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LoveFifteen
Jun 22nd, 2006, 02:51 PM
I am so hot, y'all. I'm gonna take that ref to the nightwater! :fiery:

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Okay, I don't really know all the rules of soccer. Was that a completely valid penalty against the USA? What did the US player do that constitutes a foul?

NyCPsU
Jun 22nd, 2006, 02:53 PM
that in no way should have been a penalty kick
his hands were on the sides
they were both going for a 50-50 ball
some body contact, but that is soccer
absolutely horrid call

and before people start telling me im just being biased because im american, i agreed with most of the calls in the last game

ZeroSOFInfinity
Jun 22nd, 2006, 02:56 PM
I didn't see the incident so I can't comment.

But at this moment, Ghana and Italy will qualify... :sad:

Avid Merrion
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:02 PM
i've just seen it there because i was watching Italy v Czech Rep. and it did look a soft penalty claim.
these things happen in football, the referee only has a split second to make the decision without the benefit of multi-angled tv replays ;) it's shit when a dodgy decision goes against your team, but these things tend to even themselves out. like the USA's goal had a whiff of offside about it if you ask me..... ;)

LoveFifteen
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:07 PM
Oh, y'all, I be so hawt. I gone beat some Colombians! :fiery:












:angel:

NyCPsU
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:07 PM
there was no hand contact, no pulling, no grabbing
hands were completely on the sides!! so if a bump constitutes a penalty there will be penalties on every 50-50 ball.

and the u.s. goal was not offsides, he was completely behind the defenders when beasley sent it foward, they showed the overhead on the replays

NyCPsU
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:08 PM
Oh, y'all, I be so hawt. I gone beat some Colombians! :fiery:


:lol: i still dont know why he picked columbians :confused:

IceHock
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:09 PM
yeah that call was horendous,in this big of a game.i'm sorry but the refs are terrible in this tourney.

M2k
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:10 PM
F.uck! :sobbing: It's horrible!! It's like the referees are out to get us!:eek: :eek:

C'mon USA!!!!!


USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!

samsung101
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:15 PM
Ghana beat the Czech. Rep. rather handily, in soccer terms.
The Czech.'s beat the USA 3-0, very handily, in any terms.

Ghana should beat the USA. They're good. They're also
fun to watch, like the Brazilians.

But, the USA had better put up a better fight than they
are so far. Gutsy isn't cutting it. This is not the best team
they could have put together, sad to say. They didn't play
that well leading up to the World Cup. Anyone who took
that #5 ranking seriously was on something. They aren't
a top 16 team.

Hopefully, they'll get a new coach, who doesn't whine quite
so much, some younger players, and get them out there on
the world scene for 4 years. Get them some international
experience, and get their heads knocked around by some
seasoned teams, and learn something for the next go around.

They play Mexico a lot, and think that's good world cup
preparation. It's not. Mexico isn't that good. Get some
new blood in the USA Soccer organization, they're still
living off 8 years ago.

LoveFifteen
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:23 PM
yeah that call was horendous,in this big of a game.i'm sorry but the refs are terrible in this tourney.

Yeah, it seemed like a terrible call to me, but I only had Americans telling me it was horrendous so I didn't know how much bias was affecting their opinion. I'm glad you agree.

Poor USA. :sad:

Oh well, the way I look at it, even if we do advance, Brazil is going to take us to the nightwater!!! :lol:

KClijsters
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:46 PM
It's 2-1 for Ghana now against the VS

Italy against Czech Republic is 2-0

So, at this moment Italy and Ghana will go to the second round.

MinnyGophers
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:47 PM
Has J-Baby been banned? I wonder where she is. Maybe she took one Lunesta too many :lol:

azdaja
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:48 PM
i did not see this match, but i kinda trust this referee.

M2k
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:55 PM
i did not see this match, but i kinda trust this referee.

...see the replay, if you get to see it, he made a horrible call!:eek:

KClijsters
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:57 PM
Italy won with 2-0 and will go to the second round... Ghana beat the VS with 2-1 and also will go to the second round.... I didn't expect Ghana would reach the second round. but it's great for them :)

LoveFifteen
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:59 PM
...see the replay, if you get to see it, he made a horrible call!:eek:

It was a horrible call, but I guess it would've been a tie without that goal, and the USA still wouldn't have advanced. I love the US and support them, but now my two other teams, Germany & Argentina, are set to meet in the QFs. I wish they could've been on opposite sides of the draw.

Then there's England, which I am :hearts:-ing, but mainly cuz I am a gay whore. HOTTT!!!! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :drool: :drool: :drool:

furrykitten
Jun 22nd, 2006, 04:00 PM
Well done Ghana!!
Czechs bounced out!

IceHock
Jun 22nd, 2006, 04:01 PM
i did not see this match, but i kinda trust this referee.


you won't trust him after you see the call he made,onweyu barely touched the guy.

NyCPsU
Jun 22nd, 2006, 04:02 PM
usa just didnt deserve to win, they have not played with the energy and determination that they should have

they turned it on with 30 mintues to go and got great chances but you cant win a soccer match playing 30 out of 90 minutes.

im kind of glad there out bc watching them is so frustrating, i really dont like their style of play

now its time to root the italians and dutch on hard!!!!

hablo
Jun 22nd, 2006, 04:03 PM
I think Ghana was the better team :hatoff: , but I'm biaised :p:lol:

too bad for the czechs though :hug:

Paneru
Jun 22nd, 2006, 04:03 PM
Ghana deserved their victory!

So proud of them after
upsetting the Czech republic!

The US Team at times looked
like they were afraid of that damn ball!


Oh, and my bro just trippin'
over the speed of Ghana wishing
he had that as well as those handles! :cool:

Paneru
Jun 22nd, 2006, 04:04 PM
I think Ghana was the better team :hatoff: , but I'm biaised :p:lol:

too bad for the czechs though :hug:

They definitely were!

The did everything better and most
of all, they outhustled the US Team!

samsung101
Jun 22nd, 2006, 04:05 PM
The BBC website, up to the minute reports, also seem to
imply the penalty was cheesy. Also, that the Ghana team
(smartly) wasted time, and feigned injury...it's soccer,
what's new with that. Hey, the USA didn't beat the team
that beat up on the first team they lost to...expected tough
loss. At least they didn't fold up like a cheap suit as in
game 1. All in all, in 3 games, they scored 1 goal, and
had one goal scored for them. Not exactly a great performance.
But, 0-1-2 is better than 0-0-3. Again, I think the US
soccer organization needs some new blood. They've been
living off of their performance 8 and 4 years ago, and
that didn't work. Arena, you're out of there.

Ghana is good. Italy is good. Argentina and Germany look
real strong, and Brazil can turn it on at any time it seems.
England, that would be fun to see them really go far into
this. Portugal? Spain?

KClijsters
Jun 22nd, 2006, 04:09 PM
The BBC website, up to the minute reports, also seem to
imply the penalty was cheesy. Also, that the Ghana team
(smartly) wasted time, and feigned injury...it's soccer,
what's new with that. Hey, the USA didn't beat the team
that beat up on the first team they lost to...expected tough
loss. At least they didn't fold up like a cheap suit as in
game 1. All in all, in 3 games, they scored 1 goal, and
had one goal scored for them. Not exactly a great performance.
But, 0-1-2 is better than 0-0-3. Again, I think the US
soccer organization needs some new blood. They've been
living off of their performance 8 and 4 years ago, and
that didn't work. Arena, you're out of there.

Ghana is good. Italy is good. Argentina and Germany look
real strong, and Brazil can turn it on at any time it seems.
England, that would be fun to see them really go far into
this. Portugal? Spain?

I'm really curious how the German team will play against better teams. They played well all the three matches, but it was ofcourse not against good teams. Sweden is a better team. So, we have to wait. But I think that Germany will beat Sweden.

samsung101
Jun 22nd, 2006, 04:29 PM
They were beaten 3-0 by the Czech.'s, and that team
didn't score another goal after that game. Doesn't say
much for the USA defense.


All in all, a very disappointing soccer appearance by the
USA team. No two ways about it. But, it's American Soccer,
most Americans know we stink at this sport. Most Americans
don't even care about the sport. Though, like the Olympics
it's fun to see every 4 years. We care about bobsledding and
skiiing every 4 years, and then forget about it. Ditto for soccer.

Not like it's basketball or baseball or football (our football).

How about getting some new players? Does anyone from
Argentina or Ghana or Brazil want to become a US citizen
and happen to play soccer really, really well? Sign them up!
If you can bend it like Beckham or play like Crespo or Ronaldo,
sign that man up.

I do like that ABC and ESPN and Univision are showing every
single game live over here. That is the first time that's happened,
and the ratings have so far been decent. American tv audiences
are definitely having the chance to see more of the World Cup
live than ever before.

azdaja
Jun 22nd, 2006, 05:07 PM
you won't trust him after you see the call he made,onweyu barely touched the guy.
ok, i saw it, but i tend to agree with the referee. this is still much better than ivory coast being robbed of 2 penalties in their match against holland.

Pureracket
Jun 22nd, 2006, 05:18 PM
No. 10 for Ghana's team could be a model. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LoveFifteen
Jun 22nd, 2006, 05:20 PM
I think one reason the US still sucks at soccer is because no one seems to play the game just for fun. There aren't pick up games of soccer in every neighborhood like there are in Europe and South America. That seems to happen more with basketball in the US.

It's like people only seem to play soccer in the US on YMCA teams, etc. when they are little, and it's all about win, win, win, and they don't get to just mess around and become creative and imaginative like the Brazilians.

I root for the USA, but their play isn't even inspiring. It's almost painful to watch actually because it's so frustrating. I saw the Morocco v USA friendly in Nashville, TN, and it was just painful. It was like the USA just didn't know how to score. The USA lost 0-1.

The Moroccan fans were a lot of fun, beating drums and chanting. It was cool. Largest ever soccer match in Tennessee with 27,000 people. LOL

LoveFifteen
Jun 22nd, 2006, 05:20 PM
No. 10 for Ghana's team could be a model. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Carlos Bocanegra is pretty fiiiiine, too!!!! :hearts: :drool: :kiss:

miffedmax
Jun 22nd, 2006, 05:52 PM
Arena had a pretty good resume going into this WC, what with a run to the quarters (which we had some help with), a Gold Cup (CONCACAAF's continental contest) and first place in qualifying.

But I've been completely mystified by what's he beend ong in Germany. The 4-5-1 packs about as much punch as Dementieva's second serve. It's hard to be creative if your only thought is long balls to McBride.

The US showed it is capable of much better in '02 and the runup to '06. We played ugly, sloppy soccer and were penalized for it.

I said from the start we were in the toughest group and would need a break to advance. This was pretty much the low end of my expectations in terms of results. In '02, we played good soccer, and the S. Koreans helped us out and we advanced.

This year, we played ugly soccer and got sent home early. If we'd played nice soccer and gotten the same results (1 tie, 2 losses) I would be (sort of) willing to say "Oh well, we caught some breaks last time, and didn't this time. It all evens out."

But to play so badly . . . yuck.

Pureracket
Jun 22nd, 2006, 05:55 PM
I think one reason the US still sucks at soccer is because no one seems to play the game just for fun. There aren't pick up games of soccer in every neighborhood like there are in Europe and South America. That seems to happen more with basketball in the US.

It's like people only seem to play soccer in the US on YMCA teams, etc. when they are little, and it's all about win, win, win, and they don't get to just mess around and become creative and imaginative like the Brazilians.

I root for the USA, but their play isn't even inspiring. It's almost painful to watch actually because it's so frustrating. I saw the Morocco v USA friendly in Nashville, TN, and it was just painful. It was like the USA just didn't know how to score. The USA lost 0-1.

The Moroccan fans were a lot of fun, beating drums and chanting. It was cool. Largest ever soccer match in Tennessee with 27,000 people. LOLSad but true.

samsung101
Jun 22nd, 2006, 06:28 PM
Was Freddy Adu too young to play in World Cup?
Why wasn't he on the team. They underachieved,
but, maybe our expectations were way overdone.
Were they really the #5 team in the FIFA rankings?
Clearly not.



Pick up games of soccer in America? There may be
a few neighborhoods with that, but, most, no way.

Pick up video games maybe.
Pick up supersize McDonald's games definitely.


Actually, even baseball is having problems keeping
younger people interested. They want the faster paced
X-game sports, basketball, football, etc. Soccer is never
going to beat the NBA here. But, neither is hockey.

NyCPsU
Jun 22nd, 2006, 06:59 PM
I think one reason the US still sucks at soccer is because no one seems to play the game just for fun. There aren't pick up games of soccer in every neighborhood like there are in Europe and South America. That seems to happen more with basketball in the US.

It's like people only seem to play soccer in the US on YMCA teams, etc. when they are little, and it's all about win, win, win, and they don't get to just mess around and become creative and imaginative like the Brazilians.

I root for the USA, but their play isn't even inspiring. It's almost painful to watch actually because it's so frustrating. I saw the Morocco v USA friendly in Nashville, TN, and it was just painful. It was like the USA just didn't know how to score. The USA lost 0-1.

The Moroccan fans were a lot of fun, beating drums and chanting. It was cool. Largest ever soccer match in Tennessee with 27,000 people. LOL

i agree 110% :)

IceHock
Jun 22nd, 2006, 07:01 PM
J-baby are you here!!?????j-baby!!!!!

LoveFifteen
Jun 22nd, 2006, 07:08 PM
J-baby are you here!!?????j-baby!!!!!

Must have finally had his/her dream come true and been thrown in jail! :lol:

decemberlove
Jun 22nd, 2006, 07:21 PM
I think one reason the US still sucks at soccer is because no one seems to play the game just for fun. There aren't pick up games of soccer in every neighborhood like there are in Europe and South America. That seems to happen more with basketball in the US.

It's like people only seem to play soccer in the US on YMCA teams, etc. when they are little, and it's all about win, win, win, and they don't get to just mess around and become creative and imaginative like the Brazilians.

It has everything to do with MONEY. There are plenty of children & adults who play soccer for fun, just like they do with basketball. The difference is, in America, there is BIG money to be made if you make it into the NBA. That's not the case with soccer. Often, talented young athletes who maybe prefer soccer will be encouraged (pushed) to take on another sport that offers a brighter future.

Average Annual Player Salaries for US
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samsung101
Jun 22nd, 2006, 09:52 PM
Soccer is fun. It's a game a lot of kids play. But, most young
people leave it for other things by the time jr. high and high
school comes around. For x-game type sports of skateboarding,
bikes (power and pedal), surfing, etc., and yes, the traditional
sports of baseball, basketball, football, softball, volleyball,
track, in schools. Sorry, it just isn't as popular later on. In
some parts of the nation, it's huge. It's improved a lot over
the years. But, it's not going to be big here,not in 10 years, not
in 20. Abroad it's a 'national' thing. We don't go after it
as a national thing. We don't live and die if the USA soccer
team wins or loses. We dont even do that when the Olympic
basketball team wins or loses. We get mad if we lose, but, that
fades fast, and it's not a national feeling of loss. We don't stop
all we do to watch it. Schools don't close down for it. We don't
gather in Times Square to watch a 'national' game.

The Super Bowl is a party -do we really care what team is
in it? Not really.

But, it has a big following among clubs - private and public.
It's not hard to find a good club for a teenage to join, to travel
around the area or nation to play in competitons. There is big
money in that. Nike and Adidas and Puma sponsor lots of
girl and boy teams and tournaments.

Most talented athletes in college don't go pro, and don't make
the big money. That's a rare field to get into for any talented
athlete in any sport. Who knew NASCAR guys made so much
money doing something most Americans don't watch or know
much about. But, they do.

That's why a guy like Freddy Adu is so necesary. Why a Cobi
Jones is needed in LA. Why they had to bring Chivas to So. Cal.
for the fan draw. Even that hasn't been that successful in Los
Angeles. Which has been a surprise. Soccer needs a few 'names'
to pop up, and for fans to follow. If that's Adu, great. If not,
they'll have to keep working to find a Tiger Woods or Michael
or new Mia Hamm for the sport of soccer in Amerca.

One sure didn't come out of the World Cup this year.

But, American kids by and large like the traditional basketball,
baseball, football sports - with baseball losing ground as well.
Hockey is big in areas. Who knew X-game type sports would
be so popular, but, they are. Sure, the NBA is a huge draw
for kids to go after. So few get there though, in any sport.

miffedmax
Jun 22nd, 2006, 10:22 PM
I think more good American athletes are sticking with soccer now than did in previous years.

When I was a kid playing soccer, most of my teammates were guys who couldn't have made the football or basketball team (certainly the case for me). My high school team had the third highest GPA of any organization at school, behind the orchestra and the band. (Not that athletes can't be smart, or smart kids can't be athletic, but overall it does say a little about who was playing soccer in those days).

Now I have two kids playing soccer (both club and in pick-up games, believe it or not). The older one dropped baseball for soccer and more than half of the kids on his team (14-year-olds) have picked soccer over other sports for high school. The younger one hasn't even tried any sports he loves soccer so much, but is easily one of the biggest, fastest kids in his class.

So I do think the US will continue to get better at soccer. I think the MLS will be a viable 5th major sport, not as big as football, basketball and baseball, but big enough to be viable and more popular in the future.

Really, the NFL has become such the 800 lb. gorilla of the American sports scene that all other sports take a back seat to it. The US has a huge population--even if we assume about 5% of the population becomes fans (not unreasonable, given the rapid growth of the Hispanic population and the fact that America's "second generation" of soccer players born in the late '70s and '80s will soon be getting married and having more little soccer players) we'll be able to draw on a larger pool of athletes than many of the countries playing in this year's Cup, from T&T (pop 1 million) up to traditional powers like Holland and the Czech Republic.

We're a regional power now, and a generation from being a consistent second tier world power Maybe even a first tier one.

Now, if we could just find some decent jr. tennis players . . .

fnuf7
Jun 22nd, 2006, 11:11 PM
The ref from this match is awful in my opinion, can't remember what the other match I saw that he did but he was terrible in that one too, getting all sorts of calls wrong. :fiery:

It was a v soft penalty to concede really but then if it had been anywhere else except the World Cup eg: just a friendly match etc then doubt it would be given but at the World Cup the refs are being ultra harsh and sticking to the very letter of the law, the merest hint of contact can result in free kicks, penalties, bookings etc...sad to see the USA go cos they are quite entertaining but I do have a soft spot for the Ghanians since watching them beat the Czech's quite convincingly :D I'm just happy Italy got through :bounce: :cool:

Nabalonge
Jun 22nd, 2006, 11:51 PM
:clap2: for Ghana and for Africa :bigclap:

samsung101
Jun 23rd, 2006, 04:43 PM
AP writer Jim Litke says Americans lost because we
still don't grasp how to play like the rest of the world.
Bad call, roll around on the ground, milk a call, etc.,
so what, that's soccer, the USA organization knows it,
and still doesn't get with the program. Don't whine
about it, get over it, learn it.


He's right. We know players in soccer know how to
get a foul by feigning a big foul, where there was none.
That's part of the game. So what?

USA lost, and no one is really losing any sleep over it.
Not front page news, not even back page news. It's
a story, but, the NHL Stanley Cup or the return of
Roger Clemons or Shaq & Dwayne are bigger news.

Invade the top soccer college programs, the top high
school programs, and throw in a lot of foreign influence.
Offer some passports to poor kids from Brazil for America,
you might get a few takers. Just a suggestion Coach
Arena.


Nike and others pour millions into USA Soccer. What
was the result? A timid team. A team w/o a big star
or two that broke out and showed some style. In fact,
it seems the team was taught not to have any style,
any flair, any gusto to just throw themselves at shots.
A coach that coached prevent defense style soccer.

Money was not a problem. TV coverage was not a problem.
Timidity and lack of a star or two were the problems.

Get a foreign coach with World Cup experience, why not,
most other nations do. Get a slew of young high school
and college players touring Latin America and Europe
to play their top teams. For long periods of time. Practice
overseas. Suck up all the European and Latin flavor in
soccer you can.

I think the USA played Mexico and thought, hey, we can
hang w/these guys. They're good, we beat them, so we're
good. Well, bad news, Mexico isn't that good, and you
only beat them sometimes. Go to Argentina, to Brazil,
to Spain, to Italy, and play their teams regularly. Train
with them. Bring them over here. I don't care if they
beat you 5 times in a row. The players will get more out
of that then they will playing Mexico or Chivas over & over.

Want to play like the Brazilian or Argentinians or the
Italians, go live and play with them a lot more before
2010.

ico4498
Jun 23rd, 2006, 06:01 PM
its funny watching some Americans struggle with the colossus that is football. with each succeeding World Cup they watch in larger numbers then console themselves with "bastardized rugy, baseball and basketball are our focus."

yet, like 'ole man river, football just keeps rollin' along. pretty soon even those deluded souls will know ... "resistance is futile, you will be assimilated".

samsung101
Jun 23rd, 2006, 06:09 PM
It's just not that big here. Never will be. We'll watch
it. Cheer a little. Go, too bad the US team lost. Should
have done better. Weren't they supposed to do better?
Oh too bad. Wake me up in 4 years for the next one.

Turn the channel, baseball is on.
The Miami victory parade is on.
NASCAR's on.

It's just not a 'national' sport here. We don't live and
die w/it. Miami won the NBA title, and that was big
news, but, even that wasn't that big here.

Personally, I like Ghana's chances. They're fun to watch.
Like Brazil is. They play the game and make it look like
dancing. Love that.

oakkao
Jun 23rd, 2006, 06:28 PM
:retard: :confused: :shrug:

ico4498
Jun 23rd, 2006, 06:42 PM
It's just not that big here. Never will be. We'll watch
it. Cheer a little. Go, too bad the US team lost. Should
have done better. Weren't they supposed to do better?
Oh too bad. Wake me up in 4 years for the next one.

Turn the channel, baseball is on.
The Miami victory parade is on.
NASCAR's on.

It's just not a 'national' sport here. We don't live and
die w/it. Miami won the NBA title, and that was big
news, but, even that wasn't that big here.

Personally, I like Ghana's chances. They're fun to watch.
Like Brazil is. They play the game and make it look like
dancing. Love that.

whatevah consoles yah ...

"ole man river ... "

bis2806
Jun 23rd, 2006, 06:57 PM
Where is this retarded refree from?

LoveFifteen
Jun 23rd, 2006, 08:08 PM
Personally I'm glad that US players don't fling themselves to the ground and writhe with fake pain every 3 minutes like some teams seem to do. I'd rather see us suck at soccer for eternity than start pulling that annoying as shit.

It's like watching a team full of Coria's & Henin-Hardenne's.