 2006, 04:13 AM
yes i could really help her

The_Pov
Jul 31st, 2006, 07:49 PM
Maria please get a coach!!!
:sad:
I'm begging you!!!!

furrykitten
Jul 31st, 2006, 08:51 PM
Christina she's so in need of new guidance, surely she must see that? :sad:

The_Pov
Jul 31st, 2006, 09:59 PM
Christina she's so in need of new guidance, surely she must see that? :sad:

I know but I have a feeling that her Dad doesn't want her to get another coach because (I read this somewhere so don't shout at me if it's not true) he didn't want to "waste" money on one.

Derek.
Jul 31st, 2006, 10:30 PM
:sad:

Albireo
Aug 1st, 2006, 01:04 AM
I know but I have a feeling that her Dad doesn't want her to get another coach because (I read this somewhere so don't shout at me if it's not true) he didn't want to "waste" money on one.

:retard:

Kirilenko especially needs a coach; she's not going to overpower anyone, so she has to use her variety and her brain to win. Those are elements that need extra development. If she was a one-dimensional Big Babe, she wouldn't need as much guidance.

houseoflords
Aug 1st, 2006, 03:28 AM
Maria clearly needs a new coach. I don't care what her dad says. She has a ton of talent and she isn't getting the most out of it. It is time for her to get a real coach. She needs someone to bring the best out of her. Someone that can actually help her improve and someone to motivate her better