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Mightymirza
Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:51 PM
Shame on Rosamelon if this is true.. :tape: Lena doesntcomplain in vain..It must be really bad if shes so angry..Its rarely that she loses her cool off court!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UPDATE 2-Dementieva unhappy with officials after defeat
Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:43 PM BST
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By Emma Thomasson

DEN BOSCH, Netherlands (Reuters) - Angry Russian top seed Elena Dementieva hit out at Dutch match officials on Friday after she lost the semi-final of the Ordina Open to local favourite Michaella Krajicek 1-6 7-6 6-4.

"I feel like I won this match. I think the line umpires were trying to help her during the whole game," the world number eight told journalists.


"It was not easy to play because she had a much bigger court than the normal size. Every ball that was going out was in.

"I understand she was playing at home and the crowd want her to be in the final and it's good for the tournament but, you know, it must be fair play," the 24-year-old said.

Clearly superior in the first set, Dementieva said she lost concentration after officials called a shot out at matchpoint in the second set.

Krajicek, ranked 55 in the world, went on to take the set in a tiebreak.

Cheered on by the Dutch crowd, the 17-year-old saved two break points on her serve in the ninth game of the third set, then went on to break Dementieva to take the match.

"That was the best match of my career," Krajicek said. "I never thought I could win but it is great that it happened."

Despite her anger, Dementieva said the tournament in Den Bosch had helped her prepare for Wimbledon.

"If feel like I own my game on grass courts and I feel good so I just need a couple of days to recover...I'm sure I'm going to be ready for Monday," she said.

Krajicek's opponent in Saturday's final will be Russian second seed Dinara Safina who beat Eleni Daniilidou of Greece 6-3 3-6 6-4.

FrenchY52
Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:52 PM
Lena is very fairplay .. So .. dunno
But if it's true : OMG

Mightymirza
Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:56 PM
yeah thats the thing..Its very rare that lena whines about something baselessly..Must be a lot of close calls that went against her...

junlee_vee
Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:59 PM
Clearly superior in the first set, Dementieva said she lost concentration after officials called a shot out at matchpoint in the second set.

Her fault...don't blame officials for your lack of concentration.

Danči Dementia
Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:59 PM
yeah thats the thing..Its very rare that lena whines about something baselessly..Must be a lot of close calls that went against her...

My girl doesn't get angry for nothing.............. so the damned umpire pissed her off with his mistakes so what :confused:

KClijsters
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:05 PM
This is not a nice reaction from Elena....
That ball from Misa on matchpoint for Elena was really in.....and the officials also gave the ball in. The ball was on the line.....and Elena had so many chances to win this match, but she didn't take it.... it's her fault that she lost that match, not the fault of the officials.

SilK
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:07 PM
I just saw that MP on tv... and the ball clearly touched the line. :shrug:
Don't know what Elena is complaining about.

Dementinator
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:10 PM
well its rare for Elena to ever complain about officials ,in fact in all my years of folowing her ,never seen it before ,so theres something in it ,and it would suprise me at all if theres some "home" advantage,its happened before ,hence why a lot of home players do well in their own touney to only crash and burn anywhere else..

I do agree however that Elena has to start getting more solid in these moments and stop letting them get to her ,she has to retain focus ,sometimes her mental balance goes awry and the whole mental house of cards goes ass over tit and comes crashing down ,she needs to adress this problem..

KClijsters
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:11 PM
I just saw that MP on tv... and the ball clearly touched the line. :shrug:
Don't know what Elena is complaining about.

Yeah, I also don't understand it :shrug:
That ball from Misa was on the line.

.david.
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:14 PM
Oh its a shame i could not watch the Match. If Elena is right then sorry for her but if not then :rolleyes:

omg just imagine the reactions here if Maria said soemtihng like this :tape:

davidmario
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:15 PM
was that ball out? anyone seen it on tv?

KClijsters
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:17 PM
well its rare for Elena to ever complain about officials ,in fact in all my years of folowing her ,never seen it before ,so theres something in it ,and it would suprise me at all if theres some "home" advantage,its happened before ,hence why a lot of home players do well in their own touney to only crash and burn anywhere else..

I do agree however that Elena has to start getting more solid in these moments and stop letting them get to her ,she has to retain focus ,sometimes her mental balance goes awry and the whole mental house of cards goes ass over tit and comes crashing down ,she needs to adress this problem..

It's not because of the home advantage that Misa won this match, she played very good. Certain in the second en third set. But Elena also don't took the chances she had. She could serve for the match at 5-4 in the second set and was up in the tiabreak with 4-0 and 5-2.

-VSR-
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:17 PM
I just saw that MP on tv... and the ball clearly touched the line. :shrug:
Don't know what Elena is complaining about.

:rolleyes:

What a sore loser.

TFan1156
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:18 PM
Yeah, I also don't understand it :shrug:
That ball from Misa was on the line.

If you look at the article again Elena seems to be talking about many balls, not just one.... I know this can happen as there has often been an orgy of cheating for Agassi in the U.S.

KClijsters
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:18 PM
was that ball out? anyone seen it on tv?

No, that ball from Misa was on the line....

CrossCourt~Rally
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:20 PM
Maybe someonefrom the board who was actually there can give us the facts :bounce:

KClijsters
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:23 PM
It's not the fault of the officials that Elena lost this match..... she had so many chances to win this match. She could serve for the match at 5-4 second set and was up in the tiabreak with 4-0 and 5-2...if she (had hold her nerves and) didn't hit DF on important points, I think she had won this match.

TFan1156
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:25 PM
No, that ball from Misa was on the line....

Did you see a Hawkeye replay? What about the many other alleged out balls called in that Elena alludes to? And who did you want to win the match? ;)

Rocketta
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:26 PM
I don't know if Elena complains about officials but I do know she's said some mean spirited things after matches. :shrug:

KClijsters
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:31 PM
Did you see a Hawkeye replay? What about the many other alleged out balls called in that Elena alludes to? And who did you want to win the match? ;)

I saw it on the television and that ball really touched the line.....and yeah as a dutch one I was supporting for Misa, but I have nothing against Elena. If that ball was really out, than I would have said that too.

Maybe there were some calls in her disadvantage, but that's not the reason she lost this match. That's her own fault. She had enough chances.

mn73
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:33 PM
Good! Maybe she'll come to Eastbourne next year instead and I can see her play :bounce: :lol: :bounce:

Shenanigans
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:34 PM
She sounds pissed about it but surely the umpire was not Dutch as it was a Dutch player who was playing.
I think though with players sometimes when they get a bad line call (or what they peceive as one) and especially when the crowd is supporting the other player they lose trust in the officials and feel every line call is a wrong call.

Dementinator
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:34 PM
Good! Maybe she'll come to Eastbourne next year instead and I can see her play :bounce: :lol: :bounce:


Absolutely!! so can I then! ,Its time she dumped that two bit tourney anyways , go to one that can at least organise a deccent website! hehe :lol:

zibaas
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:43 PM
i like Elena
but she lost very easily her concentration and after the game is never her fault, and i donīt like this kind of excuses :(
I donīt know if it wasnīt or not a fair play but, was her fault of losing the match especially with so many oportunities.

SilK
Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:46 PM
... this thread is a little silly after all.

fact is, it's not the reason Elena lost the match. she had so many chances, and not every single one of those chances went lost in an incorrect call.

TFan1156
Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:09 PM
I saw it on the television and that ball really touched the line.....and yeah as a dutch one I was supporting for Misa, but I have nothing against Elena. If that ball was really out, than I would have said that too.

Maybe there were some calls in her disadvantage, but that's not the reason she lost this match. That's her own fault. She had enough chances.

Sounds reasonable to me. I mean if they were cheating they could only do it so much, and I have no doubt that Elena choked it away given her leads in the second set tie-break and winning only one point on her serve at 4-5 third set.

SAEKeithSerena
Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:11 PM
whatever elena. i'm sure she had bad calls against her as well.

jas_aussie
Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:18 PM
poor elena

Drake1980
Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:20 PM
:eek: but congrats to Misa!

Pheobo
Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:26 PM
Well, I'm happy with what she said at the end of the article. This loss made me worried about her Wimbledon chances, but she seems confident.

KClijsters
Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:42 PM
... this thread is a little silly after all.

fact is, it's not the reason Elena lost the match. she had so many chances, and not every single one of those chances went lost in an incorrect call.

I totally agree with you! :yeah:

cellophane
Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:57 PM
Sounds like sour grapes. :o Lena. :o

Mightymirza
Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:59 PM
... this thread is a little silly after all.

fact is, it's not the reason Elena lost the match. she had so many chances, and not every single one of those chances went lost in an incorrect call.
hey whats wrong with the thread???Just posting an article here...That too from Reuters..

PointBlank
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:03 AM
whatever elena. i'm sure she had bad calls against her as well.

Then its agreed we can drop the USO QF in 2004?

UDACHi
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:05 AM
'UDACHi unhappy with Dementieva after defeat'.

Bounty Hunter
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:12 AM
"It was not easy to play because she had a much bigger court than the normal size. Every ball that was going out was in."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :worship:

Derek.
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:19 AM
'UDACHi unhappy with Dementieva after defeat'.

:lol: :o

controlfreak
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:25 AM
Well I hope Krajicek loses in the first round of Wimbledon due to bad line calls. (But I hoped that anyway before this thread appeared.)

PointBlank
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:46 AM
'UDACHi unhappy with Dementieva after defeat'.

I was gonna ask you if youve seen this. :rolls:.

Wannabeknowitall
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:50 AM
I don't know if Elena complains about officials but I do know she's said some mean spirited things after matches. :shrug:
You have some examples. :devil: :angel:

TFan1156
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:57 AM
You have some examples. :devil: :angel:

U.S. Open semi last year, accused Pierce of cheating. Elena had trounced her in the first set then Pierce goes for a long back massage and comes back a new woman... ;) Elena probably does need to do less blaming and take a closer look at her choking.

Abizack
Jun 24th, 2006, 01:16 AM
Either she is very paranoid or she got screwed big time. I would of liked to see this match. I am sure she would of liked some Hawk-Eye during that match.

UDACHi
Jun 24th, 2006, 01:20 AM
U.S. Open semi last year, accused Pierce of cheating. Elena had trounced her in the first set then Pierce goes for a long back massage and comes back a new woman... ;) Elena probably does need to do less blaming and take a closer look at her choking.

Uhm, that is very untrue. She said that Mary could do it by the rules but she didn't really think it was fair.

Veritas
Jun 24th, 2006, 02:36 AM
Her fault...don't blame officials for your lack of concentration.

So I guess Serena losing concentration after those disasterous line calls at the 2004 US Open Quarterfinals was entirely her fault as well?!! :rolleyes:

Mightymirza
Jun 24th, 2006, 02:39 AM
So I guess Serena losing concentration after those disasterous line calls at the 2004 US Open Quarterfinals was entirely her fault as well?!! :rolleyes:
people just forget to be FAIR at times..Its okay with ur fav but not okay with someone else :tape:

stevos
Jun 24th, 2006, 02:45 AM
well its rare for Elena to ever complain about officials ,in fact in all my years of folowing her ,never seen it before ,so theres something in it ,and it would suprise me at all if theres some "home" advantage,its happened before ,hence why a lot of home players do well in their own touney to only crash and burn anywhere else..

I do agree however that Elena has to start getting more solid in these moments and stop letting them get to her ,she has to retain focus ,sometimes her mental balance goes awry and the whole mental house of cards goes ass over tit and comes crashing down ,she needs to adress this problem..
Kinda like Mirza only winning her Indian tournament :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :wavey:

Belmont Lad
Jun 24th, 2006, 02:49 AM
Yes Elena, it's all been rigged against you to advance the home town girl... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

sunset
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:00 AM
My only regret is that I didn't get to see her play.
She is really pleasing to watch.

PointBlank
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:09 AM
Kinda like Mirza only winning her Indian tournament :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :wavey:

That has nothing to do with it. Read his whole comment.

Douchebag. :rolleyes:.

Rocketta
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:31 AM
So I guess Serena losing concentration after those disasterous line calls at the 2004 US Open Quarterfinals was entirely her fault as well?!! :rolleyes:

You're correct it was Serena's fault for losing concentration at the Open just like it was her fault for losing concentration at the French. The difference is that Serena never said those bad situations were the cause of her losing which is what Dementieva is doing. Sure she was pissed at Justine and rightly so but she never said that was the reason she lost. So please stop trying to bring Serena into this. This is all about Elena and what she had to say.

borisy
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:59 AM
If there weren't these terrible line judges, Elena would be no.1 by now :(

TiK-Tee
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:33 AM
bad called for Lena in Misa's home

slk45
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:15 AM
U.S. Open semi last year, accused Pierce of cheating. Elena had trounced her in the first set then Pierce goes for a long back massage and comes back a new woman... ;) Elena probably does need to do less blaming and take a closer look at her choking.Not true. As I just posted elsewhere, Even in her disgust over the USO last year, Elena declined several press invitations to complain about Pierce. She repeated several times that what Pierce did was entirely within the rules. After about the 4th question on the subject, "But don't you think it was a little unfair the way this was done?", she responded, "Yes, but it's all legal." That was the extent of her "complaint." She was entitled to a lot more. And even if she did complain about calls in the match against Michaella, she did it with some wit: "It was not easy to play because she had a much bigger court than the normal size. Every ball that was going out was in." :scratch: :lol: Now every one of the ESPN commentators thought Pierce's delay was a gross abuse of the rules. Mary Carrillo said it was "a crime." But Elena did not accuse Pierce of 'cheating,' even tho' the media wanted to hear it.

slk45
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:30 AM
I just saw that MP on tv... and the ball clearly touched the line. :shrug:
Don't know what Elena is complaining about.The view from the complaining player's side can be much different from the view we see on tv. Happens all the time, more particularly if it is close. And if the player is right on top of the ball, in the heat of a point, they will also get a distorted view of it relative to the line.If you look at the article again Elena seems to be talking about many balls, not just one.... I know this can happen as there has often been an orgy of cheating for Agassi in the U.S.I don't know if there has been an orgy of cheating anywhere, but I've occasionally seen an orgy of incompetence by line judges. One tournament I've been at (which shall remain nameless) had a such a flurry of bad calls that the players were just looking at each other and :shrug: . Even when some of the calls were in their favor, they just shook their heads. They just played on, hoping to last until the next shift of linesmen came on.

SilK
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:35 AM
bad called for Lena in Misa's home

technically her home is in Prague as well... :shrug:

natacha1
Jun 24th, 2006, 09:57 AM
It happens all the time that players see a ball out and the ball is in our that they think their ball is in while it is out. And when you see it, you really do believe that that ball was out (our in).

Dementieva is not a person who is going to lie, she really believed that ball was out and maybe that was where she lost her concentration. It is just bad that on gras you can not check it like on gravel.

I hope the Hawk-Eye is comming verry soon.

zibaas
Jun 24th, 2006, 10:44 AM
If there weren't these terrible line judges, Elena would be no.1 by now :(

:lol:

wally1
Jun 24th, 2006, 10:49 AM
My only regret is that I didn't get to see her play.
She is really pleasing to watch.Video of some key bits of the match here:- http://www.misakrajicek.nl/beelden/ros06_hf.php

Viktymise
Jun 24th, 2006, 10:55 AM
Lena doesnt complain unless its actualy serious, and there is nothing worse than getting a bad call on match point up :o but im sure she will get over it like that US Open thing last yr and do well at Wimbledon like at the fed cup after it

Viktymise
Jun 24th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Video of some key bits of the match here:- http://www.misakrajicek.nl/beelden/ros06_hf.php
Lena actually looks in good form going into Wimbledon :)

davidmario
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:11 PM
Oh I thought Elena had a MP and her ball was given out.

GracefulVenus
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:44 PM
ooooooooooooooweeeeeeeeee man! If it is coming from Dementieva, I believe her. She has never been one to complain! I say shot spot for all tourneys.

Carmen Mairena
Jun 24th, 2006, 01:01 PM
I like it when a player tells the truth! It's so rare...

Well said Elena! :yeah: :hug:

BoucharDRules
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:04 PM
"I feel like I won this match. I think the line umpires were trying to help her during the whole game," the world number eight told journalists.


If Elena says she won the match, then I say that's all that is needed to pronounce her the victor!

And since Elena would have beaten Safina too.....

Elena Dementieva Ordina Open Champion 2006 :worship:

sapir1434
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:07 PM
Lena :hug:

DragonFlame
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:10 PM
even though i'm a fan of both, elena lost this match herself. not because of a bad call(wich i think was a good call) at a matchpoint. she was also 4-0 and 5-2 up in the tiebreak and still lost it by producing a df an error and a good point by misa to make it 5-5. and after 5-5 a df at setpoint for misa. that's just her own doing.
you can't blame the linejudges for that.

junlee_vee
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:55 PM
If there weren't these terrible line judges, Elena would be no.1 by now :(

:haha: :haha: :haha:

sunset
Jun 24th, 2006, 06:01 PM
Video of some key bits of the match here:- http://www.misakrajicek.nl/beelden/ros06_hf.php


Thank you!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce:

Is the final available too??

Foot's Fingers
Jun 24th, 2006, 07:32 PM
that's the reason why i feel Eastborne is much more attractive for me

Gerben
Jun 24th, 2006, 08:43 PM
http://www.misakrajicek.nl/beelden/ros06_fin.php