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doujyr
Apr 23rd, 2006, 12:55 PM
does anyone know why is she kirilenko with an o when i thought all the russian girls add an a to the lastname?

cyclone7
Apr 23rd, 2006, 02:25 PM
Because her surname is Ukrainian. -enko is the most typical Ukrainian surname ending.

does anyone know why is she kirilenko with an o when i thought all the russian girls add an a to the lastname?

navyseals98
Apr 24th, 2006, 02:11 AM
Because her surname is Ukrainian. -enko is the most typical Ukrainian surname ending.

You wouldn't happen to know if Maria is related to Andrei Pavlovich Kirilenko the Soviet Politburo Member during the 1960s, 1970s, and early 1980s, would you?

Game Time
Apr 24th, 2006, 06:28 AM
You wouldn't happen to know if Maria is related to Andrei Pavlovich Kirilenko the Soviet Politburo Member during the 1960s, 1970s, and early 1980s, would you?

Of course shes not. LOL :lol:

doujyr
Apr 24th, 2006, 04:11 PM
Because her surname is Ukrainian. -enko is the most typical Ukrainian surname ending.

thanks

KirilenkoRulz
Apr 24th, 2006, 05:27 PM
thanksDoujyr - this same question came up on another tennis board earlier and to amplify what Cyclone7 said the best response from that thread was:

"Regarding Davidenko, yeah, it's Ukrainian in origin, but the -a female endings to such surnames are no longer in use, even in Ukraine. So Davidenko's female relatives' surname is also Davidenko (see: Maria Kirilenko, Alyona Bondarenko)."

There was some chatter about a year ago that Maria should change her citizenship to Ukrainian so she could play on the Fed Cup for them. But, Maria was born in Yubleigny (pardon the spelling), Moscow Oblast and is Russian Federation to the core. Somewhere in her family tree one of her ancestors moved east. During the USSR era this would have been movement within the country. Today, however, the Russian Federation is a distinct country. Interesting to note that Maria Sharapova was born in Belarus which was part of the USSR at the time but is now a soverign country.

As I think Maria would be pleased that fans from around the world want to learn more about her, here is a site on the Ukraine if you have an interest

http://www.ukraine.org/

For Sharapova fans, here is a good overview of Belarus (which my Grandparents always called "White Russia")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus

If any of Maria's Russian fans have clarifications or additions to the above, I for one would find it valuable to have your insights.

navyseals98
Apr 24th, 2006, 09:05 PM
Of course shes not. LOL :lol:

Joel, what the hell is that so supposed to mean? You dont even know who Andrei Kirilenko is? She could be very well related to him, she could be his great granddaughter or granddaughter? That would explain the huge house she is in front of on her official website.

navyseals98
Apr 24th, 2006, 09:09 PM
Doujyr - this same question came up on another tennis board earlier and to amplify what Cyclone7 said the best response from that thread was:

"Regarding Davidenko, yeah, it's Ukrainian in origin, but the -a female endings to such surnames are no longer in use, even in Ukraine. So Davidenko's female relatives' surname is also Davidenko (see: Maria Kirilenko, Alyona Bondarenko)."

There was some chatter about a year ago that Maria should change her citizenship to Ukrainian so she could play on the Fed Cup for them. But, Maria was born in Yubleigny (pardon the spelling), Moscow Oblast and is Russian Federation to the core. Somewhere in her family tree one of her ancestors moved east. During the USSR era this would have been movement within the country. Today, however, the Russian Federation is a distinct country. Interesting to note that Maria Sharapova was born in Belarus which was part of the USSR at the time but is now a soverign country.

As I think Maria would be pleased that fans from around the world want to learn more about her, here is a site on the Ukraine if you have an interest

http://www.ukraine.org/

For Sharapova fans, here is a good overview of Belarus (which my Grandparents always called "White Russia")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus

If any of Maria's Russian fans have clarifications or additions to the above, I for one would find it valuable to have your insights.

Hey Walt,
I found this interesting. I read an article saying that Alexander Lukashenko, Belarus's President has been talking to Vladimir Putin and is trying I think to reunite Belarus with Russia again. I could be wrong though, what do you think?

Danči Dementia
Apr 25th, 2006, 07:26 PM
Doujyr - this same question came up on another tennis board earlier and to amplify what Cyclone7 said the best response from that thread was:

"Regarding Davidenko, yeah, it's Ukrainian in origin, but the -a female endings to such surnames are no longer in use, even in Ukraine. So Davidenko's female relatives' surname is also Davidenko (see: Maria Kirilenko, Alyona Bondarenko)."

There was some chatter about a year ago that Maria should change her citizenship to Ukrainian so she could play on the Fed Cup for them. But, Maria was born in Yubleigny (pardon the spelling), Moscow Oblast and is Russian Federation to the core. Somewhere in her family tree one of her ancestors moved east. During the USSR era this would have been movement within the country. Today, however, the Russian Federation is a distinct country. Interesting to note that Maria Sharapova was born in Belarus which was part of the USSR at the time but is now a soverign country.
As I think Maria would be pleased that fans from around the world want to learn more about her, here is a site on the Ukraine if you have an interest

http://www.ukraine.org/

For Sharapova fans, here is a good overview of Belarus (which my Grandparents always called "White Russia")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus

If any of Maria's Russian fans have clarifications or additions to the above, I for one would find it valuable to have your insights.

Hi everyone I'm new in this forum I want to join you Maria K fans 'cos I like her style very much and she seems to be a nice girl I just want to clrear something:
Maria Sharapova didnt' born in Belarus she was born in nyagan (Siberia)in russia not in belarus but her parents are from belarus to be exactly Gomel I already learn sharapova history of so much thjat someone say it on TV.

Sorry for my english if you sometime don't understand what I'm saying its OK 'cos I don't understand myself either :lol: :lol:

I love the Makiri nickname I love it its funny and cute
well :wavey: :wavey:

houseoflords
Apr 26th, 2006, 12:37 AM
I do know that Maria is not related to Andrei Kirilenko the basketball player for the Utah Jazz. As for Andrei Pavlovich Kirilenko the Soviet Politburo Member, I have no idea.

KirilenkoRulz
Apr 26th, 2006, 12:30 PM
Maria Sharapova didnt' born in Belarus she was born in nyagan (Siberia)in russia not in belarus but her parents are from belarus to be exactly Gomel Welcome to the forum! I stand corrected, for the record, from Sharapova's bio: "Maria Sharapova was born on April 19, 1987 in Nyagan, a town in western Siberia, where her parents, Yuri and Yelena, had fled from Belarus a year earlier to avoid radiation from Chernobyl. Still too close to the disaster site, her family left their home as refugees again when she was two-years-old. In 1989, the Sharapovs (Maria uses the feminine Sharapova) settled for a while in the Black Sea town of Sochi, known then as a resort village and home of Russian tennis light, Yevgeny Kafelnikov. Yuri had been an engineer in Nyagan. But as the family bounced from on home to the next, he did anything he could just to keep them together."

cyclone7
Apr 26th, 2006, 12:40 PM
Hey Walt,
I found this interesting. I read an article saying that Alexander Lukashenko, Belarus's President has been talking to Vladimir Putin and is trying I think to reunite Belarus with Russia again. I could be wrong though, what do you think?

The Union of Belarus and Russia as a formation exists in reality already for 6 years. It even has State secretary of the Union - Pavel Borodin. The most useful feature of this union for ordinary people is that when you go from one country to another, there is no passport control or customs.
You can read about the Union here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Russia_and_Belarus)
And this is recent article (http://www.regions.ru/news/1961764/)written by State secretary of the Union (in Russian).

KirilenkoRulz
Apr 26th, 2006, 12:47 PM
The Union of Belarus and Russia as a formation exists in reality already for 6 years.Thanks cyclone7!

navyseals98
Apr 26th, 2006, 09:36 PM
The Union of Belarus and Russia as a formation exists in reality already for 6 years. It even has State secretary of the Union - Pavel Borodin. The most useful feature of this union for ordinary people is that when you go from one country to another, there is no passport control or customs.
You can read about the Union here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Russia_and_Belarus)
And this is recent article (http://www.regions.ru/news/1961764/)written by State secretary of the Union (in Russian).


So it is already in effect, I didn't know that. Are they planning on combining the two nations into one nation, where Russia will probably lead. By the way what city do you live in, in Russia.

cyclone7
Apr 27th, 2006, 12:48 PM
So it is already in effect, I didn't know that. Are they planning on combining the two nations into one nation, where Russia will probably lead. By the way what city do you live in, in Russia.

Yes, but in very far perspective. Right now it's rather about favourable trade agreements etc. For example, Belarus buys Russian gas at much cheaper price than Ukraine.
I think Belarus wouldn't agree to Russia's leading role. It seems that Lukashenko still hopes to become the first President of the Union. At least he hinted that several times.
I live in Moscow.

navyseals98
Apr 27th, 2006, 02:17 PM
Yes, but in very far perspective. Right now it's rather about favourable trade agreements etc. For example, Belarus buys Russian gas at much cheaper price than Ukraine.
I think Belarus wouldn't agree to Russia's leading role. It seems that Lukashenko still hopes to become the first President of the Union. At least he hinted that several times.
I live in Moscow.

Yeah I agree I think Lukashenko will want to be the Union's President. I think he hopes to bring back the Soviet Union. He is more against the West than President Putin is I think. Did you like the Soviet Union? Is life better now than it was during the Soviet Union?

