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Mother_Marjorie
May 19th, 2006, 02:30 AM
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Actress Susan Sarandon Endorses Clinton Opponent In Senate Race

POSTED: 3:27 pm EDT May 18, 2006
UPDATED: 5:01 pm EDT May 18, 2006

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NEW YORK -- Actress Susan Sarandon, a longtime liberal political activist and outspoken opponent of the Iraq war, endorsed an anti-war Democrat challenging Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election bid Tuesday.

Sarandon is backing Jonathan Tasini, a labor advocate and former president of the National Writers' Union, who has based his longshot campaign on Clinton's vote in 2002 authorizing military intervention in Iraq.

Clinton, who is widely considered the front-runner for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination if she chooses to run, has sharply criticized the Bush Administration's handling of the war. But she has also refused to call for American troops to be removed from Iraq.

Sarandon has been a harsh critic of Clinton's vote on the war, telling a British television interviewer last month that Clinton had "crumbled under the pressure of the moment." She also told ITV1 that she wasn't enthusiastic about a Clinton presidential candidacy.


Announcing Sarandon's endorsement, Tasini called the 59-year old Academy Award winner a "passionate advocate for human rights, justice and civil liberties" and said he was "honored" to have her support.

"She has never wavered when the call has come for people to stand on the front lines in support of progressive principles that affect the lives of so many people in our country," Tasini said.

Sarandon did not offer a statement of her own but an aide confirmed she was backing Tasini.

Earlier this month, Sarandon joined Clinton at a rally in Washington for the Christopher Reeve Foundation, which promotes research on spinal cord injuries. There, Sarandon offered nothing but praise for Clinton, saying "we are all very lucky to have her here today as a leader in Congress."

SelesFan70
May 19th, 2006, 03:29 AM
The kook left wingers that have become the base of the Democratic Party will never let Hillary win the nomination, most especially if Algore runs against her. He's just about kooky as most of them...just about.

timafi
May 19th, 2006, 03:30 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Scotso
May 19th, 2006, 06:47 AM
The kook left wingers that have become the base of the Democratic Party will never let Hillary win the nomination, most especially if Algore runs against her. He's just about kooky as most of them...just about.

If you really think that Hillary wouldn't get the nomination, then you're totally clueless.

And Susan Sarandon is not a Democrat. I wish the Green Party could recruit her as a Presidential candidate in 2008... I think she'd get a lot of votes.

RVD
May 19th, 2006, 06:54 AM
How Hilary could possibly alienate and erode her base is beyond me. But she has. :mad: Oh well, she wasn't expected to run in 2008 anyway. :shrug:

Mother_Marjorie
May 19th, 2006, 07:03 AM
Susan Sarandon is so far left that she makes Gingrich look liberal.

Sarandon and those like her will be to Clinton Part Deux politically what Green Party Presidental Candidate Ralph Nader was to Al Gore in 2000.

Sarandon is so anti-war that she would rather risk another four years of Republican control than support a candidate in her own party that can actually work to bring the troops home.

I think Sarandon's a great actress, but I don't like her politics. In fact, I don't like the extreme fringe of either political party, left or right.

Scotso
May 19th, 2006, 04:46 PM
Susan Sarandon is so far left that she makes Gingrich look liberal.

Sarandon and those like her will be to Clinton Part Deux politically what Green Party Presidental Candidate Ralph Nader was to Al Gore in 2000.

Sarandon is so anti-war that she would rather risk another four years of Republican control than support a candidate in her own party that can actually work to bring the troops home.

I think Sarandon's a great actress, but I don't like her politics. In fact, I don't like the extreme fringe of either political party, left or right.

A few things.

1) Your Gingrich comment makes no sense whatsoever. Sarandon being so liberal would only make Gingrich look even more conservative.

2) This is about the US Senate seat, no the Presidency. Sarandon was one of those that urged Nader not to run in 2004.

Helen Lawson
May 19th, 2006, 05:05 PM
I still can't understand why Susan Sarandon's political choices and picks makes the news. She's an actress, and believe me, and I'm one of them, we're dumb as dirt and we're only good at remembering lines and looking hot, because let's face it, that's all acting is. We can't even take credit for selecting good roles--agents do that.

OTOH, it seems Hillary's centrist leanings over the last several years are creating problems. Everyone is saying this will help her, but now, I'm wondering if it's hurting her with a lot of Democrats. There was some Hillary "scandal" about 3-4 months ago, some internal memo from a NYC gay group was leaked and really trashed her and recommended not associating with her because she hadn't done anything to help the community. In fact, the memo said something to the effect that gays needed to wake up and stop throwing money at any Democrat who asks and start only giving money to politicians who get results.

