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AjdeNate!
May 20th, 2002, 09:47 PM
Martina Hingis gets bashed on this board whether she wins, loses, doesn't play, has unfortunate injury requiring surgery. I was checking on her 2002 record so far this year, and - I'm sure this thread will get it's far share of hatemongers, but to those who will post such nasty and negative things - stick this in your pipe and smoke it - the numbers don't lie:

SEASON MONEY LEADERS
As Of 20 May
1 M Hingis $935,590
2 J Capriati $914,681
3 S Williams $803,000
4 D Hantuchova $578,149
5 V Williams $551,673
6 J Henin $539,886
7 M Seles $508,645
8 K Clijsters $368,724
9 L Raymond $340,792
10 A Mauresmo $281,273

CHAMPIONSHIP RACE
As Of 20 May
1 J Capriati 2031
2 M Hingis 1994
3 V Williams 1901
4 S Williams 1828
5 J Henin 1765
4 M Seles 1653
7 K Clijsters 1240
8 A Mauresmo 1055
9 D Hantuchova 1015
10 J Dokic 857

She's won the most $ this year so far, and is #2 on the 'year to date rankings'. Which means,...she has the earned the 2nd most points off ALL players this year since January 1st.

treufreund
May 20th, 2002, 10:28 PM
She had a great start to the year until the injuries started taking their toll around the time of Scottsdale on

Ryan
May 20th, 2002, 10:46 PM
I knwo Seles, but none of that matters to certain posters. Martina DOES get bashed no matter how she performs.

barmaid
May 20th, 2002, 10:59 PM
Thanks Seles for posting the stats on Martina!!:D And because Martina can't win RG this year...I'll root for Monica!! She deserves a slam..she's a great gal!!:hearts:


barmaid:wavey:

RockSteady
May 20th, 2002, 11:02 PM
Remember, to Williams fans, it was about the Grand Slams and big tournaments, not consistency. Well, where's Venus' Australian Open final, Australian Opendoubles title, and Tier I tournament win this year? ;)

As much as Martina frustrates me, she was playing damn good before Miami.

irma
May 20th, 2002, 11:03 PM
she was bashed that she was washed up around march when she was clearly in lead in the championsrace, that was rather dumb :rolleyes:

Volcana
May 20th, 2002, 11:12 PM
RockSteady - Speaking for Venus fans everywhere, call me when Martina next wins a GS title. Until then, she's trivial.

Feel free to settle for doubles titles, Tier I wins and GS finals. The Venus Willaims standard is GS singles titles. 2 of the last 3, 4 of the last 7. So Venus and Martina are each winning about at their level.

▀coene
May 20th, 2002, 11:13 PM
I'm sure without her injury she would have continued playing very well and maybe even become number one again.

RockSteady
May 20th, 2002, 11:17 PM
Convenient, that Martina gets an injury when she was clearly playing better than every other person on tour. So we'll see, Volcana, when she comes back. But until then, remember that she's younger than Venus, but has been to more GS finals, semifinals, quarterfinals, has more GS wins, tournament wins, weeks at #1, and has higher career earnings. ;)

Have a lovely day.

Ryan
May 20th, 2002, 11:18 PM
How true RockSteady.

Volcana
May 20th, 2002, 11:40 PM
clearly playing better than every other person on tour.

Rock - She hasn't won a tournament since Tokyo. That tournament started in JANUARY.

Lindsay has won the last two times she played Martina.
Venus has won the last two times she played Martina.
Serena has won the last three times she played Martina.
Jenn has won the last FOUR times she played Martina.

Having said all that, I hope you're right. I hope Martina comes back strong, retakes #1 (at least for a week) and wins that sixth GS title. But based on her play the last few years, I don't think that will happen. She'll have to be a lot better than she was when she got hurt.

But you said it yourself. We'll see.

Infiniti2001
May 20th, 2002, 11:43 PM
The money list is deceiving because it's earnings from doubles as well as singles.. Martina is at the top , because she's played more doubles than any of the other Top 10ers PERIOD... Daniela has played doubles in every tournament she entered as well...
Look where Serena is and she hasn't played any doubles this year ---
As for Martina being in the #2 spot as far as the championship points, it's no different than any other year. This has been her pattern from '99. Start the year off on the top and fade away as the season progresses (check the standings for last year at this) :P

Dawn Marie
May 20th, 2002, 11:50 PM
What has Venus got to do with this topic??

Or Williams fans for that matter??

In my opinion,Lindsay and Serena being out of OZ and Syndey helped Hingis win those points. She was lucky that they were out inmho. Of course that is not Hingis's fault at all, and she did earn those points, but IF Lindsay and Serena were 100%, Hingis would be titleless right now imho.

Also, great achievement about Hingis leading the points race, but Winning tournaments and Slams, are important. In fact not winning slams, is more a huge factor then leading the points race.

Wasn't this exact same topic posted last week? Hingis is a great champion and has a great game. A natural on the court, but reality is she needs to win a slam. Hingis was not playing better then everbody else on the tour, either imho. She was no better or no worse then alot of other players these past few months.:)

heidi2
May 21st, 2002, 12:05 AM
A VERY GOOD,TRUE COMMENT> [SIZE=3]RockSteady ! !

venusfan
May 21st, 2002, 12:14 AM
Martina was playing the best tennis before she got injured?

ROFLMAO :) :) :) :)

Yuki Holland
May 21st, 2002, 12:38 PM
Hello, venusfan
thanks so much.
you know I enjoy to know more fans of Venus and Senera.
because I hate some fans like to talk some unpolite thing. we need to respect to each other.
thanks so much Venusfan.
I always enjoy Venus vs Martina.
wonderful big match when they play.
some fans always like to make touble to fans and let fans hate the players.

Hope venus play well in GR.
Cheers,
Yuki
http://www.hingis.itgo.com

jomar
May 21st, 2002, 12:56 PM
thanks Seles...as expected they can't handle the truth.:p :rolleyes: :p

moon
May 22nd, 2002, 03:47 PM
Infiniti is right, Martina was probably at the same standing this time last year.

as for Marti being younger, that's true, BUT she started playing full time on the tour in 94. In 1997 when Hingis won the majority (;)) of her slams that was Vee's first year on the tour! So yes, Martina is a few months younger, but she is much older in tennis years.:p So smoke that!

Beige
May 22nd, 2002, 03:59 PM
N O W P L A Y I N G

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tennisfun
May 22nd, 2002, 04:06 PM
exactly Moon. that's why she is on the wheelchair right now counting her titles, earning, points etc. How happy! Be happy Marti, Be happy Marti fans.

Vanity
May 22nd, 2002, 04:07 PM
get well soon Martina! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Amanda
May 22nd, 2002, 04:11 PM
RockUn steady--How many grandslam titles have Venus won during the last two years? Venus is a lot better that Martina at this point in their careers...Sorry!:D

Aloysius
May 22nd, 2002, 05:01 PM
It's sad that we still have to argue about crap like this.

FP
May 22nd, 2002, 08:17 PM
hey, venusfan, gosh where did u get this pic for ur avator, i never noticed before that venus and serena r so fat indeed hehehe:p

herodoto
May 22nd, 2002, 08:26 PM
Martina is much better than venus, everybody knows that. i am still enjoying that double 6-1 at aussie 2001,:drool: surely she will be able for to do it again after her rehabilitation!
c'mon marti comeback soon!:kiss:

P.s Good point FP:drool: that avatar of Venusfan is "scary":p

QUEENLINDSAY
May 22nd, 2002, 08:32 PM
Lets just put it this way.

Martina is great!!!!!!
Venus is great!!!!!
Lindsay is great!!!!!
Jennifer is great!!!!


Serena will be great!!!!!!( not yet now ) The four players above has been number ones, multiple grandslams winners. Dont worry Serena will there soon, battling it out with the Belgians.

Williams Rulez
May 23rd, 2002, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by herodoto
Martina is much better than venus, everybody knows that. i am still enjoying that double 6-1 at aussie 2001,:drool: surely she will be able for to do it again after her rehabilitation!
c'mon marti comeback soon!:kiss:

P.s Good point FP:drool: that avatar of Venusfan is "scary":p It is sad that people are still clinging on to matches that are 2 years old...

I'm enjoying the thrashing Serena gave to Martina in Miami... and the one that Venus gave in Hamburg... :)

herodoto
May 23rd, 2002, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Williams_Rulez
It is sad that people are still clinging on to matches that are 2 years old...
I'm enjoying the thrashing Serena gave to Martina in Miami... and the one that Venus gave in Hamburg...
hey, that match was the last year no two years ago, and let's see martina healthy. all the martina haters like you will be surprised and sad. and yes i am still enjoying that match and i will enjoy it for the rest of my life:drool: