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esquímaux
May 11th, 2006, 12:22 PM
Isn't it ironic that Martina staged her come back as the Williams sisters' strangle hold on women's tennis loosened? :confused: Also I know some of ya'll like to sip on that hatorade spiked with crunk juice:tape:, so no haters please :wavey:

Chrysanthemum
May 11th, 2006, 12:24 PM
well, ur a hater urself....thats what i think ironic !

GoDominique
May 11th, 2006, 12:24 PM
Didn't their "strangle hold" loosen about 30 months ago? :scratch:

Hingie
May 11th, 2006, 12:25 PM
I'm not sure the Williams sisters had much to do with it. From what i've read, Marti was more interested in the fact that the same people who were ruling with her a few years ago are the same ones ruling today (except for Sharapova).

She figured that if they can maintain it, why not her?

Although i don't buy the fact the injury forced her out of the game, it may have contributed to it but it wasn't the entire reason she left. It was getting difficult and she lost interest.

esquímaux
May 11th, 2006, 12:26 PM
well, ur a hater urself....thats what i think ironic !Who moi? Put down the crack pipe hon :kiss:

lukehingis
May 11th, 2006, 12:36 PM
well... i think the William sisters rise was one of the main reasons other tha her injury that she retired. I think the beatings they would have given her in 2002 to 2003 would have been too much for her confidence. So I guess it's good that she left. But in 2004, with the Russians winining the slams, her plans for a comeback hatched....

Chrysanthemum
May 11th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Who moi? Put down the crack pipe hon :kiss:

:)

TonyP
May 11th, 2006, 12:47 PM
All I know is, she began the comeback in Australia and both Williams sisters were there at the AO, too. Heck, Serena was defending champion, so Martina had no reason to believe she would be an early round casuality, or that Venus would go out in the first round. Venus had won Wimbledon the previous summer.

Martian Stacey
May 11th, 2006, 01:21 PM
All I know is, she began the comeback in Australia and both Williams sisters were there at the AO, too. Heck, Serena was defending champion, so Martina had no reason to believe she would be an early round casuality, or that Venus would go out in the first round. Venus had won Wimbledon the previous summer.
you make a good point here ;)

though Serena and Venus were not exactly at the top of tennis when Martina returned.

Billabong
May 11th, 2006, 01:23 PM
All I know is, she began the comeback in Australia and both Williams sisters were there at the AO, too. Heck, Serena was defending champion, so Martina had no reason to believe she would be an early round casuality, or that Venus would go out in the first round. Venus had won Wimbledon the previous summer.

sooo true:yeah:

AsGoodAsNew
May 11th, 2006, 01:40 PM
well... i think the William sisters rise was one of the main reasons other tha her injury that she retired. I think the beatings they would have given her in 2002 to 2003 would have been too much for her confidence. So I guess it's good that she left. But in 2004, with the Russians winining the slams, her plans for a comeback hatched....
I totally agree with this theory. It is good Hingis left when she did or she could have been absolutely destroyed.

Maybe this is what Serena is doing - getting herself refreshed so to speak.

lizchris
May 11th, 2006, 01:43 PM
All I know is, she began the comeback in Australia and both Williams sisters were there at the AO, too. Heck, Serena was defending champion, so Martina had no reason to believe she would be an early round casuality, or that Venus would go out in the first round. Venus had won Wimbledon the previous summer.


That's why she came back. With Venus winning her fifth Grand Slam, she tied Martina in the amount of Grand Slams won. I think Martina came back to win that 6th so that she can still be ahead of Venus, but I think Venus will win her 6th Grand Slam before Martina does.

Sam L
May 11th, 2006, 02:04 PM
That's not an irony! Unless if you've been listening to too much Alanis Morissette. :p

vwfan
May 11th, 2006, 02:16 PM
All players measure the state of their game by how they play against the Williams sisters. They are the standard and the motivation by which a lot of players set their own goals. They are the best and most accomplished players on tour, so it's only natural.

I do think that Martina saw how well Mary and Davenport did in 2005 and probably concluded that she could be competitive again. The Williams were not as much a threat, Venus was struggling to bring her game together and Serena wasn't playing much. So why not, she has a pretty decent game even in today's world of power tennis as her comeback has shown.

Whatever reason, I'm glad she's back. It adds some spice!

Hingie
May 11th, 2006, 02:18 PM
All players measure the state of their game by how they play against the Williams sisters. They are the standard and the motivation by which a lot of players set their own goals. They are the best and most accomplished players on tour, so it's only natural.

I do think that Martina saw how well Mary and Davenport did in 2005 and probably concluded that she could be competitive again. The Williams were not as much a threat, Venus was struggling to bring her game together and Serena wasn't playing much. So why not, she has a pretty decent game even in today's world of power tennis as her comeback has shown.

Whatever reason, I'm glad she's back. It adds some spice!

She has a pretty decent game huh? She can hit shots Vee and Rena can only dream of. She just gets overpowered every now and then. :p

ezekiel
May 11th, 2006, 02:29 PM
Isn't it ironic that Martina staged her come back as the Williams sisters' strangle hold on women's tennis loosened? :confused: Also I know some of ya'll like to sip on that hatorade spiked with crunk juice:tape:, so no haters please :wavey:

Your post raises 2 questions

is Martina going to rule now like it's 1997 :confused:

If your theory is right why not comeback in 2003, 2004 or 2005

Martian Willow
May 11th, 2006, 02:38 PM
That's why she came back. With Venus winning her fifth Grand Slam, she tied Martina in the amount of Grand Slams won. I think Martina came back to win that 6th so that she can still be ahead of Venus, but I think Venus will win her 6th Grand Slam before Martina does.

Lets not forget Martina played Pattaya last year, and WTT after that. :)

I wouldn't say its ironic, just...fortunate.

vwfan
May 11th, 2006, 02:46 PM
She has a pretty decent game huh? She can hit shots Vee and Rena can only dream of. She just gets overpowered every now and then. :pok! :lol:

The problem is that those shots she can hit "that Venus and Rena can only dream of" get returned to her most often with interest. And she will get overpowered more often than she will hit shots that Venus and Serena can't get to!

In today's game, she's a top twenty player--no doubt. Maybe even top ten with Schnyder and Dementieva and even Petrova in the top ten, it's not like the gold standard anymore. But against the best players: the Williams, the Belgiums, Maria, Davenport (add Mary and Momo), I don't see her game holding up most of the time. Sorry!

Veritas
May 11th, 2006, 03:26 PM
That's why she came back. With Venus winning her fifth Grand Slam, she tied Martina in the amount of Grand Slams won. I think Martina came back to win that 6th so that she can still be ahead of Venus, but I think Venus will win her 6th Grand Slam before Martina does.

That could be a reason, though I if that was the case, it's more likely Martina would've been inspired by the Williams' wins in Australian and Britain, and Mary's revival.

Hopefully Monica will also take the opportunity to make another comeback.

LoveFifteen
May 11th, 2006, 04:11 PM
Lets not forget Martina played Pattaya last year, and WTT after that. :)

I wouldn't say its ironic, just...fortunate.

Yes, Martina's been hatching this return since Pattaya. She got beaten by someone crappy there and realized she'd need to train and work at a lot more before attempting to return.

She's back now. I wish Serena would come back now so they could play each other again. They're my two favorites!

spencercarlos
May 11th, 2006, 04:32 PM
All players measure the state of their game by how they play against the Williams sisters. They are the standard and the motivation by which a lot of players set their own goals. They are the best and most accomplished players on tour, so it's only natural.

I do think that Martina saw how well Mary and Davenport did in 2005 and probably concluded that she could be competitive again. The Williams were not as much a threat, Venus was struggling to bring her game together and Serena wasn't playing much. So why not, she has a pretty decent game even in today's world of power tennis as her comeback has shown.

Whatever reason, I'm glad she's back. It adds some spice!
Pretty decent? :lol:
Amazing if you consider the number of top 10/20/25 wins after 4 years abscense. Simply amazing after her game was considered outdated after 2002´s retirement.

WF4EVER
May 11th, 2006, 05:22 PM
I don't know about Hatorade but the crunk juice has been spilling in here for months.

And why not a little weed to spice it up? :smoke: Then we'll all be high and irie.

Light-skinned Girl
May 11th, 2006, 05:24 PM
Isn't it ironic that Martina staged her come back as the Williams sisters' strangle hold on women's tennis loosened? :confused: Also I know some of ya'll like to sip on that hatorade spiked with crunk juice:tape:, so no haters please :wavey:

:yawn: Erm, why are you trying to disguise your hate with this allegedly sincere question? :zzz: