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morningglory
Apr 1st, 2006, 07:12 PM
...but clay is for earthworms :lol:
the darkest time of the year... sigh :sad:
Besides RG QF, Maria doesn't have many points at all...
Anyway, she'll get less winners and her movement will be exploited and her serve nerfed and oh... hell....
Maria and Andy Roddick should buy a house in the Carribean and go live there together for the clay season every year... :p

shadowsecret
Apr 1st, 2006, 07:17 PM
...but clay is for earthworms :lol:
the darkest time of the year... sigh :sad:
Besides RG QF, Maria doesn't have many points at all...
Anyway, she'll get less winners and her movement will be exploited and her serve nerfed and oh... hell....
Maria and Andy Roddick should buy a house in the Carribean and go live there together for the clay season every year... :p

haha good one.. but she's only playing in rome :( and rg of course

The_Pov
Apr 1st, 2006, 07:36 PM
This is the part of the year where I get a little depressed, both Maria and Andy are gonna struggle. I'm not expecting much from either, and every win will be a bonus to me.

Hopefully this'll be where Kirilenko gets title number 2.

UDACHi
Apr 1st, 2006, 07:46 PM
I wish she'd play some little event and maybe get a title. Oh well, it's fun to watch her claw through matches on the dirt. :lol:

Maria Croft
Apr 1st, 2006, 07:47 PM
Funny title lol

I hope she gets a good rest and is ready for the grass season :tape:

Honestly I'm not expecting anything from the clay season, just hope she is healthy and defends her points, I mean, she only plays two tournaments, Tier I and Grand Slam, we can't really expect her to win those :lol:

The_Pov
Apr 1st, 2006, 08:05 PM
I wish they would make the grass court season longer and shorten the clay and hardcourt seasons, to even them up a little.

How great would it be if we had a 3 month grass season, Maria would love it.

morningglory
Apr 1st, 2006, 08:05 PM
I miss the days when AO was a grass slam...

Steve-o
Apr 1st, 2006, 08:10 PM
I miss the days when the US Open... ;)

shadowsecret
Apr 1st, 2006, 08:11 PM
i've always wondered why clay season is long but grass season is VERY short..guess there's not too many places with grass courts?

BaRaDang22
Apr 2nd, 2006, 01:53 AM
i've always wondered why clay season is long but grass season is VERY short..guess there's not too many places with grass courts?

Yeah.. I was gonna say that. Grass is like faster, so the matches go by faster and we get to see who'll win faster.

meggz_star
Apr 2nd, 2006, 04:51 AM
All we can do now is hope for the best for Maria during the clay season. Just cuz it's clay doesn't mean we should give up on Maria.I know it isn't her best surface, but who knows? Maybe during her time off she'll get enough practice to better her game on clay. I just wish her the best of luck not only during the clay season but also for the rest of the year :hug: . Keep on being consistent and show everyone what you're made of :yeah:

myxomatosis
Apr 2nd, 2006, 06:11 AM
We should start a letter writing campaign to convert 75% (or more!) of WTA events to grass tournaments. I'd find it fantastic and I bet Maria would be alright with it too. Sure there would be some minor issues, such as there not being many grass court facilities, well, anywhere, but that's mere details.

Seriously though, since nobody really seems to think Maria will be too much of a threat on the clay this year, are there any predictions for the future? Can Maria win Roland Garros at some point, or will she suffer the fate of Sampras?

morningglory
Apr 2nd, 2006, 08:56 AM
We should start a letter writing campaign to convert 75% (or more!) of WTA events to grass tournaments. I'd find it fantastic and I bet Maria would be alright with it too. Sure there would be some minor issues, such as there not being many grass court facilities, well, anywhere, but that's mere details.

Seriously though, since nobody really seems to think Maria will be too much of a threat on the clay this year, are there any predictions for the future? Can Maria win Roland Garros at some point, or will she suffer the fate of Sampras?
heck I wouldn't call Pete's fate a "suffering" :lol: 3 slams/year for how many years? Dang... if Maria becomes like Pete I'll be ecstatic... Best net game, best 2nd serve in the business, and the notorious "Slam Dunk!" :D I miss Pete, he'd blow Fed/Nadal/ whoever away in his day

myxomatosis
Apr 2nd, 2006, 10:04 PM
Ok, yeah, good point. :p
Perhaps "suffering the fate" of Sampras was a bit strong. You know never winning the French must have weighed on his mind though...

