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Dana Marcy
May 19th, 2006, 08:39 PM
LONDON - What was meant to be a friendly chat to promote the new "X-Men" movie turned into a frosty discussion about race on a popular morning radio program, but the British Broadcasting Corp. defended its disc jockey.

Oscar-winning actress Halle Berry appeared on Chris Moyles' Radio One breakfast show Thursday and clashed with her host after he impersonated what he described as a "big, fat, black guy."

"Are we having a racist moment here?" Berry, the first black actress to win an Academy Award for a lead role, asked Moyles after she took exception to his impersonation. Moyles, who is white, said he just couldn't do American accents.

Moyles made it clear on air that there was nothing racist in what he said, a BBC spokesman said Friday on condition of anonymity, in line with the corporation's policy.

The exchange began when Hugh Jackman, Berry's "X-Men: The Last Stand" co-star, jokingly suggested that Moyles might take the role of his body double if he ever landed the part of James Bond.

"I could definitely do that," Moyles said before adding, "Put your hands in the air!"

A somewhat puzzled Jackman replied, "Are you some kind of Brooklyn Bond?"

Moyles replied: "I'm a black American guy. A big, fat, black guy. Put your hands up in the air."

The interview continued, though the DJ later said Berry was "ratty" — British slang for grouchy.

Berry won an Oscar in 2002 for her role in "Monster's Ball."

Dana Marcy
May 19th, 2006, 08:40 PM
Moyles replied: "I'm a black American guy. A big, fat, black guy. Put your hands up in the air."

He probably meant no harm but it was dumb to say this. He was trying too hard to be cool or be ghetto or both. :rolleyes:

Avid Merrion
May 19th, 2006, 08:42 PM
Moyles isn't racist, he's just a fucking idiot :rolleyes:

GrandSlam05
May 19th, 2006, 08:44 PM
That is pretty stupid, but she really should not have jumped the gun and called him racist for it.

Dana Marcy
May 19th, 2006, 08:45 PM
Moyles isn't racist, he's just a fucking idiot :rolleyes:

That's what I thought and I didn't need an entire transcription to get that. He did say something racially insensitive but it wasn't from a hateful place. He sounds really corny but I guess they go on there to promote stuff because he's really commercial. :shrug:

Dana Marcy
May 19th, 2006, 08:46 PM
That is pretty stupid, but she really should not have jumped the gun and called him racist for it.

I'm just glad she called him on it. Some black folks wouldn't because they don't wanna cause trouble or what not.

le bon vivant
May 19th, 2006, 08:46 PM
damn I wanted to post this thread. :awww: :p

Dana Marcy
May 19th, 2006, 08:47 PM
damn I wanted to post this thread. :awww: :p

Sorry :o My co-worker just e-mailed it to me and I c/p right away. :)

timafi
May 19th, 2006, 09:04 PM
not very funny joke imo :mad: :mad: :mad:

furrykitten
May 19th, 2006, 09:06 PM
Moyles is a pillock.

marmite1
May 19th, 2006, 09:10 PM
Moyles is a pillock.

Indeed!

SelesFan70
May 19th, 2006, 09:11 PM
Either you're a cool black or you're not... :shrug:

:secret: I'm not :secret:

Avid Merrion
May 19th, 2006, 09:12 PM
not very funny joke imo :mad: :mad: :mad:
his jokes never are, the only people who laugh at them are his sycophantic co-presenters.

GrandSlam05
May 19th, 2006, 09:17 PM
I'm just glad she called him on it. Some black folks wouldn't because they don't wanna cause trouble or what not.
As if some European host would be stupid enough to say racist remarks when he has a black guest on in this day and age? :rolleyes:
Berry was just throwing her weight around.

Dana Marcy
May 19th, 2006, 10:13 PM
As if some European host would be stupid enough to say racist remarks when he has a black guest on in this day and age? :rolleyes:
Berry was just throwing her weight around.

As I already said I don't think this DJ is coming from a hateful racist place but you just don't say to a black person "I'm a black American guy. A big, fat, black guy. Put your hands up in the air" and NOT expect them to react to you. Maybe Halle pulled a diva move but based on what the dude said I don't blame her.

harloo
May 19th, 2006, 10:40 PM
The question is why did the DJ feel comfortable to impersonate a "fat ugly black man"(as he called him) in front of a black woman? I don't see how he would think that his behaviour wouldn't be offensive. And maybe he isn't racist at all just insensitive. Who knows?

controlfreak
May 19th, 2006, 11:54 PM
1. Chris Moyles is big and fat anyway, so that is clearly not intended as a negative comment about black people.

2. He was doing a James Bond impersonation for Hugh Jackman - hence the gun - not saying that black people are criminals.

3. His attempt at a cool "movie star" accent sounded more black than anything else, prompting him to make a joke about himself.

Yes, I can definitely see why Halle Berry would perceive that as racist. But, you know what they say - it takes two to have a racist moment.

If I ever met Halle Berry I would like to shove a fork up her anus.

CC
May 20th, 2006, 12:24 AM
It's ignorant and lame.

Oh and racism doesn't have to be blatant. When it is in your sub-conscious this is how it comes out.

spartanfan
May 20th, 2006, 01:29 AM
1. Chris Moyles is big and fat anyway, so that is clearly not intended as a negative comment about black people.

2. He was doing a James Bond impersonation for Hugh Jackman - hence the gun - not saying that black people are criminals.

3. His attempt at a cool "movie star" accent sounded more black than anything else, prompting him to make a joke about himself.

Yes, I can definitely see why Halle Berry would perceive that as racist. But, you know what they say - it takes two to have a racist moment.

If I ever met Halle Berry I would like to shove a fork up her anus.

YOU'RE AN IDIOT AND AN ARSE!

No Name Face
May 20th, 2006, 01:32 AM
:yeah: to halle.

she didn't even say he was racist, she said, "are we having a racist moment?" as to imply he was an idiot. i say it was tactful, i'd probably do the same thing, more or less.

smiler
May 20th, 2006, 01:49 AM
Lame. Everybody knows Radio 1 presenters are absolute twats, I'd be extremely surprised if he was being rasist though, it's difficult to tell without hearing it.

I bet I will get bad rep hell for saying this, but it really piss's me off that whenever a white person even mentions colour they're automaticly accused of being racist. It's like this lad in my maths class at school used to joke about (when asked to work on plain white A4 paper) "Oi! That's racist! What about the black paper?" :retard:

Rocketta
May 20th, 2006, 03:43 AM
Halle :clap2:

Don't take no shit girl. :hatoff:

mykarma
May 20th, 2006, 04:48 AM
[QUOTE=controlfreak]1. Chris Moyles is big and fat anyway, so that is clearly not intended as a negative comment about black people.

2. He was doing a James Bond impersonation for Hugh Jackman - hence the gun - not saying that black people are criminals.

3. His attempt at a cool "movie star" accent sounded more black than anything else, prompting him to make a joke about himself.

Yes, I can definitely see why Halle Berry would perceive that as racist. But, you know what they say - it takes two to have a racist moment.

If I ever met Halle Berry I would like to shove a fork up her anus Why?

mykarma
May 20th, 2006, 04:57 AM
He probably meant no harm but it was dumb to say this. He was trying too hard to be cool or be ghetto or both. :rolleyes:
I applaud Halle for stepping up. Most would not have had the courage to say anything on the air. What he said was insulting and certainly not like any black person I know. I stopped watching Imus in the morning because of the impersonation of Major Nagal. They think they're funny but I find it insulting. Whenever they try to impersonate a black person, they have to go to the extreme to make them look as though they have no common sense, and are just plain ignorant no matter how much education they have.

mykarma
May 20th, 2006, 05:08 AM
Lame. Everybody knows Radio 1 presenters are absolute twats, I'd be extremely surprised if he was being rasist though, it's difficult to tell without hearing it.

I bet I will get bad rep hell for saying this, but it really piss's me off that whenever a white person even mentions colour they're automaticly accused of being racist. What pisses me off is when people blame the victim
It's like this lad in my maths class at school used to joke about (when asked to work on plain white A4 paper) "Oi! That's racist! What about the black paper?" :retard:
What does what your classmate joking have to do with this situation?

RVD
May 20th, 2006, 05:18 AM
1. Chris Moyles is big and fat anyway, so that is clearly not intended as a negative comment about black people.

2. He was doing a James Bond impersonation for Hugh Jackman - hence the gun - not saying that black people are criminals.

3. His attempt at a cool "movie star" accent sounded more black than anything else, prompting him to make a joke about himself.

Yes, I can definitely see why Halle Berry would perceive that as racist. But, you know what they say - it takes two to have a racist moment.

If I ever met Halle Berry I would like to shove a fork up her anus.:haha: Do you realize that you made three huge illogical leaps to draw your conclusion, PLUS a naive belief that anyone would be ignorant enough to fall for it. :haha: Come on control, you're better than that.
At least I hope you are. :wavey:

At any rate, Chris Moyles sounds like the Rush Limbaugh of the U.K. :fiery:

darrinbaker00
May 20th, 2006, 05:21 AM
:haha: Do you realize that you made three huge illogical leaps to draw your conclusion, PLUS a naive belief that anyone would be ignorant enough to fall for it. :haha: Come on control, you're better than that.
At least I hope you are. :wavey:
Care to place a wager on that?

RVD
May 20th, 2006, 05:29 AM
I applaud Halle for stepping up. Most would not have had the courage to say anything on the air. What he said was insulting and certainly not like any black person I know. I stopped watching Imus in the morning because of the impersonation of Major Nagal. They think they're funny but I find it insulting. Whenever they try to impersonate a black person, they have to go to the extreme to make them look as though they have no common sense, and are just plain ignorant no matter how much education they have.Wifie and I stopped listening to that Imus fool because he frequently had this absolutely racist asshole who ALWAYS put Blacks down. His favorite piece was that a Black family like the Cosbys could never exist. Insinuating that all Blacks were too dumb to be lawyers or doctors and have educated children.
Bottom line is assholes like this get these radio jobs because...well...they're assholes, and these types generate controversy for the station.

RVD
May 20th, 2006, 05:31 AM
Care to place a wager on that?:haha: ...talk about a sucker bet... :lol:

Denise4925
May 20th, 2006, 05:55 AM
Halle's my girl :yeah: I would have done the same thing. He accused her of being in a bad mood because he realized what an ass he looked like and he got embarrassed :rolleyes:

darrinbaker00
May 20th, 2006, 06:02 AM
This almost makes up for "Catwoman." ALMOST.

CC
May 20th, 2006, 02:36 PM
Lame. Everybody knows Radio 1 presenters are absolute twats, I'd be extremely surprised if he was being rasist though, it's difficult to tell without hearing it.

I bet I will get bad rep hell for saying this, but it really piss's me off that whenever a white person even mentions colour they're automaticly accused of being racist. It's like this lad in my maths class at school used to joke about (when asked to work on plain white A4 paper) "Oi! That's racist! What about the black paper?" :retard:

You said it yourself that he was joking. The irony here is that it sounds like your classmate was poking fun at the need to see color and race in everything, and here you are taking him seriously.

Anyway if you're going to impersonate a James Bond body double as a black man, impersonate a younger Sidney Poitier for heavens sake. Or a Denzel Washington. Or even Samuel Jackson. How does Bond equate "big, fat black man with a Brooklyn accent?"

iced gem
May 20th, 2006, 03:37 PM
I'm not a fan of Chris Moyles - I don't listen to Radio One Breakfast Show anymore.

I think I'm better off with my iPod!

drake3781
May 20th, 2006, 03:54 PM
Can someone who thinks the comments made by the presenter are racist, please give a clear and simple explanation of what is racist, and how these comments fit into that definition?

I'm having trouble following the logic. Currently I see this a as normal conversation.

Fantastic
May 20th, 2006, 04:02 PM
If the DJ didn't even bother with an on-air apology then he's just a speck of dirt. It's manners to apologize after a bad joke. It's good that he was made to sound like a fool by Halle. He deserved it.

kiwifan
May 20th, 2006, 04:13 PM
:yeah: to halle.

she didn't even say he was racist, she said, "are we having a racist moment?" as to imply he was an idiot. i say it was tactful, i'd probably do the same thing, more or less.

:worship: :worship: :worship:

Wigglytuff
May 20th, 2006, 07:39 PM
Halle :clap2:

Don't take no shit girl. :hatoff:
:worship: :worship:

Dana Marcy
May 20th, 2006, 08:36 PM
2. He was doing a James Bond impersonation for Hugh Jackman - hence the gun - not saying that black people are criminals.


That's why I don't understand why he said what he said. The DJ was supposed to be impersonating Hugh Jackman so why make reference to a "A big, fat, black guy." Hugh was white the last time I checked. :scratch: Unless the DJ was distracted by Halle's blackness. :tape:

The exchange began when Hugh Jackman, Berry's "X-Men: The Last Stand" co-star, jokingly suggested that Moyles might take the role of his body double if he ever landed the part of James Bond.

mykarma
May 21st, 2006, 12:55 AM
Can someone who thinks the comments made by the presenter are racist, please give a clear and simple explanation of what is racist, and how these comments fit into that definition?

I'm having trouble following the logic. Currently I see this a as normal conversation.
Surely you jest.:tape:

vertigo
May 21st, 2006, 07:57 AM
Thank goodness for Halle! Someone needed to take Moyles DOWN! I haven't listened to Radio One in about 5 years mainly because its presenters have and are fuelled with gigantic egos. Moyles is a shining example of this.

I glad she made the comment. I think Halle was totally justified in questioning the motivation of his joke, and did it in the most subtle manner possible. I didn't really like Halle before this, I like her more now.

And to call her "ratty" afterwards just shows what a total unfunny loser Moyles is.

fifiricci
May 21st, 2006, 08:51 AM
I suspect this is the result of Chris Moyles being an immature twat and a loud mothed show off, but I also fear that Ms Berry was being a tad oversensitive :rolleyes: What the hell, its publicity for Moyles's show and the film, so no one will lose out and Berry and Moyles will only cry all the way to the bank, so I hope this thread is not going to turn into a gospel on racism ;)

Wintermute
May 21st, 2006, 01:18 PM
You can actually download a podcast of this interview here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chrismoyles/features/bestofmoyles.shtml). They've basically edited out almost everything Halle Berry said (and made it purposely obvious) but you get the gist of it. I think the interview is about 20 minutes in or you can skip straight to it on the enhanced one.

To be honest I don't believe Chris Moyles is a racist but I have heard him doing that voice before - just no-one has been there to call him on it or state that they might find it offensive. On the other hand Halle Berry has obviously never heard Moyles' show before. It has no political content whatsoever and Chris mainly talks about celebrities and himself so Halle's comment definitely threw him off his stride. Considering a lot of people vehemently dislike Moyles, they probably would find that quite funny if they weren't listening to Radio 2 instead.

mykarma
May 21st, 2006, 03:34 PM
I suspect this is the result of Chris Moyles being an immature twat and a loud mothed show off, but I also fear that Ms Berry was being a tad oversensitive :rolleyes: What the hell, its publicity for Moyles's show and the film, so no one will lose out and Berry and Moyles will only cry all the way to the bank, so I hope this thread is not going to turn into a gospel on racism ;)
Why do you think Halle was being over sensitive? Certainly the movie has nothing to do with a big black guy. Where did that come from?

Dana Marcy
May 21st, 2006, 08:33 PM
Why do you think Halle was being over sensitive? Certainly the movie has nothing to do with a big black guy. Where did that come from?

From how the article put it Halle kept it light even with they way she made her comment but your point is what a lot of us are wondering. James Bond and being a body double for Hugh Jackman have exactly WHAT to do with a big fat black guy? :scratch:

Crazy Canuck
May 21st, 2006, 08:36 PM
He probably meant no harm but it was dumb to say this. He was trying too hard to be cool or be ghetto or both. :rolleyes:
Agreed.

!<blocparty>!
May 21st, 2006, 08:55 PM
Chris is fat ugly and sexist.

His show was funny when I used to listen.. I can't listen to radio shows anymore though.

mykarma
Jun 7th, 2006, 08:54 PM
Why do you think Halle was being over sensitive? Certainly the movie has nothing to do with a big black guy. Where did that come from?
This is the bad rep that I received from wannaknowitall.
"I usually don't this this myself but your last 35 posts have been on threads dealing with blacks. Six straight days of it. Is it like the first thing you think of in the morning?"

wannaknowitall, who the hell do you think you are to tell me what threads to post in. If I chose to post 1000 times and only on threads dealing with blacks, thats my damn business and my damn time. Also, getting a bad rep from you is comical. :lol::lol::lol:

Don't blame me because you have a problem with your blackness, blame your mother.

Halardfan
Jun 7th, 2006, 09:52 PM
I think Britain and the US are coming from different places...I think, in general the mainstream British media is a bit less politcally correct in general, than in the US...you can see it when American stars come over here and appear on show like Jonathon Ross's show, they are rather shocked at the kind of things he comes out with...I think you can cetainly get away with more here, but I don't mean racism.

Or take a show like Little Britain...that show kinda goes out out of its way to offend everyone, and Im not sure it could be shown on a mainstream US channel...

Im not a Moyles fan, and rarely listen to his show...but I think its more of an unfortunate misunderstanding than anything else. There is no comparrision to a fanatic like Limbaugh, honestly. The BBC wouldn't employ someone like that.

meyerpl
Jun 7th, 2006, 10:48 PM
That's why I don't understand why he said what he said. The DJ was supposed to be impersonating Hugh Jackman so why make reference to a "A big, fat, black guy." Hugh was white the last time I checked. :scratch: Unless the DJ was distracted by Halle's blackness. :tape:
I think I'd be distracted by Halle's beauty, not her blackness. :hearts:

I read the story three times. I don't get it. I don't understand the joke at all. I usually get jokes, but not this one. I know one thing; if I had a chance to sit down and talk to Halle Berry, I wouldn't do an impression of a "big, fat black guy". I wouldn't expect her to be impressed by that. I think my instincts would steer me more toward asking her about the movie and her career.

Dana Marcy
Jun 8th, 2006, 10:46 PM
I think Britain and the US are coming from different places...I think, in general the mainstream British media is a bit less politcally correct in general, than in the US...you can see it when American stars come over here and appear on show like Jonathon Ross's show, they are rather shocked at the kind of things he comes out with...I think you can cetainly get away with more here, but I don't mean racism.

Or take a show like Little Britain...that show kinda goes out out of its way to offend everyone, and Im not sure it could be shown on a mainstream US channel...

Im not a Moyles fan, and rarely listen to his show...but I think its more of an unfortunate misunderstanding than anything else. There is no comparrision to a fanatic like Limbaugh, honestly. The BBC wouldn't employ someone like that.

I've seen a few episodes of that show on DVD and didn't find anything offensive but then again I'm never offended by British humor.

moon
Jun 9th, 2006, 12:21 AM
This is the bad rep that I received from wannaknowitall.
"I usually don't this this myself but your last 35 posts have been on threads dealing with blacks. Six straight days of it. Is it like the first thing you think of in the morning?"

wannaknowitall, who the hell do you think you are to tell me what threads to post in. If I chose to post 1000 times and only on threads dealing with blacks, thats my damn business and my damn time. Also, getting a bad rep from you is comical. :lol::lol::lol:

Don't blame me because you have a problem with your blackness, blame your mother.

:lol: lmao