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treufreund
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:31 PM
this girl can move around the court and has improved her serve to some extent, her forehand a bit and her volleys and finesse quite a bit. I think she has the penetrating shots and level of consistency in her game to really challenge Venus. I am putting it really at 50-50 should anastasia stay healthy and not have a letdown.

charmedRic
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:34 PM
Why a threat to the Williams Sisters? Why not any player on tour?

And what does Myskina's game have to do with their fans?

Honestly people. Go outside, pick up the racket, and enjoy the game.

Bounty Hunter
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:35 PM
Oh Lord..... I hope my fellow Williams fans do not take the bait on this thread.... :lol:

Rexman
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:35 PM
I hope so. It's just such a damn shame they meet so early given Myskina's turning things around lately. Just too bad she didn't quite pull it out against Henin. I've also taken a little bit of a liking to Venus lately, so either way I won't be completely happy.

treufreund
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:40 PM
Oh Lord..... I hope my fellow Williams fans do not take the bait on this thread.... :lol:

take the bait?? please stop being a drama queen :rolleyes: what is the big deal about complimenting Myskina (and venus) and saying that she can threaten Venus big time in the 4th round. Somebody asked why she is not a threat to the whole tour? well, in short, myskina is, but she faces venus in the 4TH ROUND OF WIMBLEDON and VENUS IS DEFENDING CHAMPION so that is why I focused on her. I cannot believe I am actually bothering to have to point these things out. :confused:

DragonFlame
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:44 PM
i agree myskina has improved a lot! i was really impressed with how she was serving :eek:

G_Slammed
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:46 PM
Too bad this one slam wonder couldn't beat JHH. That way, you'd be able to say that Williams might as well not show up to Wimbledon.

Viktymise
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:52 PM
Yes Myskina impressed me but the eastbourne courts play differently than Wimbledon one's and Vee is a different player to play than JHH, i honestly couldnt see myskina beat Vee at Wimbledon, a set taken at most personally

Paneru
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:56 PM
Oh Lord..... I hope my fellow Williams fans do not take the bait on this thread.... :lol:
:yeah:

Myskina is a Slam holder for
crying out loud! The fact that she
can be very competitive with anyone
IMO goes w/o saying but I guess certain
folks have to make points here, there, and everywhere.

dreamgoddess099
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:56 PM
I love how you start a thread about Myskina being a huge threat to Venus because she almost beat your fav Justine. Myskina'a always been a good player and threat, and Venus and her fans already know that. That being said, Venus is capable of playing on grass a little bit herself and has never feared anyone; I doubt she's about to start.

goldenlox
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:01 PM
Myskina is a long way from the fourth round.
Cara Black will test her right away

RenaSlam.
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:03 PM
Everyone's a threat.

They both have to get to the 4R first, though.

K-Dog
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:04 PM
Well, off the ground, yes. I think that if Venus is not timing the ball well off the ground, Myskina can give her a lot of trouble. Myskina's serve isn't any better, in fact it is worse if you ask me. The first serve is slow and not placed that well, and the second serve is short and like in the 60's mphs. Venus is going to be returning and following that into the net time and time again. Justine looked a bit unsure of herself coming in today, but everytime she did, Nastya was on her heels and usually didn't do enough with the pass. If Venus doesn't allow this to become a hitting match, she wins. Venus must serve well, attack every serve, and coming into the net a lot to win. Not to forget, the courts at Eastbourne play A LOT differently than the courts at the All-England Club. How many times have we seen over the past few years the winner of events right before Wimbledon crash out early at Wimbledon? Too many and that is because the grass at Wimbledon is more hardcourt-like now than the more pure grass of the tune-up events. The timing is different.

Knizzle
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:07 PM
treufreund this thread is even lamer than you are.

vejh
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:10 PM
How about the courts at Rosmalen? How do they compare to those of Wimby?

Bijoux0021
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:20 PM
I watched the match from beginning to end; I didn't see any improvement in Myskina's serve.

Wannabeknowitall
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:25 PM
Anastacia could be a huge threat but it depends on who Venus plays. If Venus plays Jankovic then she isn't going to lose to Myskina. Jankovic plays the same style that Myskina plays but she has a better serve. Myskina has more fight in her but it won't matter if she can't get to most of Venus' shots.

Volcana
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:27 PM
It's truly unfortunate those improvements won't help her against any of the other players on the tour.

treufreund
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:29 PM
I love how you start a thread about Myskina being a huge threat to Venus because she almost beat your fav Justine. Myskina'a always been a good player and threat, and Venus and her fans already know that. That being said, Venus is capable of playing on grass a little bit herself and has never feared anyone; I doubt she's about to start.

well, no, because until this week Myskina has struggled due to personal issues. Btw, I never made it sound like Venus should not show up! I said it is 50-50! funny, how people like to selectively read. :rolleyes: venus is a great grass player and defending champion so of course she can beat anastasia and ANY OTHER PLAYER :wavey:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:43 PM
Just because Myskina troubled Justine doesn't mean she'll beat Venus. Venus plays a different style than Justine, and her shots are more penetrating which are deadly on a grass court.

October
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:44 PM
If shes soo improved then shes gona be threat to everyone!!! Thats nice atleast there will be more competition rather than the usual winners.

Infiniti2001
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:46 PM
treufiend, you made a boo-boo :rolleyes: Did you think that a thread where you deliberately try to provoke a fan base will be ignored?? :shrug:

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:46 PM
:retard:

Il Primo!
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:47 PM
Don't think so. She can counter Juju cause she's not really a hard hitter. She could also counter Sveta cause Sveta uses topspin. But Venus serves and hits flat and powerful. But Good luck to Nastya. It's good she found her real tennis :yeah:

vogus
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:47 PM
this girl can move around the court and has improved her serve to some extent, her forehand a bit and her volleys and finesse quite a bit. I think she has the penetrating shots and level of consistency in her game to really challenge Venus. I am putting it really at 50-50 should anastasia stay healthy and not have a letdown.



you are an ass for starting this. Bad rep sent.

Of course Nastya is a threat to anybody now, she's been playing well.

Anna F'd Enrique
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:47 PM
it sucks that Myskina and Venus have to meet each other so early...they are my top two favorite players!

saki
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:54 PM
I don't really understand why people are so annoyed by this thread. I wouldn't be annoyed if someone started a thread saying that Jamea Jackson would beat Justine early in Wimbledon :confused: (Well, I'd disagree, but I wouldn't find it annoying.)

Myskina is playing really well. Venus would obviously be the favourite if they meet in the fourth round (although still 3 rounds to play for both of them so...) but, particularly since it would be an early meeting, I certainly think Myskina's in with a shot. Her serve, though, really hasn't improved at all - Justine hit winners off it without much effort, Venus would eat it for breakfast - she would have to win it with her groundstrokes and I don't know if Venus would let her do that. I'd give her, based on today's form, a 20% shot at upsetting Venus. It would be more like 10% if they were scheduled to meet in the SF but I just think Venus is more vulnerable early on.

hingisGOAT
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:00 PM
also, myskina has won two of their last three. just saying

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:05 PM
also, myskina has won two of their last three. just saying

Both on clay, just saying.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:06 PM
It would be more like 10% if they were scheduled to meet in the SF but I just think Venus is more vulnerable early on.

Well I don't know about that, the 4r last year is just when Venus hit her form.

The Daviator
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:12 PM
Some people here are so sensitive :rolleyes:

This thread is perfectly legit, Myskina is the first 'real' threat that Venus will face in her attempt to defend her crown, and judging by her play today, Venus better watch out, and I agree with what the OP said, I hope they play, it would be a great encounter...

Infiniti2001
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:13 PM
I don't really understand why people are so annoyed by this thread.

There's no need to start such a thread when you know the history between you and a certain fan base on this board :shrug: Furthermore he could have expressed his Myskina findings without addressing said fan base.

serenafan08
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:14 PM
:yawn: :rolleyes:

vejh
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:16 PM
It is a huge plus for Venus that she hits deep penetrating shots that JHH just doesn't do much of . The latter uses more topspin.

-VSR-
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:23 PM
This isn't clay people, we are talking about grass. Venus is the better player, I trust her.

mboyle
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:28 PM
I think you are totally right. Venus is the better grass court player, but she lost to K Sprem on grass, didn't she? Yes there was controversy, but Venus didn't play her best, and was in a slump very similar to the one she's in now (but also similar to the one she was in last year, so go figure.) Venus will probably be most vulnerable in that match against Myskina, should it happen. Once Vee gets to the semis, my money is on her to win it all, but, the R16 and the QF, anything could happen with those...

Abizack
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:29 PM
Honestly people. Go outside, pick up the racket, and enjoy the game.

Amen to that! I just got done playing and I am awaiting a call to play in just a bit.

azmad_88
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:29 PM
lets hope they will play at 4r first...there could be upsets along the way

oakkao
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:35 PM
I think Myskina definitely is a threat and has a chance- to win a few points, maybe 4 games total :shrug: I hope they both can get there :) :wavey:

hingis-seles
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:37 PM
Remember Schaivone almost beat Juju in the final in Sydney, but then got walloped by Kim in the 4th Round, when there were question marks surrounding Kim's form? This is the WTA. Expect most of the seeds to progress as expected.

Knizzle
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:46 PM
I don't really understand why people are so annoyed by this thread. I wouldn't be annoyed if someone started a thread saying that Jamea Jackson would beat Justine early in Wimbledon :confused: (Well, I'd disagree, but I wouldn't find it annoying.)

Myskina is playing really well. Venus would obviously be the favourite if they meet in the fourth round (although still 3 rounds to play for both of them so...) but, particularly since it would be an early meeting, I certainly think Myskina's in with a shot. Her serve, though, really hasn't improved at all - Justine hit winners off it without much effort, Venus would eat it for breakfast - she would have to win it with her groundstrokes and I don't know if Venus would let her do that. I'd give her, based on today's form, a 20% shot at upsetting Venus. It would be more like 10% if they were scheduled to meet in the SF but I just think Venus is more vulnerable early on.

The thread title says Myskina could be a huge threat for Williams AND her fans. What do the fans have to do with it?? I don't think alot of Williams fans have been saying Venus would surely beat Myskina or that Anastasia had no chance. Why can't Myskina be a threat to Mauresmo or Sharapova also?? Why just Venus Williams and her fans?? Myskina is playing very well so if she can continue it she can be a threat to everyone, not just Venus and her fans.

Viktymise
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:50 PM
How about the courts at Rosmalen? How do they compare to those of Wimby?
I think Rosmalen courts play a bit faster than Wimbledon

CrossCourt~Rally
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:52 PM
Why a threat to the Williams Sisters? Why not any player on tour?

And what does Myskina's game have to do with their fans?

Honestly people. Go outside, pick up the racket, and enjoy the game.

:bowdown:

Marshmallow
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:57 PM
If Myskina plays well enough to beat Venus, or if Venus doesn't play well enough to beat Myskina... well that's life. That's the game. I think if Venus player her game well she shoud win, but Myskina will be VERY tough to beat.

I'd like to see Venus win this whole thing and know she's capable, but if there is she doesn't play well enough to win.... that's life.

saki
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:07 PM
The thread title says Myskina could be a huge threat for Williams AND her fans. What do the fans have to do with it?? I don't think alot of Williams fans have been saying Venus would surely beat Myskina or that Anastasia had no chance. Why can't Myskina be a threat to Mauresmo or Sharapova also?? Why just Venus Williams and her fans?? Myskina is playing very well so if she can continue it she can be a threat to everyone, not just Venus and her fans.

Yeah, ok, fair point. I didn't really look at the title more at the post itself.

1handedwonder
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:01 PM
What a conundrum!! As a venus and nastya fan, its gonna suck that they have to play soo early, i really wanted nastya to get to at least the qtrs again, but i have to go with venus, even though nastya can play the type of game that gets to venus, i think a win at wimby this year would really shut alot of people up

RenaSlam.
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:07 PM
The Williams' Sisters are still constantly being used as a benchmark and as a comparison. Quite a compliment. :)

Thauron
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:12 PM
Remember Schaivone almost beat Juju in the final in Sydney, but then got walloped by Kim in the 4th Round, when there were question marks surrounding Kim's form? This is the WTA. Expect most of the seeds to progress as expected.

Well yes, but that is Schiavone against Clijsters - as it stands now she will never be able to beat the latter for some dark reason. Well, if she can take one single set in their 12th encounter that would be start... Myskina did trouble and beat Venus before, though not on grass.

But on topic - of course Myskina will be dangerous for Venus (and vice versa). I think that match, if nothing comes between it, will very much depend on Venus' serve and her ability to finish points quickly (without a horrible error count) - if she doesn't and Myskina plays a good match, she's toast.

Of course... if... if... if... We'll what happens, when it happens, if it happens. ;) I hate the draw though. :fiery:

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:19 PM
What do Venus fans have to do with Venus and Anastasia?

new-york
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:22 PM
fresh news.

treufreund
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:40 PM
ok i will edit the title if you are being picky!!! i mean a threat to her fans because if she beats Venus it will hurt her fans. :rolleyes:

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:42 PM
I didn't know you had such a big heart to think of Venus fans in that way. Venus fans must be so special to get your kind of attention if a loss is at hand. I feel all warm inside because of this genuine consideration :rolleyes:

squig2k
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:48 PM
myskina played well at eatbourne, i hope she can take that with her and advance to the 4th round and put up a fight against venus

Knizzle
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:53 PM
ok i will edit the title if you are being picky!!! i mean a threat to her fans because if she beats Venus it will hurt her fans. :rolleyes:

Is she a threat to anyone besides Venus??

treufreund
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:56 PM
Is she a threat to anyone besides Venus??

yes, but venus is in her round of 16, is the defending champion and one of the faves. myskina is a threat to a ton of other players too but that is not exactly worth mentioning since she is not slated to meet them in the round of 16

Wannabeknowitall
Jun 24th, 2006, 08:00 PM
I think Rosmalen courts play a bit faster than Wimbledon
To me the courts at Rosmalen play a little slower and there's more true bounces than the Wimbledon courts. Eastbourne plays faster than the Wimbledon courts and has some funky bounces. Birmingham actually plays the closest to the Wimbledon courts.

SAEKeithSerena
Jun 24th, 2006, 08:05 PM
Why a threat to the Williams Sisters? Why not any player on tour?

And what does Myskina's game have to do with their fans?

Honestly people. Go outside, pick up the racket, and enjoy the game.


:worship: :worship:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jun 24th, 2006, 08:06 PM
Yeeeeeeeees , Nastya will destroy to Venus


WTA ranking :

Nastya 11
Venus 12

oakkao
Jun 24th, 2006, 08:34 PM
^^

Grand Slams

Venus: 5

Myskina: 1

Elena Dementieva: 0 :o

I am a fan of both, but I have to be ealistic, I don't think Myskina will win :shrug: The loss she suffered today against Justine certainly won't help her chances. I am just praying that the both get there :shrug: