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spokenword73
May 14th, 2006, 03:45 PM
I was talking to a woman who spoke English as a second language and she was mixing up the words "ask" and "tell". It dawned on me that English has lots of quirks and not that easy to learn.:confused:

Monica_Rules
May 14th, 2006, 04:00 PM
No English is probably one of the easier languages to learn but is suppose it depends what your 1st language is. As it doesn't have male/female ways in words like welsh and french its not too bad.

svetafecionado
May 14th, 2006, 04:00 PM
According to my English teacher its the most complicated language

azdaja
May 14th, 2006, 04:02 PM
it depends on what your first language is. one thing is sure, it is one of the most irregular languages in the world (some people say the most irregular in fact).

spokenword73
May 14th, 2006, 04:03 PM
No English is probably one of the easier languages to learn but is suppose it depends what your 1st language is. As it doesn't have male/female ways in words like welsh and french its not too bad.

Spanish too, has male/female nouns, pronouns, etc. English has words that are spelled differently but pronounced the same like "male" and "mail":wavey:

Tarlak
May 14th, 2006, 04:05 PM
That depends persons for me ;)

According to me, it's difficult, especially if we don't like this langage :tape:

In two years, I must to speak English perfectly or almost for my future school... It isn't gained :rolleyes:

Strangelove
May 14th, 2006, 04:05 PM
I never had much trouble. But I think it helps a great deal if you're exposed to American/British culture early on. Especially movies and television.

In high-school I usually did the grammar-thing on instinct, instead of learning the exact rules, and I pretty much got away with it :lol:

Grachka
May 14th, 2006, 04:05 PM
Apparently it's the pronunciation of words that bugger everything up.

How we came up with the pronunciation of place names like "Worcester" and "Leicester" I will never know. :lol:

iced gem
May 14th, 2006, 04:08 PM
If it were not my first language, I can imagine it being really difficult to learn all the weird pronunciations and irregularities.
I am always so impressed at non native speakers speaking English so well, whilst us Brits struggle with other languages.

Il Primo!
May 14th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Spanish too, has male/female nouns, pronouns, etc. English has words that are spelled differently but pronounced the same like "male" and "mail":wavey:

I don't agree. Is much more complicated to learn spanish than english. Well,I'm french and there are similarities between french and spanish so at the beginning,no problem. But with all this prepositions in spanish,it's getting more and more complicated. Before,I was much more good at spanish but honestly,it's not the case anymore today...
And beyond that,yes,English is very simple to learn consedering that we always heard english words at TV,when we listen to music etc.

drake3781
May 14th, 2006, 04:12 PM
That depends persons for me ;)

According to me, it's difficult, especially if we don't like this langage :tape:

In two years, I must to speak English perfectly or almost for my future school... It isn't gained :rolleyes:

I'm a little bit worried for you......... you have some work to do (no offense). Can you get into a summer class?

GoDominique
May 14th, 2006, 04:13 PM
I think the basics for simple communication are rather easy to learn.

To speak and write English correctly is pretty difficult though because the grammar is more complicated than most people think, especially times and prepositions. :o

Il Primo!
May 14th, 2006, 04:14 PM
I'm a little bit worried for you......... you have some work to do (no offense). Can you get into a summer class?
I think it's just some details to correct here and there. Keep it up! :)

spokenword73
May 14th, 2006, 04:15 PM
Yes, I agree basic communication is not difficult. I was in a Spanish speaking country recently and since I speak only a little Spanish, I did lots of pointing and acting things out...
$$$ is the universal language everyone seems to understand. :lol:

azdaja
May 14th, 2006, 04:18 PM
i did not think spanish was more difficult to learn than english.

Tarlak
May 14th, 2006, 04:18 PM
I'm a little bit worried for you......... you have some work to do (no offense). Can you get into a summer class?

A school of journalism, there is a English test, difficult I believe.

I must to learn English, it's an obligation, it's too for that I was registered in this forum.

Strangelove
May 14th, 2006, 04:19 PM
Before,I was much more good at spanish but honestly,it's not the case anymore today...I believe you were much better at Spanish ;)

Il Primo!
May 14th, 2006, 04:22 PM
I believe you were much better at Spanish ;)

:tape: dammm!!Actually I initially planed to use another word :o ! Thx for correcting me at least :kiss: I have exams to pass in english it's always positive :wavey:

drake3781
May 14th, 2006, 04:43 PM
A school of journalism, there is a English test, difficult I believe.

I must to learn English, it's an obligation, it's too for that I was registered in this forum.

Yes!

I mean, can you find a good summer English class convenient to you in France? Even if you have to get a job to pay for it.

I say this because I don't want you to be blocked by not possessing good English skills, and you have quite a ways to go before doing well on a test.

Tarlak
May 14th, 2006, 04:50 PM
These schools are very expensive... I will work this summer but I don't have enough money...

I will speak a good English owing to this forum, I'm sure :o I'm 2 years to learn, I have time ;)

svetafecionado
May 14th, 2006, 04:53 PM
These schools are very expensive... I will work this summer but I don't have enough money...

I will speak a good English owing to this forum, I'm sure :o I'm 2 years to learn, I have time ;)

Maybe you could try watching more english movies and programs. That might help. :)

Reuchlin
May 14th, 2006, 05:15 PM
Just like any language there are easier parts, and parts that are harder to learn. Articles are particularly hard to learn for some people.

Tarlak
May 14th, 2006, 05:24 PM
Maybe you could try watching more english movies and programs. That might help. :)

I know, I know, I envisaged to do it ;)

smiler
May 14th, 2006, 05:27 PM
If it were not my first language, I can imagine it being really difficult to learn all the weird pronunciations and irregularities.
I am always so impressed at non native speakers speaking English so well, whilst us Brits struggle with other languages.

Yeah me too! I have loads of respect for people who can speak more than one language. :worship:

I also find it amazing how bad some native English speakers are at English. Especially mistakes like, there, their, and they're, native English speakers simply shouldn't be getting this kind of thing wrong!

LoveFifteen
May 14th, 2006, 05:35 PM
It all just depends on what your native language is. A Swede will find Norwegian "easier" than Portuguese whereas a Spaniard will find Portuguese "easier" than Norwegian.

That being said English has a few characteristics that make it simpler than many other European languages. The verb conjugation is relatively simple and the language lacks complicated rules of gender, case and declention. I think the hardest parts of English are the terrible spelling and phrasal verbs.

White Stripes
May 14th, 2006, 05:38 PM
i found english easy to learn....especially if you compare the grammar to the grammars of other languages, english is less complicated

jrm
May 14th, 2006, 05:41 PM
Pretty easy cause the stracture of the language isn't hard!

You should trying learing Slovenian language - probably the most complex language structure in the world!

requiem
May 14th, 2006, 06:08 PM
Well, it depends on your 1st language.
English is very, very difficult when it comes to reading and writing. I've learned frentch and they have rules so you cant make a mistake when it comes to reading. Also as far as I know this applies to italian and spanish. On the other hand grammar isn't all that bad and i think it was easier to me than the frentch one, but to be honest i never liked learning frentch because i never thoutgh i need third language.

And just one more thing. Grammar in my language is complicated but i am certain that when it comes to reading and writting it is the simplest language anywhere in the world

Tylane
May 14th, 2006, 06:31 PM
It's a simple language, easy orthograph, easy grammar, I suppose it's one of the easier languages to learn but the fact is I'm very bad in foreign languages so even english is hard for me.
But german and french are harder I think.
I'm more at ease with spanich and other latin languages because of the similitudes.

QuicKyMonSter
May 14th, 2006, 07:02 PM
Not really... It's quite easy in terms of having a conversation and all that... Words are so short :) ...comparing to German :tape:
However, German is much easier to read, since you always read what's on the paper and don't have to think about the word... in English, you have many different sounds for the same combination of letters..e.g.: heart, break, thread, breathe...

I thought Spanish was easy..:confused: and what's so difficult about the prepositions? :scratch:

Wintermute
May 14th, 2006, 07:04 PM
I imagine English is a very difficult language to learn unless you are exposed to it from a young age. I actually think this is why the British themselves are so bad at learning other languages; my experience was that I wasn't taught a foreign language until I reached secondary school by which time it was, in some respects, too late. English is so pervasive around the world, through music and movies, that I guess people in other countries are exposed to it even unintentionally.

English is a Germanic language that got mixed with French influences later on. I guess the result has been that the English vocabulary is very large. There are several words which have the same basic meaning but with subtle differences and I imagine it's very hard for a foreign speaker to know which word to choose for their particular situation. Also, the grammar contains many idiosyncracies which complicates everything.

I am in great admiration of those who have mastered English as a second language.

iPatty
May 14th, 2006, 07:26 PM
Well, my Spanish teacher thought learning English was hard because we have all kinds of different pronunciations of vowels. Whereas in Spanish, vowels are always said the same way.

I suppose it would be hard to learn. It would mostly depend on your first language, and how similar it is to English.

tennislover
May 14th, 2006, 07:31 PM
well if you have to translate the sentence: "the pen is on the table", that is not difficult; if you have to have a speech about e.g. "the environment problems" is not easy at all......

crazillo
May 14th, 2006, 07:40 PM
I think it's not that difficult.

Speaking perfect English is very hard for foreigners, as it is to speak perfect German for non-Germans for instance.

I think that practicing English in foreign countries is the best way to improve your skills, not in school or something like that...

Wiggly
May 14th, 2006, 08:11 PM
It's not as hard as French :p

swissmisshingis
May 14th, 2006, 11:38 PM
English is not my first language, but i think english is the easiest language to learn, simply because you can hear it almost everywhere.

Dominic
May 15th, 2006, 12:07 AM
Spanish too, has male/female nouns, pronouns, etc. English has words that are spelled differently but pronounced the same like "male" and "mail":wavey:
There are those kinds of words in just about every language. For exemple in french, the word "vert" is pronounced like "ver" "verre" and "vers" and they all mean different things. English is actually one of the easiest languages to learn, I thought that was a well known fact internationally.

njnetswill
May 15th, 2006, 12:20 AM
For just speaking it, English is actually pretty easy to learn. The problem with english is that it borrows so much from other languages that there is no uniform way to pronounce letters/words.

English is much easier to learn than other lanuguages like Chinese, Arabic and Russian.

Sam L
May 15th, 2006, 12:25 AM
I was talking to a woman who spoke English as a second language and she was mixing up the words "ask" and "tell". It dawned on me that English has lots of quirks and not that easy to learn.:confused:
It is an easy language to learn. BUT like you said it has a lot of quirks, idiosyncracies and exceptions which makes it complicated on a higher level usage.

If you want to know basic English to function, it's easy. But if you're doing studying English language and literature, it becomes hell.

One reason for this is the incredibly large vocabulary - see Oxford English Dictionary. Another is the widespread of English around the world and the many "Englishes". Idioms and idiosyncracies make it a hard language.

adam_ads_n
May 15th, 2006, 12:25 AM
English is easy...unless you have a row with an Australian woman from WTA communication staff :lol:

Fingon
May 15th, 2006, 04:02 AM
well, it's difficult to say.

One of the biggest problems seems to be pronunciation, however, with all the movies, songs etc that should not be that hard.

My mother tongue is Spanish, I learnt English but now I live in Canada so I basically speak English all the time.

There are two things I have always found pretty hard.

The prepositions is one, when to use at, in, on, over, from, that's one case where the lack of rules makes it more difficult.

The other combined verbs (I know there is a name for them but can't remember :o ), like play down, close out, get on, get off, set off, I used to have a lot of problems with that at the beginning.

Another problem I personally had is because Spanish is a phonetic language, meaning it's pronounced the same way it's written, I used to do the same in English some times, and use words based on their phonetic and not their meaning.

I think I am over those problems now, although I still make mistakes.

Brooklyn90
May 15th, 2006, 04:26 AM
there are some confusing words, but i would say depending on the person that it is probally easy to learn, i've taked frech and spanish and i find them hard to learn

MisterQ
May 15th, 2006, 05:27 AM
As some others have said... I'd say it's relatively easy to learn, but quite hard to perfect.

Vincent
May 15th, 2006, 05:37 AM
:sad: Nothing is easy for me.

tfannis
May 15th, 2006, 08:23 AM
Dutch (my mother tongue) is also a Germanic language, that helps ;) French should be my second language, but my English is better :shrug: The fact that every noun can be preceded by "the" and "a(n)", instead of "le" or "la" and "un" or "une" is a very helpful rule :lol: That, and Hollywood of course ;) :p

propi
May 15th, 2006, 10:01 AM
I don't think it's hard, of course it's hard to achieve a perfect level as any other tongue, but in general latin languages (French, Italian, Spanish, etc.) are more difficult and I imagine that Northern European languages must be just a mess to learn :o

Vut
May 15th, 2006, 10:06 AM
I thinks it depend on the person. I'm not good in English but I think its not too hard to learn!

Prizeidiot
May 15th, 2006, 10:42 AM
Actually, I think English is a hard language to learn in comparison with a lot of European languages, such as French, Italian and Spanish. The European languages all have patterns, but English has so many exceptions to rules it's just not funny. Sometimes you sort of ad lib things.

Anyway, that's what my Italian teachers used to say to me when I was younger