SelesFan70
May 19th, 2006, 05:14 PM
How Hilary could possibly alienate and erode her base is beyond me. But she has. :mad: Oh well, she wasn't expected to run in 2008 anyway. :shrug:

The political "middle" is not a base. ;) It's a losing strategy every time it's tried. Look at GWB's and Congress' poll numbers. When you pander to the middle, you look indecisive. People want strong leaders, with strong convictions not some wishy-washy feel good ideas.

SelesFan70
May 19th, 2006, 05:16 PM
If you really think that Hillary wouldn't get the nomination, then you're totally clueless.

And Susan Sarandon is not a Democrat. I wish the Green Party could recruit her as a Presidential candidate in 2008... I think she'd get a lot of votes.

If Algore runs (and I believe he will), Hillary will be forced to lurch to the left to keep that base, and when she does that the "Reagan Democrats" will abandon her.

It's her own fault, though. As I said, you can't play the middle in politics.

samsung101
May 19th, 2006, 07:19 PM
Do you think Hillary cares?
She's a lock for re-election.
She's the only Democratic candidate that
has a shot in 2008. The others are too
Kerry-esque. She's hoping Al Gore runs
again! She'll look very moderate if he
runs. That's her dream.

Susan Sarandon and Cindy Sheehan can
endorse the wacky 3rd and 4th party
candidates, and Hillary gains movement
to the middle and the right - even if it's
not truthful.

This is why she has postured herself
for the past few years as a moderate
publicly. When she's as left as the
Sarandon on most things. She is a smart
person. I give her that. She knows how
to play the public, and knows the media
adores her every more.

Too bad her tv show went off the air a little
early -Commander in Chief. West Wing run
is up, gee, a surprise, the Democrat beat
out the liberal Republican. Have no fear,
the same tv writers are creating more pro-Hillary
tv shows for our viewing in the fall, and the
elections.

Hollywood Left endorses Susan Sarandon
candidate, Hillary wins in the end. Hill and
Bill are not losing any sleep over the endorsement.

samsung101
May 19th, 2006, 07:25 PM
Cindy Sheehan is the same woman who said
Bill Clinton killed more people in Iraq than
George W. Bush. McCain is a warmonger.
Hillary is a warmonger. She has hugged
Hugo Chaves, who actually has an official
blacklist to fire and remove his enemies
who protested him, is destroying Jewish
places of worship, and arresting opposition
throughout the nation. This is the woman
Sarandon emulates, and more power to
her in supporting her candiates for office.

As I said, Hillary says, thank you very much.

Mother_Marjorie
May 19th, 2006, 07:31 PM
A few things.

1) Your Gingrich comment makes no sense whatsoever. Sarandon being so liberal would only make Gingrich look even more conservative.

2) This is about the US Senate seat, no the Presidency. Sarandon was one of those that urged Nader not to run in 2004.

1) No.

2) I never referred to Bush vs Kerry and the Nader Factor in 2004. I was talking about 2000.

Mother_Marjorie
May 19th, 2006, 07:32 PM
The political "middle" is not a base. ;) It's a losing strategy every time it's tried. Look at GWB's and Congress' poll numbers. When you pander to the middle, you look indecisive. People want strong leaders, with strong convictions not some wishy-washy feel good ideas.

It worked well for Bill Clinton.

SelesFan70
May 19th, 2006, 07:35 PM
It worked well for Bill Clinton.

Ross Perot worked well for BC (I can't even type his name :lol: ) the first time ;) Then a weak GOP candidate (Dole) helped the 2nd time. :p

RVD
May 19th, 2006, 08:56 PM
The political "middle" is not a base. ;) It's a losing strategy every time it's tried. Look at GWB's and Congress' poll numbers. When you pander to the middle, you look indecisive. People want strong leaders, with strong convictions not some wishy-washy feel good ideas.SelesFan70, you don't actually believe that I was referring to the Democratic "Middle" as Hilary's base, do you? Where have you been man? :lol: Read up on Hilary's Bio. She's just begun catering to the "Middle" recently [as in the past few years]. John Kerry attempted the same thing and got WAXED!
Seems both Dems and Repubs never learn. :shrug:

Incidentally...
What the heck is a Democratic Middle? :scratch:

firehorse
May 19th, 2006, 10:15 PM
If you really think that Hillary wouldn't get the nomination, then you're totally clueless.

And Susan Sarandon is not a Democrat. I wish the Green Party could recruit her as a Presidential candidate in 2008... I think she'd get a lot of votes.

Susan Sarandon is a BIG DEMOCRAT..she just did not like Hillary

JustineTime
May 21st, 2006, 06:52 PM
How Hilary could possibly alienate and erode her base is beyond me. But she has. :mad: Oh well, she wasn't expected to run in 2008 anyway. :shrug:

No doubt Hilary's losing mucho sleep about losing Sarandon's endorsement. :rolleyes: :tape:

And Hilary's crazy like a fox! :scared: :help: :scared: