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saint
Jun 18th, 2006, 03:30 AM
Although I believe Ame won the YEC and AO fair and square beacuse of her performance at RG there will always be those who doubt her and question her right to be no 1. In my view she will have to beat either Clijsters or JHH in a GS final, without any of them being injured or sick before, finally and deservedly, she gets to ditch the choke label.

slydevil6142
Jun 18th, 2006, 03:34 AM
She needs to beat the players that own her when it actually matters..... If Kim didnt hurt her ankle in Aus I dont think she would have beaten her.... she beat Justine period.... but she needs to not fall apart when she plays Davenport/Serena/Kim/ Any of her friends. If I see Amelie lose another Wimbledon semifinal when she should win Ill go crazy.

Il Primo!
Jun 18th, 2006, 03:56 AM
Huge lack of significant victories in significant(or not)moments. When you look at her H2H against the big names it's just :o . Plus,to me,her technique is too poor,she doesn't really has skill except her fantastic volley(her backhand is so overrated) and her exceptional physique

Zauber
Jun 18th, 2006, 03:58 AM
win another grand slam tournament.
I think she has done really well this year.
Mauresmo and Henin are the best by far so far this year.

Shenanigans
Jun 18th, 2006, 04:00 AM
Although I believe Ame won the YEC and AO fair and square beacuse of her performance at RG there will always be those who doubt her and question her right to be no 1. In my view she will have to beat either Clijsters or JHH in a GS final, without any of them being injured or sick before, finally and deservedly, she gets to ditch the choke label.

Amélie's performances at RG are understandable in many ways, you have to be at RG to really feel what is like for her, everybody wants a piece of her.
I went down to watch her mixed doubles match on an outside court by the time I got there it was packed out and people queing to get in. There was people jumping on a fence and clinging on to a tree just to get a picture of her and security was telling them to get down. I am not just talking about momosapiens here :lol: but middle aged men and women.
All of the players were aware of what is happening outside, I left and when I walked back Kim was practicing on a court with just a few people watching and Lena d was on the court opposite and again could just practice in peace.
They had actually blocked off the access to these courts when I came back cause too many people were coming down.
But all I can say for Amélie is that she is an introverted person and does not like to live in the spotlight it must be difficult to be at RG, I think she plays her best tennis away from France and her best chances at GS's are Wimbledon and the Aus open.

Il Primo!
Jun 18th, 2006, 04:04 AM
I was about to forget..If she could reduce losses,it would sound better
Ivanovic,Petrova,Kuznetsova(2 times),Schiavone,JHH,Vaidisova,it's anormally too much for a supposed number one. She's allowed to lose agains Nadia Sveta and Juju but the other losses are less "allowable" :o

darrinbaker00
Jun 18th, 2006, 04:28 AM
While the three retirements in Australia were out of Mauresmo's control, they will forever place a symbolic asterisk on that title. To remove it, Mauresmo will have to play and win seven full matches at a major.

Prizeidiot
Jun 18th, 2006, 07:03 AM
Win the French Open

DomenicDemaria
Jun 18th, 2006, 07:54 AM
For me they have to be:
-Win a french open
-Defend YEC or AO.

If she does any of these I would see her to be a champion

LoveFifteen
Jun 18th, 2006, 05:21 PM
While the three retirements in Australia were out of Mauresmo's control, they will forever place a symbolic asterisk on that title. To remove it, Mauresmo will have to play and win seven full matches at a major.

The semifinal and final retirements were pivotal, but the other one? Come on!

Kart
Jun 18th, 2006, 05:30 PM
Every player has doubters ... even multi slam winners like Justine and Venus.

All Amelie can do is continue to play her game.

darrinbaker00
Jun 18th, 2006, 05:33 PM
The semifinal and final retirements were pivotal, but the other one? Come on!
Like I said, all three were out of Mauresmo's control, but the fact remains that she only played four full matches out of seven. If she wins seven matches at Wimbledon, it will legitimize her status as a Grand Slam champion and her #1 ranking. It's grossly unfair, but c'est la vie.

Harju.
Jun 18th, 2006, 05:35 PM
Who cares about doubters, Momo is still AO Champion, #1, and most importantly, a genuine humang being.

hablo
Jun 18th, 2006, 05:36 PM
Every player has doubters ... even multi slam winners like Justine and Venus.

All Amelie can do is continue to play her game.
exactly, well said :yeah: :worship:

Rollo
Jun 18th, 2006, 05:38 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kart again.



:worship: to you Kart


She's got a good shot at Wimbledon-win that and she'll silence a few doubters and gain a few haters:)

vwfan
Jun 18th, 2006, 06:46 PM
win a Grand slam taking out another healthy top player.

rjd1111
Jun 18th, 2006, 06:48 PM
By Winning.

LoveFifteen
Jun 18th, 2006, 07:01 PM
Every player has doubters ... even multi slam winners like Justine and Venus.

All Amelie can do is continue to play her game.

So true! :hearts:

Il Primo!
Jun 18th, 2006, 07:21 PM
Actually,I think it's too late for her,she accumulated so much bad thing that she will be an eternel choker,loser or false Slam winner or number one

saint
Jun 18th, 2006, 08:12 PM
Actually,I think it's too late for her,she accumulated so much bad thing that she will be an eternel choker,loser or false Slam winner or number one

No, I disagree with that, I think if she wins another slam she will ditch most of the crap she gets, but as someone said earlier all of the top players get some shit thrown at them what ever they do.

turt
Jun 18th, 2006, 08:38 PM
How can Mauresmo finally ditch all the doubters?She can't. Doubters will always put an asterix, no matter how many slams she wins in the future.
I already imagine the comments: "Well, it took her 3 retirements in a Slam to understand how to win one, and without that incredible luck she would still be slamless now, even though she just won her 23rd Slam in a row" :lol:

Il Primo!
Jun 18th, 2006, 09:22 PM
No, I disagree with that, I think if she wins another slam she will ditch most of the crap she gets, but as someone said earlier all of the top players get some shit thrown at them what ever they do.
This person mentioned Venus and JHH...not the same league

mirzalover
Jun 18th, 2006, 09:44 PM
Win 7 Matches In A Row That Are Completed All The Way At Any Grand Slam And She Will Put All Haters Aside

saint
Jun 18th, 2006, 11:02 PM
This person mentioned Venus and JHH...not the same league

The principle is the same, sometimes whoever you are and what ever you do, for some people it will never be good enough and the crap will always follow.

Il Primo!
Jun 18th, 2006, 11:17 PM
The principle is the same, sometimes whoever you are and what ever you do, for some people it will never be good enough and the crap will always follow.

You know,I should let it drop..it's hopeless,she's hopeless. I really don't understand why she is under the spotlights consedering what she achieved so far(or not achieved)..if she was that talented and strong,she would have achieved a lil bit more.When you're strong,you're always find a way to overwhelm obstacles!She's 27 y.o and it's not done yet..I think and I'm sure I 'm a honest person and frankly,I'm not biased at all,it's a fact and I don't understand why everyone doesn't think as I do :confused:

Justine Fan
Jun 18th, 2006, 11:40 PM
Amélie's performances at RG are understandable in many ways, you have to be at RG to really feel what is like for her, everybody wants a piece of her.
I went down to watch her mixed doubles match on an outside court by the time I got there it was packed out and people queing to get in. There was people jumping on a fence and clinging on to a tree just to get a picture of her and security was telling them to get down. I am not just talking about momosapiens here :lol: but middle aged men and women.
All of the players were aware of what is happening outside, I left and when I walked back Kim was practicing on a court with just a few people watching and Lena d was on the court opposite and again could just practice in peace.
They had actually blocked off the access to these courts when I came back cause too many people were coming down.
But all I can say for Amélie is that she is an introverted person and does not like to live in the spotlight it must be difficult to be at RG, I think she plays her best tennis away from France and her best chances at GS's are Wimbledon and the Aus open.

Hasn't she won the GDF or a couple of titles in Paris?

If she has, what's the difference ... they are both played in France! n :confused:

saint
Jun 18th, 2006, 11:43 PM
Hasn't she won the GDF or a couple of titles in Paris?

If she has, what's the difference ... they are both played in France! n :confused:

GDF isn't a grand slam, I guess that's the difference- the pressure is different or at least she experiences it that way.

Justine Fan
Jun 18th, 2006, 11:47 PM
GDF isn't a grand slam, I guess that's the difference- the pressure is different or at least she experiences it that way.

Maybe!

anlavalle
Jun 19th, 2006, 12:24 AM
Who cares about doubters, Momo is still AO Champion, #1, and most importantly, a genuine humang being.


ditto :yeah:

anlavalle
Jun 19th, 2006, 12:26 AM
She can't. Doubters will always put an asterix, no matter how many slams she wins in the future.
I already imagine the comments: "Well, it took her 3 retirements in a Slam to understand how to win one, and without that incredible luck she would still be slamless now, even though she just won her 23rd Slam in a row" :lol:


I agree

controlfreak
Jun 19th, 2006, 12:37 AM
She could always take up a career in petanque. Then she would be so off the radar that she wouldn't have any doubters.

vwfan
Jun 19th, 2006, 02:07 AM
all the elite players (multiple slam winners) have a winning h2h against her. until she can beat the best and consistently, she will just always be considered the best of the rest. and davenport and serena own her. period!

good news though, she does have a winning h2h against fellow countrywomen. . .Mary Pierce! :lol:

you can't be convincing as the #1 like that.

Shenanigans
Jun 19th, 2006, 02:21 AM
all the elite players (muliple slam winners) have a winning h2h against her. until she can beat the best and consistently, she will just always be considered the best of the rest. and davenport and serena own her. period!

good news though, she does have a winning h2h against fellow countrywomen. . .Mary Pierce! :lol:

you can't be convincing as the #1 like that.

She has beaten Venus in their last 2 maybe 3 meetings and Kim in the last 3, in fact Capriati is a multi slam winner she has a great H2H against her and against Justine it is like 5-4 in favour of Justine.
Swings and roundabouts all things can change!!!

vwfan
Jun 19th, 2006, 03:00 AM
By Winning.
:lol:

partbrit
Jun 19th, 2006, 04:11 AM
There is only one doubter she needs to get rid of, and she says she has done that. We'll see.

SAEKeithSerena
Jun 19th, 2006, 06:37 AM
she needs to beat more top players and win a slam within the next year. but i love her anyhow:)

dinhd82
Jun 19th, 2006, 08:47 AM
When she wins another slam.

jlamire
Jun 19th, 2006, 09:15 AM
The worse thing she has to do is to thing of the doubters. And as other stated before, I'm pretty sure that she could win Wimbledon and event another Australian Open, there still be doubters. She has made many sacrifices to be where she is. She is the number one. She's playing with the rules. And I don't think a lot of posters here are number ones in their business, uh?

saki
Jun 19th, 2006, 09:23 AM
I like her a lot but, for me, to prove she's a champion, she needs to win a slam by winning 7 matches against healthy players. Don't care which slam or who she beats to do it. Obviously she won the AO fair and square by being the last player standing but I don't think anyone can really argue that it's normal to have both your SF and F opponents retire and, given that since 99 she's lost in semi-final after semi-final, I'm not at all convinced that that victory has really changed anything for her.

I want to believe in her but, looking at it objectively, it's just hard to see how to.

Sam L
Jun 19th, 2006, 09:34 AM
She needs to win a grand slam by winning the championship point, not by been handed it.

saint
Jun 19th, 2006, 10:32 PM
She has beaten Venus in their last 2 maybe 3 meetings and Kim in the last 3, in fact Capriati is a multi slam winner she has a great H2H against her and against Justine it is like 5-4 in favour of Justine.
Swings and roundabouts all things can change!!!

She can do it, but just isn't consistent enough, I still enjoy watching her as you can never tell what will happen. I guess Wimbledon is going to be a real test for her, particularly if she has to face an on form JHH or Clijsters in the second week.

*JR*
Jun 19th, 2006, 10:51 PM
Momo probably needs 2B the kind of, err, Dominatrix :eek: that Kim was last summer. Though a Wimby-USO "parlay" would substitute quite well for winning the US Open Series in terms of her public image. Or winning either Slam, plus beating top players to win a couple of indoor Tier I's this fall.

Shenanigans
Jun 19th, 2006, 11:49 PM
She can do it, but just isn't consistent enough, I still enjoy watching her as you can never tell what will happen. I guess Wimbledon is going to be a real test for her, particularly if she has to face an on form JHH or Clijsters in the second week.

But even if she wins Wimbledon it will still not be enough for some people, They will say her 2 biggest nemesises were not there Lindsay and Serena, I think as other posters have said there is always going to be doubters or you could say haters even Graf has them cause of what happened to Monica.