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lizchris
Mar 23rd, 2006, 04:42 PM
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/AD472B79A45C0CEB86257139006ED837?OpenDocument

Talk show host fired after on-air racial slur

By Jake Wagman (jwagman@post-dispatch.com)
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
03/22/2006
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David Lenihan


A radio personality at 550 KTRS was fired on the spot this morning after using the word “coon” on the air in a conversation about Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Dave Lenihan was dismissed after what he called an inadvertent slip of the tongue. Within 20 minutes, station CEO Tim Dorsey apologized on the air to listeners and announced that Lenihan, who had been with the station for less than two weeks, had been let go.

“I don’t know what was in Mr. Lenihan’s mind,” Dorsey said in an interview. “I know what I heard. I know it was reprehensible.”

Lenihan’s comment was made during a discussion about Rice’s credentials to become commissioner of the National Football League, a topic that has been fodder for sports talk radio since the current commissioner announced he would retire later this year.

Lenihan was listing what assets Rice could bring to the league, including her tenure as a top academic officer at Stanford University and the fact that she is African-American.

“She’s just got a patent resume, of somebody that’s got such serious skill,” Linehan said on the air. “She loves football, she’s African-American, which would kind of be a big coon, a big coon – oh my God, I am totally, totally, totally, totally, totally sorry for that, OK? I didn’t mean that. That was just a slip of the tongue.” Lenihan later said he meant to use the word "coup."

Reached at home, Lenihan said he was still trying to figure out what happened, and was drafting a letter of apology to Rice.

"I was trying to say 'quite a coup' but it came out 'coon,"' he said. "I caught myself and apologized. It wasn't anything I was meaning to say. I never use that word.

"I think she's a fantastic woman. I was even talking about if she ran for president, I'd work on her campaign."

He said his biggest fear is that his choice of words tarnished the image of St. Louis and the baseball team, which is a part-owner of the station.

"It was my dream job," he said. "Ratings were going well. It kind of stinks."

Lenihan, who had previously been with radio station WGNU, was part of the recently reshuffled lineup at KTRS since half of the station was acquired by the St. Louis Cardinals. He had a morning talk show.

The Associated Press contributed information for this story.

Black Mamba.
Mar 23rd, 2006, 04:49 PM
From the sounds of it this guy didn't say it on purpose, but you have to send a message with stuff like that. Based on how he said "coon" it doesn't seem like he meant to be racist about it, but the fact that he was talking about an AA and used the term hurt him.

Helen Lawson
Mar 23rd, 2006, 04:52 PM
He was on Howard Stern this morning and sounded like a genuinely nice guy who didn't mean it and is very sorry.

Howard claims he should sue to get his job back, but the guy doesn't want to, so Howard called him a wimp and then got his wife on the phone and asked her if he "gave it to her hard" because it sounds like he's too wimpy. She said she gets it "good and hard and a lot." Howard then asked her if she was Black, as that could help his case, but she said she was white.

lizchris
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:26 PM
If he only said it once, then I would be inclined to give the guy his job back, but he said it twice in the same sentence; that isn't a slip of the tongue.

Rocketta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:32 PM
If he only said it once, then I would be inclined to give the guy his job back, but he said it twice in the same sentence; that isn't a slip of the tongue.

He only said it once in reference to Condoleezza. He said it and repeated it to himself like did I really say that word and then said Oh God I didn't mean that.

It truly was a slip of the tongue. He's probably thought things like that in his mind but that's not a crime.

He should fight to get his job back. The company should show a strong stance on this as well. I think if he fights them the company will give in because they will have at least saved face.

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:34 PM
heh. sounds like he was trying to make a joke and it went horribly wrong. he should get fired to set an example.

though in that context, i don't think he's racist.

Stamp Paid
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:35 PM
LOL

However, IMO, she is definitely a coon.

Rocketta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:38 PM
LOL

However, IMO, she is definitely a coon.

Oh the irony! :rolls:

Stamp Paid
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:04 PM
Oh the irony! :rolls:

LOLOL!!!! I know right. xD

But don't get me wrong, he still aint have no right to call her that.

Pheobo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:11 PM
Everyone's a little bit racist ;)

Wigglytuff
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:16 PM
LOL

However, IMO, she is definitely a coon.

does it make me a bad person that i thought the exactly that... :o :help:

Pheobo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:17 PM
does it make me a bad person that i thought the exactly that... :o :help:


Nah. Condi sucks and she'll be burning in hell with my Grandmother anyways.


:hug:

lizchris
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:18 PM
He only said it once in reference to Condoleezza. He said it and repeated it to himself like did I really say that word and then said Oh God I didn't mean that.

It truly was a slip of the tongue. He's probably thought things like that in his mind but that's not a crime.

He should fight to get his job back. The company should show a strong stance on this as well. I think if he fights them the company will give in because they will have at least saved face.


Did you hear his show?

All he had to say was, "did I say that?" after he said the offending word. He didnt' have to repeat it and that is what got him fired. Had he just said it once, then I'd agree with you.

SelesFan70
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:40 PM
LOL

However, IMO, she is definitely a coon.

:rolleyes:

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:28 PM
LOL

However, IMO, she is definitely a coon.

lmao :tape:

Rocketta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:30 PM
Did you hear his show?

All he had to say was, "did I say that?" after he said the offending word. He didnt' have to repeat it and that is what got him fired. Had he just said it once, then I'd agree with you.

nope didn't hear it....did you? Do you have a copy of the audio we can all hear?

Had they chose to write his quote as "which would kind of be a big coon, a big coon? – oh my God, I am totally, totally, totally, totally, totally sorry for that, OK? I didn’t mean that. That was just a slip of the tongue."

:shrug:

lizchris
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:35 PM
nope didn't hear it....did you? Do you have a copy of the audio we can all hear?

Had they chose to write his quote as "which would kind of be a big coon, a big coon? – oh my God, I am totally, totally, totally, totally, totally sorry for that, OK? I didn’t mean that. That was just a slip of the tongue."

:shrug:

I can't find it anywhere on the Internet, but I am sure it exists.

Kart
Mar 23rd, 2006, 09:00 PM
If it was a mistake I feel a bit sorry for him but the station should not rehire him - the mixed signals that would send would only lead to more problems.

*JR*
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:00 PM
LOL

However, IMO, she is definitely a coon.
I beg your pardon! :mad: (She's an Aunt Tomessa or something). :devil:

Wannabeknowitall
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:19 PM
I would have preferred Uncle Tom myself but coon seems to work.
Anyone who would actually go into a NYC shoe store to buy some 1,000 dollar shoes the day after Katrina, is a slave to something.

Lord Nelson
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:47 PM
does it make me a bad person that i thought the exactly that... :o :help:
wow you don't seem to think highly of your own people. So to you blacks can be coons, how sad. :sad:

Dana Marcy
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:48 PM
"I was trying to say 'quite a coup' but it came out 'coon,"' he said. "I caught myself and apologized. It wasn't anything I was meaning to say. I never use that word.

I totally understand the slip of the tongue but it just makes him look bad because Condi is black and then he says he would never use the word. If he would never use it then why did he use it? :scratch:

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:51 PM
I still don't get what was supposed to be his joke in the first place :scratch:

Anyhow, he shouldn't have said it at all :shrug:

Infiniti2001
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:52 PM
I would have preferred Uncle Tom myself but coon seems to work.
Anyone who would actually go into a NYC shoe store to buy some 1,000 dollar shoes the day after Katrina, is a slave to something.

:worship: :tape:

Gonzo Hates Me!
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:56 PM
Coooon? WTF! I have never ever even heard this word before! Is it specifically for black people? 'Cause why have I never heard it... I mean, when exactly do people use this word? I am like great! There are even more racial slurs than the ones that already exist. Fantastic. This world just gets better and better.

Rocketta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:58 PM
I totally understand the slip of the tongue but it just makes him look bad because Condi is black and then he says he would never use the word. If he would never use it then why did he use it? :scratch:

Oh he's definitely thought that in his mind before....but we all have terrible thoughts from time to time it's if we act on them. He definitely didn't mean to let that slip. :lol:

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:59 PM
I have never ever even heard this word before! Is it specifically for black people? 'Cause why have I never heard it... I mean, when exactly do people use this word? I am like great! There are even more racial slurs than the ones that already exist. Fantastic. This world just gets better and better

I didn't know about it either, till 12th grade. The author of my psych book was named Dennis Coon :tape:

One of my friends 'pointed that out' to me.

Infiniti2001
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:59 PM
I totally understand the slip of the tongue but it just makes him look bad because Condi is black and then he says he would never use the word. If he would never use it then why did he use it? :scratch:

Good question-- he made matters worse by saying how fantastic she is and how he'd work on her presidential campaign. I think he should be fired for that :rolleyes: Meanwhile , I think he would have been better off if he said that she is a priggish, delusional, self-centered liar. :tape:

Rocketta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:05 PM
coon is a racial slur used against blacks in the US. Here's what I found one slur dictionary say


Probably refers to the Portuguese word for slave pens or barracks "baracoons". Could also have meaning as a shortening of "raccoon", as raccoons have a tendency to steal.

Dawn Marie
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:11 PM
I believe it was a genuine slip of the tongue. Maybe Condi will wake up and realize that she is a women of color now. She prolly looked in each direction and wondered who he was calling a coon. Hell she prolly laughed at the joke until she realized it was "ON HER" HAHAHAH "On HER". get it on her and ON HER, in like the color of her skin on her. lmao.


Anyway, I think it was all a genuine slip of the tongue.

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:13 PM
Coooon? WTF! I have never ever even heard this word before! Is it specifically for black people? 'Cause why have I never heard it... I mean, when exactly do people use this word? I am like great! There are even more racial slurs than the ones that already exist. Fantastic. This world just gets better and better.
ok good, so I wasn't the only one who had to look up the term on an online dictionary...

I found other words I didn't know too which are supposed to be just as derogatory : spade, jigaboo and nigra :o

edit : I keep skipping words in my sentences :o:help:

Wannabeknowitall
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:13 PM
It's also supposedly used in a deragatory way by Australians to those of Aborigine ancestry.
Is that really that surprising?

Wannabeknowitall
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:15 PM
ok good, so I wasn't the only one who had to look up the term on an online dictionary...

I found other words I didn't too which are supposed to be just derogatory : spade, jigaboo and nigra :o

It's ok.
I've learned many deragatory words used for blacks from "Drawn Together". :lol:
I really wish they wouldn't do that. Now I know someone is going to use them.

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:16 PM
coon is a racial slur used against blacks in the US. Here's what I found one slur dictionary say
Probably refers to the Portuguese word for slave pens or barracks "baracoons". Could also have meaning as a shortening of "raccoon", as raccoons have a tendency to steal.
thanks cause your's is more precise.

Here's the definition that I found : "(ethnic slur) offensive name for a Black person" ;)

Wannabeknowitall
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:25 PM
In one episode of "Drawn Together" this season, Foxxy exposes Strawberry Sweetcake's plan, she angrily says, "And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for that meddling schwoogie!"
Schwoogie is a bit before my time as well as tar baby. Coon seems to be as well.
Seem like the "n" word is the one that seems to really stick.

Rocketta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:26 PM
ok good, so I wasn't the only one who had to look up the term on an online dictionary...

