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Jakeev
Mar 21st, 2006, 09:48 AM
They are both out of Miami with Justine a possible third casualty. So, what happens when a player withdraws from a mandatory event with an injury?

Will they be fined more? less? anything?

CooCooCachoo
Mar 21st, 2006, 09:52 AM
Nothing, right? If it's with an injury, they should not be fined.

Dasha_
Mar 21st, 2006, 09:54 AM
I think nothing happens if the player is injured.

azmad_88
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:25 AM
i dont think justine will pull out,she has a week to recover

Lindsayfan32
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:28 AM
I can't state this for a fact but Lindsay will most likely use one of two medical exmptions a player is entited to. I read somewhere else that a play is entitled to medical exmptions a year so in Lindsay case there shouls be no fine.

Jakeev
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:33 AM
I can't state this for a fact but Lindsay will most likely use one of two medical exmptions a player is entited to. I read somewhere else that a play is entitled to medical exmptions a year so in Lindsay case there shouls be no fine.

But Miami is a so called mandatory event. That is why I even brought up the thread.

Jorn
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:45 AM
What about Bovina will she be fined as much as Davenport and Serena?

Players earning more should be fined more, ithink the fine for top players is $100.000+

tennnisfannn
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:48 AM
I wondet whether the fine is the same for all players. If a player like Na li were to forfeit, would it be fair to fine her the same as lindsay or even mary? Seeing that serena is now ranked 61, perhaps her fine would be so negligible as well. Good thread!

A'DAM
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:55 AM
Its all a bit bizzare for me. I think that whole idea of mandatory events is bad!

MisterMan
Mar 21st, 2006, 11:31 AM
They'll be fined regardless of injury. In a mandatory event, the directors realize that a player can just 'pretend' to be injured just to get out of the fine. So i'm almost positive injured players get punished. Maybe players who have existing injuries (Bovina) will be exempt, but players like Dav or Henin will not be exempt.

Really though. How much of an issue is MONEY to these people ??
$50,000 is SUCH a tiny amount to them, it won't make a tiny dent in their accounts.

A'DAM
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:00 PM
I guess a big ranking points deduction would be more heavy to them!

tennisIlove09
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:02 PM
I think I read close to $400,000. But that was for Serena.

Stamp Paid
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:12 PM
I think I read close to $400,000. But that was for Serena.

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

tennisIlove09
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:12 PM
The thing is, the tour is not accepting these withdrawals as legitimate injury pull outs, which is why Serena is drowning in bonus pool fines, somewhere in the neighborhood of $400,000.

http://www.********************/scoop_henin_031606.html

volta
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:22 PM
I think I read close to $400,000. But that was for Serena.
OMG :eek:

tenn_ace
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:28 PM
What about Bovina will she be fined as much as Davenport and Serena?

Players earning more should be fined more, ithink the fine for top players is $100.000+

Alina Jidkova is another player who comes to mind...

kabuki
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:39 PM
mandatory events :retard:

Joana
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:42 PM
But what if someone breaks their leg? Surely they wouldn't fine them?

starr
Mar 21st, 2006, 01:02 PM
I think I read close to $400,000. But that was for Serena.

That was for all her fines combined evidently.

starr
Mar 21st, 2006, 01:02 PM
mandatory events :retard:

The ATP has nine (9) mandatory events every year. They seem to manage with it just fine.

Volcana
Mar 21st, 2006, 01:25 PM
They'll be fined regardless of injury. In a mandatory event, the directors realize that a player can just 'pretend' to be injured just to get out of the fine. So i'm almost positive injured players get punished. Maybe players who have existing injuries (Bovina) will be exempt, but players like Dav or Henin will not be exempt.

Really though. How much of an issue is MONEY to these people ??
$50,000 is SUCH a tiny amount to them, it won't make a tiny dent in their accounts.Read the article in that thread.

http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=226121

A $50,000 fine would remove almost any player outside the top fifty from the tour altogether. Davenport and Henin-Hardenne can certainly afford it, but a player like say, Jelena Jankovic would be seriously hurt by a fine that size.

tenn_ace
Mar 21st, 2006, 01:27 PM
But what if someone breaks their leg? Surely they wouldn't fine them?

as long as they get to the court (in a wheelchair?), get to the baseline and hit the first ball of the first game (they are allowed to skip a warm-up), there shouldn't be any fine ;)

Helen Lawson
Mar 21st, 2006, 01:29 PM
I'm way too cheap to EVER part with $50K. That's a new Cadillac!!

I'd just show up and default injured after a couple of points.

Fingon
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:15 PM
It has nothing to do with mandatory events, but with being in the gold exemption list, that's what makes the fines so high for top players, not for the others.

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:18 PM
the Gold exempt players dont get fined, they just lose their entitlement of bonus monies, and only if they exceed those monetary totals, then they pay up.

drake3781
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:19 PM
What is done with the fine money???????????????

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:24 PM
What is done with the fine money???????????????

WTA get to keep it :lol: (non-profit making organisation :tape: )

TomTennis
Mar 21st, 2006, 05:52 PM
i dont think so.

Right from the start of the year, i just couldnt see Lindsay playing Miami. Not to say she is making it up because i doubt she would do that (although 2004 Pilot Pen was pretty dodgey - :lol: joke) but she has ALWAYS hated playing in Miami since she lost the 2000 final where it was really windy.

I hope she gets fit and healthy again.

BUT most importantly, i hope to see Serena back fit and healthy soon :sad:

cheo23
Mar 21st, 2006, 06:01 PM
They are both out of Miami with Justine a possible third casualty. So, what happens when a player withdraws from a mandatory event with an injury?

Will they be fined more? less? anything?
well in my opinion they should be FINED 1 MILLION DOLLARS pulling out w/ excuses as " I need more TIME to Play MY "BEST LEVEL":rolleyes: or I'm "injured":rolleyes:

by imposing a higher fine...I'm sure their "injures" or lame excuses will go away

if not a 1 MILLION DOLLARS- just something higher than the current "FINE"

griffin
Mar 21st, 2006, 06:03 PM
if not a 1 MILLION DOLLARS- just something higher than the current "FINE"

Would you like them to reintrodue stocks on the public square? Maybe a scarlet letter sewn to their blouses....

cheo23
Mar 21st, 2006, 06:09 PM
Would you like them to reintrodue stocks on the public square? Maybe a scarlet letter sewn to their blouses....
now, thats a good idea: ;) :lol:

OH HI GRIFFIN!!!!!!!!:wavey:

MisterMan
Mar 21st, 2006, 06:41 PM
but a player like say, Jelena Jankovic would be seriously hurt by a fine that size.

Jankovic made $55,000 this year so far (three months) and a career earning nearing $900,000.
With interest + endorsements, even Jelena is quite, quite wealthy and could afford a 50K loss.

You'd have to go to the Marissa Irvin/Maureen Drake level of play , where a $100 threat of penalty would scare them straight ! :lol:

book40
Mar 21st, 2006, 07:22 PM
fined...what a joke...a millionare fined a thousand bucks...joke