Danči Dementia
Apr 27th, 2006, 04:39 PM
Yeah I agree I think Lukashenko will want to be the Union's President. I think he hopes to bring back the Soviet Union. He is more against the West than President Putin is I think. Did you like the Soviet Union? Is life better now than it was during the Soviet Union?

well that is going to be hard cos russia is more powerful than belarus I'm mexican but I'm a big big big fan of the soviet union I have read everything that I have found about it and I loved it but the people were opressed and now they are not but like I don't live there I can say too much and maybe I'm wrong so someone that live there answer us I'm curious
:wavey:

navyseals98
Apr 27th, 2006, 08:23 PM
well that is going to be hard cos russia is more powerful than belarus I'm mexican but I'm a big big big fan of the soviet union I have read everything that I have found about it and I loved it but the people were opressed and now they are not but like I don't live there I can say too much and maybe I'm wrong so someone that live there answer us I'm curious
:wavey:

Why do you like the Soviet Union? What kinds of things do you know about the Soviet Union, Political history? Because I have been studying the Soviet Union and Russia's history since I was 7 years old. I am now 19 years old.

usatoffeefan
Apr 28th, 2006, 04:02 AM
the soviet union had an interesting history thats for sure....

Danči Dementia
Apr 30th, 2006, 07:47 PM
Why do you like the Soviet Union? What kinds of things do you know about the Soviet Union, Political history? Because I have been studying the Soviet Union and Russia's history since I was 7 years old. I am now 19 years old.
well I really think that is because my grandfather he is like a kind of person that is obsessed with the soviet comunism so he was always telling me histories and a lot of stuff (good things always)about it that make me love it. what kind of things????????? well I have a lot of books about it(my grand father's books of course) also of the KGB(this is an awesome book) biographies of Lenin Stalin Krushev Yerltsin, Gorbachev and all that it amamzes me how you can't get enough of it. I would love that the history of my country interest me as much as the history of russia ........but that doesn't happen and it won't :lol: :lol:

navyseals98
Apr 30th, 2006, 10:06 PM
well I really think that is because my grandfather he is like a kind of person that is obsessed with the soviet comunism so he was always telling me histories and a lot of stuff (good things always)about it that make me love it. what kind of things????????? well I have a lot of books about it(my grand father's books of course) also of the KGB(this is an awesome book) biographies of Lenin Stalin Krushev Yerltsin, Gorbachev and all that it amamzes me how you can't get enough of it. I would love that the history of my country interest me as much as the history of russia ........but that doesn't happen and it won't :lol: :lol:

Do you know anything about the Soviet Armed Forces? I have books on the Soviet Army as well as political history.

usatoffeefan
May 1st, 2006, 01:48 AM
i used to have a bunch of thriller novels written during the cold war... loads of crap every single one of them...

cyclone7
May 2nd, 2006, 10:01 AM
Yeah I agree I think Lukashenko will want to be the Union's President. I think he hopes to bring back the Soviet Union. He is more against the West than President Putin is I think. Did you like the Soviet Union? Is life better now than it was during the Soviet Union?

It's a difficult question and it's impossible to answer it straight. In common - now there are more opportunities for people than before. I can also point out two things which I like adn don't like most since the collapse of the USSR. I like that now people can travel abroad without any restrictions (it was impossible at soviet times, everybody wishing to go abroad, even for tourism or vacations, had to apply for "visa to go out" which was next to impossible to get). I don't like that Russia didn't manage to maintain the level of power and respect in the world that Soviet Union had. Because of that now instead of bipolar world controlled by UN we have the USA, the only powerful country, who freely decide which nation will be next to be bombed.

PS. Don't we risk to be banned for offtopic?

navyseals98
May 2nd, 2006, 02:13 PM
Well we have already settled what this thread was about, kirilenko's last name. So we should just keep on with the subject we have now. I have a question for you. I mentioned him earlier, do you know who Andrei Pavolvich Kirilenko was.

Game Time
May 3rd, 2006, 04:50 AM
Yes i do.

navyseals98
May 3rd, 2006, 02:34 PM
Yes i do.

Only because I told you who he was. :p

Multi Fox
Sep 15th, 2006, 10:53 PM
Because her surname is Ukrainian. -enko is the most typical Ukrainian surname ending.


True :)
My background is Ukranian and most names there end with -enko or -chuk.

andrewbroad
Oct 21st, 2006, 12:45 PM
The correct pronunciation of Кириленко is "ki-ri-lee-EN-ka", so it should probably be transliterated as Kirilienka.

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~lollipop_girl~
Oct 23rd, 2006, 08:40 AM
Meh, I just say it how Maria does! :shrug: