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BarbaraZ
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:38 PM
I'm just stating the fact, nothing more, nothing less :D

oakkao
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:42 PM
I am sure Henin has probably played more tournaments? :shrug: This thread is really irrelevant :shrug:

Il Primo!
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:43 PM
I'm just stating the fact, nothing more, nothing less :D

If you really wanted "nothing more nothing less" you just have to keep that in mind without writing it ;)

Good for Juju..She played much more tournies than Serena and won less GS..It's good she finally has a stat who favors her

<Sven>
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:44 PM
I'm not a Serena fan, nor a fan of Justine but: GS won by Serena 7, GS won by Justine 5
That's also a fact
(Although I think Justine has a good shot at passing Serena in that statistic as well)

dreamgoddess099
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:45 PM
Justine 120 tournaments played, Serena 90 tournamensts played. Just stating the facts. Also, all of Serena's titles are tier II or above, how many of Justine's are?

-VSR-
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:46 PM
:haha:

Serena still has 2 more Grand Slam titles and has played 30 less tournament. :yeah:

oakkao
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:46 PM
:eek: Dreamgoddess? Is that true? Or are you just estimating?! :eek: If it is :o Serena :tape:

iPatty
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:49 PM
S. Williams 7 GS titles, Justine 5. :)

If you really wanted to just state a fact, you wouldn't have said anything.

BarbaraZ
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:49 PM
:haha:

Serena still has 2 more Grand Slam titles and has played 30 less tournament. :yeah:


Yeah, soon it will be 40 than 50 and so on...

dreamgoddess099
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:53 PM
:eek: Dreamgoddess? Is that true? Or are you just estimating?! :eek: If it is :o Serena :tape:
Acording to WTAtour.com since 1995 Serena has lost 64 matches and won 26 titles. When you add the tournaments lost plus the tournaments won you 90 tournaments. Not bad for a "part-timer."

Callystarr
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:55 PM
Well lets just put it this way....

Serena Williams has only played 374 matches

Justine Henin has played 496!


So...Serena Williams has 122 more matches to tie Justine in titles LOL...

Rexman
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:57 PM
Acording to WTAtour.com since 1995 Serena has lost 64 matches and won 26 titles. When you add the tournaments lost plus the tournaments won you 90 tournaments. Not bad for a "part-timer."

What about pre-match pull outs? I'm actually curious.

Pureracket
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:58 PM
Hmm. . .. I'm wondering why Serena J. Williams was chosen to state "just a fact."

;-)

-VSR-
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:58 PM
Yeah, soon it will be 40 than 50 and so on...

Or so you wish, sorry to spoil your fun but Serena will be back at Cincinnati. Most likely winning her 27th title. Suck on that. :angel: :lol:

BarbaraZ
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:00 PM
Hmm. . .. I'm wondering why Serena J. Williams was chosen to state "just a fact."

;-)

b/c JHH today passed her in career titles. when she passes Venus, I'll use Venus as a benchmark, don't worry

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:01 PM
Career Winning %

Williams .828
Henin-Hardenne .801

Nothing more nothing less

Pureracket
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:04 PM
b/c JHH today passed her in career titles. when she passes Venus, I'll use Venus as a benchmark, don't worryC'mon, you expect us to believe that that's the only reason? JHH has passed several others as well; however, like others, you choose Serena. When you use the word "benchmark," you might be on to something.;) This is a flattering thread. I love being a fan of Venus and Serena.

SAEKeithSerena
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:05 PM
henin-hardenne plays more tournaments. but

RenaSlam.
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:05 PM
Slams are what matter people.

Serena-7 (1 AO, 1 FO, 2 Wimby, 2 USO)- "Serena Slam", in doubles too :worship:
Justine-5 (1 AO, 3 FO, 1 USO, no Wimby)- No Career Slam :hearts:

tennisjunky
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:06 PM
:haha:

Serena still has 2 more Grand Slam titles and has played 30 less tournament. :yeah:
justine had to play 419 matches to get 27 titles
serena played 361 matches to get 26 tittles

serena has played 27 grand slam tournaments and has won 7
justine has played 26 grand slam tournaments and has won 5

justine is setting herself up to one day overtake serena and if she stays healthy and IF serena doesnt then she will pass her one day, but that day wont be anytime soon. for now serena still has the credentials to remain the best out of this generation of players.

saki
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:07 PM
Kim has more titles than either of them. Bottom line is that no-one on tour is playing for more titles, they're playing for GS titles.

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:07 PM
Serena certainly is proving to be the standard that Justine is measured up against. What flattery that Justine's accomplishments only mean something when put up to the greatness that is Serena Williams :) What a fact.

K-Dog
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:08 PM
let's not forget h2h. 5-3 Serena.

vejh
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:10 PM
serena has played 27 grand slam tournaments and has won 7
justine has played 26 grand slam tournaments and has won 5

Now this is a stat that matters.lol. Pretty impressive by both ladies.

dreamgoddess099
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:11 PM
What about pre-match pull outs? I'm actually curious.
I'm not sure, but retirements and walkovers still count as playing that tourment, unless it's before you play your first match.

BarbaraZ
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Serena certainly is proving to be the standard that Justine is measured up against. What flattery that Justine's accomplishments only mean something when put up to the greatness that is Serena Williams :) What a fact.


Sure, better to be compared with Williams sisters than with M. Hingis :bolt:

vejh
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Of course Serena is one of the standards in tennis..duhhhh.lol. JH is not the only one measure up to her, pretty much all the players, once they reach a certain status, are measured up to her.

vettipooh
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:14 PM
I'm just stating the fact, nothing more, nothing less :D
Then wipe that big grin off your face!!!;)

BarbaraZ
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:25 PM
Then wipe that big grin off your face!!!;)

OK ;)
No, really I thought it was an interesting fact, ofcourse I knew it would cause some problems but it's flattering to both of them I think

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:32 PM
Sure, better to be compared with Williams sisters than with M. Hingis :bolt:

You and yours obviously think so since this is a consistent thing. But like it's been stated before, Serena being the standard for so many is flattering. She is a great champion :)

Pureracket
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:32 PM
Well, all credit is definitely due to JHH for whatever she accomplishes. She obviously works very hard, and she's overcome some serious adversity to get where she is.

Kart
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:42 PM
Gabriela Sabatini :hearts: has 27 titles.

I guess Justine has finally come close to greatness ;).

cellophane
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:49 PM
What's next : Justine has 54 zits and Serena has 53? :scratch: :bolt:

The Crow
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:53 PM
Now all of a sudden it's only GS titles that matter, while just the other day Venus was greater than Justine because she won more titles :p

And anyway Williams fans should be proud that Serena is used as a benchmark here ;)

And about the number of tournaments played: is that really relevant in the long run? When they'll be retired, the number of tournament wins will be remembered for the most part, not the percentage.

Oh and before I get some criticism here: obviously Serena is still the better player ;)

Elenarulez
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:00 PM
In 2010:

Serena: 40
Justine: 28

Talula
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:03 PM
What's next : Justine has 54 zits and Serena has 53? :scratch: :bolt:
:lol: Now all someone has to do to stir things up is pick 2 players and add a few 'facts'!

So who is going first with Monica and Steffi?!! :devil:

BarbaraZ
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:09 PM
In 2010:

Serena: 40
Justine: 28


You forgot Kimmie: 55, I guess

Lulu.
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:29 PM
:rolleyes:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:34 PM
Serena is done

faste5683
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:35 PM
:rolleyes:

I agree. Awesome tennis players are just...awesome.

:wavey:

cellophane
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:36 PM
What's next : Justine has 54 zits and Serena has 53? :scratch: :bolt:

I predict Justine will have ten times more than Serena by the end of 2010!

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Serena is done

And Jcap and Seles aren't :shrug:

darrinbaker00
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:37 PM
I agree. Awesome tennis players are just...awesome.

:wavey:
Except for Justine, of course... :devil:



Just kidding, Ed.

Martian Jeza
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:38 PM
:yawn:

After Martina it's now Serena turn to be bashed... JHH fans are dumber and dumber : JHH fans : one of the worse fanbase of wtaworld. I dislike the WS but I don't bring them down as Martina wins titles...

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:40 PM
And Jcap and Seles aren't :shrug:

No

For me Seles is one of the three most talented players in the WTA history , Serena not . That is the difference


;) ;)

dav abu
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:42 PM
It is very hard to predict where Serena will go from here and sur whatever happens she has some record but if I had to call it I would say that Justine will finish with more GS titles. Only time will tell........

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:43 PM
No

For me Seles is one of the three most talented players in the WTA history , Serena not . That is the difference


;) ;)

mmmmph...what is Seles h2h against the Williamses again?? I can see why you're so bitter.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:45 PM
mmmmph...what is Seles h2h against the Williamses again?? I can see why you're so bitter.

Thanks to Gunter Parche :( :( :sad: :sad:

adam_ads_n
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:45 PM
on wtatour justine has a total of 24 :shrug:

That makes 25 i think

*roddicksinme*
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:45 PM
Justine :bigclap:

BarbaraZ
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:45 PM
:yawn:

After Martina it's now Serena turn to be bashed... JHH fans are dumber and dumber : JHH fans : one of the worse fanbase of wtaworld. I dislike the WS but I don't bring them down as Martina wins titles...


:lol:

Sure, winning 1 title in 4 years doesn't give you a lot of material

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:46 PM
Thanks to Gunter Parche :( :( :sad: :sad:

Sure, cause that has everything to do with everything :yawn:

BarbaraZ
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:47 PM
on wtatour justine has a total of 24 :schrug:

That makes 25 i think


No that makes 27, wta tour site is trash

Martian Jeza
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:47 PM
:lol:

Sure, winning 1 title in 4 years doesn't give you a lot of material

If you know a tennis player who win titles when they are out of the business, give me a sign... :wavey:

adam_ads_n
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:49 PM
No that makes 27, wta tour site is trash
Yeah - you're right. I checked career highlights and they say 26 :) But I still see no point in comparing Juju and Serena.

faste5683
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:53 PM
Except for Justine, of course... :devil:



Just kidding, Ed.

:lol:

You know, she such a fighter, I can't believe she pulls off half the stuff she does out there...it's kinda creepy... :eek:

:wavey:

BarbaraZ
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:55 PM
Nooooooooooo, the :bigwave: with the same number of slams as Martina :fiery::fiery::fiery::fiery: What a nightmare ! :bigcry::bigcry:

I hate that wannabe Belgian :mad:


Oh, I just love your posts and I will ceheck them every time Juju wins a title :wavey:

IceHock
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:56 PM
in the end jhh will have more titles,becuase serena will retire before justine.thats a fact.

controlfreak
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:57 PM
I hear Serena also leads the H2H in cheeseburgers eaten :tape:



Cheap shots are fun :)

IceHock
Jun 24th, 2006, 08:01 PM
I hear Serena also leads the H2H in cheeseburgers eaten :tape:



Cheap shots are fun :)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Martian Jeza
Jun 24th, 2006, 08:06 PM
Oh, I just love your posts and I will ceheck them every time Juju wins a title :wavey:

If I can make you a pleasure, why not :tape:

MH0861
Jun 24th, 2006, 09:51 PM
Justine has one more career title, but she still has a lot of catching up to do to get to Serena's achievements in total.

Louis Cyphre
Jun 24th, 2006, 09:52 PM
I'm just stating the fact, nothing more, nothing less :D
You are racist and hater ;)

Brooks.
Jun 24th, 2006, 09:55 PM
Serena is done

says the Elena D. fan :tape: :o :lol:

Brooks.
Jun 24th, 2006, 09:58 PM
I hear Serena also leads the H2H in cheeseburgers eaten :tape:



Cheap shots are fun :)

Justine is an ugly cheater with no personality

yea ...cheap shots are fun :D

vejh
Jun 24th, 2006, 10:01 PM
The cheeseburger one is still more funny.lol Try again veereefan. :wink:

hingis-seles
Jun 24th, 2006, 10:36 PM
Justine is an ugly cheater with no personality

yea ...cheap shots are fun :D

The difference being your cheap shot displayed a lack of wit.

TomTennis
Jun 24th, 2006, 10:56 PM
Thata a good stat for Justine, but your right, it means "nothing more nothing less".

Davenport has won 50+ titles, yet both Serena and Justine will go down in history as the greater achievers. Its not all about the titles :wavey:

bandabou
Jun 24th, 2006, 11:05 PM
Nice for Juju, no?

Drake1980
Jun 24th, 2006, 11:06 PM
Justine is an ugly cheater with no personality

yea ...cheap shots are fun :D


:eek:

IceHock
Jun 24th, 2006, 11:09 PM
I hear Serena also leads the H2H in cheeseburgers eaten :tape:



Cheap shots are fun :)


round1 goes to coontrolfreak

Bounty Hunter
Jun 24th, 2006, 11:17 PM
How many times did they cheat to win a title...


Justine - 27 times..

Serena - 0

;)

Justeenium
Jun 24th, 2006, 11:20 PM
:yawn:

After Martina it's now Serena turn to be bashed... JHH fans are dumber and dumber : JHH fans : one of the worse fanbase of wtaworld. I dislike the WS but I don't bring them down as Martina wins titles...

There was a thread last summer when Kim passed SWilliams in titles. You didn't post the same thing there.

your disdain for jhh fans is entirely due to your idiocy and has nothing to do with what jhh fans actually say on this board.

Bounty Hunter
Jun 24th, 2006, 11:29 PM
:.. JHH fans are dumber and dumber : JHH fans : one of the worse fanbase of wtaworld. .

:lol: dang, don't hold back.... :lol: :lol: but I agree... :devil:

lucashg
Jun 24th, 2006, 11:49 PM
The Williamses fans should not get so worked up with the comparisons made between their favorites and Justine, Martina, etc. It shows nothing but insecurity. It's rather pointless to argue now as to who will end up with a greater career, serves nothing but to flame a stupid, endless war between the fanbases. Why not let them finished their job first? Then we'll see.

I've seen Jutards and Martitards floating around, but nothing like the WStards. It seems a good number of them is always trying to downplay everyone else's achievements, especially of those who are closer to the achievements of their favorites such as Justine, Martina and to a lesser extent Lindsay, Jennifer and others.

It's a fact that as of now, both Serena's and Venus' achievements rank higher in "greatness" than Justine's (and I'd rank Martina's higher than Venus' - also fact, deal with it). That doesn't necessarily mean they're better players than Justine or even those who have considerably less GS titles such as Kim, Amelie, Maria, Svetlana. It's up to those who are keen on analyzing the game and their different techniques and then decide who's the best. It's a combination of facts plus opinion. Dead-end statistics will never say who's a better tennis player: Serena or Justine.

As interesting as debates about it can be, there's never a real one going on here. It's just the same infantile exchanges of classless attacks. And they go on forever, especially when there's no argument left (if ever there was one to begin with) - then it's only about insulting, twisting facts, bla bla bla.

I am not sure about the threadstarter's purpose on opening such a thread, but it if is as she states, then it's nothing but a simple stat, one that's arguably appreciated by Justine fans. On that, congrats Justine!

Paneru
Jun 24th, 2006, 11:54 PM
The Williamses fans should not get so worked up with the comparisons made between their favorites and Justine, Martina, etc. It shows nothing but insecurity.

Yet, it's not WS fans making
such threads is it now. :cool:

Insecurity, sure.
It's shown by the
creation of this thread. :wavey:

Bounty Hunter
Jun 24th, 2006, 11:58 PM
I've seen Jutards and Martitards floating around, but nothing like the WStards.

Ok lucatard.....

lucashg
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:07 AM
Justine 120 tournaments played, Serena 90 tournamensts played. Just stating the facts. Also, all of Serena's titles are tier II or above, how many of Justine's are?

For the sake of information, Justine has only four titles which aren't Tier II or above.

Justine's Titles:

GS - Roland Garros '03, US Open '03, Australian Open '04, Roland Garros '05, Roland Garros '06.
OM - Athens Olympics Gold '04
I - Berlin '02, Charleston '03, Berlin '03, Toronto '03, Zurich '03, Indian Wells '04, Charleston '05, Berlin '05.
II - Linz '02, Dubai '03, San Diego '03, Sydney '04, Dubai '04, Warsaw '05, Sydney '06, Dubai '06, Eastbourne '06.
III - Gold Coast '01, 's-Hertogenbosch '01.
IV - Antwerp '99, Canberra '01.

I could be wrong however as I did not follow the WTA at the time, but I believe the only significant change in tournament rankings is that Antwerp was upgraded from IV to II and San Diego from II to I. So I believe I placed them correctly.

lucashg
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:13 AM
Yet, it's not WS fans making
such threads is it now. :cool:

Insecurity, sure.
It's shown by the
creation of this thread. :wavey:

Not much insecurity as it shows a desire to light a flame among the WS fans and a thus a shock between the fanbases. And if so, she seems to have succeded, unfortunately.

Hingie
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:15 AM
:lol:

Sure, winning 1 title in 4 years doesn't give you a lot of material

Congratulations - you win the award for most moronic post i've seen on this board for at least a month!

Yes 1 title in 4 years, and out of the game for 3 of them.... hmmmmmm - how could she be so pathetic! :rolleyes:

Lulu.
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:16 AM
Justine has one more career title, but she still has a lot of catching up to do to get to Serena's achievements in total.


Yeah she does and she's not even half way there :)

RenaSlam.
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:19 AM
So Lucas, you are trying to tell everyone that the threadstarter wasn't trying to start some shit? :lol:

Give me a break...

Hingie
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:22 AM
This thread just made me realise how much i miss Serena.

Hope she comes back with a vengeance - just as long as she doesn't take it out on Marti! ;)

lucashg
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:33 AM
So Lucas, you are trying to tell everyone that the threadstarter wasn't trying to start some shit? :lol:

Give me a break...

Not much insecurity as it shows a desire to light a flame among the WS fans and a thus a shock between the fanbases. And if so, she seems to have succeded, unfortunately.

There. I'm not familiar with this poster, so I gave her the benefit of the doubt, but then I read her other posts, especially concerning Clijsters and Hingis.

But people promptly assume she's a Justine fan and start attacking Justine, with such ridiculous posts attacking her personally or downgrading her achievements.

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:55 AM
There was a thread last summer when Kim passed SWilliams in titles. You didn't post the same thing there.

your disdain for jhh fans is entirely due to your idiocy and has nothing to do with what jhh fans actually say on this board.

You are the wrong person to talk about idiocy as you are a speciman of. :wavey:

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:00 AM
For the sake of information, Justine has only four titles which aren't Tier II or above.

Justine's Titles:

GS - Roland Garros '03, US Open '03, Australian Open '04, Roland Garros '05, Roland Garros '06.
OM - Athens Olympics Gold '04
I - Berlin '02, Charleston '03, Berlin '03, Toronto '03, Zurich '03, Indian Wells '04, Charleston '05, Berlin '05.
II - Linz '02, Dubai '03, San Diego '03, Sydney '04, Dubai '04, Warsaw '05, Sydney '06, Dubai '06, Eastbourne '06.
III - Gold Coast '01, 's-Hertogenbosch '01.
IV - Antwerp '99, Canberra '01.

I could be wrong however as I did not follow the WTA at the time, but I believe the only significant change in tournament rankings is that Antwerp was upgraded from IV to II and San Diego from II to I. So I believe I placed them correctly.

Wow, what an impressive palmares at 24 years of age... NOT ! To not forget, she NEVER play doubles !

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:02 AM
Not much insecurity as it shows a desire to light a flame among the WS fans and a thus a shock between the fanbases. And if so, she seems to have succeded, unfortunately.

The insecurity is at JHH fanbase with their obsessive comparison with other players only to bring them down and undermine their performances...

Foot_Fault
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:09 AM
Serena is done
And so is Yo Momma, but you don't here me complaining...do you?:rolleyes:

Brooks.
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:11 AM
The difference being your cheap shot displayed a lack of wit.

yea because we haven't heard the cheeseburger comment at least 100 times already... if you call that wit well..um no comment :tape: :o

MH0861
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:12 AM
Wow, what an impressive palmares at 24 years of age... NOT ! To not forget, she NEVER play doubles !

Can I ask what's not impressive about that? :confused: She's been pro for about 7 years. That's about ~ 7 titles per year.

And she does have a few doubles titles. And Martina isn't playing doubles at this stage either!

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:14 AM
Can I ask what's not impressive about that? :confused: She's been pro for about 7 years. That's about ~ 7 titles per year.

And she does have a few doubles titles. And Martina isn't playing doubles at this stage either!

a few ? When did she last play doubles ? Martina isn't playing doubles, at least wta doubles because she has already 1 Mixed double title at the AO...

Randriantastic!
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:16 AM
a few ? When did she last play doubles ? Martina isn't playing doubles, at least wta doubles because she has already 1 Mixed double title at the AO...
Yeah, that's not really any sort of justification for not playing normal doubles... just like Justine, she's conserving her energy for the singles.

MH0861
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:16 AM
a few ? When did she last play doubles ? Martina isn't playing doubles, at least wta doubles because she has already 1 Mixed double title at the AO...

She won '02 Gold Coast and Zurich. :) She last played doubles with Clijsters in Fed Cup. :)

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:18 AM
She won '02 Auckland and Zurich. :) She last played doubles with Clijsters in Fed Cup. :)

Fed Cup ? It only was for the show, nothing else...

MH0861
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:19 AM
Fed Cup ? It only was for the show, nothing else...

And mixed doubles is?

Sam L
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:19 AM
It's just a matter of time before Justine overtakes Serena's greatness.

RenaSlam.
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:20 AM
It's just a matter of time before Justine overtakes Serena's greatness.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Randriantastic!
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:21 AM
It's just a matter of time before Justine overtakes Serena's greatness.
She's definitely more than halfway, I would say!

And hello to you, Kirsten lover!

Rocketta
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:22 AM
yea because we haven't heard the cheeseburger comment at least 100 times already... if you call that wit well..um no comment :tape: :o

Yeah but really you should've went for Justine's lead in herpes outbreaks if you really wanted to take a good cheap shot. ;)

Brooks.
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:23 AM
It's just a matter of time before Justine overtakes Serena's greatness.

I like how a few months ago you were defending Serena left and right and now you've completely jumped ship in favor of Henin

when Serena comes back and starts winning titles again please don't bother to be her "fan" again...just stick with the JHH fans :D

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:23 AM
And mixed doubles is?

A title to take like another but for JHH, doubles ? Waste of time and Madame is more worth than playing doubles... Again another fact, she only thinks about herself, her ego, ... !

MH0861
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:24 AM
Fed Cup ? It only was for the show, nothing else...

And, atleast Justine played Fed Cup. :)

Brooks.
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:24 AM
Yeah but really you should've went for Justine's lead in herpes outbreaks if you really wanted to take a good cheap shot. ;)

yea...honestly it wasn't something I really thought about...but whatever :p

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:26 AM
And, atleast Justine played Fed Cup. :)

Because of the pressure of the Belgian media and the Belgian people, she did it otherwise she hadn't play the Fed Cup !

MH0861
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:27 AM
A title to take like another but for JHH, doubles ? Waste of time and Madame is more worth than playing doubles... Again another fact, she only thinks about herself, her ego, ... !

I'm not here to belittle Martina Hingis or get into a silly Hingis vs. Henin-Hardenne war just to make you feel better about your favorite player and let you sleep better at night. :) I'm a Martina fan too! Why can't you just respect the achievements of a great player and move on? I doubt Henin is jealous that other players have so much more doubles prowess than her. :lol:

Fingon
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:27 AM
A title to take like another but for JHH, doubles ? Waste of time and Madame is more worth than playing doubles... Again another fact, she only thinks about herself, her ego, ... !

You are really so stupid that it's difficult to answer to you.

Now she should play doubles to show she cares for the other players, the caritative soul should give another players the opportunity to win.

What a piece of crap!, really.

GermanBoy
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:27 AM
Why do people always compare Henin-Hardenne to Serena? :confused: There are so many players out there. Some with many more titles than Henin-Hardenne....

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:30 AM
You are really so stupid that it's difficult to answer to you.

Now she should play doubles to show she cares for the other players, the caritative soul should give another players the opportunity to win.

What a piece of crap!, really.


Yes, I'm stupid, I know nothing about tennis, etc. She doesn't care about other players and will never care about them and I wonder how many friends she has on tour : Not many, I'm sure of it...

Aaron.
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:30 AM
Why do people always compare Henin-Hardenne to Serena? :confused: There are so many players out there. Some with many more titles than Henin-Hardenne.... THATS WELL SAID! :worship:

IceHock
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:31 AM
yea...honestly it wasn't something I really thought about...but whatever :p


if you would have done the herpes shot you prolly would have won round one;) :p .i'm j/k

MH0861
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:33 AM
Yes, I'm stupid, I know nothing about tennis, etc. She doesn't care about other players and will never care about them and I wonder how many friends she has on tour : Not many, I'm sure of it...

Newsflash: Martina Hingis isn't going to win any player popularity contests either, buster. :lol:

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:34 AM
I'm not here to belittle Martina Hingis or get into a silly Hingis vs. Henin-Hardenne war just to make you feel better about your favorite player and let you sleep better at night. :) I'm a Martina fan too! Why can't you just respect the achievements of a great player and move on? I doubt Henin is jealous that other players have so much more doubles prowess than her. :lol:

I will NEVER respect the person she is, this is a real fact. In another thread, a JHH fan started a topic to compare JHH and Martina and now another JHH fan is doing the same with Serena ( I dislike her to be honest ) but the behaviour of the majority of the JHH fans is very ridiculous...

When JHH wins, they are arrogants as hell but when JHH loses they act like w****** .

MH0861
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:36 AM
I will NEVER respect the person she is, this is a real fact. In another thread, a JHH fan started a topic to compare JHH and Martina and now another JHH fan is doing the same with Serena ( I dislike her to be honest ) but the behaviour of the majority of the JHH fans is very ridiculous...

When JHH wins, they are arrogants as hell but when JHH loses they act like w****** .

That's fine, I have no problem with that.

But how does that give you the right to belittle her admittedly impressive accomplishments?

Justeenium
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:36 AM
Why do people always compare Henin-Hardenne to Serena? :confused: There are so many players out there. Some with many more titles than Henin-Hardenne....

look, this is a tennis board. a player passing another to become #5 in titles of current players is news, and will result in a thread. If someone were to pass Kim, Lindsay, or Venus in titles, there would be a thread about it. There is nothing unusual about making a thread like this.

I sure hope some of you whiners don't watch baseball because the commentators talk about players surpassing others all the time.

Brooks.
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:36 AM
if you would have done the herpes shot you prolly would have won round one;) :p .i'm j/k

i know, right

and then I would have been totally validated as a human being :D

I knew there was a reason I had been avoiding stupid threads like this for a while :lol:

Randriantastic!
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:37 AM
I will NEVER respect the person she is, this is a real fact. In another thread, a JHH fan started a topic to compare JHH and Martina and now another JHH fan is doing the same with Serena ( I dislike her to be honest ) but the behaviour of the majority of the JHH fans is very ridiculous...

When JHH wins, they are arrogants as hell but when JHH loses they act like w****** .
I think if we were judging players by their fans, Martina too would be struggling right now with you on her side.

IceHock
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:39 AM
i know, right

and then I would have been totally validated as a human being :D

I knew there was a reason I had been avoiding stupid threads like this for a while :lol:


you gotta admit though,there fun to be in.:)

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:42 AM
That's fine, I have no problem with that.

But how does that give you the right to belittle her admittedly impressive accomplishments?

impressive ? Errrr, impressive is a word I wouldn't use for JHH, great for her she won 26 wta titles but no more, no less...

Martian Jeza
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:45 AM
I think if we were judging players by their fans, Martina too would be struggling right now with you on her side.

I'm a devoted and proud Martina Hingis fan. I will never consider myself as one of the best Hingis fan but she always can count on my loyalty towards her in good and bad times...

MH0861
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:45 AM
impressive ? Errrr, impressive is a word I wouldn't use for JHH, great for her she won 26 wta titles but no more, no less...

5 Grand Slam singles titles (spread over the last 4 years, no less) is impressive in every sense of the word. Players don't really care about the Zurich's and Sydney's of the tour.

GermanBoy
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:53 AM
THATS WELL SAID! :worship:

Well, I just don't understand the excitement of it all. Don't call me a Serena fan though. I have learned to accept and respect her and I think she is good for the WTA and tennis in general. Nothing more but nothing less!

I obviously have my favorites but I have better things to do with my time than starting threads with the title "XY has ... titles, XY has .... titles" or "XY has hit 375 backhands today, XY only 239"... :rolleyes:

RenaSlam.
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:58 AM
5 Grand Slam singles titles (spread over the last 4 years, no less) is impressive in every sense of the word. Players don't really care about the Zurich's and Sydney's of the tour.