Besides, why should Maria settle for 3 Slams/year when she could have all 4? Ambition! :lol:

Natasc
Apr 2nd, 2006, 10:20 PM
heck I wouldn't call Pete's fate a "suffering" :lol: 3 slams/year for how many years? Dang... if Maria becomes like Pete I'll be ecstatic... Best net game, best 2nd serve in the business, and the notorious "Slam Dunk!" :D I miss Pete, he'd blow Fed/Nadal/ whoever away in his day
no he wouldnt
it's more than a fact that Federer has a more complete game than Pete's
and Bruguera that faced Pete 5 times and won 3, said that Fed has a better forehand, much better backhand, almost the same volley and feel better the game, the only thing that Pete had better was his server...

Agssi said the same, that Fed was better
So...... I stay with those
and nadal would work like a Hewitt for Pete....

morningglory
Apr 2nd, 2006, 10:26 PM
no he wouldnt
it's more than a fact that Federer has a more complete game than Pete's
and Bruguera that faced Pete 5 times and won 3, said that Fed has a better forehand, much better backhand, almost the same volley and feel better the game, the only thing that Pete had better was his server...

Agssi said the same, that Fed was better
So...... I stay with those
and nadal would work like a Hewitt for Pete....
Somehow I feel that a complete game doesn't necessary win against an incomplete one... I still feel that in Pete's day, a break of serve = a set... men couldn't break each other at all, and look at Fed, who gets broken often enough... Pete also has more power than Fed, better net game, better reach, although lacking in the brilliancy of groundstrokes, but nigh-impossible to pass at the net off clay... anyway time will tell... Fed's been beaten plenty times before, but Pete was extremely invincible off clay (except for that match against Krajicek, the only time he slipped)

The_Pov
Apr 2nd, 2006, 10:39 PM
Somehow I feel that a complete game doesn't necessary win against an incomplete one... I still feel that in Pete's day, a break of serve = a set... men couldn't break each other at all, and look at Fed, who gets broken often enough... Pete also has more power than Fed, better net game, better reach, although lacking in the brilliancy of groundstrokes, but nigh-impossible to pass at the net off clay... anyway time will tell... Fed's been beaten plenty times before, but Pete was extremely invincible off clay (except for that match against Krajicek, the only time he slipped)

I know what you mean, I would say that Davenport has a more complete game than Maria, but the h2h, shows us that Maria owns her on the courts.

Natasc
Apr 2nd, 2006, 10:57 PM
Somehow I feel that a complete game doesn't necessary win against an incomplete one... I still feel that in Pete's day, a break of serve = a set... men couldn't break each other at all, and look at Fed, who gets broken often enough... Pete also has more power than Fed, better net game, better reach, although lacking in the brilliancy of groundstrokes, but nigh-impossible to pass at the net off clay... anyway time will tell... Fed's been beaten plenty times before, but Pete was extremely invincible off clay (except for that match against Krajicek, the only time he slipped)
jeez....fed lost 3 times last year
6 in 2004

he's the guy with the biggest victory percentual ever
so..I guess we can say that he's kinda invencible
More power?? Dont think so

besides...usualy WTA was boring..with no one to get closer of the #1
but we all know that Federer is impossible to beat now
for bet Federer he has to be in a bad day
and..as we saw today.... even playing SHIT he manages to WON
Fed is damn good on clay
Movs incridble
Play easy
and is just u take a good look... Pete at the Fed age has reach 10 finals and won 7 titles is MS
Fed = 12 finals and 10 titles
Fed has 2 MC

and NO PLAYER has a good H2h against him
besides ..he beat Pete in grass Im right??
just a detail....

Fed has everything...and er cant forgett that NO PLAYER AT HIS BEST CAN BEAT FEDERER AT HIS ;)
so yeah..Fed will break Pete records also...
the only thing that can stop Fed is a contusion, but once he plays so easy is ard to he gets one
so...the mens tennis will probably be boring for long years :lol:

bellascarlett
Apr 2nd, 2006, 11:29 PM
All we can do now is hope for the best for Maria during the clay season. Just cuz it's clay doesn't mean we should give up on Maria.I know it isn't her best surface, but who knows? Maybe during her time off she'll get enough practice to better her game on clay. I just wish her the best of luck not only during the clay season but also for the rest of the year :hug: . Keep on being consistent and show everyone what you're made of :yeah:

Clay obviously isnt her best surface - the results prove that - but she isn't at all that bad either. She's gotten to 2 consecutive QF at the French. She may have gotten further if she had not met Justine in the Qf last year. She beat Pierce in Rome last year right before the French where Mary got to the finals. That says something. I'm sure she'll get to clay semis and finals in the years to come if she keeps trying. Winning is a different matter though but if she keeps improving on clay, why not?

Why didnt she ever join a lower tier clay tourny? she could have had one or two clay court titles by now...:lol:...she's doing just Rome this year before the French and so far, the Rome entry list is overflowing with good players. We'll see...hopefully she gets to at least the semis of the French. I wouldn't count that out from happening. :)

bellascarlett
Apr 2nd, 2006, 11:32 PM
I know what you mean, I would say that Davenport has a more complete game than Maria, but the h2h, shows us that Maria owns her on the courts.
good point. Maria has already become better than Lindsay whenever those two play each other. I love their matches. A very good match-up imo. I hope it comes down to the two of them in the Wimbledon final. :D

bellascarlett
Apr 2nd, 2006, 11:45 PM
Fed has everything...and er cant forgett that NO PLAYER AT HIS BEST CAN BEAT FEDERER AT HIS ;)
so yeah..Fed will break Pete records also...
the only thing that can stop Fed is a contusion, but once he plays so easy is ard to he gets one
so...the mens tennis will probably be boring for long years :lol:

Sorry but Federer...:yawn:...he makes men's tennis so boring I agree.

meggz_star
Apr 2nd, 2006, 11:57 PM
Couldn't agree with you more on Federer. I hope Safin returns to the top ten soon. It looks like Federer really needs some serious competition

morningglory
Apr 3rd, 2006, 12:53 AM
Couldn't agree with you more on Federer. I hope Safin returns to the top ten soon. It looks like Federer really needs some serious competition
I see Nadal giving the FedEx headaches for these few months to come :devil:
Safin at his best will overpower Fed.

meggz_star
Apr 3rd, 2006, 01:12 AM
^^

VAMOS!! :devil:

Andy.
Apr 3rd, 2006, 01:51 AM
...but clay is for earthworms :lol:
the darkest time of the year... sigh :sad:
Besides RG QF, Maria doesn't have many points at all...
Anyway, she'll get less winners and her movement will be exploited and her serve nerfed and oh... hell....
Maria and Andy Roddick should buy a house in the Carribean and go live there together for the clay season every year... :p
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

waratahsrock
Apr 3rd, 2006, 02:07 AM
Sorry but Federer...:yawn:...he makes men's tennis so boring I agree.

I disagree with you's on this issue! Watching Federer play is brilliant, i appreciated even more just how good he is being at his matches at the AO.. He is incredible to watch - long may it continue..

Getting back to Maria, it appears most ppl in here have little/no optimism at all about her prospects on clay this time around. Sure clay isnt exactly a good surface for Maria, but she has added a bit more variety, and her movement has steadily improved since this time last year.. and if i recall correctly in her semi against Henin, the first set was extremely tight, which on a different day could've gone to Maria.

meggz_star
Apr 3rd, 2006, 02:18 AM
I have to agree with you on this. The way Maria's been playing this year shows that she's not only a threat on the hard courts and grass, but on any surface, so we shouldn't underestimate her during the clay season.

bellascarlett
Apr 3rd, 2006, 04:17 AM
I disagree with you's on this issue! Watching Federer play is brilliant, i appreciated even more just how good he is being at his matches at the AO.. He is incredible to watch - long may it continue..


Oh Federer is a brilliant player, no question. He just isn't my fave player. So to have him winning 99% of the time is not something I'm interested in. :tape: sorry...Funny, but Roddick losing interests me more than Federer winning... :devil: :lol:

Anyway...meggz_star, I dont know about Marat giving Fed serious competition. The man is just way too erratic - too much of a headcase. :banghead:...That said, Marat will be big competition though everytime & anytime he gets his act together. :rolleyes:

Nat, I :hearts: overpowering Marat! :lol:

Andy.
Apr 3rd, 2006, 06:41 AM
I disagree with you's on this issue! Watching Federer play is brilliant, i appreciated even more just how good he is being at his matches at the AO.. He is incredible to watch - long may it continue..

Getting back to Maria, it appears most ppl in here have little/no optimism at all about her prospects on clay this time around. Sure clay isnt exactly a good surface for Maria, but she has added a bit more variety, and her movement has steadily improved since this time last year.. and if i recall correctly in her semi against Henin, the first set was extremely tight, which on a different day could've gone to Maria.

I agree Feds is awesome he is my favourite in the mens game he is just :angel: :worship: but this clay season will be very light for Masha i hope she can defend what she earned last year clay is never really going to be her fotre well at least not for a few years. Its a surface that you need experience on to play well on it, she is still learning to play well on clay but she is progressing well on it.

Natasc
Apr 3rd, 2006, 09:22 AM
I disagree with you's on this issue! Watching Federer play is brilliant, i appreciated even more just how good he is being at his matches at the AO.. He is incredible to watch - long may it continue..
Exactly
watch Rogi is like buy a tape with "HOW TO PLAY TENNIS"
The men is teacher!!

Oh Federer is a brilliant player, no question. He just isn't my fave player. So to have him winning 99% of the time is not something I'm interested in. :tape: sorry...Funny, but Roddick losing interests me more than Federer winning... :devil: :lol:

Anyway...meggz_star, I dont know about Marat giving Fed serious competition. The man is just way too erratic - too much of a headcase. :banghead:...That said, Marat will be big competition though everytime & anytime he gets his act together. :rolleyes:

Nat, I :hearts: overpowering Marat! :lol:
yeah right :lol:
It's not like Marat gived Fed a bagel :lol:
actually...did he ever got a bagel?? :haha:


backing to Maria
jeez....I really think that now...with the dropshot she can have a lilte bit more of sucess on clay
o perhaps work more in her moviments out there
its a good time to learn ;)

Dan23
Apr 3rd, 2006, 11:07 AM
what was this thread actually about? :p
it disappoints me that people around here would write off Masha's clay season

shadowsecret
Apr 3rd, 2006, 11:12 AM
haha i think people got a little off topic with the men tennis stuffs :) don't worry dan, we always have faith in maria no matter what surface she plays on!

Maria Croft
Apr 3rd, 2006, 01:36 PM
what was this thread actually about? :p
it disappoints me that people around here would write off Masha's clay season


So you actually think that Maria can win Rome or RG?

I'm hoping for good results at both tournaments, but I don't think it's a bad thing to 'not' expect her to win those two tournaments, a clay Tier I and Grand Slam, she hasn't even made a clay final.

I'm not expecting her to lose early but I'm not expecting her do exceptionally well either, I don't think that's writing her off, that's just fair and normal.

Dan23
Apr 3rd, 2006, 03:27 PM
no im not expecting Maria to win titles, I just think theres good reason to hope for good results, a win wouldnt be out of the question.

msharafan
Apr 3rd, 2006, 05:14 PM
i think last year maria tried to prepare for the clay season and really tried to adjust her game to an almost clay court style game to do well. but seen as though it didnt really work i think shes not really bothering, and letting her injury, heal. she needs a break anyway, also she was trying to get to number 1 this time last year, but that seems unlikely during the clay season. i think people underestimate maria on clay, she is developing her game a bit more with coming to the net more, and you never know we may get a few shocks in rome or roland garros. allthough i do have to say this is a dull time, it seems like only yesterday it was the off season, grass will be here in no time! thank god, but unfortunatly for me that means exams! anyway i wish maria the best of luck this clay season, do youre best but dont tire yourself out for wimby.

Steve-o
Apr 3rd, 2006, 08:48 PM
Maria can play on clay. I remember the match with Pierce in Rome last year, impressive stuff. I think at her best Maria can beat any player on any surface but it's unlikely she will prevail on the dirt, just too many players who are better clay-courters at the moment.

btw...I'm looking forward to watching federer :worship: pushing the boundaries of his talent to try and win RG this year.

Maria Croft
Apr 3rd, 2006, 09:26 PM
Should be interesting seeing Maria on clay this year because her movement has improved a lot :)

BaRaDang22
Apr 3rd, 2006, 11:22 PM
All we can do now is hope for the best for Maria during the clay season. Just cuz it's clay doesn't mean we should give up on Maria.I know it isn't her best surface, but who knows? Maybe during her time off she'll get enough practice to better her game on clay. I just wish her the best of luck not only during the clay season but also for the rest of the year :hug: . Keep on being consistent and show everyone what you're made of :yeah:

I'd like to see her slide to. Looks like that some of the tall players don't slide that often.

lakan kildap
Apr 4th, 2006, 01:39 AM
jeez....fed lost 3 times last year
6 in 2004

he's the guy with the biggest victory percentual ever
so..I guess we can say that he's kinda invencible
More power?? Dont think so

Slow down. :) Actually, John McEnroe's 1984 record is still safe. Federer failed to match it last year because he lost to Nalbandian in the TMC. And to think McEnroe also played a full doubles schedule that year, something Federer cannot make a claim to.

besides...usualy WTA was boring..with no one to get closer of the #1
but we all know that Federer is impossible to beat now
for bet Federer he has to be in a bad day
and..as we saw today.... even playing SHIT he manages to WON
Fed is damn good on clay
Movs incridble
Play easy
and is just u take a good look... Pete at the Fed age has reach 10 finals and won 7 titles is MS
Fed = 12 finals and 10 titles
Fed has 2 MC

and NO PLAYER has a good H2h against him

Ah, two, actually, Nalbandian and Nadal. And they're still in their primes.

besides ..he beat Pete in grass Im right??
just a detail....

He beat Sampras when Sampras was clearly on the way down, after Sampras had won 7 Wimbledons.

Fed has everything...and er cant forgett that NO PLAYER AT HIS BEST CAN BEAT FEDERER AT HIS ;)

Excepting grass, Nadal, when healthy, can beat Federer on clay and hardcourts. And I believe, so could Nalbandian.

so yeah..Fed will break Pete records also...
the only thing that can stop Fed is a contusion, but once he plays so easy is ard to he gets one
so...the mens tennis will probably be boring for long years :lol:

While I agree that Federer is playing at a level that is unknown before, (and just to make it clear, I am a Federer fan), a lot of factors will determine whether he will beat Sampras' records (7 Wimbledons, 14 Grand Slams). There's injury, or illness, in other words, the overall state of his body (even if he's uninjured, he could suffer from fatigue or weakness), boredom, new talent coming up, even his own decision to pursue or not to pursue the records. Pete Sampras dominated the 90's, and while he never won 3 GS in a year like Feds did in '04, Sampras was always in the news, year after year. Federer now is what Sampras was from 1993 to 2000.

In other Grand Slams Sampras won matches while bereaved, sick and throwing up on the court. At Wimbledon, he won in imperious form against a peak Agassi in '99, then won the following year against a peak Rafter while clearly not at his best (it turned out to be his last Wimbledon trophy). There's also luck. There was one year where he did not face a single seeded player until the final.

lakan kildap
Apr 4th, 2006, 01:59 AM
The clay season, esp. the French Open remains a pretty important part of the tennis calendar. I understand most of the downplaying of the clay season comes from American players and media, simply because aside from Jim Courier in the early 90's, the Americans have never had a dominant clay courter in recent years. If you read ESPN, there are even columnists there who say the tennis GS calendar for US television should only consist of Wimbledon and the US Open. The Australian Open had always been the "ugly sister" (no offense to Aussies) among the Grand Slams, and its history reflects that (changes in schedule from December to January, even a year when it was never held at all). But the French Open on the same level?

Ask European players, and they will tell you the most important tournaments are Wimbledon and the French Open.

And just for the record, the Australian Open has the best fans. Seldom are they rude or hostile to players (contrast that with the French, where they booed Martina Hingis out of the court, and actually booed French-speaking JHH just for saying "Sony Ericsson"). They come in droves to see matches, and they appreciate good play when they see it.

Dan23
Apr 4th, 2006, 02:06 AM
And just for the record, the Australian Open has the best fans. Seldom are they rude or hostile to players (contrast that with the French, where they booed Martina Hingis out of the court, and actually booed French-speaking JHH just for saying "Sony Ericsson"). They come in droves to see matches, and they appreciate good play when they see it.
:worship: ;)

AO gets the best attendance of all the slams IIRC

lakan kildap
Apr 4th, 2006, 06:07 AM
i've always wondered why clay season is long but grass season is VERY short..guess there's not too many places with grass courts?

There was a time when 3 of the 4 slams were grass court tournaments. Remember, the original name of tennis was "lawn" tennis, and is still the name of the organization that holds Wimbledon, which remains grass to this day.

The Australian for many, many years, was on grass, before the move to Melbourne Park and Rebound Ace. The US Open had been held in three surfaces, "US clay", grass and hard. I think only Chris Evert and Jimmy Connors have ever won the USO on all three surfaces.

Overall, only the French Open and Wimbledon have stayed on basically the same surface, red clay and grass.

Now, grass is almost an afterthought. I think summer has a lot to do with why the season is short. Grass needs rain and shine.

I prefer it the way it is. It makes Wimbledon even more special.

Natasc
Apr 4th, 2006, 10:28 PM
The clay season, esp. the French Open remains a pretty important part of the tennis calendar. I understand most of the downplaying of the clay season comes from American players and media, simply because aside from Jim Courier in the early 90's, the Americans have never had a dominant clay courter in recent years. If you read ESPN, there are even columnists there who say the tennis GS calendar for US television should only consist of Wimbledon and the US Open. The Australian Open had always been the "ugly sister" (no offense to Aussies) among the Grand Slams, and its history reflects that (changes in schedule from December to January, even a year when it was never held at all). But the French Open on the same level?

Ask European players, and they will tell you the most important tournaments are Wimbledon and the French Open.

And just for the record, the Australian Open has the best fans. Seldom are they rude or hostile to players (contrast that with the French, where they booed Martina Hingis out of the court, and actually booed French-speaking JHH just for saying "Sony Ericsson"). They come in droves to see matches, and they appreciate good play when they see it.
dont think that french are "Hostiles"
she really deserved that
a day before she caled Steffi of old :o
thats bad any women to heard
and then make that shit....
she was never good in behavior part... :rolleyes:

but I for sure agree with Auzies!!
they guys are the best!!
French and mostly WIMB the fans are always sooooo cold
sometimes i get a feeling that the british enjoy more they "strawberry with vanilla" (or whipped cream) them the match :lol:
Frenchs always put frenchs for play in the main courts I hate that!! who cares for them??
we wanna see good matchs
but i think that are in the "middle" of tha greates crowd

for me first is auzie (about crowd)
then USO is the funniest crowd ever, sometimes I fel like they play together with the players
they talk to player :lol: is soo funny
Then frenchs
but the worst crowd is british
not that they are bad.... I just think that if u compare to auzies, americans, frenchs they are the ones with less interaction with the players....
sorry for all the britishs here
my hugest friend is a brithsh, but is just my opnion...

about the clay season, I agree that needs to be longer than grass
'cause most of the players are build for that kinda surface
I still remenber a player (dont remenber his name) that just played the caly season and was n1 :lol: I think that John Mc hate him if Im not wrong :lol:
U have the spanish, argertina, brazilian, french guys and they are just build for that kinda surface
it's the majority, so, I agree with this season be longer
I like also they all fight thing on her...the point are so long, thats why u must fight ;)

of course...all in my opnion!!

morningglory
Apr 4th, 2006, 10:46 PM
I think you mean Gustavo Kuerten ;) only Rg titles, no other slams... King of Clay (sucks on grass)

Doc
Apr 4th, 2006, 11:06 PM
Maria is underestimated on clay.

In fact she has beaten quite a lot of clay courters. Last year she was only defeated on clay by Justine (twice), and Patty Schnyder.

The good thing is that there is not much pressure on her on clay since no on epects her to take titles. But like Serena and Steffi, an RG win at sometime in her career can't be ruled out.

Doc
Apr 4th, 2006, 11:11 PM
The best fans are the British.

Not rude, not loud, but sporting and knowledgeable.

myxomatosis
Apr 4th, 2006, 11:36 PM
I enjoy it when the crowds are loud though, like when there's play on the middle Sunday at Wimbledon or a late night match at the USO. Tennis can seem so staid sometimes and it's so much fun when people are loud, it makes it seem like the crowd is really into the match. Of course, "loud" can sometimes turn into "obnoxious", unfortunately.

I really think Maria could win RG this year. As Doc pointed out, she'll be flying under the radar a bit (as much as Maria Sharapova can fly under the radar at least). I think without too much pressure she can just concentrate on playing her game and maybe pull off a hugely unexpected win, especially if a couple of the top clay courters (eg. Justine) aren't playing at their best.

Dan23
Apr 5th, 2006, 12:28 AM
The best fans are the British.

Not rude, not loud, but sporting and knowledgeable.
...unlike the British photographers and press then :p

Maria Croft
Apr 5th, 2006, 08:56 AM
Maria is underestimated on clay.

In fact she has beaten quite a lot of clay courters. Last year she was only defeated on clay by Justine (twice), and Patty Schnyder.

The good thing is that there is not much pressure on her on clay since no on epects her to take titles. But like Serena and Steffi, an RG win at sometime in her career can't be ruled out.


I agree, but not in the next few years I don't see it, probably near the end of her career, and let's hope that's many years from now :D

TeaMMashA
Apr 5th, 2006, 10:09 AM
The best fans are the British.

Not rude, not loud, but sporting and knowledgeable.

Not true ive seen your football fan films :lol:

Porcupine
Apr 6th, 2006, 12:51 PM
Not true ive seen your football fan films :lol:
Uuuh, hooligans :scared:
But football is different from tennis. You know, Wimbly is kinda quiet I think, unlike the Aussie, the fans make me think I'm watching a football derby :lol:
Especially the Cyprus fans, wow :D

Nice avatar Aaron. Sheva :kiss:

UDACHi
Apr 30th, 2006, 11:59 PM
Thought I'd bump this thread since the red clay season begins this week. Can't wait for Rome. :dance:

I think Maria's a highly underrated clay court player. She was consistently deep in draws last year, her first clay stretch as a true top player, and people act like she's never won a match on the stuff. I hope she can surprise everybody with a few strong runs this year. :D

usatoffeefan
May 1st, 2006, 01:44 AM
she has made it to the semis of every slam right? so why not one match further this year??? and in response to cutting out the AO and FO from tv... WHY??? i love watching tennis! the surface and location makes no difference to me! although i do dislike the french fans i love the tennis on clay courts! the rallies are so interesting!

myxomatosis
May 1st, 2006, 01:56 AM
she has made it to the semis of every slam right? so why not one match further this year??? and in response to cutting out the AO and FO from tv... WHY??? i love watching tennis! the surface and location makes no difference to me! although i do dislike the french fans i love the tennis on clay courts! the rallies are so interesting!Actually she made it the Quaterfinals at RG 2005 ;)
I think she can win the French this year.
But then again I'm also fairly delusional.

usatoffeefan
May 1st, 2006, 02:01 AM
o... i didnt know she hadnt made it that far this year... well she can do it! her vs. dementieva... and then maria will take her apart...

Maria Croft
May 1st, 2006, 08:06 AM
Actually she made it the Quaterfinals at RG 2005 ;)
I think she can win the French this year.
But then again I'm also fairly delusional.


If she has the same luck Mauresmo had to win the Australian open she might win RG this year :lol:

Maria Croft
May 1st, 2006, 08:08 AM
Thought I'd bump this thread since the red clay season begins this week. Can't wait for Rome. :dance:

I think Maria's a highly underrated clay court player. She was consistently deep in draws last year, her first clay stretch as a true top player, and people act like she's never won a match on the stuff. I hope she can surprise everybody with a few strong runs this year. :D


I agree, she is underrated, but at the same time, she isn't a very good clay player, she's just Maria, and Maria hates to lose, doesn't matter on what she plays, she just wants to win, that's why she gets deep in the clay draws but hasn't made a final on it yet

usatoffeefan
May 1st, 2006, 12:06 PM
Mauresmo earned that final berth as much as it depended on her. apart from 3 retirements... she commited less than 50 unforced errors in the entire tournament...

myxomatosis
May 3rd, 2006, 02:32 AM
I agree, she is underrated, but at the same time, she isn't a very good clay player, she's just Maria, and Maria hates to lose, doesn't matter on what she plays, she just wants to win, that's why she gets deep in the clay draws but hasn't made a final on it yetWell put. :worship:

It seems like Maria hasn't played in FOREVER.