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paul_masterton
Jun 16th, 2006, 02:01 PM
That is lowest award by any of the 4 GS countries for about 10 years. I knwo the British women aren't great, but then how many of the French, Ozzie and American girsl who gets wildcards (especially in the qualifying event) do much better?

If you look at the results of grand slam wildcards, generally they are very poor. its just a fact. but this year wimbledon has gone all out.5 out of 8 main draw to brits (totally understandable and i think the right decisions). but i dont see how you can justify only giving 4 of the 8 qualifying wildcards to brits? does the LTA expect some favour to be returned? cos it aint gonna happen.

im pissed off. but at least Karen is in :D

auntie janie
Jun 16th, 2006, 02:13 PM
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new-york
Jun 16th, 2006, 02:15 PM
only?

Jorn
Jun 16th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Who got the Quali Wildcards?

tenn_ace
Jun 16th, 2006, 02:25 PM
9 really sounds very generous to me...

Carmen Mairena
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:01 PM
Enough IMO! :o

Tripp
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:12 PM
So who got the remaining qualy WC?

Andy T
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:22 PM
I think at least some of the wildcards to the slams should be decided by the ITF, not the individual tournaments because the current system gives an in-built advantage to the home players of the four majors. If you're a Nigerian, a Chilean or an Iranian, you don't stand a chance. At least the ITF has representatives from all corners of the globe.

FrenchY52
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:23 PM
9 bad players in a Gran Slam .. It's too much

AyumiMorita
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:24 PM
who got the qualy wildcards?

Munich
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:25 PM
9 bad players in a Gran Slam .. It's too much
exactly my thought :o

gumoll
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:27 PM
who got the WC to the qualies???

Farina Elia Fan
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:29 PM
for the brits

Jane,Karen and Georgie and 1 more to be decided, I think I read on GBtennisGirls

Monica_Rules
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:40 PM
I think the number in the maindraw is ok but qualifying is a joke. i think if you look at the results of aussies, french and americans in qualifying via a WC its about the same as the UK girls performances.

I agree that there is a need to get tougher but 6 WC's would have done that given them to

Jane O'Donoghue, Karen Paterson, Georgie Stoop, Becky Llewellyn, Amanda Janes and Sarah Coles.

Sarah Coles has moved up 400 places in the rankings this yea surly that deserves some recogition?

Farina Elia Fan
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:54 PM
I think the number in the maindraw is ok but qualifying is a joke. i think if you look at the results of aussies, french and americans in qualifying via a WC its about the same as the UK girls performances.

I agree that there is a need to get tougher but 6 WC's would have done that given them to

Jane O'Donoghue, Karen Paterson, Georgie Stoop, Becky Llewellyn, Amanda Janes and Sarah Coles.

Sarah Coles has moved up 400 places in the rankings this yea surly that deserves some recogition?


:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

100% correct imo

auntie janie
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:54 PM
I don't think anyone outside the top 250 should ever get a main draw Slam wild card. The only exceptions should be a winner of a wild card playoff mini-tournament (as in Australia), or a top-100 player temporarily ranked low due to absence from illness or injury.

By this standard, Britain would only have THREE players eligible for main draw WCs -- and this year just two, with poor Elena B. sadly out with injury/surgery. :sad:

As for qualy wild cards, I think Slam countries should set their own standards for that, but again, there needs to be some ranking cut-off point or other specific standard so that everyone knows where they stand ahead of time, and so that unfair favoritism has no chance to come into play.

Monica_Rules
Jun 16th, 2006, 04:08 PM
Well through your system GBR should have 4 maindraw WC's cos Naomi Cavaday won the play-offs. With her win in birmingham Sarah Borwell will be top 250 so that makes 4 even without Bally.

Melanie South is the onyl excepttion and she is ranked top 300 so not too far off.

faboozadoo15
Jun 16th, 2006, 04:12 PM
it makes sense that the united states, france, and australia should keep giving their wildcards to their players at a higher rate. they have more players who are far better.

DevilishAttitude
Jun 16th, 2006, 04:18 PM
Well I have an issue with the qualifying draw wildcards over the British players :rolleyes:

O'Donoghue is understandable considering she won a match last year but Paterson and Stoop?! They should not have wildcards. Paterson's highest rank is 369, she's 24 years old, her best results are 2 10K finals, her best win is over Skavronskaia and it's her lone Top 200 win. Her best this year in 2 10K SF's. All of that makes her undeserved.

