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Mother_Marjorie
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:27 PM
Excerpt from her official website:

"Justine was given the greenlight, and had a good test run on Tuesday with a practice session with no pain. The Belgian champion will play her first match this Friday against the winner of Meghann Shaughnessy versus Mara Santangelo to be played today (Wednesday)."

frenchie
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:29 PM
Before the AO final she also said she felt no pain :rolleyes:

Mother_Marjorie
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:32 PM
Before the AO final she also said she felt no pain :rolleyes:

What does that have to do with Miami???? I know that may seem a little far beyond your grasp, but I like to allow the mentally-challenged an opportunity to explain themselves.

Mightymirza
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:34 PM
ohh yeah sooo relieved..Justine go get em all..

selesbooz
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:35 PM
....until she loses

CC
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:38 PM
K. Right. Hmmhmm.

Mother_Marjorie
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:46 PM
ohh yeah sooo relieved..Justine go get em all..

Yeah, I get the feeling there are a few here that was counting on Justine withdrawing so their favs might have a better chance of going further in the draw.

Some of them are participating in this thread.

Too bad :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

rottweily
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:57 PM
Yeah, I get the feeling there are a few here that was counting on Justine withdrawing so their favs might have a better chance of going further in the draw.

Some of them are participating in this thread.

Too bad :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Indeed :lol:

Drake1980
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:59 PM
Awesome :banana:

thrust
Mar 22nd, 2006, 04:40 PM
Win it all Justine!!

griffin
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:43 PM
What does that have to do with Miami???? I know that may seem a little far beyond your grasp, but I like to allow the mentally-challenged an opportunity to explain themselves.

Speaking for myself (I had the same first thought), I would think "what it has to do with Miami" is fairly obvious.

Athletes sometimes chose not to share all the gory details about injuries they may have - and any weaknesses in their games that might result - for strategic purposes. Its perfectly reasonable. Why let an opponent know you're having trouble with your serve/backhand/movement/whatever and give them ideas about what and how to attack? Judging by Australia, I'd say Justine is one of those athletes. She may be telling the truth, or she may just not feel like helping the women on the other side of the net.

I'm not sure why pointing that out requires such a knee-jerk reaction.

If she really is pain free, I certainly hope she stays that way. I just won't take a press release's word for it.

Mother_Marjorie
Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:28 PM
Speaking for myself (I had the same first thought), I would think "what it has to do with Miami" is fairly obvious.

Athletes sometimes chose not to share all the gory details about injuries they may have - and any weaknesses in their games that might result - for strategic purposes. Its perfectly reasonable. Why let an opponent know you're having trouble with your serve/backhand/movement/whatever and give them ideas about what and how to attack? Judging by Australia, I'd say Justine is one of those athletes. She may be telling the truth, or she may just not feel like helping the women on the other side of the net.

I'm not sure why pointing that out requires such a knee-jerk reaction.

If she really is pain free, I certainly hope she stays that way. I just won't take a press release's word for it.

No where on her official website "press release" does Justine claim that she's not injured. In fact, she states she is "pain free", and sought medical advice as to whether or not she is fit to play in Miami. Of course, everyone saw on national television that her knee was giving her problems during the final at IW.

Yet, I still don't see the parallels between the AO and Miami. Considering that what happened in Australia appeared to be that of acute illness caused from taking oral medications (stomach ulcer) and not injury, there's absolutely no connection. I just don't see it.

In fact, when the person mentioned AO with a " :rolleyes: ", it was appearant to me they didn't get IT either.

Considering that so many play with injuries and have battled injuries over the years (like Amelie Mauresmo for example), it should be considered "good" news when they say they are "pain free", instead of the obligatory " :rolleyes: ".

Wouldn't you say?

LoveFifteen
Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:32 PM
....until she loses

So true! :tape:

Mother_Marjorie
Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:35 PM
So true! :tape:

Well, at least Justine is tough enough to play through her injuries and the competition. Its not like she retired because of injury and the growing competition, only to wait three years to try a comeback.

CrossCourt~Rally
Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:37 PM
GOOD LUCK JUSTINE!! :worship: :bounce:

F-R-E-A-K
Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:38 PM
Allez :yeah:

Justine Fan
Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:01 PM
Yeah, I get the feeling there are a few here that was counting on Justine withdrawing so their favs might have a better chance of going further in the draw.

Some of them are participating in this thread.

Too bad :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Most definitely :yeah: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Justine Fan
Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:05 PM
Well, at least Justine is tough enough to play through her injuries and the competition. Its not like she retired because of injury and the growing competition, only to wait three years to try a comeback.

That's right - Hingis retired cause she couldn't take the William Sister's power :lol: :lol: :lol:

Funny how she came back when Vee & Ree don't play that much isn't it? :lol: :lol:

RJWCapriati
Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:07 PM
Excerpt from her official website:

"Justine was given the greenlight, and had a good test run on Tuesday with a practice session with no pain. The Belgian champion will play her first match this Friday against the winner of Meghann Shaughnessy versus Mara Santangelo to be played today (Wednesday)."


:yeah:

KuznetsovaLova
Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:08 PM
That's right - Hingis retired cause she couldn't take the William Sister's power :lol: :lol: :lol:

Funny how she came back when Vee & Ree don't play that much isn't it? :lol: :lol:


pathetic :rolleyes:

i love hingis :)

alibaby
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:50 AM
That's right - Hingis retired cause she couldn't take the William Sister's power :lol: :lol: :lol:

Funny how she came back when Vee & Ree don't play that much isn't it? :lol: :lol:
in all respect,but i think,you are going a bit down the drain...IMO,martina does not need to fear any of the WS,thats for sure!i think,she started again,just when she felt,she was ready,but surely NOT,because the WS are constantly missing....

but hey,this thread is about justine,so im just happy,she can make it there,and i wish her all the best!! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :hug:

minihil
Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:09 PM
in all respect,but i think,you are going a bit down the drain...IMO,martina does not need to fear any of the WS,thats for sure!i think,she started again,just when she felt,she was ready,but surely NOT,because the WS are constantly missing....

but hey,this thread is about justine,so im just happy,she can make it there,and i wish her all the best!! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :hug:

well said. Justine and Martina both have a lot of respect of each other. As a Justine supporter, I think we should show respect to Hingis as well.

Go Justine!

griffin
Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:50 PM
Yet, I still don't see the parallels between the AO and Miami. Considering that what happened in Australia appeared to be that of acute illness caused from taking oral medications (stomach ulcer) and not injury, there's absolutely no connection. I just don't see it.


Try harder.

And try to remember that I'm actually NOT criticizing her, just pointing out that she's been less than forthcoming about her physical state before matches. Some people over-dramatize their injuries, some downplay them. Before the AO final, Justine downplayed the extent of the trouble her shoulder was causing her. imo, this was a strategic (and entirely defensible) decision. And it is therefor very possible that she is downplaying her pain/discomfort now as well.

NOW do you get it? Or are you really that desperate for a fight? (judging by your insulting Hingis in this thread, I'd say the latter)

flyingmachine
Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:55 PM
:banana:

dinhd82
Mar 23rd, 2006, 03:00 PM
Well, at least Justine is tough enough to play through her injuries and the competition. Its not like she retired because of injury and the growing competition, only to wait three years to try a comeback.

Have you forgotten AO 2006 already? I'm sure many here would be glad to remind you.

cheo23
Mar 23rd, 2006, 03:07 PM
Excerpt from her official website:

"Justine was given the greenlight, and had a good test run on Tuesday with a practice session with no pain."

I'm sure in a LONG 3 SET match...her Pain will return...she should just WITHDRAW & join Lindsay, My girl Mary Pierce, SERENA, Venus & Nicole.

Sanneriet
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:50 PM
Try harder.

And try to remember that I'm actually NOT criticizing her, just pointing out that she's been less than forthcoming about her physical state before matches. Some people over-dramatize their injuries, some downplay them. Before the AO final, Justine downplayed the extent of the trouble her shoulder was causing her. imo, this was a strategic (and entirely defensible) decision. And it is therefor very possible that she is downplaying her pain/discomfort now as well.

NOW do you get it? Or are you really that desperate for a fight? (judging by your insulting Hingis in this thread, I'd say the latter)

I agree. I think she is so competitive that she hates to admit to any weaknesses. However, it usually comes back to bite her when she mentions it after the fact.

Mother_Marjorie
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:54 PM
I agree. I think she is so competitive that she hates to admit to any weaknesses. However, it usually comes back to bite her when she mentions it after the fact.

Yes, but the point being is that Justine isn't the only WTA professional which engages in that sort of thing.

So why single her out???

Oh, I don't have to "try harder" to figure that out... :rolleyes:

Sanneriet
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:57 PM
Yes, but the point being is that Justine isn't the only WTA professional which engages in that sort of thing.

So why single her out???

Oh, I don't have to "try harder" to figure that out... :rolleyes:

I don't think she is the only one. If I were a professional athlete in an individual sport, I wouldn't mention injuries either. But, you have to take the good with the bad...if you don't want to mention it before you should refrain as much as possible from elaborating later. However, in defense of ALL players that talk about injuries before and after matches, they are usually responding to direct questions. So then your choice is to outright lie, be evasive, or simply state the facts.

AsGoodAsNew
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:05 PM
Win it all Justine!!
Why on earth would anyone want the Ghastly One to win anything?

Mother_Marjorie
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:17 PM
Have you forgotten AO 2006 already? I'm sure many here would be glad to remind you.

Well, only at WTA World. The story was dead with news sources within 48 hours after the final.

However, the 1999 French Open finals continue to be discussed in the media until this day :tape: :lol: :lol: :lol:

dinhd82
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:19 PM
Discussed for what? It's so done and over with. You don't see articles about it anymore.

Justine's shadiness however lives on forever, pops up every now and then when she loses. And her shadiness at the OZ open will ALWAYS be brought up whenever she is injured and retires in a match or whenever they press has nothing else to question Amelie. :lol: :tape:

Mother_Marjorie
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:21 PM
Discussed for what? It's so done and over with.

Justine's shadiness however lives on forever, pops up every now and then when she loses.

:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

griffin
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:33 PM
Yes, but the point being is that Justine isn't the only WTA professional which engages in that sort of thing.

So why single her out???

Oh, I don't have to "try harder" to figure that out... :rolleyes:

Good, because I'd hate to think you'd have a hard time figuring out why we're not talking about other players' injury strategies in a thread about JUSTINE :lol:

purplerain
Mar 23rd, 2006, 08:14 PM
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

:hug:
That is life. I don't care and I think Justine doesn't care much either. We can live on this.

tard~tard
Mar 23rd, 2006, 09:35 PM
Discussed for what? It's so done and over with. You don't see articles about it anymore.

Well actually, I just read one a couple of days ago, written by a French
journalist, in connection with A. Mauresmo becoming the new world N°1.
To my big surprise, it was quite a neutral article. Instead of the usually
unfounded and cheap, populist bashing towards JHH, -- yes, I know, the
purpose is to sell as many newspapers as possible and definitely not to
encourage people to use their braincells or to form a well thought-out
opinion of their own --, the journalist simply summed up the evident facts.

Which are; that A.M. won her first GS title with 3 of her opponents retiring,
while stressing especially the retirement of the Belgians in the SF and Final.
Stating that Kim Clijsters had no intention to give the win to A.M just like
that, until unfortunately she sprained her ankle and had to retire.
About the Final he wrote, that at the one side of the net, there was a fit
and in form A.M and at the other side of the net, there was a too sick JHH
to be able to compete and who was forced to retire. End of story!

My opinion is that if people still feel like bashing JHH for something that was
completely out of her control and will, it must be that they have no idea
about JHH's career from the beginning until now, that they are not interested
to inform theirselves before judging and/or that they prefer to live in denial,
within the (false) safety/popularity of the mass bandwagon of hate for either
ridicilous or personal (fandom/hidden agenda/) reasons, or are simply refusing
to accept the thruth, reality and facts as they were on that specific and
utmost unlucky day for JHH (and lucky day for A.M) at the AO Final.

Most probably the sales figures of that paper will've decreased dramaticly
that day and some diehard A.M fans were furious about the article. Me, on
the other hand, I'm grateful that someone finally has the courage to call
things by their name; as they were : JHH was too sick to play and is not to
blame for that, and A.M was simply lucky to be handed her first GS win that
way, and isn't to blame for that either.


Justine's shadiness however lives on forever, pops up every now and then when she loses. And her shadiness at the OZ open will ALWAYS be brought up whenever she is injured and retires in a match or whenever they press has nothing else to question Amelie. :lol: :tape:

Honestly, the only shadiness about JHH that I've noticed so far, is the
shadiness of her body, which is very unfortunate for her indeed.

For those who still don't know by now : She has entered Miami with a
shoulder injury (chronic, she can't practice her serve during training because
of that), a knee injury (infection at the outside of the knee, which prevents
her to push of her feet properly), a stomach ulcer (she's still on medication
for that) and a back pain.

Nevertheless, ALLEZ JUJU !! But be careful with that fragile, injured and in
pain body of yours.

PS/ I'm a supporter of both A.M and JHH, I just don't feel the need to
transform the obvious, and yes, I did see the AO final with my own
eyes.

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 09:40 PM
Can you post that article or give us a link, tard~tard ?
Oh I don't know what you did to get so lucky, Oh Momo :bowdown:
but please continue whatever it is that you're doing!!! :banana: :devil:

skanky~skanketta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 09:57 PM
lets go justine!win it!

tard~tard
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:06 PM
For you hablovah, or anyone else who's interested.

http://www.lemagazine.info/article.php3?id_article=438 (http://http://www.lemagazine.info/article.php3?id_article=438)

It's a positive and nice article about A.M, but objective at the same time.

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:09 PM
For you hablovah, or anyone else who's interested.

http://www.lemagazine.info/article.php3?id_article=438 (http://http://www.lemagazine.info/article.php3?id_article=438)

It's a positive and nice article about A.M, but objective at the same time.
This is all I get when I click on the link : "The page cannot be displayed" :p:shrug:

so it's objective cause it implies, according to you, that Momo was lucky to win ? :spit:
Most probably the sales figures of that paper will've decreased dramaticly
that day and some diehard A.M fans were furious about the article. Me, on
the other hand, I'm grateful that someone finally has the courage to call
things by their name; as they were : JHH was too sick to play and is not to
blame for that, and A.M was simply lucky to be handed her first GS win that
way, and isn't to blame for that either.

AKJH
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:22 PM
Oh, Hingis fans are so cocky nowadays. But we only have to wait a few days until Justine spanks her right out of the nasdaq in the quarters and all her egotistical fans can shut up once and for all insulting Justine! THANK U DRAW-GODS!

dinhd82
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:41 PM
Well actually, I just read one a couple of days ago, written by a French
journalist, in connection with A. Mauresmo becoming the new world N°1.
To my big surprise, it was quite a neutral article. Instead of the usually
unfounded and cheap, populist bashing towards JHH, -- yes, I know, the
purpose is to sell as many newspapers as possible and definitely not to
encourage people to use their braincells or to form a well thought-out
opinion of their own --, the journalist simply summed up the evident facts.

Which are; that A.M. won her first GS title with 3 of her opponents retiring,
while stressing especially the retirement of the Belgians in the SF and Final.
Stating that Kim Clijsters had no intention to give the win to A.M just like
that, until unfortunately she sprained her ankle and had to retire.
About the Final he wrote, that at the one side of the net, there was a fit
and in form A.M and at the other side of the net, there was a too sick JHH
to be able to compete and who was forced to retire. End of story!

My opinion is that if people still feel like bashing JHH for something that was
completely out of her control and will, it must be that they have no idea
about JHH's career from the beginning until now, that they are not interested
to inform theirselves before judging and/or that they prefer to live in denial,
within the (false) safety/popularity of the mass bandwagon of hate for either
ridicilous or personal (fandom/hidden agenda/) reasons, or are simply refusing
to accept the thruth, reality and facts as they were on that specific and
utmost unlucky day for JHH (and lucky day for A.M) at the AO Final.

Most probably the sales figures of that paper will've decreased dramaticly
that day and some diehard A.M fans were furious about the article. Me, on
the other hand, I'm grateful that someone finally has the courage to call
things by their name; as they were : JHH was too sick to play and is not to
blame for that, and A.M was simply lucky to be handed her first GS win that
way, and isn't to blame for that either.



Honestly, the only shadiness about JHH that I've noticed so far, is the
shadiness of her body, which is very unfortunate for her indeed.

For those who still don't know by now : She has entered Miami with a
shoulder injury (chronic, she can't practice her serve during training because
of that), a knee injury (infection at the outside of the knee, which prevents
her to push of her feet properly), a stomach ulcer (she's still on medication
for that) and a back pain.

Nevertheless, ALLEZ JUJU !! But be careful with that fragile, injured and in
pain body of yours.

PS/ I'm a supporter of both A.M and JHH, I just don't feel the need to
transform the obvious, and yes, I did see the AO final with my own
eyes.

I think you missed the point, I was talking about French Open 99. And no way will justine ever live Oz Open 06 final down, towards the press, on the boards, ever, that is shadiness in it's purest form. :worship: :worship:

tard~tard
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:48 PM
This is all I get when I click on the link : "The page cannot be displayed" :p:shrug:

I'm sorry that the link doesn't work for you.
Please, go to the website of "lemagazine",
http://www.lemagazine.info and click on "sport",
the first article you'll see, is the one about A.M.


so it's objective cause it implies, according to you, that Momo was lucky to win ? :spit:

I hope you can make the distinction between what the journalist wrote
and what I wrote.

And to answer your question :
If you know another/better word for "being lucky", when you win the Final
(and SF) of a GS, because your opponent has to retire due to illness (or
injury), that's fine by me; either way, the facts will still remain the same.
Besides, there's nothing wrong with being lucky, so why not just call it by
it's name?

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:59 PM
I'm sorry that the link doesn't work for you.
Please, go to the website of "lemagazine",
http://www.lemagazine.info and click on "sport",
the first article you'll see, is the one about A.M.

It worked thanks.

I hope you can make the distinction between what the journalist wrote
and what I wrote.
no way to make the distinction... I had to go by your interpretation of what the article said at the time I read your post... That's why I asked for the link in the first place.

And to answer your question :
If you know another/better word for "being lucky", when you win the Final
(and SF) of a GS, because your opponent has to retire due to illness (or
injury), that's fine by me; either way, the facts will still remain the same.
Besides, there's nothing wrong with being lucky, so why not just call it by
it's name?
The fact that you keep saying she was just "lucky" says alot already :shrug:
anyhow, there are already threads about this topic : Justine should have finished the final. end.

tard~tard
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:00 PM
I think you missed the point, I was talking about French Open 99. And no way will justine ever live Oz Open 06 final down, towards the press, on the boards, ever, that is shadiness in it's purest form. :worship: :worship:

Really? Damn, I did all that work for nothing then. :lol:

Oh well, back to the original thread, ALLEZ Juju!

tard~tard
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:17 PM
It worked thanks.

The fact that you keep saying she was just "lucky" says alot already :shrug:


So, you prefer not to answer my question about whether A.M
was lucky or not, and if you'ld rather call it something else?

This way, communication becomes indeed impossible.
Ok then, as you wish; end of discussion. :wavey:

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:23 PM
So, you prefer not to answer my question about whether A.M
was lucky or not, and if you'ld rather call it something else?

This way, communication becomes indeed impossible.
Ok then, as you wish; end of discussion. :wavey:
I choose to end it as I have nothing positive to say about Justine's decision to retire during the final :shrug::lol:
And no Momo wasn't lucky :D

CaptnMatt
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:50 PM
I did like Henin

UNTIL

1. I saw the Aussie Open final in 2003 when Henin pointed that the ball from Clijsters was LONG when it was definitely IN. That was a BIG point too in that match and could have effected the outcome.
2. When I saw the French Open semi final against Serena and Henin served REGARDLESS Of Serena putting her hand up.
3. When Henin took that stupid toilet break down a set in the 2003 San Diego final when she beat Clijsters 3-6 6-2 6-3.
4. WHEN SHE RETIRED IN THE AUSSIE OPEN FINAL 2006 TO MAKE HERSELF LOOK BETTER. :rolleyes:

HENIN HARDEENE IS SHADIER (THAT WORD SUX BTW) THAN HINGIS/MAURESMO/ANY PLAYER Will EVER be. I don't care what Hingis did in the 99 FO final and I dont care that Mauresmo won her first GS after somebody retired, Henin hasnt always been the moral player IMO.

I dont usually like taking a stab at players, but feel that yes, Hingis made some mistakes growing up in the tennis world......I also feel that she did the best thing in taking that break - she needed to do it for her to compete with the best again. I'm not a cocky Hingis supporter, she has a LONG way to go before I will claim for her to be the best again - however, I also know that Henin Hardeene has a long way to go before I'll give her the same respect I give to the Williams Sisters, Clijsters, Davenport. Hingis OR Mauresmo for that matter.

tard~tard
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:14 AM
I choose to end it as I have nothing positive to say about Justine's decision to retire during the final :shrug::lol:
Eh, sorry to say this hablovah, but there's really nothing to end here, as
I don't recall us (you and I) having discussed Justine's decision to retire
tonight.


And no Momo wasn't lucky :D

Thank you for answering my question!

So to sum up :
I think that a player - in this case A.M - is lucky when she wins the final
of a GS, due to the retirement of her opponent. (no matchpoint to play,
no risk of losing the match, etc)
You on the other hand, thinks that A.M was unlucky for winning the AO
Final due to the retirement of her opponent (not having to play matchpoint,
not having to take the risk of losing the match; this is not called being lucky
to you - the retirement of K.C in the semifinal, the retirement of Safina, and
still A.M wasn't lucky?).

Interesting thoughts hablovah, thanks for sharing!
And yes, as you wish, this is really the end of our conversation.
Back to JHH in Miami please.

Greenout
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:26 AM
I did like Henin

UNTIL


3. When Henin took that stupid toilet break down a set in the 2003 San Diego final when she beat Clijsters 3-6 6-2 6-3.



This is incorrrect. Get your facts correct.



Justine took a medical timeout to treat a blister on her foot before the start of the second set. There is nothing wrong with doing it between two sets.
She didn't stop in the middle of the second set or during a rally.



So, what you are talking about is not what happened. Her opponent was bitter, and as we know went on to smear Justine of something even uglier
at the US OPEN.

All unfounded comments - that even forced a retraction from the father of the opponent.

hablo
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:33 AM
Eh, sorry to say this hablovah, but there's really nothing to end here, as
I don't recall us (you and I) having discussed Justine's decision to retire
tonight.
see post #44 :lol:
you're the one who chose to ignore this part of my post :spit:

The fact that you keep saying she was just "lucky" says alot already
anyhow, there are already threads about this topic : Justine should have finished the final. end.


Thank you for answering my question!

So to sum up :
I think that a player - in this case A.M - is lucky when she wins the final
of a GS, due to the retirement of her opponent. (no matchpoint to play,
no risk of losing the match, etc)
You on the other hand, thinks that A.M was unlucky for winning the AO
Final due to the retirement of her opponent (not having to play matchpoint,
not having to take the risk of losing the match; this is not called being lucky
to you - the retirement of K.C in the semifinal, the retirement of Safina, and
still A.M wasn't lucky?).

Interesting thoughts hablovah, thanks for sharing!
And yes, as you wish, this is really the end of our conversation.
Back to JHH in Miami please.when did this happen ? get your facts straight (at least get her opponents names right :o)... :tape:
Once again, Momo was not lucky! Justine should have finished the match :D

tard~tard
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:57 AM
see post #44 :lol:
you're the one who chose to ignore this part of my post :spit:

Personally, I think it was you who were trying to go off topic, and
I didn't bite.


when did this happen ? get your facts straight (at least get her opponents names right :o)... :tape:
Once again, Momo was not lucky! Justine should have finished the match :D

Sorry I got the name wrong, but this hardly changes the content of the
conversation we were having. Really you're trying too hard to change the
subject of the discussion. We were talking about whether A.M was lucky
to have 3 of her 7 opponents retiring during a GS, especially during the SF
and Final.
If you believe that she was unlucky because of that, well ok, fine by me.
Whether JHH should have finished the match or not, is a totaly different
discussion and was not what we were talking about. You were just throwing
it in instead of answering the original question.

That's it hablovah, thanks for the conversation.
Good night. :wavey:

AKJH
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:59 AM
I did like Henin

UNTIL

1. I saw the Aussie Open final in 2003 when Henin pointed that the ball from Clijsters was LONG when it was definitely IN. That was a BIG point too in that match and could have effected the outcome.
2. When I saw the French Open semi final against Serena and Henin served REGARDLESS Of Serena putting her hand up.
3. When Henin took that stupid toilet break down a set in the 2003 San Diego final when she beat Clijsters 3-6 6-2 6-3.
4. WHEN SHE RETIRED IN THE AUSSIE OPEN FINAL 2006 TO MAKE HERSELF LOOK BETTER. :rolleyes:

HENIN HARDEENE IS SHADIER (THAT WORD SUX BTW) THAN HINGIS/MAURESMO/ANY PLAYER Will EVER be. I don't care what Hingis did in the 99 FO final and I dont care that Mauresmo won her first GS after somebody retired, Henin hasnt always been the moral player IMO.

I dont usually like taking a stab at players, but feel that yes, Hingis made some mistakes growing up in the tennis world......I also feel that she did the best thing in taking that break - she needed to do it for her to compete with the best again. I'm not a cocky Hingis supporter, she has a LONG way to go before I will claim for her to be the best again - however, I also know that Henin Hardeene has a long way to go before I'll give her the same respect I give to the Williams Sisters, Clijsters, Davenport. Hingis OR Mauresmo for that matter.


I swear some people have no damn idea what happened in those matches...but they continue to write stupid posts such as this one! If u dont know ur facts, please do us ALL a favor and SHUT UP!

Serena was serving in that match, and that's when justine put her hand up, because she wasnt ready....it was serena who served anyway, regardless of that...so, if we go by what u put on that post, it was SERENA who did the wrong thing by serving regardless of the hand Justine put up.....FINALLY THE MYSTERY IS SOLVED! BUT OF COURSE IF WE SWITCH THE NAMES AROUND, JUSTINE SHOULD HAVE NEVER SERVED THAT...this is why all the justine haters suck!

Anyway, stop making Justine, the most soft-poken woman on the wta sound like the devil she isnt!

I dont understand why Hingis fans have this competition against Justine to bring her down...just because she is much tougher at the same size as hingis and is achieving so much, doesnt mean you have to bring her down. WHY HINGIS FANS OF ALL PEOPLE, I DONT GET IT!

Junex
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:07 AM
I swear some people have no damn idea what happened in those matches...but they continue to write stupid posts such as this one! If u dont know ur facts, please do us ALL a favor and SHUT UP!

Serena was serving in that match, and that's when justine put her hand up, because she wasnt ready....it was serena who served anyway, regardless of that...so, if we go by what u put on that post, it was SERENA who did the wrong thing by serving regardless of the hand Justine put up.....FINALLY THE MYSTERY IS SOLVED! BUT OF COURSE IF WE SWITCH THE NAMES AROUND, JUSTINE SHOULD HAVE NEVER SERVED THAT...this is why all the justine haters suck!

Anyway, stop making Justine, the most soft-poken woman on the wta sound like the devil she isnt!

I dont understand why Hingis fans have this competition against Justine to bring her down...just because she is much tougher at the same size as hingis and is achieving so much, doesnt mean you have to bring her down. WHY HINGIS FANS OF ALL PEOPLE, I DONT GET IT!


Really that poster doesn't know a thing...

Did Kim & Justine really played the AO03 final...oh what crap....


I am a Hingis fan before her first retirement, and i admit I chose Justine to replace that void left by Martina's departure...and now i realized when they are both on court and playing against each other...I love Justine more...

I am wondering why other Martina fans are hating on Justine...
As if they felt so threatened that Justine might take away the reputation of Martina as the smartest, smallest top player of these generation...and they are trying to paint a picture of Justine as bitchier than Martina...

I dnt get it...like you i am asking myself why...?