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Aquanetta
Apr 25th, 2006, 06:26 PM
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G1Player2
Apr 25th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Agatha Christie wrote a book called Ten Little ******s? :lol:

Some of the stuff may be seen as offensive but the rap albums didn't bother me.

Aquanetta
Apr 25th, 2006, 06:46 PM
Some of the stuff may be seen as offensive but the rap albums didn't bother me.

Of course not. You were desensitized by that time.

G1Player2
Apr 25th, 2006, 06:51 PM
Of course not. You were desensitized by that time.

So, did the rap albums displaying the word "nigga" or when they use the word nigga in their songs, bother you?

Aquanetta
Apr 25th, 2006, 06:59 PM
So, did the rap albums displaying the word "nigga" or when they use the word nigga in their songs, bother you?

Yes and yes. Our community can't have it both ways. Either it's offensive or it isn't. It can't be both. From this perspective there is nothing endearing about the N-word.

GrandSlam05
Apr 25th, 2006, 07:02 PM
Agatha Christie wrote a book called Ten Little ******s? :lol:

Some of the stuff may be seen as offensive but the rap albums didn't bother me.
No, it was called "Ten Little Indians". Now called "And Then There Were None". It's an awesome book too LOL, but has nothing to do with indians.

CooCooCachoo
Apr 25th, 2006, 07:15 PM
I read a text once on how Agatha Christie's book was really offensive to some people :lol:

Very interesting to see how the word is actually just a capitalist expression!

kiwifan
Apr 25th, 2006, 07:22 PM
Yes and yes. Our community can't have it both ways. Either it's offensive or it isn't. It can't be both. From this perspective there is nothing endearing about the N-word.

Does reality enter into this analysis? :p

Reality seems to indicate that people can have it both ways, can be offended depending on the context of the use and therefor it can be both.

And its not just limited to blacks, all ethnic groups say things to and about themselves that they would be offended by if an outsider said the same thing.

Its human nature. ;)

Aquanetta
Apr 25th, 2006, 07:41 PM
Does reality enter into this analysis? :p

Reality seems to indicate that people can have it both ways, can be offended depending on the context of the use and therefor it can be both.

And its not just limited to blacks, all ethnic groups say things to and about themselves that they would be offended by if an outsider said the same thing.

Its human nature. ;)

That’s the Catch-22 for our community. Some of us despise it and some of us embrace it and some of us are on the fence. Either way, from this vantage point, it’s not a word that is beneficial to anyone on any level (read: you're not doing yourself any favors by calling yourself or someone else an N-word). As I read somewhere, you don’t hear Puerto Ricans saying “what’s up my Spic” or the Chinese community addressing each other as “my chink”…

Wigglytuff
Apr 25th, 2006, 07:49 PM
with dates and context this really is more mis-information than anything else. not to mention major gaps in dates when the images where produced.

No, it was called "Ten Little Indians". Now called "And Then There Were None". It's an awesome book too LOL, but has nothing to do with indians.
case in point
nope. the book was originally called ten little ******s. so yes Agatha Christie did write a book called ten little ******s.

not only that it was adapted for film a number of times, including by christie herself, as And Then There Were None in 1945 and again in 1974; and also filmed as Ten Little Indians in 1959 (for tv), 1965, 1974, 1989 and as Ten Little ******s in 1987.

Aquanetta
Apr 25th, 2006, 07:52 PM
with dates and context this really is more mis-information than anything else. not to mention major gaps in dates when the images where produced.

I meant to do that but I couldn’t be bothered. The images range from the 1880’s to 2002.

kiwifan
Apr 25th, 2006, 07:58 PM
That’s the Catch-22 for our community. Some of us despise it and some of us embrace it and some of us are on the fence. Either way, from this vantage point, it’s not a word that is beneficial to anyone on any level (read: you're not doing yourself any favors by calling yourself or someone else an N-word). As I read somewhere, you don’t hear Puerto Ricans saying “what’s up my Spic” or the Chinese community addressing each other as “my chink”…

I've seen Puerto Ricans refer to each other as spics and I had a Chinese American team mate who used the word chink all the time. :shrug:

There's a difference between Puerto Ricans on the corner talking shit and the head of some Puerto Rican - American organization; once again, context.

I'm in no way saying that the use of the dreaded "N-word" should be endorsed, ratified and given the gold seal of approval - but my friends of every ethnic stripe have used slurs towards their own people. Its more of a professional/public life v informal amongst friends/private life.

Most young Jews, I know use Hebe all the time now, its not even a slur any more from their perspective...of course I'm sure if some WASP industrialist referred to them as Hebes, they'd get pissed and the ADL would do their thing. :lol:

Once again, context. ;)

Aquanetta
Apr 25th, 2006, 08:03 PM
I've seen Puerto Ricans refer to each other as spics and I had a Chinese American team mate who use the word chink all the time. :shrug:

There's a difference between Puerto Ricans on the corner talking shit and the head of some Puerto Rican - American organization; once again, context.

I'm in no way saying that the use of the dreaded "N-word" should be endorsed, ratified and given the gold seal of approval - but my friends of every ethnic stripe have used slurs towards their own people. Its more of a professional/public life v informal amongst friends/private life.

Most young Jews, I know use Hebe all the time now, its not even a slur any more from their perspective...of course I'm sure if some WASP industrialist referred to them as Hebes, they'd get pissed and the ADL would do their thing. :lol:

Once again, context. ;)

I get it. The difference, though, is that “Hebe” and “Chink” (and "Nip", "Flip", "Wop" and "Dago") don’t consistently have a negative visual to accompany the epithet; the N-word does.

Aquanetta
Apr 25th, 2006, 08:06 PM
In other words, Kiwifan, some faction of our population would have some trouble conjuring up an image of a “Hebe” but ask them to describe an “N-Word” and, well, you know…

Reuchlin
Apr 25th, 2006, 08:24 PM
Agatha Christie wrote a book called Ten Little ******s? :lol:

Some of the stuff may be seen as offensive but the rap albums didn't bother me.
ya, you can get it here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CEL8SW/sr=8-1/qid=1145993006/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-4870937-5920613?%5Fencoding=UTF8

GrandSlam05
Apr 25th, 2006, 08:42 PM
After all the use of the N-word by the black community, it is still a really offensive word. I don't think the desensitizing has worked very well.
In fact, some people see the use of it by the black community as them embracing it and "wanting to be called" the N-word. So I don't think its casual use is a good thing.

CJ07
Apr 25th, 2006, 08:44 PM
Yes and yes. Our community can't have it both ways. Either it's offensive or it isn't. It can't be both. From this perspective there is nothing endearing about the N-word.
so glad you said that.

Dana Marcy
Apr 25th, 2006, 11:37 PM
After all the use of the N-word by the black community, it is still a really offensive word. I don't think the desensitizing has worked very well.
In fact, some people see the use of it by the black community as them embracing it and "wanting to be called" the N-word. So I don't think its casual use is a good thing.

:yeah: The word is NOT welcome in our house because there's nothing positive about it. Don't get me wrong I know that SOME people who use it casually are not caught up in the word and I understand the whole taking away its power mentality. I just don't like being reduced to something that used to mean less than a complete person. As a woman I can take the "B" and the "C" word and any adjective you wanna throw before it but don't even go there with "N" word.

Aquanetta
Apr 26th, 2006, 05:35 PM
:yeah: The word is NOT welcome in our house because there's nothing positive about it. Don't get me wrong I know that SOME people who use it casually are not caught up in the word and I understand the whole taking away its power mentality. I just don't like being reduced to something that used to mean less than a complete person. As a woman I can take the "B" and the "C" word and any adjective you wanna throw before it but don't even go there with "N" word.

Bitch and **** are as intolerable as the N-word. There is no degree of separation; they're all repulsive in their own unique way.

SelesFan70
Apr 26th, 2006, 05:48 PM
I've seen Puerto Ricans refer to each other as spics and I had a Chinese American team mate who used the word chink all the time. :shrug:

There's a difference between Puerto Ricans on the corner talking shit and the head of some Puerto Rican - American organization; once again, context.

I'm in no way saying that the use of the dreaded "N-word" should be endorsed, ratified and given the gold seal of approval - but my friends of every ethnic stripe have used slurs towards their own people. Its more of a professional/public life v informal amongst friends/private life.

Most young Jews, I know use Hebe all the time now, its not even a slur any more from their perspective...of course I'm sure if some WASP industrialist referred to them as Hebes, they'd get pissed and the ADL would do their thing. :lol:

Once again, context. ;)

I agree...gays use the word "fag" all the time...

Staticbeef
Apr 26th, 2006, 06:24 PM
That’s the Catch-22 for our community. Some of us despise it and some of us embrace it and some of us are on the fence. Either way, from this vantage point, it’s not a word that is beneficial to anyone on any level (read: you're not doing yourself any favors by calling yourself or someone else an N-word). As I read somewhere, you don’t hear Puerto Ricans saying “what’s up my Spic” or the Chinese community addressing each other as “my chink”…

I hear everything you are saying, guess what :eek: :eek: :eek: Blacks are calling whites Niggaa and I have even seen some (Here Is Another Lovely Term) Whiggers (Whites) calling each other Nigga. Somehow this term does not bother me, unless it is said in a racial contex, as opposed to greetings, and pet names. How can you have it both ways, I guess it boils down to how you mean it. There are lots of words with double meanings in the language.

Aquanetta
Apr 26th, 2006, 06:45 PM
I hear everything you are saying, guess what :eek: :eek: :eek: Blacks are calling whites Niggaa and I have even seen some (Here Is Another Lovely Term) Whiggers (Whites) calling each other Nigga. Somehow this term does not bother me, unless it is said in a racial contex, as opposed to greetings, and pet names. How can you have it both ways, I guess it boils down to how you mean it. There are lots of words with double meanings in the language.

I’m aware of everything you’ve written but I can’t for the life of me think of any occasion where’d I have feelings of warmth and elation being called the N-word. Can anybody? And someone still needs to demonstrate to me something positive about being called an N-word as well as calling someone else an N-word.

Staticbeef
Apr 26th, 2006, 07:04 PM
I’m aware of everything you’ve written but I can’t for the life of me think of any occasion where’d I have feelings of warmth and elation being called the N-word. Can anybody? And someone still needs to demonstrate to me something positive about being called an N-word as well as calling someone else an N-word.

Well, I guess its a matter of choice, when I was younger when called "My Nigga" by someone, usually signified a chose relationship, and I must admit, I kinda like it in bed, but thats my illness,lol

Dana Marcy
Apr 27th, 2006, 12:01 AM
Well, I guess its a matter of choice, when I was younger when called "My Nigga" by someone, usually signified a chose relationship, and I must admit, I kinda like it in bed, but thats my illness,lol

:haha: You aint right! TMI! :p

LoveFifteen
Apr 27th, 2006, 05:00 AM
I never knew Agatha Christie's book was originally called "Ten Little ******s"! Shocking! :eek: