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Beny
Jun 27th, 2006, 09:42 AM
Please help me to solve my problem. I think these two are simply the best defensers.Their defensive game and court coverage is excellent.I think they are equal good.I want to know your opinion. Which one is better?

Kirt12255
Jun 27th, 2006, 09:46 AM
Which one would play better against Sanchez-Vicario is my question ;) Schnyder has more depth to her game so I vote for her;)

Josh.
Jun 27th, 2006, 09:46 AM
easily nastya.. runs down (almost) anything

Kirt12255
Jun 27th, 2006, 09:50 AM
Schnyder has the ability to take spin and pace off the ball....will never forget that Gold Coast Final...she just waited like a predator against Sammy.

Lady
Jun 27th, 2006, 10:16 AM
Nastya.

Circe
Jun 27th, 2006, 10:19 AM
defenser sounds like some kind of safety component in a power system :D

"defensive player" might be a better appellation and its probably nastya. but sanchez-vicario was the best i've seen.

ctan88
Jun 27th, 2006, 10:20 AM
Anastasia Myskina by far ... but perhaps im biast :)

Pheobo
Jun 27th, 2006, 10:24 AM
I'm not sure, but I do love the word "defenser"

Viktymise
Jun 27th, 2006, 10:42 AM
The word should be defender really, and its definatley Myskina, Schnyder doesnt come close, there are others like lenaD and Clijsters who are even better defenders than Schnyder

frenchie
Jun 27th, 2006, 10:45 AM
Nastya's good defense doesn't come from bodybuilder's legs but from anticipation and easy changes of direction!!

she's amazing at it!!!

Maryamator
Jun 27th, 2006, 11:28 AM
myskina for sure! myskina defendz but hits hard at the same time..

Carmen Mairena
Jun 27th, 2006, 11:29 AM
Anastasia! :hearts:

switz
Jun 27th, 2006, 12:40 PM
Patty is not good when she gets too defensive. She beats the best players when she plays her game and outclasses them (admittedly not often).

Myskina is not the best defensive player either mind you. Henin is better, Venus is better as well when she's playing well, as isg Clijsters

Derek.
Jun 27th, 2006, 12:58 PM
Nastya by far.

borisy
Jun 27th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Another Patty bashing thread :rolleyes:

selyoink
Jun 27th, 2006, 01:34 PM
Nastya for sure.

Beny
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:01 PM
Ok,sorry, defender. I think MOTHER is always right. I asked my mum this question(my mother is also a fan of WTA tennis) and she told me this name: Schnyder. She has seen her running and catching a lot of balls which other players wouldn`t manage to play like her. And she saw Myskina failing to play back a dropshot which wasn`t that tough. But I agree Myskina is a great defender.She reads the game and predicts well....but Patty is better!(IMO)

UDACHi
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:02 PM
Easily Myskina.

Thauron
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:05 PM
I think Myskina when on is better at it - watch the first point of the last game in the Henin-Myskina match - simply breathtaking. I might be biased though.

One thing is undisputable though: Myskina is the better defender of the two on grass ;)

Beny
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:06 PM
Easily Myskina.
Why? I ask you(anyone of those 33 Myskina voters...)..What is Nastya better at?

frenchie
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:14 PM
Why? I ask you(anyone of those 33 Myskina voters...)..What is Nastya better at?

because she's fast, has a very good anticipation and chase every ball ;)

Craigy
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:14 PM
Myskina. You can clearly see she gets more shots back.

Beny
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:40 PM
because she's fast, has a very anticipation and chase every ball ;)
I`m sure you have never seen Patty`s match....

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:45 PM
Nastya

Beny
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:47 PM
I`m sure you have never seen Patty`s match....
I don`t want to sound rude. But I`m sure Patty can run faster than Nastya......

manu32
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:53 PM
nastya is not a defensive player...schnyder is.....look at eastbourne's matches....

Beny
Jun 27th, 2006, 06:56 PM
nastya is not a defensive player...schnyder is.....look at eastbourne's matches....
Eastbourne matches are not everything. I`ve seen Nastya playing many times for example against Davenport,Henin H., Dementieva...and many other..
She has one of the best defense....

mboyle
Jun 27th, 2006, 07:29 PM
Schnyder is not super fast. She is fast, but not among the ten fastest girls on tour. I say Natsya is. However, Kim is currently the best defensive player on tour, followed by J2H, and ASV is the best ever. Venus and Serena are the fastest people on tour, but they usually take risks and try to be offensive while on the run, rather than being defensive.

Spunky83
Jun 27th, 2006, 07:34 PM
nastya is not a defensive player...schnyder is.....look at eastbourne's matches....

Well you gotta say Nastya came out firing winners all over the place in that match and that was not her usual game. There´s just no way you can succeed by playing defense against Justine, Nastya realized that and it nearly worked out.

Compared to the typical young powerful players, Nastya´s game is all about defense and trying to hit hard only when she´s in a real good position.

Beny
Jun 27th, 2006, 08:03 PM
Schnyder is not super fast. She is fast, but not among the ten fastest girls on tour. I say Natsya is. However, Kim is currently the best defensive player on tour, followed by J2H, and ASV is the best ever. Venus and Serena are the fastest people on tour, but they usually take risks and try to be offensive while on the run, rather than being defensive.
Not among ten?? :eek: You must be joking.Well, no one of us can say if she is the fastest or not. You can not compare them. I mean,if they were standing on the same line and started to run we would see who finishes first.
But I disagree that she is not among the ten best runners of WTA girls.I think she`s faster than Serena and others. Kim is fast but she can not take a good advantage of it. The way Myskina and Schnyder play back balls from difficult positions is much more effective than Kim`s way.So i don`t agree Kim is the best defender. Patty,Nastya and Juju are better than her(IMO)

KV
Jun 27th, 2006, 08:17 PM
Nastya

Almalyk
Jun 27th, 2006, 08:37 PM
Myskina.

DarkchildSwiss
Jun 27th, 2006, 08:42 PM
Patty.

drake3781
Jun 27th, 2006, 08:42 PM
Every time I see this thread titile with the (made-up) word "defenser" I think of the only similar (real) word I've ever seen: when a cat is described as a "good mouser".

I've always loved that term,

Wannabeknowitall
Jun 27th, 2006, 08:43 PM
They're equally good on different surfaces. Myskina is a better defender on grass, hard courts, and on red clay if her shots are working for her. Patty is a better defender indoors, on rebound ace, and green clay.

Beny
Jun 28th, 2006, 06:53 AM
Did anyone see their this year`s matches against each other? In Dubai and at Australian Open(Patty won 62,61).Unfortunately, I didn`t.....what were they like?(the matches).Who was defender,who dominator:)? I think Nastya was just making many mistakes,wasn`t she?

Beny
Jun 28th, 2006, 06:55 AM
They're equally good on different surfaces. Myskina is a better defender on grass, hard courts, and on red clay if her shots are working for her. Patty is a better defender indoors, on rebound ace, and green clay.
Very well said. But I think their defense on red clay is equal excellent(Did you see last year`s Patty`s matches against Sharapova(Berlin2005) and Pierce(RG)?
It was a great lesson of clay-court tennis for Masha... :bounce:

santhuruu
Jun 28th, 2006, 08:23 AM
By far Anastasia Myskina

Jakeev
Jun 28th, 2006, 08:28 AM
I would say they are about the same. But what I think Myskina does a bit better than Patty is turn a defensive shot to one that is offensive in her favor, something I saw quite a bit at Eastbourne last week.