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Junex
Jun 19th, 2006, 03:43 AM
Spencercarlos post in this thread got me into thinking:

http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=243251&page=1&pp=40


So who among the "one-slam wonders" (retired players who no-longer has a chance to enter a GS draw unless the went back from retirement... :devil: )does & don't fit the tag?
Who is great among them and who is the flukiest?


I only know a handful of them on my mind right now...

Gaby
Conchita
Jana
Iva

i know there are still many....

please reply... ( i have a very nice justine avatar ;) and i need some v-cash to )

MH0861
Jun 19th, 2006, 03:46 AM
A list of all the one slam wonders?

Of the top of my head to add to your list..

Clijsters
Mauresmo
Sharapova
Kuznetsova
Myskina

stevos
Jun 19th, 2006, 03:46 AM
Dont forget Kim! ;)

SM
Jun 19th, 2006, 03:57 AM
i wouldn't call anyone a "one slam wonder" until after they've retired.

many of the players on that list such as Kim or Mauresmo are capable of winning more slams to come.

Junex
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:01 AM
i wouldn't call anyone a "one slam wonder" until after they've retired.

many of the players on that list such as Kim or Mauresmo are capable of winning more slams to come.


this is what actually i have in mind when i created this thread..

thank you!

now off to edit my first post.

cartmancop
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:15 AM
for me Sabatini is probably the best...she had the misfortune of playing against the best ever her whole career & still did pretty well for herself. I'd rank Martinez @ #2
#3 Novotna & #4 Majoli.. of those mentioned. my mind is blank when it comes to thinking of more...

Junex
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:35 AM
Point of references:

Jana Novotna:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jana_Novotn%C3%A1


Grand Slam singles finals
[edit]
Wins (1)
Year Championship Opponent in Final Score in Final
1998 Wimbledon Nathalie Tauziat 6-4, 7-6
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Runner-ups (3)
Year Championship Opponent in Final Score in Final
1991 Australian Open Monica Seles 5-7, 6-3, 6-1
1993 Wimbledon Steffi Graf 7-6, 1-6, 6-4
1997 Wimbledon Martina Hingis 2-6, 6-3, 6-3



[edit]
Singles titles (24) & Doubles titles (76)
1987
[Doubles] : Hamburg (w/Kohde-Kilsch), Strasbourg (w/Suire), San Diego (w/Suire)
1988
[Singles] : Adelaide
[Doubles] : Oklahoma City (w/Suire), Rome (w/Suire), Hamburg (w/Scheuer-Larsen), Canadian Open (w/Suková), Mahwah (w/Suková)
1989
[Singles] : Strasbourg
[Doubles] : Wimbledon (w/Suková), Miami (w/Sukova), Boca Raton (w/Suková), Brisbane (w/Suková), Barcelona (w/Scheuer-Larsen), European Indoors (w/Sukova)
1990
[Singles] : Albuquerque
[Doubles] : Australian Open (w/Suková), French Open (w/Suková), Wimbledon (w/Suková), Miami (w/Suková), Brisbane (w/Suková), Sydney (w/Suková), Indian Wells (w/Suková), Boca Raton (w/Suková), Los Angeles (w/G. Fernandez)
1991
[Singles] : Sydney, Oklahoma City
[Doubles] : French Open (w/G. Fernandez), Brisbane (w/G. Fernandez), Chicago (w/G. Fernandez), Hamburg (w/Neiland), Washington, DC (w/Neiland), European Indoors (w/A. Strnadová),Filderstadt (w/Navrátilová), Philadelphia (w/Neiland)
1992
[Doubles] : Brisbane (w/Neiland), Light ‘n Lively (w/Neiland), Berlin (w/Neiland), Eastbourne (w/Neiland), San Diego (w/Neiland), Leipzig (w/Neiland), Brighton (w/Neiland)
1993
[Singles] : Osaka, Brighton
[Doubles] : Miami (w/Neiland), Osaka (w/Neiland), Paris Indoors (w/A. Strnadova), Rome (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Canadian Open (w/Neiland)
1994
[Singles] : Leipzig, Brighton, Essen
[Doubles] : US Open (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Delray Beach (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Light ’n Lively Doubles (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Hamburg (w/Sanchez-Vicario), San Diego (w/Sanchez-Vicario)
1995
[Singles] : Linz
[Doubles] : Australian Open (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Wimbledon (w/Sanchez-Vicario), WTA Tour Championships (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Sydney (w/Davenport), Miami (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Delray Beach (w/MJ Fernandez), Eastbourne (w/Sanchez-Vicario)
1996
[Singles] : Madrid, Zurich, Chicago, Philadelphia
[Doubles] : Paris Indoors (w/Boogert), Miami (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Hilton Head (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Madrid (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Eastbourne (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Filderstadt (w/Arendt)
1997
[Singles] : WTA Tour Championships, Madrid, Leipzig, Moscow
[Doubles] : US Open (w/Davenport), Season-Ending Championships (w/Davenport), Paris Indoors (w/Hingis), Amelia Island (w/Davenport), Berlin (w/Davenport), Leipzig (w/Hingis)
1998
[Singles] : Wimbledon, Linz, Eastbourne, Prague;
[Doubles] : French Open (w/Hingis), Wimbledon (w/Hingis), US Open (w/Hingis), Miami (w/Hingis), Eastbourne (w/de Swardt), Canadian Open (w/Hingis)
1999
[Singles] : Hannover
[Doubles] : Miami (w/Hingis), Hilton Head (w/Likhovtseva), Canadian Open (w/Pierce)



