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neptuneslims
May 12th, 2006, 03:55 PM
I'm doing some research on this, and thought I'd post a thread...

Does anyone know a compulsive liar?

Anyone a compulsive liar themselves? Any stories to tell?

*JR*
May 12th, 2006, 04:19 PM
Does anyone know a compulsive liar?

Yeah. Rainer Hofmann, the Peppermint Puppetmeister. ;)

furrykitten
May 12th, 2006, 04:21 PM
Can anyone honestly say they do not lie?

Paneru
May 12th, 2006, 05:03 PM
I do know a comulsive lair.

He lies about everything! Even the most
insignificant thing for no apparent reason
other than for the attention.

neptuneslims
May 12th, 2006, 05:07 PM
Yeah. Rainer Hofmann, the Peppermint Puppetmeister. ;)

:lol: who's that?

Yeah, I'm talking about the kind of person who lies all the time.

neptuneslims
May 12th, 2006, 05:08 PM
Can anyone honestly say they do not lie?

I can't remember the last time I lied.. but of course I have lied before.

SelesFan70
May 12th, 2006, 05:10 PM
I'm a compulsive layer... :lol:

Grachka
May 12th, 2006, 05:12 PM
Can anyone honestly say they do not lie?
No, of course not, but compulsive lying is entirely different from lying occasionally.

I know someone that does just that, it's as if he cannot help it. It's actually very difficult to know how to deal with it, because you know when he is doing it, and he knows that you know when he does it. It helps to look at it more as an affliction, because he probably hates it about himself, and it's easier to empathise with an 'illness' per se, however psychological it is. And every time that I've confronted him about it he gets very defensive and it only leads to bad feeling. He's clearly got self-confidence issues, and it means that he lies about himself to make himself feel better, and to impress others so that he feels better about himself. There is no need for it, and we've told him, but he just denies it blindly.

I just tend to let him get on with it now, and it's a shame because we were once really good friends.

smiler
May 12th, 2006, 06:43 PM
I know 3! I've had troubles with two of them, but I was wise to the 3rd, we get along fine now, I just assume that every single word they say is a lie, nod, smile, and keep them at arms length.

*JR*
May 12th, 2006, 06:45 PM
:lol: who's that?

Yeah, I'm talking about the kind of person who lies all the time.
The Strange Suissie's husband, who "rescued her" from the "other Rainer" (aka the orange juice guru) back in '99.

controlfreak
May 12th, 2006, 07:11 PM
I sometimes lie accidentally, but only when I feel people are being rude and asking nosey questions. I wouldn't call it compulsive. But I reckon I've told way more of these lies than pre-planned lies.

I do know some people who invented whole fake stories just to make themselves seem more interesting. Those people are weird, and scare me.

Helen Lawson
May 12th, 2006, 07:38 PM
I do know a comulsive lair.

He lies about everything! Even the most
insignificant thing for no apparent reason
other than for the attention.

That's exactly like the one I know. She lies about the dumbest stuff for no reason at all. All the time, for no reason.

Denise4925
May 12th, 2006, 08:30 PM
No, of course not, but compulsive lying is entirely different from lying occasionally.

I know someone that does just that, it's as if he cannot help it. It's actually very difficult to know how to deal with it, because you know when he is doing it, and he knows that you know when he does it. It helps to look at it more as an affliction, because he probably hates it about himself, and it's easier to empathise with an 'illness' per se, however psychological it is. And every time that I've confronted him about it he gets very defensive and it only leads to bad feeling. He's clearly got self-confidence issues, and it means that he lies about himself to make himself feel better, and to impress others so that he feels better about himself. There is no need for it, and we've told him, but he just denies it blindly.

I just tend to let him get on with it now, and it's a shame because we were once really good friends.
I had a very close friend like that. I think he's narcissistic and I think that causes him to lie like that too. Anyway, needless to say, we are no longer friends. I had the same problem with him getting defensive about me confronting him about the lies. I told him that when he lies like that, everyone knows he's lying and its embarrassing, but he couldn't see it or didn't want to. :shrug: It's very sad.

rebel_ffighter
May 12th, 2006, 08:44 PM
I had a friend like that,they do it because they want to build an image,they dont know they would be better if they didnt lie

Tennisballova
May 12th, 2006, 08:49 PM
I saw this once on the Oprah show. This woman eventually ended up in jail! Very sad. Here's the link to that episode (it has a video clip) maybe it can tell you more about this topic. http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200503/tows_past_20050301.jhtml

ico4498
May 12th, 2006, 09:18 PM
i remember reading somewhere that compulsive liars tended to have better than average recall skills ... guess to keep all the stories straight.

not this person i knew though, its pretty bad when you lie without rhyme or reason, terrible if yah can't remember who yah told what & when. this guy if his lips were moving you could be pretty confident he was lying.

for three straight days he told me, "had my dog's ears cropped today." finally i asked him, "why, do they keep growing back?"

Mother_Marjorie
May 12th, 2006, 09:31 PM
I will sometimes lie to spare others feelings.

Sometimes not.

tennislover
May 12th, 2006, 09:48 PM
a compulsive liar?

This one
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Bill_Clinton.jpg/200px-Bill_Clinton.jpg

Denise4925
May 12th, 2006, 10:19 PM
i remember reading somewhere that compulsive liars tended to have better than average recall skills ... guess to keep all the stories straight.

not this person i knew though, its pretty bad when you lie without rhyme or reason, terrible if yah can't remember who yah told what & when. this guy if his lips were moving you could be pretty confident he was lying.

for three straight days he told me, "had my dog's ears cropped today." finally i asked him, "why, do they keep growing back?"
:spit:

Grachka
May 12th, 2006, 10:26 PM
It can be a bit uncomfortable when they are 'exposed'. I once lost my patience with my friend, because he kept claiming to have read every book that anyone mentioned, to look intelligent. I said: "OK, fine, who are the main characters?", in front of everyone. He mumbled something about having forgotten it, and I felt bad for a week afterwards.

Denise4925
May 12th, 2006, 10:33 PM
It can be a bit uncomfortable when they are 'exposed'. I once lost my patience with my friend, because he kept claiming to have read every book that anyone mentioned, to look intelligent. I said: "OK, fine, who are the main characters?", in front of everyone. He mumbled something about having forgotten it, and I felt bad for a week afterwards.
:lol: That was mean, but funny and he deserved it.

Grachka
May 12th, 2006, 10:37 PM
:lol: That was mean, but funny and he deserved it.
I am a mean person. :devil:

He never discussed the book again though. :tape:

Tennisballova
May 12th, 2006, 10:48 PM
a compulsive liar?

This one
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Bill_Clinton.jpg/200px-Bill_Clinton.jpg
Hmmm, I was actually thinking of George W. Bush...

selesfan1
May 12th, 2006, 11:47 PM
I have a friend who i think is a compulsive Liar. If you tell her something good that happened to you she always comes up with a better story. We have also caught her in lies like she said once a friend of ours called here every day for a month and this friend doesn't even have her number. and a bunch of stupid stuff like that.

tennislover
May 13th, 2006, 11:19 AM
Hmmm, I was actually thinking of George W. Bush...
:ras:

Paneru
May 13th, 2006, 01:20 PM
Hmmm, I was actually thinking of George W. Bush...

DITTO!

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00215/george_w__bush_215960a.jpg

:devil: :devil: :devil:

neptuneslims
May 13th, 2006, 01:37 PM
The Strange Suissie's husband, who "rescued her" from the "other Rainer" (aka the orange juice guru) back in '99.
Ah, I'm with you now. That was one bizarre situation.

Ilikebigboobies
May 13th, 2006, 01:55 PM
I'm doing some research on this, and thought I'd post a thread...

Does anyone know a compulsive liar?

Anyone a compulsive liar themselves? Any stories to tell?

How are you going to tell if someone is telling the truth whenn they say they are a compulsive liar...
For example, if I was a compulsive liar I wouldn't say I am a compulsive liar because that is telling the truth and a compulsive liar would not tell the truth...however that means that only a non-compulsive liar would say they are a compulsive liar which in itself is a lie which would make them a liar so therefore they are telling the truth and not really lying which actually doesn't make them a liar.:confused:

meyerpl
May 13th, 2006, 05:11 PM
How are you going to tell if someone is telling the truth whenn they say they are a compulsive liar...
For example, if I was a compulsive liar I wouldn't say I am a compulsive liar because that is telling the truth and a compulsive liar would not tell the truth...however that means that only a non-compulsive liar would say they are a compulsive liar which in itself is a lie which would make them a liar so therefore they are telling the truth and not really lying which actually doesn't make them a liar.:confused:
That's a lie!

meyerpl
May 13th, 2006, 05:12 PM
It's been said that the only time you can be sure politicians are telling the truth is when they're calling each other liars.

vogus
May 13th, 2006, 08:08 PM
Ah, I'm with you now. That was one bizarre situation.


if you're saying "was", as in past tense, you're definitely not with him.

vogus
May 13th, 2006, 08:17 PM
I had a big crush on a compulsive liar once. She told me all this amazing stuff about herself and i was so impressed. It just kept getting better and better. I thought she was my dream woman come to life. One day my brother came into town to visit me. I was at work, so i asked Annya (the girl) to take him to lunch to keep him entertained until i finished. That night i met my brother and said, how was lunch with Annya? And he answered, "she told me a bunch of twisted stories and she's obviously a pathological liar". My jaw just dropped open because i realized he was right and it had never even occured to me before. I never returned Annya's calls or saw her again. I was completely freaked out.

RVD
May 13th, 2006, 08:35 PM
:lol: I wouldn't say that my oldest son is 'compulsive' yet, but boy does he do it frequently. Moreover, he compounds it with supporting lies and will then will lie about the lie by saying he just didn't mention a fact or two because it was never brought up. :eek: :haha:
I see it as the typical response of a teen. :lol:

neptuneslims
May 14th, 2006, 09:54 AM
if you're saying "was", as in past tense, you're definitely not with him.
:lol: I guess not... I thought she had been rescued from the juice coach by another coach, but was now free of them both???

Where can I get the full story??

Was the coach really a liar?

I assume that compulsive liars CAN be truthful sometimes, so might admit that they were lying occasionally. I mean if they're drinking some juice and you say "hey, is that juice?" they may well say yes. I thought they mainly lie about fairly big things... like their job, or family or whatever. Or do they lie about insignificant things also?

*JR*
May 14th, 2006, 02:31 PM
:lol: I guess not... I thought she had been rescued from the juice coach by another coach, but was now free of them both???

Where can I get the full story??

Was the coach really a liar?

No, the rescuer left his pregnant wife for PP, and they got married 4 years later. (His first wife had to fight 2 years in court, including forcing a DNA paternity test, just to get regular child support). You wanted some more info, so:

http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=81092

neptuneslims
May 14th, 2006, 04:49 PM
Thanks JR, I appreciate the link :wavey:

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 14th, 2006, 06:35 PM
It can be a bit uncomfortable when they are 'exposed'. I once lost my patience with my friend, because he kept claiming to have read every book that anyone mentioned, to look intelligent. I said: "OK, fine, who are the main characters?", in front of everyone. He mumbled something about having forgotten it, and I felt bad for a week afterwards.

Ahahahaaaaaaa.

Well, my partner-in-crime, Tina, and I, are friends with a compulsive liar. But now we have documented the red flags when she is telling one of her elaborate lies. The biggest one is that whenever she lies, she'll stroke a strand of her hair behind her left ear.

mykarma
May 14th, 2006, 07:14 PM
i remember reading somewhere that compulsive liars tended to have better than average recall skills ... guess to keep all the stories straight.

not this person i knew though, its pretty bad when you lie without rhyme or reason, terrible if yah can't remember who yah told what & when. this guy if his lips were moving you could be pretty confident he was lying.

for three straight days he told me, "had my dog's ears cropped today." finally i asked him, "why, do they keep growing back?"
I had a friend many years ago that lied all of the time. She was such a funny person that you had to love her. If someone caught her she'd say"you were a fool to believe me. You know I lie". :lol:

I wonder what happened to her. She was so much fun. No inhibitions at all. If you weren't pissed off at her, you were laughing at something she did.

iPatty
May 14th, 2006, 07:22 PM
Well, I don't know any true, compulsive liars. But I do have plenty of friends who lie a lot. My best friend lies all the time to get out of situations, but it's hilarious. It's easy for me to tell when he's lying because he's so read-able.

One time, he told our tennis coach that he watched this documentary we were supposed to watch, but he didn't. So I asked him, "Oh, really? What was the guy's name that was talking?" He looked red in the face but our tennis coach never noticed. He just walked away, never knowing that my friend never watched it. So, I didn't feel too bad.