Exactly. Serena has bigger and better titles, which matters.

le bon vivant
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:00 AM
Exactly. Serena has bigger and better titles, which matters.LOL, why did I read that as "bigger and better titties"? :tape::help::silly::zzz:

MH0861
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:00 AM
Exactly. Serena has bigger and better titles, which matters.

They were just beginning to scratch the surface of their rivalry. I can't wait to have Serena back and watch them go at it.

darrinbaker00
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:01 AM
LOL, why did I read that as "bigger and better titties"? :tape::help::silly::zzz:
Your average eight-year-old has Justine beat in that department. ;)

vswfan
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:05 AM
Kim has more, but who really thinks that she is better than Serena or Henin-Hardenne?
its not really important to compare those numbers

IceHock
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:06 AM
Your average eight-year-old has Justine beat in that department. ;)


:lol: :lol: .that was a good cheap shot;)

Fingon
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:18 AM
Yes, I'm stupid, I know nothing about tennis, etc.

true

She doesn't care about other players and will never care about them and I wonder how many friends she has on tour : Not many, I'm sure of it...

and since when the title of the thread was how many friends she has on tour?

This is a tennis forum, it's about tennis, not social skills you know?

btw, my idea of you being stupid does not come ONLY from this thread.

Fingon
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:19 AM
Exactly. Serena has bigger and better titles, which matters.
I would say Serena has more of the big and best titles, that would be more accurate.

Fingon
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:24 AM
A title to take like another but for JHH, doubles ? Waste of time and Madame is more worth than playing doubles... Again another fact, she only thinks about herself, her ego, ... !


a few ? When did she last play doubles ? Martina isn't playing doubles, at least wta doubles because she has already 1 Mixed double title at the AO...


so I guess fraulein is more worth than playing doubles... Again another fact, she only thinks about herself, her ego, ...

that would be your opinion, not mine btw.

Justine Fan
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:24 AM
I hear Serena also leads the H2H in cheeseburgers eaten :tape:



Cheap shots are fun :)

And Dunkin' Donuts

:haha: :haha:

Justine Fan
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:40 AM
Yes, I'm stupid, I know nothing about tennis, etc. She doesn't care about other players and will never care about them and I wonder how many friends she has on tour : Not many, I'm sure of it...

You said it :lol: and it's soooooooo true.

More than Chucky has ... much more. This coming from a Martina Hingis fan :haha: :haha: The most unpopular player amongst the tour. Have you ever read Venus Envy? :lol: :lol:

Justine Fan
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:44 AM
I think if we were judging players by their fans, Martina too would be struggling right now with you on her side.

Fabulous!!!!!

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

:yeah:

MrSerenaWilliams
Jun 25th, 2006, 03:44 AM
You forgot Kimmie: 55, I guess
wow...all those titles in year and a half eh? :rolleyes:

MrSerenaWilliams
Jun 25th, 2006, 04:14 AM
Yeah but really you should've went for Justine's lead in herpes outbreaks if you really wanted to take a good cheap shot. ;)
:eek: :eek: :worship: :worship: :tape: :tape:

hingis-seles
Jun 25th, 2006, 06:29 AM
yea because we haven't heard the cheeseburger comment at least 100 times already... if you call that wit well..um no comment :tape: :o

And most of those 100 times, the cheeseburger comment wasn't used in a witty manner, hence it not being funny. But, in this instance it was witty. You could have come up with a much better response which would have amused more people. It's quite easy working with JHH. But you didn't, which is what I was pointing out.

hingis-seles
Jun 25th, 2006, 06:31 AM
Yeah but really you should've went for Justine's lead in herpes outbreaks if you really wanted to take a good cheap shot. ;)

Thank you. This is the point I was trying to make. :)

hingis-seles
Jun 25th, 2006, 06:36 AM
Your average eight-year-old has Justine beat in that department. ;)

You must mean your average eight-year-old BOY has Justine beat in the tits department. You know, the kind Micheal Jackson hangs with.

SelesFan70
Jun 25th, 2006, 06:40 AM
Monica has 53, including 9 Majors :ras:

hingis-seles
Jun 25th, 2006, 06:59 AM
Monica has 53, including 9 Majors :ras:

Serena (26) + Justine (27) = Monica (53) :worship:

I miss Monica. :sad: :hearts: :kiss: