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nitsansh
Apr 23rd, 2006, 03:34 PM
Seeds announced for World Group Play-offs draws

The Draws for the 2006 Fed Cup by BNP Paribas World Group and World Group II Play-offs will take place on Tuesday 25 April at the ITF offices in London at 11:00 (10:00 GMT).

The four seeds for the World Group Play-offs are Austria, France, Germany and Russia. They will be drawn against China P.R., Croatia, Czech Republic and Japan.

The four seeds for the World Group II Play-offs are Canada, Indonesia, Slovak Republic and Switzerland. They will be drawn against Argentina, Australia, Israel and Thailand.

Seedings are based on the latest ITF Fed Cup Nations Ranking, which is published following every Fed Cup weekend.

Ryan
Apr 23rd, 2006, 03:38 PM
I hope Canada draws Indonesia or Thailand. :o

Vut
Apr 23rd, 2006, 04:55 PM
every teams are TOO strong for Thailand... but I want they to play in Thailand.

shirgan
Apr 23rd, 2006, 04:58 PM
The best-terrible draw possible for Israel:
Switzerland with Hingis and Schnyder
but the tie played in Israel

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 23rd, 2006, 05:16 PM
seeds are done on current ranks.

we will play one of Czech Republic, Japan, Croatia or China.

i bet we get Japan away, i'm sure Masha will make her debut there.

shirgan
Apr 23rd, 2006, 05:30 PM
seeds are done on current ranks.

we will play one of Czech Republic, Japan, Croatia or China.

i bet we get Japan away, i'm sure Masha will make her debut there.
Argentina could still win.. ;)

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 23rd, 2006, 05:37 PM
then we could get Argentina at home :)

nitsansh
Apr 23rd, 2006, 05:42 PM
The ranking will change after this weekend, so seeding is not sure yet. There's a gap of over 2000 pts between Germany (9th place) and Croatia (12) or Japan (14), so I don't think there could be a change in the seeding for WG1.
It's a different matter in WG2. Croatia is just 80 pts above Thailand, and Canada is 600-700 pts behind them and could move up when this week's points are added.
I'll try to do the calculations when all the ties are decided.

Experimentee
Apr 24th, 2006, 03:13 AM
Hope China doesnt get France or Russia :unsure:

Modiac.
Apr 24th, 2006, 03:31 AM
Hope China will get a easy draw.

¤CharlDa¤
Apr 24th, 2006, 04:00 AM
I think it is Canada's best chance in a while. Especially with stronger teams possibly in the America Zone next year (Like Venezuela though Vento might have retired), it would be best for them to go to WGII this year. Let's hope it'll be in Canada!

kristen
Apr 24th, 2006, 06:18 AM
go russia~~~

nitsansh
Apr 24th, 2006, 06:36 PM
No change in the seeding of WG1 PO, allthough Germany is just 300-something pts above Japan and Czech Republic.

Canada move up to 15th place and will be seeded in WG2 PO. Thailand missed out by just 15 pts.

Ellery
Apr 24th, 2006, 06:49 PM
Hope China doesn't get Russia or France :unsure:

Drake1980
Apr 24th, 2006, 06:50 PM
Good luck Canada, I can't wait to see who you play!!!

babsi
Apr 24th, 2006, 07:46 PM
What's all of this 'WE' business?:confused:

Nygel
Apr 24th, 2006, 08:21 PM
Canada or Indonesia against Argentina plz!

TdF_DBLL
Apr 24th, 2006, 08:29 PM
Thailand voor Slovak Republic please.

Buitenzorg
Apr 25th, 2006, 03:41 AM
Hope INA won't draw SUI :mad: maybe againts CAN at Indonesia ;)

INA will be seeded #2 :eek: ahead of SUI and SVK :eek:

Sunny_Boy
Apr 25th, 2006, 03:46 AM
I hope Australia get a good draw! Plz not Switzerland though

¤CharlDa¤
Apr 25th, 2006, 03:50 AM
Hope INA won't draw SUI :mad: maybe againts CAN at Indonesia ;)

INA will be seeded #2 :eek: ahead of SUI and SVK :eek:

INA can't face Can, as both are seeded ;) Sorry :angel:

wubenzhimu
Apr 25th, 2006, 04:08 AM
hope China not face Russia again
since we were already in the same group in PAW :)

Shoulderpova
Apr 25th, 2006, 06:38 AM
hope China not face Russia again
since we were already in the same group in PAW :)
:lol:
I hope Russia will be drawn against Japan :devil:

jisung
Apr 25th, 2006, 06:47 AM
:lol:
I hope Russia will be drawn against Japan :devil:
Good idea :kiss:

fresh2flash
Apr 25th, 2006, 09:32 AM
No, no, Croatia for Russia please. I would like to go there in July :dream:

shirgan
Apr 25th, 2006, 10:45 AM
According to the fed cup site:

World Group Play-offs and World Group II Play-offs draws - live at 10:00 GMT
The Draw for the 2006 Fed Cup by BNP Paribas World Group Play-offs and World Group II Play-offs will be made at 10:00 GMT in London. You can follow it live here as it happens.

hope it's true

shirgan
Apr 25th, 2006, 11:06 AM
World Group Play-offs

Austria (s) v Japan (c)(*)

France (s)(c)(*) v Czech Republic

Germany (s) v China PR (c)(*)

Russia (s) v Croatia (c)


Key
(s) = seeded nation
(c) = choice of ground
* = choice of ground decided by lot

fresh2flash
Apr 25th, 2006, 11:08 AM
Russia is playing against Croatia!!! :dance: Good-luck girls!!!

Sandstorm
Apr 25th, 2006, 11:58 AM
worst posible draw for Croatia :help::help:

shirgan
Apr 25th, 2006, 12:16 PM
World Group II Play-offs


Canada (s)(c)(*) v Argentina

Indonesia (s) v Israel (c)(*)

Slovak Republic (s)(c) v Thailand

Switzerland (s)(c) v Australia

gelrad
Apr 25th, 2006, 01:13 PM
World Group II Play-offs

Indonesia (s) v Israel (c)(*)


Any chance it will be moved to a netural ground?

If not will Indonesia withdraw?

Kirt12255
Apr 25th, 2006, 01:15 PM
World Group II Play-offs


Canada (s)(c)(*) v Argentina

Indonesia (s) v Israel (c)(*)

Slovak Republic (s)(c) v Thailand

Switzerland (s)(c) v Australia

:tears: What a horrible horrible draw!!!
However if Alicia and Sam are playing well, could be an awesome tie. I wonder if it will get televised here? Alicia has certainly drawn a lot of attention to womens tennis here for the last few years so who knows?

shirgan
Apr 25th, 2006, 01:18 PM
Any chance it will be moved to a netural ground?

If not will Indonesia withdraw?

According to ynet (israeli news site) the press officer of Indonesia said they will ask for the tie to be in a neutral country. He refused to say what will happen if it is not so.. but he did stress that Indonesia doesn't have official ties with Israel etc..
so for now it depends on the ITF - if the ITF agree to change it to a neutral ground they will play.

CooCooCachoo
Apr 25th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Not a bad draw for Canada! But if Paola plays, and Gisela is in form, it could be bad ;)

crazillo
Apr 25th, 2006, 01:54 PM
OMG hope INA will be able to play. :sad:

fresh2flash
Apr 25th, 2006, 02:15 PM
worst posible draw for Croatia

Where do you think the tie will be played. I hope somewhere on the coast not in Zagreb! Is it possible?

Experimentee
Apr 25th, 2006, 02:46 PM
:tears: What a horrible horrible draw!!!
However if Alicia and Sam are playing well, could be an awesome tie. I wonder if it will get televised here? Alicia has certainly drawn a lot of attention to womens tennis here for the last few years so who knows?

It isnt a bad draw. Australia should win easily with the same team that won the zonal ties. The Swiss top players never play Fed Cup, best player they have that plays is Bacsinszky.

I'd be very surprised if it got televised. Australian TV doesnt give a shit about womens tennis.

nitsansh
Apr 25th, 2006, 02:48 PM
According to ynet (israeli news site) the press officer of Indonesia said they will ask for the tie to be in a neutral country. He refused to say what will happen if it is not so.. but he did stress that Indonesia doesn't have official ties with Israel etc..
so for now it depends on the ITF - if the ITF agree to change it to a neutral ground they will play.
ITF has never ordered Israel to play Davis Cup matches outside Israel. There's no reason it should be different in Fed Cup. If Indonesia doesn't want to play in Israel, it's their problem.
I know 2 cases that teams refused to play in Israel in Davis Cup - India in the late 80s and Morrocco in the 90s. In both cases ITF awarded a walk-over for Israel, but IIRC, the losing teams got away with the mandatory 1-year suspension and were allowed to play the following year.
In a recent case, a year or 2 ago, Denmark refused to travel to Algeria for a Davis Cup group 2 tie, claiming the country is unsafe. ITF gave Algeria a WO and suspended Denmark for the rest of the year, resulting in another WO loss (to Slovenia IIRC) and relegation to group 3.
The last time I recall that a country was ordered to play on neutral ground was Yugoslavia in the height of the Balkan war in the early 90s. The match took place in Cyprus. Later Yugoslavia was suspended because of the international boycott and Cuba was given a WO in a WG play off. The following year ITF decided to give Yugoslavia's spot in Euro/Africa group 1 to Croatia.

shirgan
Apr 25th, 2006, 02:55 PM
ITF has never ordered Israel to play Davis Cup matches outside Israel. There's no reason it should be different in Fed Cup. If Indonesia doesn't want to play in Israel, it's their problem.
I know 2 cases that teams refused to play in Israel in Davis Cup - India in the late 80s and Morrocco in the 90s. In both cases ITF awarded a walk-over for Israel, but IIRC, the losing teams got away with the mandatory 1-year suspension and were allowed to play the following year.
In a recent case, a year or 2 ago, Denmark refused to travel to Algeria for a Davis Cup group 2 tie, claiming the country is unsafe. ITF gave Algeria a WO and suspended Denmark for the rest of the year, resulting in another WO loss (to Slovenia IIRC) and relegation to group 3.
The last time I recall that a country was ordered to play on neutral ground was Yugoslavia in the height of the Balkan war in the early 90s. The match took place in Cyprus. Later Yugoslavia was suspended because of the international boycott and Cuba was given a WO in a WG play off. The following year ITF decided to give Yugoslavia's spot in Euro/Africa group 1 to Croatia.
I think that from the prudent response of the press officer, it seems they haven't yet decided what to do if ITF refused the neutral grounds request.
They are just giving the neutral option a try, because it would be easier for them.
But if the ITF gives them a clear NO answer I think there is still a chance they will come.

nitsansh
Apr 25th, 2006, 03:04 PM
If matches go by form, there could be 2 Asian teams in WG1 and none in WG2.
Of course, that depends on the teams nominations. Especially for Switzerland and Argentina that missed their best players in recent ties.

nitsansh
Apr 25th, 2006, 03:13 PM
From what I recall in the case of the Morrocco match, their decision to withdraw came just about a week before the scheduled match. I talked to one of the Morroccan players and he was surprised to hear of that and sounded really sorry.
It's a pity for the players who suffer from such political decisions.

nitsansh
Apr 25th, 2006, 03:15 PM
I think that from the prudent response of the press officer, it seems they haven't yet decided what to do if ITF refused the neutral grounds request.
They are just giving the neutral option a try, because it would be easier for them.
But if the ITF gives them a clear NO answer I think there is still a chance they will come.
You don't expect them to make a decision in few hours, do you?

shirgan
Apr 25th, 2006, 03:56 PM
You don't expect them to make a decision in few hours, do you?
Of course not
they will explore all their options
and make decisions after carefull deliberation :)

¤CharlDa¤
Apr 25th, 2006, 05:12 PM
Canada vs Argentina, in Canada :D I think we couldn't have asked for much better (well, except Thailand :lol: )

Good luck girls and I hope I'll be able to see it!

ganymedeyu
Apr 25th, 2006, 05:57 PM
Great draw for China and Japan:D

swiss vs. aus:(

LegionArgentina
Apr 25th, 2006, 06:43 PM
We have luck in the draw

I think we couldn't have asked for much better ; Canada has only 3 player in the top 200

Argentina has 6 into the top 200

Go argies!!

Vincey!
Apr 25th, 2006, 10:47 PM
canada..soo lucky to are against argentina..in plus..it's at home..that's good

Buitenzorg
Apr 26th, 2006, 12:22 AM
INA pls play :(

Kirt12255
Apr 26th, 2006, 02:17 AM
It isnt a bad draw. Australia should win easily with the same team that won the zonal ties. The Swiss top players never play Fed Cup, best player they have that plays is Bacsinszky.

I'd be very surprised if it got televised. Australian TV doesnt give a shit about womens tennis.

Fair call there Experimentee, if either Schnyder or Hingis don't play then we would be in good shape. Will have to see how it pans out I guess ;)

ex hopman
Apr 26th, 2006, 06:59 AM
Yesssss!!!

Japan got a good one!! :bounce:

Good luck, China... Two asian countries are in WGI? that'd be awesome!

Jerraj
Apr 26th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Croatia-Russia is going to be held in Croatia, Jelena Kostanic won't be playing cause she's getting married a week before. :wavey:

gelrad
Apr 26th, 2006, 02:02 PM
Acording to Ynet (http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3244167,00.html) Indonesia asked for neutral ground and the ITF said they will not even consider the request...

ex hopman
Apr 27th, 2006, 07:54 AM
Japan has asked to play at neutral ground before when they had a match against Columbia there...and we withdrew due to the safety concern... that was pity...

Hayato
Apr 27th, 2006, 09:36 AM
Canada (s)(c)(*) v Argentina

with no Gisela or Paola, of course Canada should win....but I hope the Argies do it :D

Australia should win easily...

crazillo
Apr 27th, 2006, 10:39 AM
I hope INA will play. They are such a lovely team and somehow they managed to stay in the Wg for years now.

Besides I don't think Israel has the quality to compete in the WG.

neospecialist
Apr 27th, 2006, 01:53 PM
I hope INA will play. They are such a lovely team and somehow they managed to stay in the Wg for years now.

Besides I don't think Israel has the quality to compete in the WG.

An interesting comment?! Israel has two players in the top 50 of the world, while Indonesia has no player ranked above 200!

Vut
Apr 27th, 2006, 02:34 PM
Indonesian players are better than their ranking... everything could happen in Fedcup so please play!!!

crazillo
Apr 27th, 2006, 06:18 PM
An interesting comment?! Israel has two players in the top 50 of the world, while Indonesia has no player ranked above 200!

Widjaja is definitely top-50 material, if not better, WHEN healthy... Prakusya and Tedjaksuma are very, very solid... I think espacially Smashnova will have problems with them... And in doubles they are definitly better... I think INA has the better FC team...

Meteor Shower
Apr 27th, 2006, 08:09 PM
Widjaja is definitely top-50 material, if not better, WHEN healthy... Prakusya and Tedjaksuma are very, very solid... I think espacially Smashnova will have problems with them... And in doubles they are definitly better... I think INA has the better FC team...

You've got to be kidding me.

Prakusya lost against Germany:
R2 - L Julia SCHRUFF 1-6 0-6
R3 - L Anna-Lena GROENEFELD 0-6 2-6

Smashnova and Peer should beat both of them, Maybe Widjaja in a good day can beat Anna, but after the losses in the groups, Anna will come much much better this time, I'm sure. I also think you are underestimating Shahar and Tzipi as our doubles team. I think Shahar should win both and Anna at least one, I don't see how INA has a better fc team?

I hope they will come and then we'll see who is right :)

nitsansh
Apr 27th, 2006, 10:34 PM
Croatia-Russia is going to be held in Croatia, Jelena Kostanic won't be playing cause she's getting married a week before. :wavey:
Is she going to miss Wimby because of the wedding?
Or she will tank if she gets further than she expects...

nitsansh
Apr 27th, 2006, 10:42 PM
Besides I don't think Israel has the quality to compete in the WG.
This is nonsense... Israel has a better team than Austria and could compete with the likes of Japan, China or Czech Republic.

nitsansh
Apr 27th, 2006, 10:45 PM
and also Germany and a Davenport-Williams-less USA.

danai
Apr 29th, 2006, 07:32 AM
Indonesia's tennis association has asked to move a Fed Cup playoff in Israel to a neutral third country, citing bitter ideological differences between the two countries, an official said Wednesday.

Indonesia has no objections to playing Israel in the July World Group II playoff but the team could not travel there, said August Raturandang of the Indonesian Lawn Tennis Association.

"We have made a request to the ITF (International Tennis Federation) for a neutral venue, anywhere but Israel," he told AFP.

The world's most populous Muslim country, a staunch supporter of the Palestinians, has met Israel twice before in the Fed Cup, losing both matches at neutral sites.

danai
Apr 29th, 2006, 07:35 AM
ITF declined Indonesia's request to play in neutral country :sad: :sad:


JAKARTA, April 27 (Reuters) - Indonesia's Fed Cup team are awaiting word from the government on whether they can go to Israel for a tie in July, the country's tennis federation said on Thursday.

Israel have been drawn to host Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, in the world group II playoffs, but the two countries have no diplomatic relations and Indonesia has barred sports teams from competing in the Jewish state.

"We will go, if the government allows us," Soebronto Laras, secretary-general of Indonesia's Tennis Federation, told Reuters.

"I already sent a letter to the Indonesian Sports Committee, Ministry of Sport and Ministry of Foreign Affairs but there's no answer yet," he added.

The Indonesian federation had also asked the International Tennis Federation (ITF) to move the July 15-16 match to a neutral venue but so far the request had been declined, Laras said.

"If Indonesia can't compete in the Fed Cup, Indonesia will be punished," he said.

In London, the ITF said the two countries had until May 9 to agree on a venue.

"The Indonesians have contacted the ITF and asked whether the tie could be moved to a neutral venue as they do not have diplomatic relations with Israel," a spokesman said.

"But our position is that the match has been drawn to be played in Israel and it is up to the Israelis where it is played. :sad:
"If Indonesia fail to travel that would be treated by the ITF as a withdrawal and Israel would go through."

Indonesia lost 0-4 to China last weekend in Jakarta in the first round of world group II.

danai
Apr 29th, 2006, 08:00 AM
Dari Detik.com
Tim Fed Indonesia Tolak Main di Israel
Mohammad Yanuar Firdaus - detikSport

Jakarta - Duel play off Israel kontra Indonesia di Grup II Dunia Piala Federasi 15-16 Juli nanti terancam batal. Pasalnya tim Fed Cup Indonesia menolak berlaga di Israel. Israel memang dijadwalkan Federasi Tenis Internasional (ITF) untuk menjamu Indonesia di laga play off Grup II Dunia 15-16 Juli nanti. Namun kondisi kedua negara yang saling bertolak belakang menjadi pengganjal pertarungan kedua tim di Israel.
Tidak adanya hubungan diplomasi antara Israel dan Indonesia menjadi penyebabnya. Kondisi ini terjadi karena dukungan penuh Indonesia atas kemerdekaan Muslim Palestina dari kungkungan bangsa Yahudi Israel.
"Kami tidak bisa bermain di Israel," ungkap Wakil Sekretaris Jenderal PB Pelti Augus Ferry Raturandang kepada AP, Kamis (27/4/2006), seraya mengungkapkan alasan tersebut.
"Kami tidak ada pilihan lain kecuali membayar denda $5.000 serta dilarang bertanding untuk satu tahun mendatang," ungkap Ferry lagi. (ian)
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simply translete in english like bellow: :sad:

From Detik.com
Indonesia Fed Cup Team Refuse Play in Israel

Indonesia Vs Israel PlayOff tie high possibility will cancelled, because Fed Cup Team Indonesia refuse to play in Israel. Israel will host indonesia in PlayOff World GroupII in 15-16 July 2006, but the two countries have no diplomatic relations and Indonesia has barred sports teams from competing in the Jewish state.
Its also because Indonesia is The world's most populous Muslim country, which is a staunch supporter of the Palestinians.
"we can not play in israel" Said Augus Ferry Raturandang from PB Pelti (Indonesian Tennis Organization)
" We have no choice, we are ready for the phunisment, pay $5000, and rejected play in fed cup for 1 year in 2007" Said Ferry

LucasArg
Apr 29th, 2006, 08:16 AM
Good draw for Argentina! :yeah:

Too bad the tie is not played home.

shirgan
May 8th, 2006, 12:57 PM
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1145961298659&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Indonesians may come for tennis

Despite making an official request to have its upcoming Fed Cup tie, scheduled to be played in Israel, moved to a neutral site, the Indonesian Tennis Federation is making plans to play in Ramat Hasharon.

Last month, Indonesia was drawn to face Israel in the World Group II playoffs on July 15-16, but immediately made it known that because the country did not have diplomatic relations with Israel, its tennis federation would not bring the team here.

However, on Sunday, the Israel Tennis Association revealed that it had received an e-mail signed by the secretary-general of the Indonesian Tennis Federation, Soebronto Laras, requesting information on security for his players.

"We have no diplomatic relation[s] with your country, so if we have to play in Israel, can you arrange that our team/players... enter and guarantee their security," Laras wrote.

ITA president Dr. Ian Froman, who received the e-mail from Laras, thanked him for contacting the ITA and responded that Israel would welcome the Indonesian side with open arms.

Froman said the ITA would take care of all security and transportation matters and put the visiting squad up in a five-star hotel.

The ITA is now awaiting a response from Laras.

sandg
May 25th, 2006, 11:55 AM
from local news today
http://www.jawapos.com/index.php?act=detail_c&id=227579

Indonesia Goverment permitted INA Tennis Association (PELTI) to play in Fed Cup Play Off (July 15-16).

nitsansh
May 26th, 2006, 09:34 PM
Could you translate this article to English?

Erickpan
Jun 14th, 2006, 10:41 AM
anyone knows when will the play off begin?

shirgan
Jun 16th, 2006, 10:49 AM
anyone knows when will the play off begin?
July 15th