Stoop is young but her results aren't impressive either. Jade Curtis is more promising.

If I were Amanda Janes or Rebecca Llewellyn who are capable of winning a roundor 2 at qualies I'd be very pissed off. I could understand if 6 wildcards were given to British players but there not.

My guesses for the others are:
Janes or Llewellyn
Paszek
Wozniacki
Szavay
Then either Morita, Tulyaganova, Schultz McCarthy, Liggan, Radwanska, Lapushchenkova etc.

Monica_Rules
Jun 16th, 2006, 04:23 PM
Stoop and Paterson got to the semis in the play offs thats why they got them.

Stoop beat Llewellyn 7-5 in the third to get there.

Monica_Rules
Jun 16th, 2006, 04:24 PM
Frogot to add Karen has got the semis of 2 25k's!

AyumiMorita
Jun 16th, 2006, 04:54 PM
Well I have an issue with the qualifying draw wildcards over the British players :rolleyes:

O'Donoghue is understandable considering she won a match last year but Paterson and Stoop?! They should not have wildcards. Paterson's highest rank is 369, she's 24 years old, her best results are 2 10K finals, her best win is over Skavronskaia and it's her lone Top 200 win. Her best this year in 2 10K SF's. All of that makes her undeserved.

Stoop is young but her results aren't impressive either. Jade Curtis is more promising.

If I were Amanda Janes or Rebecca Llewellyn who are capable of winning a roundor 2 at qualies I'd be very pissed off. I could understand if 6 wildcards were given to British players but there not.

My guesses for the others are:
Janes or Llewellyn
Paszek
Wozniacki
Szavay
Then either Morita, Tulyaganova, Schultz McCarthy, Liggan, Radwanska, Lapushchenkova etc.

Morita!

auntie janie
Jun 16th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Well through your system GBR should have 4 maindraw WC's cos Naomi Cavaday won the play-offs. With her win in birmingham Sarah Borwell will be top 250 so that makes 4 even without Bally.

Melanie South is the onyl excepttion and she is ranked top 300 so not too far off.
Okay, that's good, then. I'm glad the LTA is so receptive to my system. ;)

TS
Jun 16th, 2006, 06:16 PM
I don't see a problem with this. It should be done at all the Slams. Ordinary home players ranked 500 really have no business playing in a GS, even if it is qualifying.

bis2806
Jun 16th, 2006, 06:20 PM
Personally I don't think any of the GBR girls deserve to receive a wildcard :tape: I think other American players like Suzi Babos, the recent NCAA champ, and the younger generation that have potential - such as Asha Rolle - should be given the WCs.

gumoll
Jun 16th, 2006, 06:22 PM
Stoop with a WC - best rank 637 :retard:

gumoll
Jun 16th, 2006, 06:24 PM
Personally I don't think any of the GBR girls deserve to receive a wildcard :tape: I think other American players like Suzi Babos, the recent NCAA champ, and the younger generation that have potential - such as Asha Rolle - should be given the WCs.
I hope Rolle will play in US Open without a WC :)

Uranus
Jun 16th, 2006, 07:08 PM
I think it's normal. Brits don't have as many good players as Americans, French...
It's better giving the WC to players who actually have a real chance of advancing!

JackFrost
Jun 16th, 2006, 07:11 PM
9 bad players in a Gran Slam .. It's too much

I think, the Top 100 player are happy to get some of this wildcards in the first round and have an easy trainings session for the serious opponents. :lol:

JackFrost
Jun 16th, 2006, 07:13 PM
Personally I don't think any of the GBR girls deserve to receive a wildcard :tape: I think other American players like Suzi Babos, the recent NCAA champ, and the younger generation that have potential - such as Asha Rolle - should be given the WCs.

Why only other american players? They have their grand slam, where young players can get their wildcards. :rolleyes:

RJWCapriati
Jun 16th, 2006, 07:14 PM
9 bad players in a Gran Slam .. It's too much


:lol:

tucker1989
Jun 16th, 2006, 09:39 PM
How come the LTA has completely ignored Alice Barnes, a Brit, a recent Stanford graduate and a top 5 college player?

LUXXXAS
Jun 16th, 2006, 10:53 PM
oh shit- 9 WC's wasted... :rolleyes::help:

LegionArgentina
Jun 16th, 2006, 11:00 PM
I hope that my favorites plays with some brits.

Last year Mariana Diaz Oliva def Anne K in straght set , and Mariana really suck on grass, the british always the same ... :rolleyes:

charmedRic
Jun 16th, 2006, 11:18 PM
I don't think anyone outside the top 250 should ever get a main draw Slam wild card. The only exceptions should be a winner of a wild card playoff mini-tournament (as in Australia), or a top-100 player temporarily ranked low due to absence from illness or injury.

By this standard, Britain would only have THREE players eligible for main draw WCs -- and this year just two, with poor Elena B. sadly out with injury/surgery. :sad:

As for qualy wild cards, I think Slam countries should set their own standards for that, but again, there needs to be some ranking cut-off point or other specific standard so that everyone knows where they stand ahead of time, and so that unfair favoritism has no chance to come into play.

I agree.

Stingray
Jun 16th, 2006, 11:50 PM
More qualy wild cards should have gone to some Brits, how can we produce world class players when we don't give them the chance to compete on the big stage???
Becky Ll should def get a quali WC, as should Sarah Coles, whose risen 400 (?) spots in around 8 months. I agree with only giving maindraw ones to players capable of winning a match but we could have been more generous with the QWC, at least give 'em a shot!

bailey
Jun 17th, 2006, 12:24 AM
8 wildcards for the maindraw are too many anyway. I think it would be enough to have 2 oder 4 wildcards. For the others: if your ranking is too low, play the qualies!

TheBoiledEgg
Jun 17th, 2006, 12:35 AM
How come the LTA has completely ignored Alice Barnes, a Brit, a recent Stanford graduate and a top 5 college player?

for them to give her a WC would mean Alice having to fly over and to play as an amateur........ dont think she'd do that.

so.krist!na
Jun 17th, 2006, 01:13 AM
Well I have an issue with the qualifying draw wildcards over the British players :rolleyes:

O'Donoghue is understandable considering she won a match last year but Paterson and Stoop?! They should not have wildcards. Paterson's highest rank is 369, she's 24 years old, her best results are 2 10K finals, her best win is over Skavronskaia and it's her lone Top 200 win. Her best this year in 2 10K SF's. All of that makes her undeserved.

Stoop is young but her results aren't impressive either. Jade Curtis is more promising.

If I were Amanda Janes or Rebecca Llewellyn who are capable of winning a roundor 2 at qualies I'd be very pissed off. I could understand if 6 wildcards were given to British players but there not.

My guesses for the others are:
Janes or Llewellyn
Paszek
Wozniacki
Szavay
Then either Morita, Tulyaganova, Schultz McCarthy, Liggan, Radwanska, Lapushchenkova etc.
I hope they can give a wildcard to Caro W :rolleyes:

Farina Elia Fan
Jun 17th, 2006, 09:49 AM
I hope that my favorites plays with some brits.

Last year Mariana Diaz Oliva def Anne K in straght set , and Mariana really suck on grass, the british always the same ... :rolleyes:



Anne hadnt long come back after having 8 months off with a career threating knee injury!!! so get your fact right :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :wavey:

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Jun 17th, 2006, 09:55 AM
do we know who gets all the Qualy WC's yet

turt
Jun 17th, 2006, 10:06 AM
More qualy wild cards should have gone to some Brits, how can we produce world class players when we don't give them the chance to compete on the big stage???
Becky Ll should def get a quali WC, as should Sarah Coles, whose risen 400 (?) spots in around 8 months. I agree with only giving maindraw ones to players capable of winning a match but we could have been more generous with the QWC, at least give 'em a shot!
Well, how do you think the players coming from any other country than France, USA, GB and Australia become "World Class players"? :rolleyes:

Stingray
Jun 17th, 2006, 10:27 AM
Well, how do you think the players coming from any other country than France, USA, GB and Australia become "World Class players"? :rolleyes:

But if we (the UK) have the means to give our players such a fantastic opportunity- shouldn't we give it??? Plus 3 out of 8 MD WC's have gone to foreign players, 2 of them promising juniors.

Monica_Rules
Jun 17th, 2006, 11:52 AM
I think most people agree with the amount of maindraw WC's but its the qualifying ones that take the biscuit, Most british girls play at 25k level all the time and thats the standard bascially of grandslam qualifying so giving out 6 WC's to qualies as i sgguested before is what should have happened. I see after only giving out 3 WC's to the men now all of a sudden 3 other british men have been given WC's on the sly, granted one of them was the play-off winner but the runner up and 3rd place now have a WC. Seems very fair when only the winner of the womens one got a WC and british mens tennis beyond the top 3 is in a worts state than the womens at the moment.

MT20
Jun 17th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Qualy WC are given to these players.

1. Ivana Abramovic (CRO)

2. Cara Black (ZIM)

3. Jelena Dokic (AUS)

4. Amanda Keen (GBR)

5. Jane O'Donoghue (GBR)

6. Karen Paterson (GBR)

7. Georgie Stoop (GBR)

8. Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2006-06-13/200606131150215835630.html

pancake
Jun 17th, 2006, 12:37 PM
Ivana Abramovic
I am sorry but could someone tell me who she is?

Dexter
Jun 17th, 2006, 12:38 PM
OMG Caroline!!! :banana: :banana:
Good luck!!!

Monica_Rules
Jun 17th, 2006, 12:41 PM
Glad Amanda got one she deservs it but not giving a WC to Becky Llewellyn is a disgrace if i was her i would be really pissed off. but she'll have to prove the LTA wrong and continue to climb the rankings over the next 12 months and be close to ther top 200 soon.

gumoll
Jun 17th, 2006, 12:41 PM
Qualy WC are given to these players.

1. Ivana Abramovic (CRO)

2. Cara Black (ZIM)

3. Jelena Dokic (AUS)

4. Amanda Keen (GBR)

5. Jane O'Donoghue (GBR)

6. Karen Paterson (GBR)

7. Georgie Stoop (GBR)

8. Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2006-06-13/200606131150215835630.html

Ivana Abramovic!!!! but why???

why Stoop?!?!?! where is Llewelyn

Freakan
Jun 17th, 2006, 12:42 PM
Jelana & Caroline :woohoo:
Ivana??? :confused:

Dann
Jun 17th, 2006, 12:55 PM
good luck Aga & Caroline :D

Prizeidiot
Jun 17th, 2006, 01:17 PM
Considering the LTA said they'd only give wildcards to Brits who could win a round or two, I'd say they've been INCREDIBLY generous, or delusional

Uranus
Jun 17th, 2006, 01:58 PM
I thought Baltacha would get a MD WC. She's #227 but I think she'll enter the Quali draw though!
And where is Llewellyn?

Jorn
Jun 17th, 2006, 02:02 PM
Good luck Caroline!! :) Thanks to LTA! ;)


Bally don't get WC because she's injured...

AyumiMorita
Jun 17th, 2006, 03:08 PM
Ayumi!!! :-(

Andy.
Jun 17th, 2006, 03:11 PM
Should have been more :yawn:
I think they will get more when they prove that they deserve them.

Tripp
Jun 17th, 2006, 03:14 PM
Georgie Stoop lost 6-0 6-0 today in Eastbourne qualies :help:

I just don't get the Ivana Abramovic thing. How on earth did she get a WC?

Monica_Rules
Jun 17th, 2006, 03:52 PM
Georgie:o :sad:

Experimentee
Jun 17th, 2006, 04:05 PM
I dont get Abramovic WC either?
Shes not young and never was a good player.

Sharapova's_Boy
Jun 17th, 2006, 04:06 PM
Abramovic?!? :unsure:

LegionArgentina
Jun 17th, 2006, 04:14 PM
:lol: Qualy WC are given to these players.

1. Ivana Abramovic (CRO)

2. Cara Black (ZIM)

3. Jelena Dokic (AUS)

4. Amanda Keen (GBR)

5. Jane O'Donoghue (GBR)

6. Karen Paterson (GBR)

7. Georgie Stoop (GBR)

8. Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2006-06-13/200606131150215835630.html

Wimbledon :rolleyes:

Abramovic :confused:
Stoop :tape: (6/0-6/0) :lol

How many games can win Stoop in the qualy?
The brit who win will a match def another brit,