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The Countess
May 26th, 2002, 02:34 AM
Hi:kiss:

I thought I would just have a nosey around on other boards and subscribed to kournikova.com board. I noticed that it has about 130,000 registered members. And about only 500 have posted, thats only a quater of a percent who actually talk about Anna. In theory she would have lots of fans etc, I mean look at all the fan clubs and bases. But How many actually like her tennis playing combined with the looks, and would the other "fans" be not interested in her talent, but her glamourous looks. It's just puzzling to know what the percentage of fans actually take interest in what she does, instead of horny old men ;)

It's annoying to see people to take advantage of her like that. Sure she is allowed followers just for her, but people that dont follow her are not called fans. More like a "crush" and who needs to stop dreaming.

Luv Countess:kiss:

the cat
May 26th, 2002, 02:53 AM
What's the point Countess? :confused:

It took me nearly 2 years after I viewed the tennis boards to start posting. I bet that alot of Anna's fans are too nervous to post! ;)

Yes, Anna's fans are attracted to her looks and glamour, as well as her exciting all court game! :D

I'm kind of sorry Anna has gotten so famous around the world. It hasn't helped her tennis any! :eek:

But I will say that her fans are eagerly waiting for her to find her form and fulfill her potential. The hope is still there. :)

Udachi Anna! :bounce:

The Countess
May 26th, 2002, 02:59 AM
Sorry If I didint explain my self well enough.:)

Im just trying to say does the Majority of Anna Fans like her tennis playing ability or is it the majority who probably don't even like tennis and are just out there to try to sneak a peak:eek: .
Just trying to make a point that there is very few "anna fans" around the world that like her tennis abilities, By few I mean quite alot. or the "minority" and the rest just like her good looks, can you call them fans, or die hard perverts?

Luv Countess:kiss:

kournikovafan13
May 26th, 2002, 03:43 AM
Well Anna is supposed to be one of the most popular athletes in the world, but when you count how many Anna fans post here (which means they actually follow her tennis) the number is reduced considerably.:o :rolleyes:

Cassius
May 26th, 2002, 03:47 AM
I agree with KOURNIKOVAFAN13.
Its not just true with Anna, I think its true with ALL (esp. female) athletes.

juggler
May 26th, 2002, 08:02 AM
as the moderator there i am thankful like u wouldnt believe that only 500 post out of 130,000.

seriously as much as it upsets me i have to admit the vast majority of her "fans" (not really the word that applies to them) are nothing but dribbling morons.

irma
May 26th, 2002, 08:12 AM
I am her true fan because there are days when I think enough is enough(by example after I saw her video) but at the end of the day I always end up rooting for her! I gave up my resistance!;)
Go Anna:)
and nope I don't care about her looks, I think she has a lot of tennistalent wich she doesn't use very well lately:(

~ The Leopard ~
May 26th, 2002, 11:43 AM
Well, Countess, you've just joined that board, so I hope you like it when you get to know us.

It's true that there are many thousands of members of the kounrikova.com board. I'd say most of them almost never visit it and, when they do, just want to look at photos. I wouldn't consider them fans, just people who think she is sexy.

But the board is also a club for the much smaller group of her genuine fans, and it does the job that the Anna Maniacs forum isn't doing here. It's much the same group of people, but Anna Maniacs isn't very active because we all post at kournikova.com (most of the time) instead.

Does that answer your question?

:kiss:

John Inverdale
May 26th, 2002, 11:50 AM
I LOVE ANNA!!!!

Aloysius
May 26th, 2002, 01:51 PM
I've been following my top row of faves (Adore and Loved players - see below) since they first emerged from obscurity. I started following Anna when she was 10. I've been hoping for bigger things for her, but I'll continue supporting her regardless.

whorehand
May 26th, 2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by jouissant

It's true that there are many thousands of members of the kounrikova.com board. I'd say most of them almost never visit it and, when they do, just want to look at photos. I wouldn't consider them fans, just people who think she is sexy.



This is so true. If you ever go into the photo forums, the majority of posters that are currently online are in there. I think it would be safe to say most of them are sexually frustrated teens looking for something to help aid them pleasure themselves, but thats besides the point. Some of them have high post counts, in which they just post in that forum alone. They don't even bother with the tennis forum, which is pretty sad, since anna is infact a tennis player. Have you ever seem some of the thread topics. They are ridiculous. ANNA PONYTAIL THREAD!!!!!! why bother?

TatiAnnahølic
May 26th, 2002, 02:42 PM
Go Anna you're the best!

Berlin_Calling
May 26th, 2002, 02:56 PM
Anna is the bomb, and I agree with you The Countess, that millions of people just like Anna because of her looks and they dont give a shit if she ever wins a title or not. Most of them dont even know Anna hasnt won a title yet, showing how much they know about tennis.:rolleyes: Well, even though people doubt Anna and say she is UNTALENTED and CANT PLAY FOR HER LIFE, they are definitly wrong. She has been 8 in the world and has beaten many top players including Davenport, Hingis, Capriati, Clijsters, Mauresmo, and lots more. Sure she is no Williams but 99.99% of tennis players ARENT. I dont know why people underestimate Anna, ARE THEY JEALOUS. I know it ounds crazy but what is the other reason. She endorses products like any other tennis player. I dont get it.:confused:

Sean
May 26th, 2002, 04:00 PM
Im a fan of her looks :drool: definitely, but im care about her game too.
I am a fan of her i think she has great potential. :D I really hope she fulfils it.

Steam
May 26th, 2002, 04:41 PM
Wait? Are you saying that some people on kournikova.com are just fans of her looks? Oh, the horror!!!! I can't believe that I hadn't figured that out.

As I've said in the past, you can probably just take 15 - 20 (actually hitting the high side now in recent weeks with a few new additions) posters and just have them post. That would weed out a lot of the bullshit. I could give the list but that would be too mean to some people who wouldn't make my cut.

ßcoene
May 26th, 2002, 04:58 PM
I'm registred on Kournikova.com and I never post anything there because at first it didn't work. Some time ago I discovered this site and here it finally worked to post something. But I still don't post there anything because I think this site is much more interesting. I'm obsessed with tennis in general. Kournikova is one of my favourites but not the only one and certainly not only for her looks. I'm a fan of her because I like tennis, she has a lot of talend and it's fun watching her play. Probably there are a lot of "fans" that are not interested in her results.
I hope her results will be better in the futur and that she will finally win a tournament because that's the thing they always say in the media.
"She is really beautifull and popular but she hasn't won a tournament." But they never say she has been number 8 in singles and number 1 in doubles. I wonder what they will say in the media when she has won a tournament. Maybe they will say she has only won one tournament.

THE NET
May 26th, 2002, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by bcoene
......I hope her results will be better in the futur and that she will finally win a tournament because that's the thing they always say in the media.

"She is really beautifull and popular but she hasn't won a tournament." But they never say she has been number 8 in singles and number 1 in doubles. I wonder what they will say in the media when she has won a tournament. Maybe they will say she has only won one tournament.

I agree with you bcoene. Poor ANNA

:mad:

c2
May 26th, 2002, 07:04 PM
Great topic, Countess, and I couldn't agree more. I am a fan of Anna's TENNIS but I often feel in the minority! She has a beautiful game and a lot of talent.. I love to watch her play. But lately she hasn't been improving her game. I know she has other interests in life but I wish she would really focus on her tennis for the next five years and do all the other stuff later. I mean she'll still be beautiful in five or ten years but she won't be able to play tennis competetively forever so she should just focus on tennis now!

Also I think Alla and her dad really do have what's best for her in mind.. they are her parents. But that doesn't mean they are the best tennis coaches in the world! Anna is a top player and she's learned a lot from them...they've taken her this far. But (and I am NOT bashing Anna here) she needs work on her serve, and some other areas of her game. She could use another coach who could take her to the next level. Players do that all the time... learn all they can from one coach, then go to another one who has some different ideas! I think Anna could be in the top ten again if she makes these changes. I just hope she does because I'm sick of people bashing/laughing at her... she really has the potential to be a great great player :(

~*Alma*~
May 26th, 2002, 07:12 PM
I'm an Anna fan too. and I also post at kournikova.com
I don't care about her looks I like the way she play's. :)
And I'm not a dirty old men ;) (I'm one of her female fans ;))

saff76ar
May 26th, 2002, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Steam
As I've said in the past, you can probably just take 15 - 20 (actually hitting the high side now in recent weeks with a few new additions) posters and just have them post. That would weed out a lot of the bullshit.

That sums up how many people care about her tennis there, the rest are just morons like Juggler said, who only care about her looks and keep pestering the other forums with complete nonsense. It's true that most of those 15-20 posters are also here, the problem is, as Joui said, that most of us chose to be more active at Anna's board than at the Anna Maniacs forum, that's why, in my case, you won't see me around here so much.

Since you've joined us there recently, you'll probably find out soon enough how things go there, i suggest you stick to the tennis forum only if you want to avoid the crap.

Btw, welcome aboard.
:wavey:

venusfan
May 26th, 2002, 10:10 PM
I think the media is the one that created all the sensation about her looks. And it's no suprise that the majority of her fans are only fans of her because of her so-called looks because her tennis game is no where to be found. People say mrs Anna has great shots but it's not great shots if she cant get out the 1st round.

kournikovafan13
May 26th, 2002, 10:14 PM
:rolleyes: @venusfan
Its called bad form

But, back to the subject, I agree with juggler, the other day I was at the photo forum, and a member was browsing there, and can you guess what his name was? "kournikovaisaloser":rolleyes: Some horny guy, obviously.

saff76ar
May 26th, 2002, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by kournikovafan13
"kournikovaisaloser":rolleyes: Some horny guy, obviously.

Yeah, i saw "IT" too, dunno wether if it's a horny guy or another one of our latest addition of trolls, the ones from the Enrique Iglesias board.:rolleyes:

Steam
May 27th, 2002, 12:02 AM
Too bad the board peaked in the summer of 2000. If only we could recreate that somehow (impossible I know).

Martian Martin
May 27th, 2002, 12:07 AM
Just really ditto to what Steam and Saff said, there isn't many real fans of Anna's, but the ones that are, you'll see posting both here and at Kournikova.com on the tennis bit.
All the rest of them, especially at Anna's board, these are the ones that basically give the real Anna fans a bad name, because then everyone thinks we are just obsessed with her looks, which is completely wrong. It really annoys me, but there isn't anything anyone can do about it.

Fingon
May 27th, 2002, 01:57 AM
Well, I might sound a little weird here, but I used to be the exact opposite of most Anna fans.

She was never my top favourite but I did like her, and not because of her looks. I don't find Anna so glamorous and beautiful, it's just my personal taste but IMO she has too much of a baby face and her face is too wide, her body is ok but not terrific.

I did like her game, she has (or used to have) and all around game, nice to watch, good shot making, good volleys.

That game is gone, the beauty is still there but as it was never an issue for me now I don't like Anna.

One thing, you can't blame the fans for being like that when Anna is the one promoting that image of herself. It's RG time and the main topics on her are what's gonna be her outfit and whether she will get pass the first round, that says it all doesn't it?

If Anna wants her fans to concentrate on her tennis, she should stop making videos with Enrique Iglesias, participating in movies and being in 1000 photo shots, of course she gets paid for it, but then, she can't complain for the effects, it's the price she has to pay.

Fingon
May 27th, 2002, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by the cat


I'm kind of sorry Anna has gotten so famous around the world. It hasn't helped her tennis any! :eek:



How can you be "sorry" for Anna? she makes 12 M a year in endorsement, she makes more money than anyone else (except maybe Venus) and she hasn't won a tournament.

It's up to her, the glamour is obviously affecting her tennis career, she can stop it tomorrow if tennis is her main priority.

I don't blame her if she doesn't, I love money too, but then, I won't feel sorry for her, nobody put a gun on her head to make her be in that Enrique Iglesias video, nobody forces her to wear those outfits, it's her choice.

Cassius
May 27th, 2002, 03:42 AM
I agree with FINGON.

Jordan.
May 27th, 2002, 07:23 AM
vamos anna!

Martian Martin
May 27th, 2002, 09:48 AM
Fingon, Anna still has fans whose main reason for supporting Anna is not her looks.
You basically try and say she's given up on her tennis, but if she's concentrating on other things just as much as tennis, then why has she hired one of the top coaches in the world and why is she playing a tournament almost every week?. If she was playing very little tournaments, then it's a different argument.

I don't see why it's so wrong for Anna to do endorsements, as long as tennis is always her number 1 priority. Other players do endorsements, but they don't get any hassle for it.

auntie janie
May 27th, 2002, 11:06 AM
Countess,

Lycos has set up their Anna web site so that to view most of the photos, you have to become a member. As nearly everyone here seems to agree, that is why the Membership is so high.

If Lycos would just let anyone look a the pics without joining, then the number who joined would be a more realistic number and would correspond a lot more closely with the number who post there.

Just out of curiosity, do Anna fans not find it frustrating that she rarely updates that so-called "journal" on her site? Even when she does, her remarks are very, very superficial. If you compare it to Amelie Mauresmo's detailed, self-revealing and frequenly-updated (sometimes even during a tournament!) journal on her site, Anna does not seem to devote much time or energy at all to her best fans on her own site. Just wondering how her fans feel about this seeming disregard for them..

the cat
May 27th, 2002, 11:42 AM
Janie, it's very frustrating that Anna rarely updates her journal! :(

Countess, I think there are alot more fans of Anna the tennis player than you think! :D

Considering that Anna hasn't come close to fulfilling her potential, being a Kournikova fan is actually quite frustrating!

Anna2k, it's incorrect to say that most of Anna's fans don't care if she ever wins a tournament! :eek: Of course her fans care! :) It would be alot more fun being a Kournikova fan if she won an occasional tournament! :bounce: And EVERYONE knows that Anna hasn't yet won a WTA title! How could any tennis fan not know? :confused: Anna having not yet won a WTA title has gotten alot of publicity! :eek: Thus it would be hard NOT to know that she has never won a WTA title.

Udachi Anna! :D

juggler
May 27th, 2002, 11:58 AM
janie u have a point about her journal, she could maybe talk a bit more in that. but that is also upto lycos to update.

but i disagree with u that she is showing disregard for her fans. lets not forget that it was anna who came to us, when the site was annak.org. she just posted out of the blue, and then subsequently became responsible for annak.org becoming her official site.

but now that it is her official site, i dont want her posting, because it just creates absolute chaos. some members just cant contol their excitement.

~ The Leopard ~
May 27th, 2002, 12:55 PM
Amelie is a *star* at communicating with her fans. It's just one of the things I love about her. Yeah, I wish Anna would adopt her as a role model in that way.

Still, juggler makes good points.....

Martian KC
May 27th, 2002, 01:01 PM
I am a fan of her tennis abilities first and looks second.;) Plus, it doesn't hurt to be a friend of Martina's.;)

Zamboni
May 27th, 2002, 02:15 PM
I love Anna's game. What she does outside her tennis is her business. We can say it's good, or it's too much, but she decides what she does, and I'm sure she thinks about it.

THE NET
May 27th, 2002, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by adnil
I love Anna's game. What she does outside her tennis is her business. We can say it's good, or it's too much, but she decides what she does, and I'm sure she thinks about it.

I love it!!

:kiss:

eskimo
May 27th, 2002, 04:18 PM
Horny old men?? :mad: I think not. Maybe if Anna gave us more than her beauty, like tennis, we would have something to write about. What she needs is a coach and maybe, just maybe, more people will post messages. So, please don't stereotype all men, because of a few that only want her pics.

Thanks - Tony Smith, Canada

Steam
May 27th, 2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by eskimo
What she needs is a coach and maybe, just maybe, more people will post messages. .

Well, thanks for proving the point. If you cared about Anna's tennis you would know that she already has a coach.

LibraLad
May 27th, 2002, 10:30 PM
If Anna reached her full potential and lets say had as many Grand Slams as Venus, what do you think the media attention would be like?

How good would she have to be before writers and the media just called her an athlete instead of a female athlete?

One reason I want Anna to win, is I want to see how the media is going to treat her.



Libra
The harmonious sign of the Zodiac.

Iconoclast
May 27th, 2002, 10:49 PM
If she were a multiple Slam champion, she would have Britney Spears doing her laundry and Jennifer Lopez cleaning her kitchen sink.

LibraLad
May 27th, 2002, 11:08 PM
LOL! So you think she would be hugely popular.

eskimo
May 27th, 2002, 11:36 PM
You're absolutely right, Anna does have a coach. But it's obvious there is something wrong with the coaching, or else she would be playing better tennis wouldn't she? Also I do follow tennis, both male and female players not just Anna.

Tony Smith - Canada. :wavey:

saff76ar
May 28th, 2002, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by eskimo
But it's obvious there is something wrong with the coaching, or else she would be playing better tennis wouldn't she?

FYI, Anna started working with Solomon in Rome, that is only a couple of weeks ago, so it might take her some time before better results come, you know.

Janie, about her journal updates, yeah, i'd love if she wrote more but then again as Jugg said, some people would go ballistic (in the freakiest way, of course) if that happens.

THE NET
May 28th, 2002, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by Iconoclast
If she were a multiple Slam champion, she would have Britney Spears doing her laundry and Jennifer Lopez cleaning her kitchen sink.

lol

I don't want to imagine how Anna's house would be like if she has Britney Spears doing her laundry and Jennifer Lopez cleaning her kitchen sink.


:eek:

Def
May 28th, 2002, 06:01 AM
I LOVE ANNA!!!!!!!!!!!

typh00nz
Jun 10th, 2002, 07:24 AM
I don't want to imagine how Anna's house would be like if she has Britney Spears doing her laundry and Jennifer Lopez cleaning her kitchen sink. <the Net Britney is already busy doing my "laundry" !