Gabriela Sabatini:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriela_Sabatini


Grand Slams
Tournament 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 Career
Australian Open - - - - - SF 3r QF SF SF SF 1r 4r 0
French Open - SF 4r SF SF 4r 4r SF SF QF 1r QF - 0
Wimbledon - 3r SF QF 4r 2r SF F SF QF 4r QF - 0
US Open 3r 1r 4r QF F SF W QF QF QF SF SF 3r 1
[edit]
Singles Titles (27)
1985
Tokyo [Japan Open]
1986
Argentine Open
1987
Brighton, Pan Pacific, Argentine Open
1988
WTA Tour Championships, Boca Raton, Rome, Canadian Open
1989
Miami, Amelia Island, Rome, Filderstadt
1990
US Open, Boca Raton
1991
Pan Pacific, Boca Raton, Hilton Head, Amelia Island, Rome
1992
Sydney, Pan Pacific, Hilton Head, Amelia Island, Rome
1994
WTA Tour Championships
1995
Sydney


Conchita Martinez:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchita_Martinez


Grand Slam finals
[edit]
Wins (1)
Year Championship Opponent in Final Score in Final
1994 Wimbledon Martina Navratilova 6-4, 3-6, 6-3
[edit]
Runners-up (2)
Year Championship Opponent in Final Score in Final
1998 Australian Open Martina Hingis 6-3, 6-3
2000 French Open Mary Pierce 6-2, 7-5
[edit]
Singles titles
2005 - Pattaya
2000 - German Open
1999 - Polish Open
1998 - German Open, Warsaw
1996 - Italian Open, Moscow
1995 - Hilton Head, Amelia Island, Hamburg, Italian Open, San Diego, Los Angeles
1994 - Wimbledon, Hilton Head, Italian Open, US Hardcourts
1993 - Brisbane, Houston, Italian Open, US Hardcourts, Philadelphia
1992 - Austrian Open
1991 - Barcelona, Austrian Open, Paris Indoor
1990 - Paris Indoor, Scottsdale, Indianapolis
1989 - Phoenix, Wellington, Tampa
1988 - Sofia, Futures/Rocafort-ESP, Futures/Castellon-ESP, Futures/Reggio Emilia-ITA


Iva Majoli
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iva_Majoli

Titles (10)
Legend (Singles)
Grand Slam (1)
WTA Championships (0)
Tier I Event (3)
WTA Tour (4)
[edit]
Singles (8)
No. Date Tournament Surface Opponents in the final Score
1. October 8, 1995 Zurich, Switzerland Carpet Mary Pierce (France) 6-4 6-4
2. October 15, 1995 Filderstadt, Germany Hard Gabriela Sabatini (Argentina) 6-4 7-6
3. February 14, 1996 Tokyo, Japan (Pan Pacific) Carpet Arantxa Sanchez Vicario (Spain) 6-4 6-1
4. February 25, 1996 Essen, Germany Carpet Jana Novotná (Czech Republic) 7-5 1-6 7-6
5. February 23, 1997 Hannover, Germany Carpet Jana Novotná (Czech Republic) 4-6 7-6 6-4
6. May 4, 1997 Hamburg, Germany Clay Ruxandra Dragomir (Romania) 6-3 6-2
7. June 7, 1997 French Open, France Clay Martina Hingis (Switzerland) 6-4 6-2
8. April 21, 2002 Charleston, USA Clay Patty Schnyder (Switzerland) 7-6 6-4

spencercarlos
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:40 AM
Point of references:

Jana Novotna:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jana_Novotn%C3%A1


Grand Slam singles finals
[edit]
Wins (1)
Year Championship Opponent in Final Score in Final
1998 Wimbledon Nathalie Tauziat 6-4, 7-6
[edit]
Runner-ups (3)
Year Championship Opponent in Final Score in Final
1991 Australian Open Monica Seles 5-7, 6-3, 6-1
1993 Wimbledon Steffi Graf 7-6, 1-6, 6-4
1997 Wimbledon Martina Hingis 2-6, 6-3, 6-3



[edit]
Singles titles (24) & Doubles titles (76)
1987
[Doubles] : Hamburg (w/Kohde-Kilsch), Strasbourg (w/Suire), San Diego (w/Suire)
1988
[Singles] : Adelaide
[Doubles] : Oklahoma City (w/Suire), Rome (w/Suire), Hamburg (w/Scheuer-Larsen), Canadian Open (w/Suková), Mahwah (w/Suková)
1989
[Singles] : Strasbourg
[Doubles] : Wimbledon (w/Suková), Miami (w/Sukova), Boca Raton (w/Suková), Brisbane (w/Suková), Barcelona (w/Scheuer-Larsen), European Indoors (w/Sukova)
1990
[Singles] : Albuquerque
[Doubles] : Australian Open (w/Suková), French Open (w/Suková), Wimbledon (w/Suková), Miami (w/Suková), Brisbane (w/Suková), Sydney (w/Suková), Indian Wells (w/Suková), Boca Raton (w/Suková), Los Angeles (w/G. Fernandez)
1991
[Singles] : Sydney, Oklahoma City
[Doubles] : French Open (w/G. Fernandez), Brisbane (w/G. Fernandez), Chicago (w/G. Fernandez), Hamburg (w/Neiland), Washington, DC (w/Neiland), European Indoors (w/A. Strnadová),Filderstadt (w/Navrátilová), Philadelphia (w/Neiland)
1992
[Doubles] : Brisbane (w/Neiland), Light ‘n Lively (w/Neiland), Berlin (w/Neiland), Eastbourne (w/Neiland), San Diego (w/Neiland), Leipzig (w/Neiland), Brighton (w/Neiland)
1993
[Singles] : Osaka, Brighton
[Doubles] : Miami (w/Neiland), Osaka (w/Neiland), Paris Indoors (w/A. Strnadova), Rome (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Canadian Open (w/Neiland)
1994
[Singles] : Leipzig, Brighton, Essen
[Doubles] : US Open (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Delray Beach (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Light ’n Lively Doubles (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Hamburg (w/Sanchez-Vicario), San Diego (w/Sanchez-Vicario)
1995
[Singles] : Linz
[Doubles] : Australian Open (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Wimbledon (w/Sanchez-Vicario), WTA Tour Championships (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Sydney (w/Davenport), Miami (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Delray Beach (w/MJ Fernandez), Eastbourne (w/Sanchez-Vicario)
1996
[Singles] : Madrid, Zurich, Chicago, Philadelphia
[Doubles] : Paris Indoors (w/Boogert), Miami (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Hilton Head (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Madrid (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Eastbourne (w/Sanchez-Vicario), Filderstadt (w/Arendt)
1997
[Singles] : WTA Tour Championships, Madrid, Leipzig, Moscow
[Doubles] : US Open (w/Davenport), Season-Ending Championships (w/Davenport), Paris Indoors (w/Hingis), Amelia Island (w/Davenport), Berlin (w/Davenport), Leipzig (w/Hingis)
1998
[Singles] : Wimbledon, Linz, Eastbourne, Prague;
[Doubles] : French Open (w/Hingis), Wimbledon (w/Hingis), US Open (w/Hingis), Miami (w/Hingis), Eastbourne (w/de Swardt), Canadian Open (w/Hingis)
1999
[Singles] : Hannover
[Doubles] : Miami (w/Hingis), Hilton Head (w/Likhovtseva), Canadian Open (w/Pierce)



Gabriela Sabatini:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriela_Sabatini


Grand Slams
Tournament 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 Career
Australian Open - - - - - SF 3r QF SF SF SF 1r 4r 0
French Open - SF 4r SF SF 4r 4r SF SF QF 1r QF - 0
Wimbledon - 3r SF QF 4r 2r SF F SF QF 4r QF - 0
US Open 3r 1r 4r QF F SF W QF QF QF SF SF 3r 1
[edit]
Singles Titles (27)
1985
Tokyo [Japan Open]
1986
Argentine Open
1987
Brighton, Pan Pacific, Argentine Open
1988
WTA Tour Championships, Boca Raton, Rome, Canadian Open
1989
Miami, Amelia Island, Rome, Filderstadt
1990
US Open, Boca Raton
1991
Pan Pacific, Boca Raton, Hilton Head, Amelia Island, Rome
1992
Sydney, Pan Pacific, Hilton Head, Amelia Island, Rome
1994
WTA Tour Championships
1995
Sydney


Conchita Martinez:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchita_Martinez


Grand Slam finals
[edit]
Wins (1)
Year Championship Opponent in Final Score in Final
1994 Wimbledon Martina Navratilova 6-4, 3-6, 6-3
[edit]
Runners-up (2)
Year Championship Opponent in Final Score in Final
1998 Australian Open Martina Hingis 6-3, 6-3
2000 French Open Mary Pierce 6-2, 7-5
[edit]
Singles titles
2005 - Pattaya
2000 - German Open
1999 - Polish Open
1998 - German Open, Warsaw
1996 - Italian Open, Moscow
1995 - Hilton Head, Amelia Island, Hamburg, Italian Open, San Diego, Los Angeles
1994 - Wimbledon, Hilton Head, Italian Open, US Hardcourts
1993 - Brisbane, Houston, Italian Open, US Hardcourts, Philadelphia
1992 - Austrian Open
1991 - Barcelona, Austrian Open, Paris Indoor
1990 - Paris Indoor, Scottsdale, Indianapolis
1989 - Phoenix, Wellington, Tampa
1988 - Sofia, Futures/Rocafort-ESP, Futures/Castellon-ESP, Futures/Reggio Emilia-ITA


Iva Majoli
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iva_Majoli

Titles (10)
Legend (Singles)
Grand Slam (1)
WTA Championships (0)
Tier I Event (3)
WTA Tour (4)
[edit]
Singles (8)
No. Date Tournament Surface Opponents in the final Score
1. October 8, 1995 Zurich, Switzerland Carpet Mary Pierce (France) 6-4 6-4
2. October 15, 1995 Filderstadt, Germany Hard Gabriela Sabatini (Argentina) 6-4 7-6
3. February 14, 1996 Tokyo, Japan (Pan Pacific) Carpet Arantxa Sanchez Vicario (Spain) 6-4 6-1
4. February 25, 1996 Essen, Germany Carpet Jana Novotná (Czech Republic) 7-5 1-6 7-6
5. February 23, 1997 Hannover, Germany Carpet Jana Novotná (Czech Republic) 4-6 7-6 6-4
6. May 4, 1997 Hamburg, Germany Clay Ruxandra Dragomir (Romania) 6-3 6-2
7. June 7, 1997 French Open, France Clay Martina Hingis (Switzerland) 6-4 6-2
8. April 21, 2002 Charleston, USA Clay Patty Schnyder (Switzerland) 7-6 6-4
My signature can help somehow :p

Junex
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:43 AM
Head to Head


Sabatini - Novotna --- 10-3
Sabatini - Martinez --- 9-6
Sabatini - majoli --- 1-2


Novotna - Martinez --- 4-1
Novotna - Majoli --- 8-3

Martinez - Majoli --- 5-4

Junex
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:46 AM
My signature can help somehow :p


Yes, actually it inspires me (aside from that i need more v-cash).... :p

Wannabeknowitall
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:57 AM
I'm probably going to have to go with Conchita. She beat one of the greatest player of all time on grass. She won titles in three decades and her Fed Cup/Olympic achievements are pretty amazing.

LucasArg
Jun 19th, 2006, 05:09 AM
Gaby #1 :hearts:

spencercarlos
Jun 19th, 2006, 05:19 AM
I'm probably going to have to go with Conchita. She beat one of the greatest player of all time on grass. She won titles in three decades and her Fed Cup/Olympic achievements are pretty amazing.
hmm
No doubt Martina´s greatness, but certainly Martina was beaten by Conchita on that Wimbledon final, her last year on tour, hardly near her peak.

Gaby for example beat Graf (who has a better singles carreer than Navratilova) (11 times) and Seles (3 times) when they were closer to their respective peaks, and not only that, she has beaten them quite a lot more times than Martinez did (Graf 1, Seles 1, Naravtilova 4).

The decades titles, well that´s not sucha huge thing, Martinez did it, Graf did not, that´s certainly not an indication of greatness, just longevity.

The Fed Cup/Olympic´s achievements, those are TEAM competition between countries, in fact Martinez medals at Olympics ARE NOT IN SINGLES either, Gaby got a silver in Olympic singles though. Plus its not Gaby´s fault that she did not have an Arantxa or a Ruano to help her to get this titles.
Plus on a non-restrictive team competition like doubles, Gaby owns a grand slam title (Wimbledon 1988) with Graf, Conchita does not have one.

thelittlestelf
Jun 19th, 2006, 05:29 AM
1) Novotna
2) Sabantini
3) Martinez





4) Majoli

DemWilliamsGulls
Jun 19th, 2006, 05:48 AM
Interesting Topic
1. Sharapova
2. Clijsters
3. Mauresmo
4. Mary Piece
5. Kuetznesova
6. Myskina

Pheobo
Jun 19th, 2006, 06:03 AM
I actually think that Iva was the most talented of all four of them, but the had her mind off in other places, so according to results:

1.) Martinez
2.) Novotna
3.) Sabatini
4.) Majoli

venus_rulez
Jun 19th, 2006, 06:33 AM
Interesting Topic
1. Sharapova
2. Clijsters
3. Mauresmo
4. Mary Piece
5. Kuetznesova
6. Myskina


Just out of curiosity what would be your reasoning for ranking Sharapova above Clijsters and Mauresmo, but particularly Clijsters?

SAEKeithSerena
Jun 19th, 2006, 06:34 AM
Interesting Topic
1. Sharapova
2. Clijsters
3. Mauresmo
4. Mary Piece
5. Kuetznesova
6. Myskina


mary pierce has 2 slams...:confused:

venus_rulez
Jun 19th, 2006, 06:37 AM
By the way I think my pick for the best of this group would go to Sabatini. As someone mentioned she played against two amazing players at their peak in Seles and Graf, plus with the other three it almost feels like the planets happened to align for them. Novotna got a break by playing Tauziat in a slam final, Majoli played the match of her life plus a possibly injured Hingis, and Conchita played out of her mind to beat someone who completely dominated Wimbledon, not to mention Conchita never really proved to be a threat on grass.

E. Blackadder
Jun 19th, 2006, 06:42 AM
Interesting Topic
1. Sharapova
2. Clijsters
3. Mauresmo
4. Mary Piece
5. Kuetznesova
6. Myskina


Now this is total bullshit. Clijsters beats Sharapova in every department. Any objective person has to admit that

Clijsters - Sharapova
H2H 4-0
Additional Grand Slam Finals 4-0
Singles Titles 31 - 11
Doubles Titles 11 - 3
Career Win/loss: 80,5% - 79,4%
Prize Money: $13,533,000 - $5,698,000

ZeroSOFInfinity
Jun 19th, 2006, 07:50 AM
How can you rank the One Slam Wonders differently from each other. They all have one Slam, so therefore they are equal in greatness and better than the ones who don't have a Slam after all.

tommyk75
Jun 19th, 2006, 07:58 AM
Sabatini, then Martinez, then Novotna. The top 3 seems quite clear...

venus_rulez
Jun 19th, 2006, 08:30 AM
mary pierce has 2 slams...:confused:


Yeah 1995 Australian and the 2000 French Open

:inlove:
Jun 19th, 2006, 08:36 AM
I'd say:

1. Sabatini
2. Novotna
3. Martinez
4. Majoli

;)

Hardiansf
Jun 19th, 2006, 08:56 AM
This is mine (including active players):

1. Gabriela Sabatini
2. Kerry Melville
3. Conchita Martinez
4. Kim Clijsters
5. Jana Novotna
6. Mima Jausovec
7. Francoise Durr
8. Sue Barker
9. Virginia Ruzici
10. Maria Sharapova
11. Svetlana Kuznetsova
12. Iva Majoli / Anastasia Myskina / Chris O'Neil / Barbara Jordan

Junex
Jun 19th, 2006, 09:29 AM
This is mine (including active players):

1. Gabriela Sabatini
2. Kerry Melville
3. Conchita Martinez
4. Kim Clijsters
5. Jana Novotna
6. Mima Jausovec
7. Francoise Durr
8. Sue Barker
9. Virginia Ruzici
10. Maria Sharapova
11. Svetlana Kuznetsova
12. Iva Majoli / Anastasia Myskina / Chris O'Neil / Barbara Jordan


Thanks for adding soem additional "one-slam wonders" but i would not really categorized those active players as included in the group since there are still possibilities they may achieve more.


Now of all the retired "one Slam Wonders"


1.Gabriela Sabatini
2. Kerry Melville
3. Conchita Martinez
4. Jana Novotna
5. Mima Jausovec
6. Francoise Durr
7. Sue Barker
8. Virginia Ruzici
9. Iva Majoli /Chris O'Neil / Barbara Jordan

I've tried searching for Kerry's achievements...i found nothing so far so anyone???

propi
Jun 19th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Conchita, Novotna, Gaby and Iva, but I would never call them one slam wonder

FrenchY52
Jun 19th, 2006, 10:38 AM
1 - Amélie Mauresmo
..
..

Greenout
Jun 19th, 2006, 11:03 AM
Why is it that female tennis players are more prone to ridicule than male tennis players if they only won 1 grand slam in their careers? I don't see Albert Costa or Goran get the same poop thrown at them? Look at Andy Roddick or JCF? People still give them tons of respect.


Personally - I dislike this one slam wonder diss tag. A grand slam is great, I dont' see the point in smirking about one or only two.

And I think whatever this thread's theme can be based only on players that have retired. It's highly insulting and premature to say that anyone else on tour won't get more slams.

Let's respect the players more here, and their fans. It's really a sad state here at GM when even grand slam winners are thrashed.

phoebec3p
Jun 19th, 2006, 11:28 AM
how can anyone call kim a one slam wonder?! :confused: she obviously has everything it takes to win another slam... i mean she has a positive record over most of the top players today.. i trully believe that she's about to win more slams.. u just wait and see... :D

Timariot
Jun 19th, 2006, 11:54 AM
Why is it that female tennis players are more prone to ridicule than male tennis players if they only won 1 grand slam in their careers? I don't see Albert Costa or Goran get the same poop thrown at them?

Huh? I sure as heck have seen Johansson and Costa being treated as jokes. Goran at least won over 20 titles, on all surfaces and reached #2.

Timariot
Jun 19th, 2006, 11:57 AM
How can you rank the One Slam Wonders differently from each other. They all have one Slam, so therefore they are equal in greatness and better than the ones who don't have a Slam after all.

That's daft. Surely, Sabatini has greater legacy than say, Majoli who won little else beyond her one Slam and didn't achieve particularly high ranking. In fact, I rate Majoli well below some players who never won a Slam - such as Shriver.

Sam L
Jun 19th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Dont forget Kim! ;)
:haha:

Kenny
Jun 19th, 2006, 02:57 PM
Now this is total bullshit. Clijsters beats Sharapova in every department. Any objective person has to admit that

Clijsters - Sharapova
H2H 4-0
Additional Grand Slam Finals 4-0
Singles Titles 31 - 11
Doubles Titles 11 - 3
Career Win/loss: 80,5% - 79,4%
Prize Money: $13,533,000 - $5,698,000
AMEN! :tape::tape::tape:

Greenout
Jun 19th, 2006, 03:04 PM
Huh? I sure as heck have seen Johansson and Costa being treated as jokes. Goran at least won over 20 titles, on all surfaces and reached #2.

TV commentators rarely diss Costa and Johansson.

Goran? But his career can't stand up to Serena or Venus!

MH0861
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:08 PM
:lol: Why do people call players that are still playing one slam wonders? :confused:

Well, I personally would call anyone who has only won one slam a "one slam wonder" until the day they win another one.

madame_maria
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:15 PM
How can you rank the One Slam Wonders differently from each other. They all have one Slam, so therefore they are equal in greatness and better than the ones who don't have a Slam after all.

AGREED totally. people just can't see that.

MH0861
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:22 PM
AGREED totally. people just can't see that.

Well I think all their other results and achievements serve as a tiebreaker to distinguish between all these players with 1 slam. Surely someone with 30 other titles and 15 weeks at #1 has had a "greater" career than someone with 5 other titles and a career high peak ranking of #3?

Hingiswinsthis
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:37 PM
1.Sabatini
2.Novotna
3.Martinez
4.Majoli (she should be sending Hingis's horse flowers for the rest of her life).

Junex
Jun 20th, 2006, 04:57 AM
Well I think all their other results and achievements serve as a tiebreaker to distinguish between all these players with 1 slam. Surely someone with 30 other titles and 15 weeks at #1 has had a "greater" career than someone with 5 other titles and a career high peak ranking of #3?


AGREED, people just can't see that. :cool:


saying that....active players are not one slam wonders, there is still a ton of oppurtunity for them to win another as long as they include themselves in the draw. They won it before the only thing that would put an end to the possibility of them winning again is if they retire...

So for Kim-fans, she only has 2 (3) chances to save herself from being in the circle of "one-slam wonders"

thelittlestelf
Jun 20th, 2006, 05:11 AM
AGREED totally. people just can't see that.WTF? As prestigious as it is to win any slam, it is still just one title. There are many other aspects of a players career that can't be overlooked.

sfselesfan
Jun 20th, 2006, 05:13 AM
More for the list (open era):

Christine Truman - French Open (1959) - GBR
Karen Susman - Wimbledon (1962) - USA
Francoise Durr - French Open (1967) - FRA
Sue Baker - French Open (1976) - GBR
Kerry Reid - Aussie Open (1977) - AUS
Mima Jausovec - French Open (1977) - SLO
Chris O'Neil - Aussie Open (1978) - AUS
Virginia Ruzici - French Open (1978) - ROM
Barbara Jordan - Aussie Open (1979) - CZE

For me, the only one of any real lasting significance is Francois Durr.

SF

bello
Jun 20th, 2006, 05:37 AM
1. Gaby

2. Conchita

3. Jana

4. Iva


Let's also remember Gaby retired at age 26!!!! And was able to do everything that she did befoire this age! She also showed obvious super talent from a young age.

missvarsha
Jun 20th, 2006, 05:37 AM
Christine Truman - French Open (1959) - GBR
Karen Susman - Wimbledon (1962) - USA
Francoise Durr - French Open (1967) - FRA

The open era started with the French in '68. These three belong to the amateur era.

alfonsojose
Jun 20th, 2006, 05:45 AM
Cheetah 'coz of her longer career

Robbie.
Jun 20th, 2006, 06:49 AM
How can you rank the One Slam Wonders differently from each other. They all have one Slam, so therefore they are equal in greatness and better than the ones who don't have a Slam after all.

I'm sorry, but this is embarrassingly simplistic.

Robbie.
Jun 20th, 2006, 06:51 AM
That's daft. Surely, Sabatini has greater legacy than say, Majoli who won little else beyond her one Slam and didn't achieve particularly high ranking. In fact, I rate Majoli well below some players who never won a Slam - such as Shriver.

Of course you do. That is the sane thing to do.

Zauber
Jun 20th, 2006, 07:15 AM
Iva Majoli fits the catogory of a one slam wonder.
However
Jana Novotna and Gabriela Sabatina were great players who were at the very top of women's tennis for a long time.(they came close many other times)
The one most similar to those two is Kim Clijsters

Conchita Martinez was competitive mainly on clay.
Her win on grass was a fluke. Just like Iva majoli's one slam.
A lot of flukey things happened for Iva and Conchita to win.
However to their great credit they came through and took advantage of it.