I found other words I didn't know too which are supposed to be just as derogatory : spade, jigaboo and nigra :o

edit : I keep skipping words in my sentences :o:help:

ah, jigaboo....there's a good one. :lol:

Isn't that the name of the song they sing in the showdown scene in Spike Lee's School Daze? :lol:

anyway, check out this crazy online urban dictionary and their definitions .. too too funny. :tape:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coon

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:26 PM
It's ok.
I've learned many deragatory words used for blacks from "Drawn Together". :lol:
I really wish they wouldn't do that. Now I know someone is going to use them.

Drawn Together is my shit :lol:

Dana Marcy
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:27 PM
Rocketta I hear ya! Acting on it is a whole 'nother ball a wax. ;)

Good question-- he made matters worse by saying how fantastic she is and how he'd work on her presidential campaign. I think he should be fired for that :rolleyes: Meanwhile , I think he would have been better off if he said that she is a priggish, delusional, self-centered liar. :tape:

Girl you aint right! Those adjectives have me rollin! :haha: :p

Dana Marcy
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:28 PM
ah, jigaboo....there's a good one. :lol:

Isn't that the name of the song they sing in the showdown scene in Spike Lee's School Daze? :lol:

:haha: Yeah that's when the Wannabes and the Jigaboos go at it about good hair. :tape:

Rocketta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:29 PM
:haha: Yeah that's when the Wannabes and the Jigaboos go at it about good hair. :tape:

Yeah that's it! :haha:

Spike was da man back then. :lol:

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:32 PM
Thanks for that link, Rocketta :yeah:

I've never seen that show "Drawn Together" :p

I'm learning new things today that's for sure... kind of makes me glad all that stuff was before my time.

Dana Marcy
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:32 PM
Yeah that's it! :haha:

Spike was da man back then. :lol:

And girl do you remember Tisha Campbell licking Giancarlo Espositio's scalp. :tape: :lol:

And that scene with Samuel L Jackson meeting Larry Fishburne and other students at the chicken place. That scene had some power! Spike! :worship:

decemberlove
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:33 PM
Well, shit happens and sometimes sorry just isn't enough.

But I'm shocked at the people who have never heard "coon" before. Dune coon doesn't ring a bell?

Rocketta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:34 PM
And girl do you remember Tisha Campbell licking Giancarlo Espositio's scalp. :tape: :lol:

And that scene with Samuel L Jackson meeting Larry Fishburne and other students at the chicken place. That scene had some power! Spike! :worship:

I know...:lol:

They have like a Spike Lee DVD collection at Wal-Mart. I so want it. :hearts:

decemberlove
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:34 PM
I beg your pardon! :mad: (She's an Aunt Tomessa or something). :devil:

More like Sally Hemmings.

harloo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:44 PM
Poor Condi, the woman just can't catch a break. sigh:sad: We all know she's a coon, but the radio personality didn't have to put her on blast for no apparent reason.

Now he shouldn't of been fired because honestly radio personalites say some pretty mean spirited things about people. I do think an apology is in order though. Poor condi, the woman tried to fix her weave and she still can't garner any sympathy from people.:lol:

Dana Marcy
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:48 PM
Poor Condi, the woman just can't catch a break. sigh:sad: We all know she's a coon, but the radio personality didn't have to put her on blast for no apparent reason.

Yawl have me :haha: I'm mad that I have to get back to work but THANKS! :bigclap:

SJW
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:51 PM
i am DYING at the amount of people calling Condi a coon.
i don't really know that much about her...it seems i'ma have to read up on why y'all are calling her that :lol:

CJ07
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:56 PM
Thats rediculous. What happened to freedom of speech eh? ;)

But seriously, it was a slip. He shouldn't be fired. Especially when he apologizes for it.

CJ07
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:58 PM
i am DYING at the amount of people calling Condi a coon.
i don't really know that much about her...it seems i'ma have to read up on why y'all are calling her that :lol:
She's black and conservative.

To many blacks in the country thats like treason. Which is retarded, but I won't touch that.

Condi was the speaker at my high school graduation one year and she's a really great woman. Along with Michael Steele shes one of the rising conservative black leaders.

I'm happy because they're finally showing that blacks don't have to be so one-dimensional.

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:00 AM
it's more than her just being conservative.

i mean the term 'black conservative' is sorta oxymoronic, but overall, it's good to be progressive, a leader. condi, on the other hand :tape:

Lord Nelson
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:02 AM
She's black and conservative.

To many blacks in the country thats like treason. Which is retarded, but I won't touch that.

Condi was the speaker at my high school graduation one year and she's a really great woman. Along with Michael Steele shes one of the rising conservative black leaders.

I'm happy because they're finally showing that blacks don't have to be so one-dimensional.
The funny thing is that many blacks are conservative but they try and seperate themselves from white conservatives. Take Mississippi state. It is pretty conservative with a large black population. But the mayor and governor who are democrats seem pretty conservative to me. Blacks there are conservative. Farrakhan, Martin Luther, Malcolm X etc.. are all conservative.

Black Mamba.
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:04 AM
IMO it has nothing to do with her being a Conservative. I'm black and I consider myself a moderate conservative and the reason I don't like Condi is she is all about herself and she doesn't seem to have a mind of her own. If just being conservative were the real issue then why is Collin Powell still one of the most respected Black men in the Black community.

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:05 AM
it's more than her just being conservative.

i mean the term 'black conservative' is sorta oxymoronic, but overall, it's good to be progressive, a leader. condi, on the other hand :tape:
how is it an oxymoron?

I should correct myself. I would say most blacks are conservative morally. Or at least a large portion, its just that fiscally they're not because of a variety of issues.

And let me guess you think shes a puppet right :rolleyes:

ampers&
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:06 AM
I've learned many deragatory words used for blacks from "Drawn Together". :lol:

me too...:lol::o

Black Mamba.
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:06 AM
¨The funny thing is that many blacks are conservative but they try and seperate themselves from white conservatives. Take Mississippi state. It is pretty conservative with a large black population. But the mayor and governor who are democrats seem pretty conservative to me. Blacks there are conservative.


I agree with this statement. On moral issues many Blacks tend to be very conservative, but in terms of social issues many Blacks tend to be liberal. The problem is that many times the goals of white conservatives on social issues differ from black conservatives and as a result we are often forced to make a difficult choice.

Rocketta
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:08 AM
what the hell is drawn together? :scratch:

Black Mamba.
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:08 AM
what the hell is drawn together? :scratch:

It's an Animated show on Comedy Central

harloo
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:10 AM
The funny thing is that many blacks are conservative but they try and seperate themselves from white conservatives. Take Mississippi state. It is pretty conservative with a large black population. But the mayor and governor who are democrats seem pretty conservative to me. Blacks there are conservative. Farrakhan, Martin Luther, Malcolm X etc.. are all conservative.
Lord Nelson I agreed with you until your last sentence.

Farrakhan conservative? Malcom X conservative? Me thinks not!:lol:

spokenword73
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:10 AM
It reminds me of the time Harry Belafonte called Colin Powell a "house negro." I thought that was a little harsh...Condi on the other is the ultimate house negress...which in my mind is what a coon is...

BTW one of my co-workers and I were talking about Condi today and we both wondered why we never see any of her family members? Dad and Mom are still living far as I know.

What is Condi ashamed of them or something? :shrug:

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:10 AM
it's like the best shor evar! :p

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z02mkCnG_g4

:spit: :tape: :o

i know, right! easily one of the best shows on tv!

harloo
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:11 AM
And girl do you remember Tisha Campbell licking Giancarlo Espositio's scalp. :tape: :lol:

And that scene with Samuel L Jackson meeting Larry Fishburne and other students at the chicken place. That scene had some power! Spike! :worship:

I have to rent School Daze again because I forgot how good it was. I do remember Tisha and her big foehead though. ;)

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:13 AM
IMO it has nothing to do with her being a Conservative. I'm black and I consider myself a moderate conservative and the reason I don't like Condi is she is all about herself and she doesn't seem to have a mind of her own. If just being conservative were the real issue then why is Collin Powell still one of the most respected Black men in the Black community.
True, but I disagree that she doesn't think for herself.

I just read up on Condi and she is VERY accomplished, and knows her shit.

I just think that she agrees with George more than most people do, and it just seems that way. They supposedly have one of the closest relationships since Nixon and Kissinger.

I just think their philosophy matches up pretty congruently. Maybe thats why people hate her

Rocketta
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:14 AM
it's like the best show evar! :p
watch that video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z02mkCnG_g4

:spit: :tape: :o

what the hell is that.....:eek: :scared: :unsure: :lol:

what channel does this come on? :tape:

Rocketta
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:14 AM
This one is worse. :eek:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bHZiDfrLO7A&search=Drawn%20Together%20Board%20Education

Rocketta
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:16 AM
" I got a mayonaise mama on my licking hole" ! :scared: :haha:

That's just wrong. :tape:

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:17 AM
how is it an oxymoron?

I should correct myself. I would say most blacks are conservative morally. Or at least a large portion, its just that fiscally they're not because of a variety of issues.

And let me guess you think shes a puppet right :rolleyes:

well sure, there's some issues that i'm conservative about, but overall i'm a liberal. i don't think i've ever met a black conservative. i know there are some, but meeting a black person whose views are predominantly conservative in new york is rare.

i don't have a favorable opinion of condi, but it's not because i don't think she's 'black enough'. it's more of her policies and outlook that i don't like. i don't like the bush administration. she's a vital part of that. it's really that simple in my book.

Dawn Marie
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:18 AM
Yeah that's it! :haha:

Spike was da man back then. :lol:

I love this movie. I wanted to harm the light skinned chics. They pissed me off during the show and that song and dance grated my nerve but rang true.


I like it when the guys came out stepping. G-FYE-G

And then they did that Daddy long Legs.. or something to that affect.

WAKE UP! WAKE UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. alram clocks rings.

Oh I love this film.:)

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:19 AM
" I got a mayonaise mama on my licking hole" ! :scared: :haha:

That's just wrong. :tape:

it's not that racist against blacks though --- i mean foxxy is like the most rational person in the house and they all look up to her. the white princess is the racist one. it's hilarious.

toot is my favorite character though, followed closely by ling ling and foxxy.

*JR*
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:19 AM
Err, can you call a black CIA agent a spook? :tape:

harloo
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:21 AM
This one is worse. :eek:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bHZiDfrLO7A&search=Drawn%20Together%20Board%20Education

This black chicks tounge.

Wrong on so many levels! :tape: :haha: :haha:

Rocketta
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:21 AM
I love this movie. I wanted to harm the light skinned chics. They pissed me off during the show and that song and dance grated my nerve but rang true.


I like it when the guys came out stepping. G-FYE-G

And then they did that Daddy long Legs.. or something to that affect.

WAKE UP! WAKE UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. alram clocks rings.

Oh I love this film.:)

Oh me too! :yeah:

Rocketta
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:22 AM
This black chicks tounge.

Wrong on so many levels! :tape: :haha: :haha:

I know. :lol:

Black Mamba.
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:22 AM
True, but I disagree that she doesn't think for herself.

I just read up on Condi and she is VERY accomplished, and knows her shit.

I just think that she agrees with George more than most people do, and it just seems that way. They supposedly have one of the closest relationships since Nixon and Kissinger.

I just think their philosophy matches up pretty congruently. Maybe thats why people hate her


I'm sure she does, but if she supports Bush then that is her right, but don't put her in front of the camera when the policies you implement aren't well received by minorities.

Dawn Marie
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:26 AM
Ah this is "drawn together". I just happen to flick thru channels last week and saw this cartoon. I saw the episode of the girl wanting a new vagina. It was hilarious. I will have to keep watching this. lol.

dementieva's fan
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:27 AM
This one is worse. :eek:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bHZiDfrLO7A&search=Drawn%20Together%20Board%20Education
:haha:

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:27 AM
well sure, there's some issues that i'm conservative about, but overall i'm a liberal. i don't think i've ever met a black conservative. i know there are some, but meeting a black person whose views are predominantly conservative in new york is rare.

i don't have a favorable opinion of condi, but it's not because i don't think she's 'black enough'. it's more of her policies and outlook that i don't like. i don't like the bush administration. she's a vital part of that. it's really that simple in my book.
Good :yeah:

That opinion I like. I just hate when people say she's "not black"

Rocketta
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:28 AM
Good :yeah:

That opinion I like. I just hate when people say she's "not black"

with that nappy head? Why on earth would anyone say she's not black? :tape: She's like almost straight from the mother land. :lol: Now does she want to be black well that's another discussion. :hehehe:

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:33 AM
i don't think she's ashamed of who she is...she's never given that indication. she's very unapologetic and i respect that. but she's on bush's administration. what gives? :scared:

i dunno, with condi, i think she could have a positive influence on the black community but she chooses not to. but that can be said for many blacks in power.

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:34 AM
it's like the best show evar!
watch that video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z02mkCnG_g4


_________________
!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :spit: :haha: !!!!!!!!!!

so so so so sos true though :tape: :o

OMG its so true :lol:

Infiniti2001
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:35 AM
Poor condi, the woman tried to fix her weave and she still can't garner any sympathy from people.:lol:


:lol: Does she use sponge rollers ?? I mean a weave should be free flowing, but hers?? :eek: :haha:

harloo
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:36 AM
:lol: Does she use sponge rollers ?? I mean a weave should be free flowing, but hers?? :eek: :haha:

Infinti, that made me crack up. Sponge rollers? Not the pink ones.:lol:

Rocketta
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:36 AM
:lol: Does she use sponge rollers ?? I mean a weave should be free flowing, but hers?? :eek: :haha:

oh dang, is old girl wearing a weave now? :lol: Shows how much I pay attention to her. :haha:

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:36 AM
i don't think she's ashamed of who she is...she's never given that indication. she's very unapologetic and i respect that. but she's on bush's administration. what gives? :scared:

i dunno, with condi, i think she could have a positive influence on the black community but she chooses not to. but that can be said for many blacks in power.
You know, I think the thing is she doesn't place importance on her blackness. She is who she is, and thinks the way she thinks.

I think she wants to be respected for the way she thinks not the color of her skin. Its irrelavent. I think Michael Steele would agree, and for that I respect them because thats my opinion 100%.

Its very much like something I read yesterday that someone called Richard III the best gay male of all time. It wasn't because of anything he did for gay people, it was what he did as King and the fact that he was gay was an afterthought. That latter fact is why he was the best of all time.

I mean isn't that what minorities, all of them, should strive for :shrug:

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:37 AM
i'm so glad drawn together has fans.

can't wait for the third season.

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:39 AM
You know, I think the thing is she doesn't place importance on her blackness. She is who she is, and thinks the way she thinks.

I think she wants to be respected for the way she thinks not the color of her skin. Its irrelavent. I think Michael Steele would agree, and for that I respect them because thats my opinion 100%.

Its very much like something I read yesterday that someone called Richard III the best gay male of all time. It wasn't because of anything he did for gay people, it was what he did as King and the fact that he was gay was an afterthought. That latter fact is why he was the best of all time.

I mean isn't that what minorities, all of them, should strive for :shrug:

i agree wholeheartedly. :yeah:
that's why i don't like her. i don't agree with her policies, her skin color has nothing to do with it.

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:40 AM
with that nappy head? Why on earth would anyone say she's not black? :tape: She's like almost straight from the mother land. :lol: Now does she want to be black well that's another discussion. :hehehe:
:tape:

oh no you didn't :lol:

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:42 AM
i'm so glad drawn together has fans.

can't wait for the third season.
that show is a hoot. Its so unforgiving, I love it. It comes on tonight does it not?

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:43 AM
that show is a hoot. Its so unforgiving, I love it. It comes on tonight does it not?

wednesday nights on comedy central.
season 2 ended last week :sobbing:

i hated all the captain hero centered episodes. i think toot, ling ling, and foxxy are the best. the first two get the least amount of storylines though, that's annoying.

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:46 AM
I believe it was a genuine slip of the tongue. Maybe Condi will wake up and realize that she is a women of color now. She prolly looked in each direction and wondered who he was calling a coon. Hell she prolly laughed at the joke until she realized it was "ON HER" HAHAHAH "On HER". get it on her and ON HER, in like the color of her skin on her. lmao.


Anyway, I think it was all a genuine slip of the tongue.:haha: :haha: It'll NEVER happen. That scuz is tooo far gone. :lol:

CondiSLEAZA is what my high school friends and I refer to as a "House Puppy". :tape:
She's satisfied with sniffing the the azz and walking at the heals of her master. And let's not forget about the choice table scraps tosses her every once in a while.
What a waste.

As far as this guy saying coon, it sounds like he's thought this many times about her and made a subconscious 'slip'. Doesn't mean he's incorrect though. :tape: :lol:

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:54 AM
She's black and conservative.

To many blacks in the country thats like treason. Which is retarded, but I won't touch that.

Condi was the speaker at my high school graduation one year and she's a really great woman. Along with Michael Steele shes one of the rising conservative black leaders.

I'm happy because they're finally showing that blacks don't have to be so one-dimensional.If that's what you belive, then you have been living under a rock. :lol:
And please don't speak for me. :wavey:

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:58 AM
If that's what you belive, then you have been living under a rock. :lol:
And please don't speak for me. :wavey:
I corrected myself in my definition. And since 95% of black people aren't conservative, many is true.

That doesn't mean you, perse, but many doesn't mean all ;)

~ The Leopard ~
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:59 AM
If I owned the station, I would lose faith in someone who made that kind of slip of the tongue. Makes you wonder what he was thinking and what he might accidentally say next time.

If he sues for wrongful dismissal, I want to represent the employer. :cool:

kiwifan
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:13 AM
She's black and conservative.

To many blacks in the country thats like treason. Which is retarded, but I won't touch that.

I'm happy because they're finally showing that blacks don't have to be so one-dimensional.:cool:


I'm reading a great book on the history and influence of Black music in the USA and it starts pre-slavery. For a embarrassingly long period of time (pre-Civil War to pretty much WW II) entertainers advertised in Blackface as "Real Coons" and The Best Coons etc.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/1900s_SM_Coon_Coon_Coon.jpg/200px-1900s_SM_Coon_Coon_Coon.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1900s_SM_Coon_Coon_Coon.jpg) http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1900s_SM_Coon_Coon_Coon.jpg)
Darky iconography frequently adorned the covers of sheet music from the 1870s through the 1940s, but virtually disappeared by the 1950s.



I personally first heard the term in the movie version of M*A*S*H where during a football game the bad guys called one of the M*A*S*H team a "coon" and another black member (whose nickname is also a racial slur ;) ) of the team told the angry black player not to get mad because that's why the guy was calling him names, to take him out of the game.

I learned the "keep a level head in the face of racism", lesson early...

thanks Mr. Altman. :angel:

PS. I like Condi

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:19 AM
It reminds me of the time Harry Belafonte called Colin Powell a "house negro." I thought that was a little harsh...Condi on the other is the ultimate house negress...which in my mind is what a coon is...

BTW one of my co-workers and I were talking about Condi today and we both wondered why we never see any of her family members? Dad and Mom are still living far as I know.

What is Condi ashamed of them or something? :shrug:I often wondered about that as well. Is she afraid of what conservatives will think? :lol:

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:22 AM
I often wondered about that as well. Is she afraid of what conservatives will think? :lol:
Condi's a very very private person.

I highly doubt she wants her family to be looked into. I sure know I wouldn't.

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:26 AM
I corrected myself in my definition. And since 95% of black people aren't conservative, many is true.I noticed later on after reader further. :wavey: :kiss:
That doesn't mean you, perse, but many doesn't mean all ;)Again, :wavey:
You know, she's just so accommodating. And also, we all know darn well that bush is HITTING that every chance he gets. That's why her hair is always nappy right before speeches. :tape: :lol:
Personally, I'd be willing to turn Laura out. ;)

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:31 AM
Condi's a very very private person.

I highly doubt she wants her family to be looked into. I sure know I wouldn't.Or maybe they don't agree with her political position. :p :)

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:32 AM
I noticed later on after reader further. :wavey: :kiss:
Again, :wavey:
You know, she's just so accommodating. And also, we all know darn well that bush is HITTING that every chance he gets. That's why her is always nappy before speeches. :tape: :lol:
Personally, I'd be willing to turn Laura out. ;)
:tape:

No comment, :lol:

Infiniti2001
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:37 AM
I noticed later on after reader further. :wavey: :kiss:
Again, :wavey:
You know, she's just so accommodating. And also, we all know darn well that bush is HITTING that every chance he gets. That's why her hair is always nappy right before speeches. :tape: :lol:
Personally, I'd be willing to turn Laura out. ;)

You are so wrong for that :tape: Nah, I wonder if she's a robot like Laura :lol:

vogus
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:39 AM
Good question-- he made matters worse by saying how fantastic she is and how he'd work on her presidential campaign. I think he should be fired for that :rolleyes: Meanwhile , I think he would have been better off if he said that she is a priggish, delusional, self-centered liar. :tape:


it's kind of ironic that this guy called Rice a coon in the same breath that he was gratuitously kissing her hardline right-wing ass.

harloo
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:57 AM
You know, I think the thing is she doesn't place importance on her blackness. She is who she is, and thinks the way she thinks.



I don't think most black folks expect Condi to wear African garb, have a liberal ideology on every issue, or even support every black cause.

However they don't expect her to shoe shop in NYC while people that look like her are drowning in a sea of piss and feces. And then have the nerve to defend the actions of her boss even though many Americans thought the inaction of the President was despicable.

When you do the dance with a smile on your face with full knowledge that you are defending evil works that's called cooning. If she would of had the balls to call out the President on his inaction during the Katrina fiasco maybe I would of respected her more. However, she chose to go along with the cover up. Sad.

Condi has repeatedly defended the President's lies, but Katrina was the last straw in my opinion. ;)

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:14 AM
I don't think most black folks expect Condi to wear African garb, have a liberal ideology on every issue, or even support every black cause.

However they don't expect her to shoe shop in NYC while people that look like her are drowning in a sea of piss and feces. And then have the nerve to defend the actions of her boss even though many Americans thought the inaction of the President was despicable.

When you do the dance with a smile on your face with full knowledge that you are defending evil works that's called cooning. If she would of had the balls to call out the President on his inaction during the Katrina fiasco maybe I would of respected her more. However, she chose to go along with the cover up. Sad.

Condi has repeatedly defended the President's lies, but Katrina was the last straw in my opinion. ;) :worship: :worship: That's about how I feel.

See, I half expected her to do the 'Colin Powell Shuffle' and get the heck outta dodge. But nope. She decided to shuck any teeny tiny bit of credibility she had left and go shopping during a catastrophe.
What a shame and a waste. :sad:

Ari
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:20 AM
It reminds me of the time Harry Belafonte called Colin Powell a "house negro." I thought that was a little harsh...Condi on the other is the ultimate house negress...which in my mind is what a coon is...

BTW one of my co-workers and I were talking about Condi today and we both wondered why we never see any of her family members? Dad and Mom are still living far as I know.

What is Condi ashamed of them or something? :shrug:

No, both her mom and dad are dead. Her Mom died in 2005: of breast cancer I believe. Her Dad died in 2000.

SelesFan70
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:24 AM
Err, can you call a black CIA agent a spook? :tape:

Apparently you can if said black CIA agent isn't kissing Jesse or Al's ass... :wavey:

The hypocrisy on this board never ceases to amaze me. Had the radio host called almost any other black person a "coon" there would moral outrage on this board and no one would be able to defend the radio personality. :rolleyes:

SelesFan70
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:26 AM
I don't think most black folks expect Condi to wear African garb, have a liberal ideology on every issue, or even support every black cause.

However they don't expect her to shoe shop in NYC while people that look like her are drowning in a sea of piss and feces. And then have the nerve to defend the actions of her boss even though many Americans thought the inaction of the President was despicable.

When you do the dance with a smile on your face with full knowledge that you are defending evil works that's called cooning. If she would of had the balls to call out the President on his inaction during the Katrina fiasco maybe I would of respected her more. However, she chose to go along with the cover up. Sad.

Condi has repeatedly defended the President's lies, but Katrina was the last straw in my opinion. ;)

So you and ReeVeeDynasty stopped living your lives while "people that looked like her" were "drowning in a sea of piss and feces"? How commendable. :worship:

Stamp Paid
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:29 AM
with that nappy head? Why on earth would anyone say she's not black? :tape: She's like almost straight from the mother land. :lol: Now does she want to be black well that's another discussion. :hehehe:

:lol: Does she use sponge rollers ?? I mean a weave should be free flowing, but hers?? :eek: :haha:

OMG :spit: :spit:

I am dying over here! :sobbing:

SelesFan70
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:31 AM
I corrected myself in my definition. And since 95% of black people aren't conservative, many is true.

95%? Wow...I'd like to see the links that confirm those statistics.

Stamp Paid
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:33 AM
Apparently you can if said black CIA agent isn't kissing Jesse or Al's ass... :wavey:

The hypocrisy on this board never ceases to amaze me. Had the radio host called almost any other black person a "coon" there would moral outrage on this board and no one would be able to defend the radio personality. :rolleyes:

Well in this case, this radio personality "called a spade a spade," so to speak. :spit:

Stamp Paid
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:36 AM
Well in this case, this radio personality "called a spade a spade," so to speak. :spit:

And LMAO @ the hypocrisy, Selesfan if he had called some regular old black person a 'coon,' and not the Top black conservative, you know you wouldn't care either way and if you did, you'd probably be defending the guy for making an obvious mistake!

harloo
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:53 AM
So you and ReeVeeDynasty stopped living your lives while "people that looked like her" were "drowning in a sea of piss and feces"? How commendable. :worship:


Selesfan, I never thought you were a total idiot until I read your statement above. You are comparing me and ReeVeeDynasty to The Secretary Of State? She works for the taxpayers and part of her job is to protect this country and it's citizens.

Stop being such a Bushbot.:rolleyes:

Dawn Marie
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:58 AM
I don't think most black folks expect Condi to wear African garb, have a liberal ideology on every issue, or even support every black cause.

However they don't expect her to shoe shop in NYC while people that look like her are drowning in a sea of piss and feces. And then have the nerve to defend the actions of her boss even though many Americans thought the inaction of the President was despicable.

When you do the dance with a smile on your face with full knowledge that you are defending evil works that's called cooning. If she would of had the balls to call out the President on his inaction during the Katrina fiasco maybe I would of respected her more. However, she chose to go along with the cover up. Sad.

Condi has repeatedly defended the President's lies, but Katrina was the last straw in my opinion. ;)

AMEN.

Condi's brain is smart but it is a waste to many people who really need it. Her smarts are being wasted on pure waste itself. She likes to consume the asses of racist white people. She kisses them all. She is a pathetic smart women who enjoys to kiss asses of dirty trash asses who don't even care if she was lynched yesterday or tomorrow.

Condi can't see the forest for the trees or in her case the BUSH.

harloo
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:01 AM
:worship: :worship: That's about how I feel.

See, I half expected her to do the 'Colin Powell Shuffle' and get the heck outta dodge. But nope. She decided to shuck any teeny tiny bit of credibility she had left and go shopping during a catastrophe.
What a shame and a waste. :sad:

At least Colin finally woke up and realized the truth about this adminstration. I always hoped that he would decide to run for President, he was such a honorable man BB(before bush).

Then he sold that lie to the UN about the Weapons Of Mass Destruction with that computer generated presentation. I stll feel that he can redeem himself though.;)

Infiniti2001
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:06 AM
Apparently you can if said black CIA agent isn't kissing Jesse or Al's ass... :wavey:

The hypocrisy on this board never ceases to amaze me. Had the radio host called almost any other black person a "coon" there would moral outrage on this board and no one would be able to defend the radio personality. :rolleyes:

Look in your mirror :rolleyes:

Dawn Marie
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:07 AM
I dont' have any respect for people who self hate. She is surrounding herself with a whitehouse full of people who don't like her own American people. Her own ancestors. I just have a problem with people who choose to ignore those people who are at a disadvantage. All for what? her career? To defend a racist man who hates you is a pathetic way to live.

I have a problem with Black folks who are republicans. I am like get your head out of your ass and WAKE UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP WAKE UP!! You never forget the disadvantaged people black.white or whatever color.

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:13 AM
So you and ReeVeeDynasty stopped living your lives while "people that looked like her" were "drowning in a sea of piss and feces"? How commendable. :worship: :confused: :scratch: :confused:
Ummm...? Come again?

Dawn Marie
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:16 AM
Apparently you can if said black CIA agent isn't kissing Jesse or Al's ass... :wavey:

The hypocrisy on this board never ceases to amaze me. Had the radio host called almost any other black person a "coon" there would moral outrage on this board and no one would be able to defend the radio personality. :rolleyes:

You really need to research black culture.

Also I would have been ticked off if I really felt it was on purpose. It really seems like it was a genuine slip. Even tho Condi is anti black I still would have been ticked if it was stated with the wrong intentions. Even though I don't like Condi I would have been personally pissed because he or she wouldn't care about Condi's tomism but did it for all of those who do love ourselves to hear over the radio. His tone didn't feel like he wanted to hurt me or my american fellow people.

Bush is laughing at the remark right now in the White House while Condi is shining his shoes.

Dawn Marie
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:22 AM
So you and ReeVeeDynasty stopped living your lives while "people that looked like her" were "drowning in a sea of piss and feces"? How commendable. :worship:

Monica has retired so why, why oh why can't you? lol

You're just not getting it kiddo. :confused:

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:26 AM
At least Colin finally woke up and realized the truth about this adminstration. I always hoped that he would decide to run for President, he was such a honorable man BB(before bush).

Then he sold that lie to the UN about the Weapons Of Mass Destruction with that computer generated presentation. I still feel that he can redeem himself though.;)Yeah, I guess. But he's still quite an enigma to me. I still have no idea where he stands.
One day, he's totally for this White House.
The next, he's resigning and coming out against certain aspects of the administration.
Then he's for the war effort again.
Then says that he [in essence] trusted the sources and White House Staff.

So, my feelings are that he's purely a military man who believes and does what he is told; which isn't a good thing when running a government. He still seems to have no individual thought.
In that regard, I think he'd be an awful President. But that's just my take.

harloo
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:00 AM
Yeah, I guess. But he's still quite an enigma to me. I still have no idea where he stands.
One day, he's totally for this White House.
The next, he's resigning and coming out against certain aspects of the administration.
Then he's for the war effort again.
Then says that he [in essence] trusted the sources and White House Staff.

So, my feelings are that he's purely a military man who believes and does what he is told; which isn't a good thing when running a government. He still seems to have no individual thought.
In that regard, I think he'd be an awful President. But that's just my take.

I agree to some extent concerning him not having any backbone in regards to his stance on certain issues. However, do you think his military experience would of been beneficial to fighting terrorism if he became President? It's obvious Cheney doesn't know what he's doing because we all know he runs the show.:o

I was reading an interview with Colin and he was talking about how he became such an outcast for going against the grain. He advised against going into Iraq because of the infastructure and the projections of an unsucessful campaign and was shot down repeatedly.

If the dems don't wake up from their stupor, I would rather see him running than Jeb, Guiliani, or the Terminator. :scared: :scared:

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:14 AM
I agree to some extent concerning him not having any backbone in regards to his stance on certain issues. However, do you think his military experience would of been beneficial to fighting terrorism if he became President? It's obvious Cheney doesn't know what he's doing because we all know he runs the show.:o

I was reading an interview with Colin and he was talking about how he became such an outcast for going against the grain. He advised against going into Iraq because of the infastructure and the projections of an unsucessful campaign and was shot down repeatedly.

If the dems don't wake up from their stupor, I would rather see him running than Jeb, Guiliani, or the Terminator. :scared: :scared:Yeah, I believe that his military experience would be beneficial in the fight against terrorism. As long as he himself is running the show. But I'm not so sure about him being strong enough. :shrug: Remember, his strength is in taking orders.

I recall all those reports of fights between him and Cheney. :lol: but in the end Cheney is still there while Colin has quit. As far as a Presidential choice...
It's a scary thought, but I prefer :scared: Colin...:scared:

harloo
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:23 AM
Yeah, I believe that his military experience would be beneficial in the fight against terrorism. As long as he himself is running the show. But I'm not so sure about him being strong enough. :shrug: Remember, his strength is in taking orders.

I recall all those reports of fights between him and Cheney. :lol: but in the end Cheney is still there while Colin has quit. As far as a Presidential choice...
It's a scary thought, but I prefer :scared: Colin...:scared:

The dems better come with a tough candidate because I've been hearing buzz about Guiliani and you know he will be a tough , and I don't know if even Hillary can take him down. She would have to fight him and diabold.:tape:

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :lol:

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 07:09 AM
I don't think most black folks expect Condi to wear African garb, have a liberal ideology on every issue, or even support every black cause.

However they don't expect her to shoe shop in NYC while people that look like her are drowning in a sea of piss and feces. And then have the nerve to defend the actions of her boss even though many Americans thought the inaction of the President was despicable.

When you do the dance with a smile on your face with full knowledge that you are defending evil works that's called cooning. If she would of had the balls to call out the President on his inaction during the Katrina fiasco maybe I would of respected her more. However, she chose to go along with the cover up. Sad.

Condi has repeatedly defended the President's lies, but Katrina was the last straw in my opinion. ;)


OK so its her fault that a hurricane happened? why should she not buy shoes? that doens't make anysense. Just because black people are suffering doesn't mean that she shouldn't buy shoes that she can afford. Dude/Lady black people suffer EVERYDAY. So that means YOU shouldn't spend the money that you do, according to you. Please. Honestly Katrina...that was unfortuante. But the black people who suffered suffered becuase they lived in a low-socioeconomic area. As a low SES place they didn't have many resources. The people who PAID for those resources got them and thats it.

Its called Capitalism. People who don't have money suffer whileas those who do profit. It's the way the system works. If you don't like it, move to France. We're not a sociolist economy. Those towns that had money should NOT have let the other people come in to use their resources becuase thehy didn't pay the taxes for those resources. Period. Black, white, hispanic I don't care. We're a capitalist society. Race doesn't matter. Sure there was a disproportionate amount of blacks suffering because a disporportionate amount of blacks are poor to begin with. 25% of blacks are below the poverty line, of COURSE most of those people were going to be black.

Anyway good for her buying those shoes. The idea that everyone should rollover and fork over all their hard earned money or feel bad just because people who happen to have the same melanin count are suffering is rediculous. I think its laughable that you guys call her doing "evil" works when SHES the one making history SHES the one opening SO many doors for you, your children and so on. Goddamn give hte woman some respect for helping YOUR race (and mine too). She may or may not share your views, and thats fine, but fucking give the woman some props for being in a position that NO ONE EVEN CLOSE has come to with her melanin count. It should be irrelavent, but honestly at least give her props for coming from Alabama to the 4th most powerful post in the country. If not the world.

Lord Nelson
Mar 24th, 2006, 11:59 AM
I dont' have any respect for people who self hate. She is surrounding herself with a whitehouse full of people who don't like her own American people. Her own ancestors. I just have a problem with people who choose to ignore those people who are at a disadvantage. All for what? her career? To defend a racist man who hates you is a pathetic way to live.

I have a problem with Black folks who are republicans. I am like get your head out of your ass and WAKE UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP WAKE UP!! You never forget the disadvantaged people black.white or whatever color.
This is probably the most ridiculous post that I read on wta forums on this subject. My God I pity your relatives who are conservative because in case you do not know blacks can be conservative. You also seem to be yourself a racist, the very thing that you claim to detest. So being a white republican means that you are automatically racist? Who thought you all this trash? ALso how would it sound if I said that all whites should vote republican. Sounds silly right? Well so does what you say on that all blacks should vote for democrats.
Republicans and democrats should have a mixed electorate and hopefully racists like you will eventually realize that people have different values.

spokenword73
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:20 PM
Condi's a very very private person.

I highly doubt she wants her family to be looked into. I sure know I wouldn't.

Well, she is the Secretary of State of the United States. Can't really be a private person with a position like that.

Condi is closer to the Bush family than she is to her own. Condi worked for Daddy Bush too. Someone told me once that Condi is the illegitamate child of one of the Bush men.:lol:

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:53 PM
This is probably the most ridiculous post that I read on wta forums on this subject. My God I pity your relatives who are conservative because in case you do not know blacks can be conservative. You also seem to be yourself a racist, the very thing that you claim to detest. So being a white republican means that you are automatically racist? Who thought you all this trash? ALso how would it sound if I said that all whites should vote republican. Sounds silly right? Well so does what you say on that all blacks should vote for democrats.
Republicans and democrats should have a mixed electorate and hopefully racists like you will eventually realize that people have different values.
I couldn't agree more. Very well said.

Sally Struthers
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:45 PM
This is probably the most ridiculous post that I read on wta forums on this subject. My God I pity your relatives who are conservative because in case you do not know blacks can be conservative. You also seem to be yourself a racist, the very thing that you claim to detest. So being a white republican means that you are automatically racist? Who thought you all this trash? ALso how would it sound if I said that all whites should vote republican. Sounds silly right? Well so does what you say on that all blacks should vote for democrats.
Republicans and democrats should have a mixed electorate and hopefully racists like you will eventually realize that people have different values.

:yeah: You should know by now that most of the people who have dominated this particular discussion are the most racist people on the board and hold it hostage under the threat of calling you a racist if you disagree with them. :tape:

Black Mamba.
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:47 PM
OK so its her fault that a hurricane happened? why should she not buy shoes? that doens't make anysense. Just because black people are suffering doesn't mean that she shouldn't buy shoes that she can afford. Dude/Lady black people suffer EVERYDAY. So that means YOU shouldn't spend the money that you do, according to you. Please. Honestly Katrina...that was unfortuante. But the black people who suffered suffered becuase they lived in a low-socioeconomic area. As a low SES place they didn't have many resources. The people who PAID for those resources got them and thats it.

Its called Capitalism. People who don't have money suffer whileas those who do profit. It's the way the system works. If you don't like it, move to France. We're not a sociolist economy. Those towns that had money should NOT have let the other people come in to use their resources becuase thehy didn't pay the taxes for those resources. Period. Black, white, hispanic I don't care. We're a capitalist society. Race doesn't matter. Sure there was a disproportionate amount of blacks suffering because a disporportionate amount of blacks are poor to begin with. 25% of blacks are below the poverty line, of COURSE most of those people were going to be black.

Anyway good for her buying those shoes. The idea that everyone should rollover and fork over all their hard earned money or feel bad just because people who happen to have the same melanin count are suffering is rediculous. I think its laughable that you guys call her doing "evil" works when SHES the one making history SHES the one opening SO many doors for you, your children and so on. Goddamn give hte woman some respect for helping YOUR race (and mine too). She may or may not share your views, and thats fine, but fucking give the woman some props for being in a position that NO ONE EVEN CLOSE has come to with her melanin count. It should be irrelavent, but honestly at least give her props for coming from Alabama to the 4th most powerful post in the country. If not the world.


She can buy shoes whenever she wants, but when it appears that she doesn't care about the plight of African Americans that live in the same states she grew up in, it looks bad for her. Rightly or wrongly that is the way it is. The thing about people, not just African Americans, is that you can't ignore them, press policies that negatively impact them, and expect them to care when bad things happen to you or come to your defense when you don't care about them. She hasn't opened any doors for anyone and she certainly hasn't helped "my" race out. When she was at Stanford she didn't open up doors for more minorites or more women. Condi is about herself and no one else and that's fine and that's her right, and I know other folks are about themselves too ( Al Sharpton, Armstrong Williams, Jessie Jackson), but when you are that way some people won't like or respect you. As I've said before I don't have anything personal against the lady, but to say she has opened doors just because of her pigment is the same as others saying she should've felt bad because people of her same race were suffering while she was buying shoes.

lizchris
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:58 PM
While there is nothing wrong with buying shoes, doing so the day after the hurricane just looked bad. That is why she hightailed it to Alabama the Sunday after the hurricane hit.

alfonsojose
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:04 PM
Coon ?

CC
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:08 PM
Nice boots. :p


http://isaacschrodinger.typepad.com/isaacschrodinger/images/condi.jpg

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:11 PM
Lenihan was listing what assets Rice could bring to the league, including her tenure as a top academic officer at Stanford University and the fact that she is African-American.

“She’s just got a patent resume, of somebody that’s got such serious skill,” Linehan said on the air. “She loves football, she’s African-American, which would kind of be a big coon, a big coon – oh my God, I am totally, totally, totally, totally, totally sorry for that, OK? I didn’t mean that. That was just a slip of the tongue.” Lenihan later said he meant to use the word "coup."

Reached at home, Lenihan said he was still trying to figure out what happened, and was drafting a letter of apology to Rice.

"I was trying to say 'quite a coup' but it came out 'coon,"' he said. "I caught myself and apologized. It wasn't anything I was meaning to say. I never use that word.

"I think she's a fantastic woman. I was even talking about if she ran for president, I'd work on her campaign."

He said his biggest fear is that his choice of words tarnished the image of St. Louis and the baseball team, which is a part-owner of the station.

"It was my dream job," he said. "Ratings were going well. It kind of stinks."

Lenihan, who had previously been with radio station WGNU, was part of the recently reshuffled lineup at KTRS since half of the station was acquired by the St. Louis Cardinals. He had a morning talk show.

The Associated Press contributed information for this story.

Good intentions; horrible execution. I’d fire him. I realize that broadcasters are human but you take a job of this nature, one where you have a direct link to influence people, with the understanding that there are certain things you cannot say on the air. Has the Janet Jackson Super Bowl debacle taught this man nothing?! Come on, he should’ve upped his resistance to making such a faux pas after seeing the FCC go after everyone post-Nipplegate. Idiot.

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:15 PM
If it was a mistake I feel a bit sorry for him but the station should not rehire him - the mixed signals that would send would only lead to more problems.

Absolutely. Make an example of him to all broadcasters. They're well paid, we at least most are, so the self-control needed to get through a show without saying these types of things should be relatively easy.

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:18 PM
Coooon? WTF! I have never ever even heard this word before! Is it specifically for black people? 'Cause why have I never heard it... I mean, when exactly do people use this word? I am like great! There are even more racial slurs than the ones that already exist. Fantastic. This world just gets better and better.

Did you grow up in Nigeria? If you didn't, then I'm so surprised that you aren't familiar with "coon". Your generation uses the terms as does mine as does generations past.

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:27 PM
The funny thing is that many blacks are conservative but they try and seperate themselves from white conservatives. Take Mississippi state. It is pretty conservative with a large black population. But the mayor and governor who are democrats seem pretty conservative to me. Blacks there are conservative. Farrakhan, Martin Luther, Malcolm X etc.. are all conservative.

Have you l...

Nevermind.

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:45 PM
You know, I think the thing is she doesn't place importance on her blackness. She is who she is, and thinks the way she thinks.

It’s too bad that she can’t. I don’t think it would look bad to the Bush Administration if Condoleeza was more visible in our community; other black politicians are but then again they don’t have as much on the line as she does. The Republicans, as we all know, wouldn’t see it that way (if she showed attention-getting interest in the black community), though it’s perfectly OK for other politicians to publicly embrace their Irish, Italian and Jewish heritage, for example.

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:49 PM
The hypocrisy on this board never ceases to amaze me. Had the radio host called almost any other black person a "coon" there would moral outrage on this board and no one would be able to defend the radio personality. :rolleyes:

True. If he had referred to Oprah as a "coon", he would've been black-balled.
Pun intended.

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 04:51 PM
AMEN.

Condi's brain is smart but it is a waste to many people who really need it. Her smarts are being wasted on pure waste itself. She likes to consume the asses of racist white people. She kisses them all. She is a pathetic smart women who enjoys to kiss asses of dirty trash asses who don't even care if she was lynched yesterday or tomorrow.

Condi can't see the forest for the trees or in her case the BUSH.

Comical in so many ways but a truthful post nonetheless.

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 05:14 PM
:yeah: You should know by now that most of the people who have dominated this particular discussion are the most racist people on the board and hold it hostage under the threat of calling you a racist if you disagree with them. :tape:
I love how no-one has responded to the truth :tape:

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 05:16 PM
I dont' have any respect for people who self hate.

Neither do I, and not just re: race. I despise any form of self-hate.

She is surrounding herself with a whitehouse full of people who don't like her own American people. Her own ancestors. I just have a problem with people who choose to ignore those people who are at a disadvantage. All for what? her career? To defend a racist man who hates you is a pathetic way to live.

It sounds like you’re isolating your stance based on how her administration handled the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Are you?

Frankly, I think she only got the appointment primarily because she’s black.

I have a problem with Black folks who are republicans. I am like get your head out of your ass and WAKE UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP WAKE UP!! You never forget the disadvantaged people black.white or whatever color.

I don’t. Many of the Populists are pro-working class and helping them maintain themselves.

SJW
Mar 24th, 2006, 05:18 PM
I love how no-one has responded to the truth :tape:

we all know your views on a particular demographic on this board. no need to :tape: it. :):wavey:

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 05:19 PM
Yeah, I guess. But he's still quite an enigma to me. I still have no idea where he stands.
One day, he's totally for this White House.
The next, he's resigning and coming out against certain aspects of the administration.
Then he's for the war effort again.
Then says that he [in essence] trusted the sources and White House Staff.

So, my feelings are that he's purely a military man who believes and does what he is told; which isn't a good thing when running a government. He still seems to have no individual thought.
In that regard, I think he'd be an awful President. But that's just my take.

I couldn’t agree more. Had he been elected, Colin Powell would’ve been the David Dinkins of US Presidents. Dreadful.

spokenword73
Mar 24th, 2006, 06:01 PM
Nice boots. :p


http://isaacschrodinger.typepad.com/isaacschrodinger/images/condi.jpg

You strut, Miss Coondi...er... I mean Ms. Condi...go girl...

Nice boots indeed. (I love how they show the African Americans bunch up in the corner):lol:

The thing that kills me about Republicans, is they say we shouldn't care that Condi is black, yet whenever they try to say she is running for Prez, they act like other black people will vote for her because of her race.:o

*JR*
Mar 24th, 2006, 06:25 PM
Nice boots. :p


http://isaacschrodinger.typepad.com/isaacschrodinger/images/condi.jpg
Some of those cheering kids in uniform will probably DIE in a war that Condi helped Cheney, Rummy (and oh yeah, Dubya) needlessly create. She won't, she'll just fly into Iraq in total secrecy every few months, to protect her own safety. :rolleyes:

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 06:30 PM
(I love how they show the African Americans bunch up in the corner):lol:

And Condoleeza has her back to them. As usual.

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 06:34 PM
:yeah: You should know by now that most of the people who have dominated this particular discussion are the most racist people on the board and hold it hostage under the threat of calling you a racist if you disagree with them. :tape:

But, Sally, how objective can YOU be about race? You have an atrocious track record on this board, as if to suggest you only play Devil's Advocate in these racial discussions. It's not like if you'd own up to it even when it's glaringly racist. Anyway, play your position. You do it convicingly. It's probably not be that different from your TRUE feelings.

Sally Struthers
Mar 24th, 2006, 06:54 PM
But, Sally, how objective can YOU be about race? You have an atrocious track record on this board, as if to suggest you only play Devil's Advocate in these racial discussions. It's not like if you'd own up to it even when it's glaringly racist. Anyway, play your position. You do it convicingly. It's probably not be that different from your TRUE feelings.

Right. :rolleyes: "Atrocious" because I don't agree with some of the things people say, then you call me a racist :lol: You are pathetic :wavey:

And judging from the # of good reps I recieved for saying what I did, I know I'm not alone in that assessment :tape: :lol:

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 07:05 PM
Right. :rolleyes: "Atrocious" because I don't agree with some of the things people say, then you call me a racist :lol: You are pathetic :wavey:

Sally, the point is that you only show up in these threads to play Devil’s Advocate. If you actually agreed that racism was the issue, you wouldn’t even bother posting on that specific topic.

Your track record speaks for itself.

And pathetic is somebody who looks to rep points for gratification.

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 07:27 PM
But, Sally, how objective can YOU be about race? You have an atrocious track record on this board, as if to suggest you only play Devil's Advocate in these racial discussions. It's not like if you'd own up to it even when it's glaringly racist. Anyway, play your position. You do it convicingly. It's probably not be that different from your TRUE feelings.
I think the fact that she doesn't have a direct bias makes her more objective than any of the other people actively engaged in the conversation, IMO.

Sally Struthers
Mar 24th, 2006, 07:28 PM
Sally, the point is that you only show up in these threads to play Devil’s Advocate. If you actually agreed that racism was the issue, you wouldn’t even bother posting on that specific topic.

Your track record speaks for itself.

And pathetic is somebody who looks to rep points for gratification.

Hon, I wouldn't post anything I didn't believe in the serious topics threads just to stir up shit. The man was a dumbass and clearly should have been fired.

I don't know what it is with you, Reeveedynasty, jigglypuff, dawn marie, etc... you're like the fucking borg collective, thinking together as one and trying to assimilate everyone. Someone told me you're a sobered up Dawn Marie but I can't be sure :lol: ;) You're all pathetic. Here's what usually happens. Someone says something you don't like and you then comdemn them as a racist. Then the whole group comes and gangs up on the "offending" person, giving each other "pats on the back" and congratulating one another for putting that person in their place. You really end up looking like a pack of jackasses :tape: Pathetic.

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 07:28 PM
we all know your views on a particular demographic on this board. no need to :tape: it. :):wavey:
well SJW forgive me for injecting an alternative view ;)

But I mean, I'll agree to disagree. Its what makes America so great, the ability to have different opinions :)

Even though I'm a deluded spoiled kid in a bubble living under a rock at least I can see that ;)

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 07:32 PM
Hon, I wouldn't post anything I didn't believe in the serious topics threads just to stir up shit. The man was a dumbass and clearly should have been fired.

I don't know what it is with you, Reeveedynasty, jigglypuff, dawn marie, etc... you're like the fucking borg collective, thinking together as one and trying to assimilate everyone. Someone told me you're a sobered up Dawn Marie but I can't be sure :lol: ;) You're all pathetic. Here's what usually happens. Someone says something you don't like and you then comdemn them as a racist. Then the whole group comes and gangs up on the "offending" person, giving each other "pats on the back" and congratulating one another for putting that person in their place. You really end up looking like a pack of jackasses :tape: Pathetic.
Preach it, :lol:

I mean its true though. I really think the "racist" term gets abused by some. Not necessarily you all, even though that may be true, but many.

And also, you all seem to perceive to be the defining quality of what being "black" is and therefore speak for the whole population in saying that anyone detracting from your views isn't up to par.

Sally Struthers is right.

BUT instead of calling you names or ranting about how deluded you are, I'll just that those are your opinions, you're intitled to them and many people agree with you. You have a right to those opinions, a right to elect people who share those opinions, and a right to disagree and dissent from people who don't share those opinions. So you can hate on Condi, I'll hate on Hillary.

Its a good system.

SJW
Mar 24th, 2006, 07:41 PM
well SJW forgive me for injecting an alternative view ;)

But I mean, I'll agree to disagree. Its what makes America so great, the ability to have different opinions :)

Even though I'm a deluded spoiled kid in a bubble living under a rock at least I can see that ;)

i remember your posts in the "ask black people anything" thread.
stopped looking down your nose at black people yet?

ico4498
Mar 24th, 2006, 08:12 PM
i've a question for the posters that have issues with black conservatives.

is it the (American) party affiliation or general conservative philosophy that yah take exception to? both?

from the outside looking in, it seems the republican party is unwilling to make direct overtures to black America 'cause it'll probably alienate parts of their core constituency.

the democrats, otoh, have little need to do much more than mouth some pleasing sounds come election time. they expect the black vote by default and treat it with the respect generally accorded something gained too easily.

i'm a natural conservative but that just seems like a choice 'tween the devil and the deep blue sea.

Black Mamba.
Mar 24th, 2006, 08:32 PM
i've a question for the posters that have issues with black conservatives.

is it the (American) party affiliation or general conservative philosophy that yah take exception to? both?

from the outside looking in, it seems the republican party is unwilling to make direct overtures to black America 'cause it'll probably alienate parts of their core constituency.

the democrats, otoh, have little need to do much more than mouth some pleasing sounds come election time. they expect the black vote by default and treat it with the respect generally accorded something gained too easily.

i'm a natural conservative but that just seems like a choice 'tween the devil and the deep blue sea.


This is the root of the problem for many Blacks. On one hand we have a party that takes Black people for granted and only pays lip service to the issues that effect Black people, on the other hand we have a party that doesn't even bother. Both choices are rotten, but you have to choose and often times that choice is difficult when you agree with both parties on certain issues.

spokenword73
Mar 24th, 2006, 08:47 PM
i've a question for the posters that have issues with black conservatives.

is it the (American) party affiliation or general conservative philosophy that yah take exception to? both?

from the outside looking in, it seems the republican party is unwilling to make direct overtures to black America 'cause it'll probably alienate parts of their core constituency.

the democrats, otoh, have little need to do much more than mouth some pleasing sounds come election time. they expect the black vote by default and treat it with the respect generally accorded something gained too easily.

i'm a natural conservative but that just seems like a choice 'tween the devil and the deep blue sea.

Black people ARE the Democratic party. :wavey: Without our vote the Dems would lose every election even worst than they have at late. I just wish we would realize we are the core and demand our interests be priorities...

Few blacks have any love for the GOP. Republicans just aren't a viable alternative...epecially when Ken Mehlman, whenever he speaks to a black group says stuff like "We are the party of Lincoln" :rolleyes:.

Like we are supposed to be impressed.

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 09:07 PM
;) OK so its her fault that a hurricane happened? why should she not buy shoes? that doens't make anysense. Just because black people are suffering doesn't mean that she shouldn't buy shoes that she can afford. Dude/Lady black people suffer EVERYDAY. So that means YOU shouldn't spend the money that you do, according to you. Please. Honestly Katrina...that was unfortuante. But the black people who suffered suffered becuase they lived in a low-socioeconomic area. As a low SES place they didn't have many resources. The people who PAID for those resources got them and thats it.

Its called Capitalism. People who don't have money suffer whileas those who do profit. It's the way the system works. If you don't like it, move to France. We're not a sociolist economy. Those towns that had money should NOT have let the other people come in to use their resources becuase thehy didn't pay the taxes for those resources. Period. Black, white, hispanic I don't care. We're a capitalist society. Race doesn't matter. Sure there was a disproportionate amount of blacks suffering because a disporportionate amount of blacks are poor to begin with. 25% of blacks are below the poverty line, of COURSE most of those people were going to be black.

Anyway good for her buying those shoes. The idea that everyone should rollover and fork over all their hard earned money or feel bad just because people who happen to have the same melanin count are suffering is rediculous. I think its laughable that you guys call her doing "evil" works when SHES the one making history SHES the one opening SO many doors for you, your children and so on. Goddamn give hte woman some respect for helping YOUR race (and mine too). She may or may not share your views, and thats fine, but fucking give the woman some props for being in a position that NO ONE EVEN CLOSE has come to with her melanin count. It should be irrelavent, but honestly at least give her props for coming from Alabama to the 4th most powerful post in the country. If not the world. :lol: SMM, I don't think even you believed what you wrote.

Condi creating Hurricane Katrina; shopping the day after a catastrophic storm [not being symbolically significant]; or this being a simple expression of Capitalism.
Come on.
I've read your posts, and you are one smart individual. So why whittle the discussion down to gross misinterpretations?

I realize that you admire Ms. Rice, and I have no problem with that really. It's personal choice and I understand. But Ms. Rice is 'who she is'—a Charlie McCarthy to Bush's Edgar Bergen. And loyalty is one thing, but 'blind loyalty' is quite another still.

I believe that a wise and moral representative knows when and how to project confidence. Ms. Rice projects 'object' doubt among her own people. That's telling.

A wise representative knows how to convey empathy during catastrophic events. Morally and empathetically, Ms. Rice failed horribly. By going shopping and attending a Broadway show at a time when her leadership, comforting words, would have meant something to thousands . Having Southern roots herself, displaying empathy during such a disaster would have been very symbolic, wouldn't you think? You do realize that her father was a minister? So would it be so far-fetched to believe she'd offer some comforting words to these people? Yet all she did was issue a [hollow] press release 2 full weeks after the catastrophe ... http://usembassy.state.gov/poland/rice_statement.html
She is a COLD HARD woman.

And the day after, she had this to say... http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_247155007.html

I once heard a description of Ms. Rice. The statement was that, “she is a perfect Black female clone of George Bush.” They both refuse to take personal responsibility for mistakes made . They are both adept at embellishing the truth. And they both use God as a convenient tool when the going gets rough, rather than FIX the problems that we the people expect of their lofty [responsible] offices. And now I understand what was meant by that statement.
However, while Bush finally came out and admitted mistakes, Ms. Rice [i]STILL maintains to this day that they did everything 'right' and that nothing more could have been done. And if memory serves, she made the exact same statement concerning the war in Iraq.

This is why she is so disliked/despised by not only her own 'people', but anyone with an observable eye. She's a fake and a phony, who's looking out for #1...just like the boyfriend she's protecting.
Again, you can admire her all you like, but she is who she is, and it's evident in her every act.

Oh, and a couple of things I need to add...
You wrote above that race doesn't matter. Are you [b]serious?!?!?!?!
You stated “...SHES the one opening SO many doors for you, your children and so on.”It looks to have been stated out of pure frustration, but I still must ask. HOW is she opening doors for me and my children?

Lastly, the reason why few replied to Sally Struthers post is because no one takes her seriously. Especially when she's [i]spewing her racism mantra. She's really quite pathetic. Also don't understand why she can't seem to post without attacking someone, rather than responding to the topic. :shrug: Whether immaturity or booze induced, she should seriously get checked out.
My advise is try not to fall for it. She's one piece of work that you r-e-a-l-ly- don't want to be associated with. ;)

RVD
Mar 24th, 2006, 09:28 PM
Hon, I wouldn't post anything I didn't believe in the serious topics threads just to stir up shit. The man was a dumbass and clearly should have been fired.

I don't know what it is with you, Reeveedynasty, jigglypuff, dawn marie, etc... you're like the fucking borg collective, thinking together as one and trying to assimilate everyone. Someone told me you're a sobered up Dawn Marie but I can't be sure :lol: ;) You're all pathetic. Here's what usually happens. Someone says something you don't like and you then comdemn them as a racist. Then the whole group comes and gangs up on the "offending" person, giving each other "pats on the back" and congratulating one another for putting that person in their place. You really end up looking like a pack of jackasses :tape: Pathetic.I didn't know you cared so deeply. ;) But a question for you...

Why is it that every time you enter a discussion, it immediately takes a dive? :confused: Don't be fooled. I'm asking seriously.

Incidentally, before bad repping me, try using a spell-check first. Then I could at least understand the insult. :hehehe:

Black Mamba.
Mar 24th, 2006, 09:31 PM
;) :lol: SMM, I don't think even you believed what you wrote.

Condi creating Hurricane Katrina; shopping the day after a catastrophic storm [not being symbolically significant]; or this being a simple expression of Capitalism.
Come on.
I've read your posts, and you are one smart individual. So why whittle the discussion down to gross misinterpretations?

I realize that you admire Ms. Rice, and I have no problem with that really. It's personal choice and I understand. But Ms. Rice is 'who she is'—a Charlie McCarthy to Bush's Edgar Bergen. And loyalty is one thing, but 'blind loyalty' is quite another still.

I believe that a wise and moral representative knows when and how to project confidence. Ms. Rice projects 'object' doubt among her own people. That's telling.

A wise representative knows how to convey empathy during catastrophic events. Morally and empathetically, Ms. Rice failed horribly. By going shopping and attending a Broadway show at a time when her leadership, comforting words, would have meant something to thousands . Having Southern roots herself, displaying empathy during such a disaster would have been very symbolic, wouldn't you think? You do realize that her father was a minister? So would it be so far-fetched to believe she'd offer some comforting words to these people? Yet all she did was issue a [hollow] press release 2 full weeks after the catastrophe ... http://usembassy.state.gov/poland/rice_statement.html
She is a COLD HARD woman.

And the day after, she had this to say... http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_247155007.html

I once heard a description of Ms. Rice. The statement was that, “she is a perfect Black female clone of George Bush.” They both refuse to take personal responsibility for mistakes made . They are both adept at embellishing the truth. And they both use God as a convenient tool when the going gets rough, rather than FIX the problems that we the people expect of their lofty [responsible] offices. And now I understand what was meant by that statement.
However, while Bush finally came out and admitted mistakes, Ms. Rice [i]STILL maintains to this day that they did everything 'right' and that nothing more could have been done. And if memory serves, she made the exact same statement concerning the war in Iraq.

This is why she is so disliked/despised by not only her own 'people', but anyone with an observable eye. She's a fake and a phony, who's looking out for #1...just like the boyfriend she's protecting.
Again, you can admire her all you like, but she is who she is, and it's evident in her every act.

Oh, and a couple of things I need to add...
You wrote above that race doesn't matter. Are you [b]serious?!?!?!?!
You stated It looks to have been stated out of pure frustration, but I still must ask. HOW is she opening doors for me and my children?

Lastly, the reason why few replied to Sally Struthers post is because no one takes her seriously. Especially when she's [i]spewing her racism mantra. She's really quite pathetic. Also don't understand why she can't seem to post without attacking someone, rather than responding to the topic. :shrug: Whether immaturity or booze induced, she should seriously get checked out.
My advise is try not to fall for it. She's one piece of work that you r-e-a-l-ly- don't want to be associated with. ;)


:worship:

K.U.C.W-R.V
Mar 24th, 2006, 10:05 PM
Hon, I wouldn't post anything I didn't believe in the serious topics threads just to stir up shit. The man was a dumbass and clearly should have been fired.

I don't know what it is with you, Reeveedynasty, jigglypuff, dawn marie, etc... you're like the fucking borg collective, thinking together as one and trying to assimilate everyone. Someone told me you're a sobered up Dawn Marie but I can't be sure :lol: ;) You're all pathetic. Here's what usually happens. Someone says something you don't like and you then comdemn them as a racist. Then the whole group comes and gangs up on the "offending" person, giving each other "pats on the back" and congratulating one another for putting that person in their place. You really end up looking like a pack of jackasses :tape: Pathetic.

Get with the programme Miss Struthers. The WTAWorld Thought Police WILL NOT tolerate dissent.

...Even though they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOO liberal & openminded. :tape: :tape: :tape:


Obey the sacred tenets. Repeat the matra...

Inside every Conservative is a Nazi screaming to get out.

Every night white males fantasize about gang-raping women & sending blacks to the gas-chambers.

NEVER EVER judge non-Western cultures, and never judge anyone unless they appear to be a right-winger.

Black Republicans are race traitors, worthy of nothing but contempt.

Blacks who hate whites are not racist, they are fighting the power!

Christians are VERY dangerous, but we'll give Muslims a pass because they're oppressed.

The US is fascist.

Capitalism is evil.

Ignore empirical evidence, Socialism works.

Bush is Hitler.

There is something really fishy about 9/11 - Zionist conspiracy anyone?!

Israel is fascist.

& last but not least....ITS ALL ABOUT THE F*CKING OIL!!!! :armed:

Err... & WORLD DOMINATION!!!

Death to America! Death to America! Death to America!

*JR*
Mar 24th, 2006, 10:09 PM
..... But Ms. Rice is 'who she is'—a Charlie McCarthy to Bush's Edgar Bergen.....
If you think Bush runs this clown show, then:

You don't know DICK! :devil:

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 10:21 PM
i remember your posts in the "ask black people anything" thread.
stopped looking down your nose at black people yet?
you know, that was a long time ago.

I'm older and wiser now. (Or at least I better be or I want my $45k back :tape: )

And while I'm not going to pretend that I don't think of myself as more....cultured? I dunno how to say it tactfully, I know that I'm better than some white trash Britney Spears, that feeling that I hope everyone has. I Know I have that feeling for a lot of people.

But not for black people JUST because they're black. Or anybody based upon what they look like. Its because of how people act. I dont' like it when people are ignorant and retarded, like Britney. I dislike her ass because she puts her baby on her lap like an idiot and parades around time shaming herself. It wouldn't make a difference if she were white, black, or orange. Its still shameful.

Now is it right to think you're better than anyone? No, we're all equal in god's eyes.
But I do, sometimes. I'll admit to that with no qualms at all.

But I'll be damned if I hate on others for the sole reason of a quality they can't control. I hate on people for being trifling. I'm not saying thats a good thing, but at least get my prejiduce right.

Pardon my Beyonce.

spokenword73
Mar 24th, 2006, 10:44 PM
Get with the programme Miss Struthers. The WTAWorld Thought Police WILL NOT tolerate dissent.

...Even though they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOO liberal & openminded. :tape: :tape: :tape:


Obey the sacred tenets. Repeat the matra...

Inside every Conservative is a Nazi screaming to get out.

Every night white males fantasize about gang-raping women & sending blacks to the gas-chambers.

NEVER EVER judge non-Western cultures, and never judge anyone unless they appear to be a right-winger.

Black Republicans are race traitors, worthy of nothing but contempt.

Blacks who hate whites are not racist, they are fighting the power!

Christians are VERY dangerous, but we'll give Muslims a pass because they're oppressed.

The US is fascist.

Capitalism is evil.

Ignore empirical evidence, Socialism works.

Bush is Hitler.

There is something really fishy about 9/11 - Zionist conspiracy anyone?!

Israel is fascist.

& last but not least....ITS ALL ABOUT THE F*CKING OIL!!!! :armed:

Err... & WORLD DOMINATION!!!

Death to America! Death to America! Death to America!

:rolleyes:

CJ07
Mar 24th, 2006, 10:56 PM
;) :lol: SMM, I don't think even you believed what you wrote.

Condi creating Hurricane Katrina; shopping the day after a catastrophic storm [not being symbolically significant]; or this being a simple expression of Capitalism.
Come on.
I've read your posts, and you are one smart individual. So why whittle the discussion down to gross misinterpretations?

I realize that you admire Ms. Rice, and I have no problem with that really. It's personal choice and I understand. But Ms. Rice is 'who she is'—a Charlie McCarthy to Bush's Edgar Bergen. And loyalty is one thing, but 'blind loyalty' is quite another still.

I believe that a wise and moral representative knows when and how to project confidence. Ms. Rice projects 'object' doubt among her own people. That's telling.

A wise representative knows how to convey empathy during catastrophic events. Morally and empathetically, Ms. Rice failed horribly. By going shopping and attending a Broadway show at a time when her leadership, comforting words, would have meant something to thousands . Having Southern roots herself, displaying empathy during such a disaster would have been very symbolic, wouldn't you think? You do realize that her father was a minister? So would it be so far-fetched to believe she'd offer some comforting words to these people? Yet all she did was issue a [hollow] press release 2 full weeks after the catastrophe ... http://usembassy.state.gov/poland/rice_statement.html
She is a COLD HARD woman.

And the day after, she had this to say... http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_247155007.html

I once heard a description of Ms. Rice. The statement was that, “she is a perfect Black female clone of George Bush.” They both refuse to take personal responsibility for mistakes made . They are both adept at embellishing the truth. And they both use God as a convenient tool when the going gets rough, rather than FIX the problems that we the people expect of their lofty [responsible] offices. And now I understand what was meant by that statement.
However, while Bush finally came out and admitted mistakes, Ms. Rice [i]STILL maintains to this day that they did everything 'right' and that nothing more could have been done. And if memory serves, she made the exact same statement concerning the war in Iraq.

This is why she is so disliked/despised by not only her own 'people', but anyone with an observable eye. She's a fake and a phony, who's looking out for #1...just like the boyfriend she's protecting.
Again, you can admire her all you like, but she is who she is, and it's evident in her every act.

Oh, and a couple of things I need to add...
You wrote above that race doesn't matter. Are you [b]serious?!?!?!?!
You stated It looks to have been stated out of pure frustration, but I still must ask. HOW is she opening doors for me and my children?

Lastly, the reason why few replied to Sally Struthers post is because no one takes her seriously. Especially when she's [i]spewing her racism mantra. She's really quite pathetic. Also don't understand why she can't seem to post without attacking someone, rather than responding to the topic. :shrug: Whether immaturity or booze induced, she should seriously get checked out.
My advise is try not to fall for it. She's one piece of work that you r-e-a-l-ly- don't want to be associated with. ;)
I already said I was drunk when I wrote that :tape:

But about the Katrina issue, I mean heres my two cents.

Now first of all, I'm not going to pretend I know much about it. So you can say "go read up on it before you say anything" (Katrina was during a huge party weekend, hardly anyone noticed it here....going to a rich New Hampshire college=people don't care about the news :shrug: I'm not saying its good, but its true). But I did watch a 60 Minutes special on it and from it I got a few things

1) People were mad because people (mainly blacks) couldn't cross the bridge into the other town
2) The said town was given no provisions.

Now, I can only talk about these two pieces. I know there are many others.

All I can say is that while I understand its a bad situation, if you're in a town that has resources, those resources should be allocated to its citizens, and its citizens only. Now if they have left over stuff, and they're OK then sure help out your neighboor. But in the situation that they were in, nobody knew what they fuck was going on I'd be damned if I gave up anything to non-tax paying citizens. Sure most of them were black. Conspiracy? Racism? Possibly. But from a pure economic standpoint, you get what you pay for. If you're in poverty you cant just expect things to come to you. Even in a disaster time. Its capitalism.

Is that good? No. Even in a capitalistic society you'd think there'd be something set up for EMERGENCY situations. There is, but its shit.

And....

Actually.

You know what I'm not going to touch that. Because I don't know enough about it, and er...umm. Maybe, just MAYBE the Dem's make some sense about this.

































Ok, Ok you're right if those people weren't black they'd get over that bridge in a hurry :tape: :tape: :o

SelesFan70
Mar 25th, 2006, 12:24 AM
Get with the programme Miss Struthers. The WTAWorld Thought Police WILL NOT tolerate dissent.

...Even though they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOO liberal & openminded. :tape: :tape: :tape:


Obey the sacred tenets. Repeat the matra...

Inside every Conservative is a Nazi screaming to get out.

Every night white males fantasize about gang-raping women & sending blacks to the gas-chambers.

NEVER EVER judge non-Western cultures, and never judge anyone unless they appear to be a right-winger.

Black Republicans are race traitors, worthy of nothing but contempt.

Blacks who hate whites are not racist, they are fighting the power!

Christians are VERY dangerous, but we'll give Muslims a pass because they're oppressed.

The US is fascist.

Capitalism is evil.

Ignore empirical evidence, Socialism works.

Bush is Hitler.

There is something really fishy about 9/11 - Zionist conspiracy anyone?!

Israel is fascist.

& last but not least....ITS ALL ABOUT THE F*CKING OIL!!!! :armed:

Err... & WORLD DOMINATION!!!

Death to America! Death to America! Death to America!

Good try, but the moonbats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbat) won't get it... :lol:

~ The Leopard ~
Mar 25th, 2006, 12:27 AM
I'd "do" Condi. :) :lick:

harloo
Mar 25th, 2006, 12:29 AM
;) :lol: SMM, I don't think even you believed what you wrote.

Condi creating Hurricane Katrina; shopping the day after a catastrophic storm [not being symbolically significant]; or this being a simple expression of Capitalism.
Come on.
I've read your posts, and you are one smart individual. So why whittle the discussion down to gross misinterpretations?

I realize that you admire Ms. Rice, and I have no problem with that really. It's personal choice and I understand. But Ms. Rice is 'who she is'—a Charlie McCarthy to Bush's Edgar Bergen. And loyalty is one thing, but 'blind loyalty' is quite another still.

I believe that a wise and moral representative knows when and how to project confidence. Ms. Rice projects 'object' doubt among her own people. That's telling.

A wise representative knows how to convey empathy during catastrophic events. Morally and empathetically, Ms. Rice failed horribly. By going shopping and attending a Broadway show at a time when her leadership, comforting words, would have meant something to thousands . Having Southern roots herself, displaying empathy during such a disaster would have been very symbolic, wouldn't you think? You do realize that her father was a minister? So would it be so far-fetched to believe she'd offer some comforting words to these people? Yet all she did was issue a [hollow] press release 2 full weeks after the catastrophe ... http://usembassy.state.gov/poland/rice_statement.html
She is a COLD HARD woman.

And the day after, she had this to say... http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_247155007.html

I once heard a description of Ms. Rice. The statement was that, “she is a perfect Black female clone of George Bush.” They both refuse to take personal responsibility for mistakes made . They are both adept at embellishing the truth. And they both use God as a convenient tool when the going gets rough, rather than FIX the problems that we the people expect of their lofty [responsible] offices. And now I understand what was meant by that statement.
However, while Bush finally came out and admitted mistakes, Ms. Rice [i]STILL maintains to this day that they did everything 'right' and that nothing more could have been done. And if memory serves, she made the exact same statement concerning the war in Iraq.

This is why she is so disliked/despised by not only her own 'people', but anyone with an observable eye. She's a fake and a phony, who's looking out for #1...just like the boyfriend she's protecting.
Again, you can admire her all you like, but she is who she is, and it's evident in her every act.

Oh, and a couple of things I need to add...
You wrote above that race doesn't matter. Are you [b]serious?!?!?!?!
You stated It looks to have been stated out of pure frustration, but I still must ask. HOW is she opening doors for me and my children?

Lastly, the reason why few replied to Sally Struthers post is because no one takes her seriously. Especially when she's [i]spewing her racism mantra. She's really quite pathetic. Also don't understand why she can't seem to post without attacking someone, rather than responding to the topic. :shrug: Whether immaturity or booze induced, she should seriously get checked out.
My advise is try not to fall for it. She's one piece of work that you r-e-a-l-ly- don't want to be associated with. ;)

I was about to respond, but this is right on point. :worship: :worship: :worship:

RVD
Mar 25th, 2006, 01:19 AM
If you think Bush runs this clown show, then:

You don't know DICK! :devil::haha: It took me a loooong 5 seconds before I got that. :lol: :worship:

RVD
Mar 25th, 2006, 01:21 AM
:rolleyes::lol: I know. What was that all about? :shrug: :tape:

Dawn Marie
Mar 25th, 2006, 02:48 AM
Neither do I, and not just re: race. I despise any form of self-hate.



It sounds like you’re isolating your stance based on how her administration handled the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Are you?

Frankly, I think she only got the appointment primarily because she’s black.



I don’t. Many of the Populists are pro-working class and helping them maintain themselves.


I don't like Condi ONLY because of Hurricane Katrina. I dislike her because she is involved in the racist Bush administration. Racist folks who would lynch Condi's parents and grandparents, and even Condi herself. I don't support Bush nor do I support Condi. Yeah of course she is in there because her skintone IS what we consider of brown skin.. black if you will. Condi is a racist regarding her own people because she is supporting racist who don't like black people. Yet Condi would rather kill herself with Bush's noose then fight for her ancestors rights. Condi may be picked because her skin is black but she was picked even more because her mind is a BUSH. So Bush gets over. A black TOKEN in the WHITE house.

Republicans suck and if you're black and a republican then I feel for you. . Sure some republicans are conservative.. OR WHAT I CALL TRYING TO CONTROL PEOPLE WITH THEIR OWN SICK HANGUPS. Some think abortions should be banned.What if they decided to go back to sitting on the back of the bus.?? You can't have it both ways. To tell me that I cannot have an abortion with MY OWN body then turn around and wish to have the same rights as the whites is stupid. In other words. IMHO feeling that it is OKAY to tell a women that she CANNOT do what she wishes to with her body then turn around and want the same freedom with YOU OWN body to sit in the front of the bus is plain stupid. When you really think about it. I am for FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION,SPEECH and FREEDOM of WOMENS rights of doing what I wish to do with my own body. They need to legalize prostituion already.. sheesh this is 2006. Oh but wait.. that would make alot.. ALOT of women quite POWERFUL. lol

DevilishAttitude
Mar 25th, 2006, 02:22 PM
I'm really shocked at a few people in this thread... :unsure:

I don't know Conderwhateverhernameis but is calling her a *coon* is just wrong, specially since if anyone white person was calling her this like the host, we'd get banned.

And I doubt most people in this thread would have no problem being called a coon.

Maybe it's the humour but I just don't think it's right.

SJW
Mar 25th, 2006, 02:37 PM
you know, that was a long time ago.

like...a year?

I'm older and wiser now. (Or at least I better be or I want my $45k back :tape: )

i should hope you are. or the real world could have been a nasty, rude awakening call for you.

And while I'm not going to pretend that I don't think of myself as more....cultured? I dunno how to say it tactfully, I know that I'm better than some white trash Britney Spears, that feeling that I hope everyone has. I Know I have that feeling for a lot of people.

what makes you more cultured, though? you don't become more cultured by just reading a book.

But not for black people JUST because they're black. Or anybody based upon what they look like. Its because of how people act. I dont' like it when people are ignorant and retarded, like Britney. I dislike her ass because she puts her baby on her lap like an idiot and parades around time shaming herself. It wouldn't make a difference if she were white, black, or orange. Its still shameful.

i agree.

Now is it right to think you're better than anyone? No, we're all equal in god's eyes.
But I do, sometimes. I'll admit to that with no qualms at all.

But I'll be damned if I hate on others for the sole reason of a quality they can't control. I hate on people for being trifling. I'm not saying thats a good thing, but at least get my prejiduce right.

Pardon my Beyonce.

you know this isn't true LOL.

Kunal
Mar 25th, 2006, 04:47 PM
haha

JonBcn
Mar 27th, 2006, 07:45 PM
They were right to sack him. She's the antichrist, and should only be named as such.