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vogus
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:58 PM
the woman is a bullshitter and she knows little or nothing about the details of pro tennis other than what we fans already know. There's a reason many top stars don't talk to Carillo - she is unprofessional, she doesn't do research, she has no credentials as a player, she doesn't know her stuff and she pulls most of her commentary out of her ass. So many other people in tennis could do a better job.

goldenlox
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:00 PM
Either she is a liar or uninformed, but she says a lot of stuff about players that are not true
and she speaks in a tone of certainty

Abizack
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:01 PM
I wonder how much she gets paid for her great wisdom?

vogus
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:02 PM
Either she is a liar or uninformed, but she says a lot of stuff about players that are not true
and she speaks in a tone of certainty


exactly. This type of pseudo-journalism is unprofessional, to say the least, and embarrasses the sport of tennis. The game just deserves better.

darrinbaker00
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:03 PM
Whenever Navratilova re-retires, I would like to hear her behind the micropohone again. Accent notwithstanding, I thought she did a great job.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:04 PM
Whenever Navratilova re-retires, I would like to hear her behind the micropohone again. Accent notwithstanding, I thought she did a great job.

Yeah, if Mary Carillo had more credibility she'd be easier to take. Like Jmac, sometimes he says shitty things about players...but it's easier to take because he actually KNOWS what he's talking about.

Leo_DFP
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:07 PM
John McEnroe has no idea what he's talking about. His ideas about allowing coaching after each set and bringing back wooden racquets and requiring 3rd set tiebreaks for all Grand Slams are among the dumbest ever.

Give me Carillo any day of the week, thanks.

canoe.
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:10 PM
Yeah, if Mary Carillo had more credibility she'd be easier to take. Like Jmac, sometimes he says shitty things about players...but it's easier to take because he actually KNOWS what he's talking about.
Really? He played a million years ago with his little wooden raquet, in his tight little white shorts. McEnroe is every bit the opportunist fake MC is.. the only reason he does commentary is so he won't be forgotten, and so he can shoot his trap off. During many womens's matches that he commentates on he usually ends up yapping about men's tennis.

volta
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:14 PM
the woman is a bullshitter and she knows little or nothing about the details of pro tennis other than what we fans already know. There's a reason many top stars don't talk to Carillo - she is unprofessional, she doesn't do research, she has no credentials as a player, she doesn't know her stuff and she pulls most of her commentary out of her ass. So many other people in tennis could do a better job.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

perseus2006
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:50 PM
As I said on the other thread, Carillo is a flaming yellow journalist always trying to find or create a sensational story to further her own career. She is the worst possible comentator to have on tv talking tennis to the general audience. She is dishonest, makes up stories and distorts the truth.

JohnnyMac is awful but not as perverse. He insists those around him talk his record up. His main motivation seems to be to convince the audience that he was better than Jimmy Connors!

I'll take Cliff Dryesdale and Mary Jo. Cliff and MJ talk about the current match, what's important to watch for, the stategic setting and Cliff will even have slow motion clips from the current match demonstrating the shots he is talking about and illustrating the positioning, arm and body movement. Those are the two best if it's tennis you are interested in. Go with JohnnyMac and Carillo if it sensationalism, rumor and derogatory inuendo about players that you are interested in.

serenafann
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:50 PM
I can't stand her,and She is as Fair and Balanced as The Fox News Channel.Carillo is the epitome of Bias and Unprofessionalism,whenever her beloved Martina Hingis retires again hopefully she will to.[Well I can Hope can't I,lol].

junlee_vee
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:09 PM
Was another thread about her really necessary?? It's sad that some of you people lose sleep over this women.

serenafann
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:55 PM
I for one Don't lose sleep over Carillo,I just want fairness amd impartiality from ANY Commentator,I don't think its right that She is allowed to get away with her antics.Just more venting basically.

darrinbaker00
Jun 24th, 2006, 08:35 PM
Yeah, if Mary Carillo had more credibility she'd be easier to take. Like Jmac, sometimes he says shitty things about players...but it's easier to take because he actually KNOWS what he's talking about.
I don't dislike Carillo; I would just like to hear Navratilova again. I also think Mary Joe Fernandez shouldn't do commentary when Lindsay Davenport is playing, because her husband is Davenport's agent.

About Carillo's record as a player...sure, 3-8 in singles is not good, and John McEnroe probably did all the heavy lifting when they won the Roland Garros mixed title in 1977. She did make it to that level, however, so she does deserve some respect. Personally, I think she would make a better coach than a broadcaster, because she did have to work that much harder than the next girl to make it.

ico4498
Jun 24th, 2006, 09:08 PM
Carillo gets too much attention for her gossip.

i think she's gone overboard trying to be controversial ... its damaged her credibility but enhanced her notoriety. makes for "good" tv i guess.

*roddicksinme*
Jun 24th, 2006, 09:15 PM
Mary Carillo is honest and frank

auntie janie
Jun 24th, 2006, 09:59 PM
Mary Carillo is honest and frank



:lol:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 24th, 2006, 10:03 PM
Mary Carillo is honest and frank



My ass, during the AO '05 she said the Sharapova took the net more than any of the other Russians. She also said that Sharapova had good vollies :tape: The bitch is a poser, plain and simple. Not to mention more bitter than the skin on a grapefruit.

skanky~skanketta
Jun 24th, 2006, 10:38 PM
cant stand her either.

Scotso
Jun 24th, 2006, 10:42 PM
I can't stand Carillo.

Rome
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:02 AM
My ass, during the AO '05 she said the Sharapova took the net more than any of the other Russians. She also said that Sharapova had good vollies :tape: The bitch is a poser, plain and simple. Not to mention more bitter than the skin on a grapefruit.
Lol

junlee_vee
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:15 AM
She did make it to that level, however, so she does deserve some respect.

Yay for smart people. :bounce:

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:21 AM
Mary Carillo is honest and frank
Mary Carillo is honest and frank

vogus
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:22 AM
Mary Carillo is honest and frank


Mary Carillo is a liar and a phony

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:24 AM
Mary Carillo is a liar and a phony
LOL. Just because she's honest and frank, doesnt necessarily mean she's always correct. But she definitely tells it like it is most of the time, even if it means putting down some players.

vogus
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:27 AM
LOL. Just because she's honest and frank, doesnt necessarily mean she's always correct. But she definitely tells it like it is most of the time, even if it means putting down some players.


making up random bullshit and boring the audience to death with stupid anecdotes does NOT equal "honest and frank". Check your definitions.

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:45 AM
making up random bullshit and boring the audience to death with stupid anecdotes does NOT equal "honest and frank". Check your definitions.
Well that's just your opinion. :shrug: Personally I think she's hilarious most of the time, and honest. And she doesnt blab away to no end like some of the other commentators do.

vogus
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:56 AM
Well that's just your opinion. :shrug: Personally I think she's hilarious most of the time, and honest. And she doesnt blab away to no end like some of the other commentators do.


well, if you think she's hilarious, fine, that's an opinion. A lot of people don't share it.

But i don't see how you can call the woman honest. She presents issues that are open to debate as fact. She can't be bothered to check whether something is true before announcing it to the world. She pretends to know more than she does. And that is not good journalism and it certainly isn't honest journalism.

Belmont Lad
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:06 AM
Does Mary Carillo polarize an audience, sure. Do I think she's hilarious, absolutely. :)

Dawn Marie
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:20 AM
I liked BJK when she was on HBO. She was so real and so unbiased about each and every player. She talked tennis and she was honest. I also liked Chanda Rubin when she did her stint. U talk about a natural.

Someone else that I find to be a good one is Katrina Adams for the tennis channel. She is really good.

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 25th, 2006, 01:23 AM
I liked BJK when she was on HBO. She was so real and so unbiased about each and every player. She talked tennis and she was honest. I also liked Chanda Rubin when she did her stint. U talk about a natural.

Someone else that I find to be a good one is Katrina Adams for the tennis channel. She is really good.
BJK I also love.
Chanda I've never heard, but I'd imagine she'd be a joy.
Can't really stand Katrina Adams. :o

vogus
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:46 AM
I liked BJK when she was on HBO. She was so real and so unbiased about each and every player. She talked tennis and she was honest. I also liked Chanda Rubin when she did her stint. U talk about a natural.




Chanda was great. She sounds like she was born to commentate tennis matches. It's ironic because i didn't like her as a player.

Stamp Paid
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:48 AM
Carillo is a damn clown.
And a lesbian predator.

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:50 AM
Brilliant avatar, J.

vogus
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:51 AM
Carillo is a damn clown.
And a lesbian predator.


rumor has it she is a mother of two kids. I personally can't believe it.

Stamp Paid
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:53 AM
Brilliant avatar, J.

thanks. :o

hey i know ur feeling Loose - u heard the Maneater remix?

Stamp Paid
Jun 25th, 2006, 02:53 AM
rumor has it she is a mother of two kids. I personally can't believe it.

turkey baster babies, im sure.

Jakeev
Jun 25th, 2006, 03:42 AM
Oh for pete sake vogus if your are not the most predictable, hypocritical freak on this tennis board.

Don't buy into this poster's diatribe folks. This is a man who thinks that skunk Peter Dodo is the next thing to slice bread.

I guess you have your head so far up his arse that you wouldn't know "honest and frank" and "bullshitting" if it threw an axe at your head.

Ugh get me out of this thread before I have to vomit........

switz
Jun 25th, 2006, 03:53 AM
But i don't see how you can call the woman honest. She presents issues that are open to debate as fact. She can't be bothered to check whether something is true before announcing it to the world. She pretends to know more than she does. And that is not good journalism and it certainly isn't honest journalism.

much like your friend Pete Bodo ;) i'm sure there's some reason why he's different though.

i seem to be one of the fortunate souls to have never had to hear her commentate. I have no idea what she sounds or looks likes but i can imagine what she's like.

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 25th, 2006, 03:59 AM
thanks. :o

hey i know ur feeling Loose - u heard the Maneater remix?
I cant find it on Limewire. :o Send it to me on MSN. :p

canoe.
Jun 25th, 2006, 04:03 AM
much like your friend Pete Bodo ;) i'm sure there's some reason why he's different though.

i seem to be one of the fortunate souls to have never had to hear her commentate. I have no idea what she sounds or looks likes but i can imagine what she's like.
What did we ever do without the internet. :lol:
Ms Carillo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o4sQX0dTAI&search=mary%20carillo)

darrinbaker00
Jun 25th, 2006, 04:27 AM
What did we ever do without the internet. :lol:
Ms Carillo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o4sQX0dTAI&search=mary%20carillo)
Any idea who that last player was with the spikes on their shoes?

SAEKeithSerena
Jun 25th, 2006, 04:31 AM
lovessssss it, she's a dirti biatch, one that shouldn't be giving advice.

junlee_vee
Jun 25th, 2006, 04:41 AM
What did we ever do without the internet. :lol:
Ms Carillo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o4sQX0dTAI&search=mary%20carillo)

I love the symbolism in that piece. And when it shows Andre... :sad: makes me sad he's retiring.