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kabuki
Mar 20th, 2006, 07:15 PM
Reading the Jam/Ashley article made me think about what level of success it would take for professional tennis to be attractive for me. Would Justin Gimelstob level of success be OK for me? Or Nancy Loeffler-Caro level? Or would it take Roger Federer level?

What level of success would you need to have in order to be a professional tennis player? Would you play for the love of the game and an economic loss, as some clearly do? Or would you have to be a slam winner and #1? Or somewhere in-between?

Helen Lawson
Mar 20th, 2006, 07:18 PM
My ego is too big, I'd need at least one major with a long stint in the Top 10.

kabuki
Mar 20th, 2006, 07:24 PM
Of course I'd like to be a Hall of Famer, but I think that despite my ego, I would play for the average success of someone in the top 32.

Dougal Maguire
Mar 20th, 2006, 07:40 PM
Wouldn't be too difficult being #1 today. Today's players aren't up to much, are they, really?

meyerpl
Mar 20th, 2006, 08:53 PM
Wouldn't be too difficult being #1 today. Today's players aren't up to much, are they, really?
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Andy.
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:36 PM
I would like to be a solid top 10 to top 5 player with at at least 1 to 2 slams anything more than that would be a bonus. I would also like pretty decent sponsors and being pretty famous wouldnt hurt.

Brooklyn90
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:40 PM
rank 11-32- seeded at GS, entry at all tournaments, sponsorship

drake3781
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:44 PM
rank 95-150- Challenger titlist, Qualies of GS, entry in some small tourneys.

1. At this level you can always move up.
2. Surprising how much money ladies in this group have accumulated over the years. And it beats working at a desk job.
3. Would be hard work, lot of fun, get to see the world, stay healthy.
4. Would last maybe 10-15 years, then I could do something different.

Hell yeah, I would do it if I could be at this level.

Surprising how many people would require a higher level to involve themselves. You got something better going on now? Do tell!!

CoryAnnAvants#1
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:50 PM
Being ranked between 110-200 would get me to do it.

As long as I was ranked in the top 100, I wouldn't quit.

Mightymirza
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:53 PM
Wud love to win wimbly as a WC...And hopefully many times...:lol:

CJ07
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:56 PM
eh, I'd have to be a Serena type. And only then would I do it part-time.

I wouldn't want to give up my best years.

Brooklyn90
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:58 PM
eh, I'd have to be a Serena type. And only then would I do it part-time.

I wouldn't want to give up my best years.
who would :)

Maria Croft
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:02 PM
I would try to go for as much as possible, might not work, but if I would play tennis I wouldn't be able to settle with just solid results, I would like to have more then that, as Maria said it (and Serena I know) shoot for the moon if you miss you'll still be among the stars

Mightymirza
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:23 PM
I would try to go for as much as possible, might not work, but if I would play tennis I wouldn't be able to settle with just solid results, I would like to have more then that, as Maria said it (and Serena I know) shoot for the moon if you miss you'll still be among the stars
Even though we all know stars are much further than moon :lol: :lol: Lol...better shoot for stars then you might end up on moon :D :D This is what happens when you dont complete your school:D

Maybe a bad one.. :D But cudnt help it..

Wiggly
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:28 PM
I would like to be a famous top 5, ex or future #1 and have some GS :)

BTW, I think half of the board could beats Nancy in 2 sets :rolleyes: :tape:

MissJessou
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:30 PM
At least 95-150! ;)

SAEKeithSerena
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:53 PM
My ego is too big, I'd need at least one major with a long stint in the Top 10.


not a bad ego at all, it's called a great goal....and i agree with you.:kiss:

fonsito
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:55 PM
rank 33-95- Direct entry at GS and some tourneys, possible tour titlist, some sponsorship

¤CharlDa¤
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:56 PM
I would play if I had the chance to be in the top 500.

vogus
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:56 PM
it's really not appropriate to include NLC in this poll - people who have seen her have noted that she does not appear to play for the love of the game at all, but rather for attention. The players who are really in it for the love of the game are those ranked below 500 who struggle with a few points, but all the same are legitimate competitors. Loefler Caro is a different example from them entirely - she's like somebody from this board, a low-level club player, who decides to fly around the country, just for the sake of getting their name in the draws. Attention seeking is a very different concept from authentic "love of the game".

SM
Mar 20th, 2006, 11:23 PM
if i made 30 000 after expenses i would play regardless of level/success.

vogus
Mar 20th, 2006, 11:32 PM
I'd play if i had a legitimate chance of winning matches in the main draws of 10K tournies.

Randy H
Mar 20th, 2006, 11:39 PM
Depends on the circumstances really. I love tennis, and I'm sure if I had loads of money, I'd be perfectly content with even sub-500 tennis given that I wouldn't really care so much if I was losing, it would be an experience to go to many different places and compete. I wouldn't want to lose *every* match like a Nancy, but if I had the cash then it's not like I would be playing wondering if I'm going to be able to eat the next week.

If I had ability but lacked money, then probably either 95-150, or 150-500, depending on whether I felt there was potential for improvement to make steps to being consistently at least around top 200 to play slam qualies, some tour events, and success in bigger challengers to sustain the career.

ceiling_fan
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:13 AM
popular enough to get a thread in the players forums

Brooklyn90
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:16 AM
popular enough to get a thread in the players forums
:lol: i choose that also :)

bw2082
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:20 AM
I think realistically you can only live comfortably after all expenses being in the top 32

darrinbaker00
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:29 AM
rank 95-150- Challenger titlist, Qualies of GS, entry in some small tourneys.

1. At this level you can always move up.
2. Surprising how much money ladies in this group have accumulated over the years. And it beats working at a desk job.
3. Would be hard work, lot of fun, get to see the world, stay healthy.
4. Would last maybe 10-15 years, then I could do something different.

Hell yeah, I would do it if I could be at this level.

Surprising how many people would require a higher level to involve themselves. You got something better going on now? Do tell!!
AMEN!! I love what I do, but I would trade places with Paul Goldstein in a nanosecond. ;)

ceiling_fan
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:32 AM
I think realistically you can only live comfortably after all expenses being in the top 32

i know, it kinda sucks for anyone who doesn't quite make it.

the top 20-30 whatever are living the luxurious life, and anyone below top 100 may as well get a desk job coz it pays up the same, maybe even worse

Lulu.
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:37 AM
Rank 33-95- Direct entry at GS and some tourneys, possible tour titlist, some sponsorship

drake3781
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:41 AM
i know, it kinda sucks for anyone who doesn't quite make it.

the top 20-30 whatever are living the luxurious life, and anyone below top 100 may as well get a desk job coz it pays up the same, maybe even worse


OK but given a choice for the same net pay - would you take desk job or tennis pro?

That's why I go higher........ tennis would still be a great career, then later I can do something else!

Drake1980
Mar 21st, 2006, 05:14 AM
Very cool Thread!!! Props to you. Thanks

Prizeidiot
Mar 21st, 2006, 06:27 AM
I guess Top 100.

I'd love to play tennis full time, and I've always enjoyed the training. The travel would be nice too. The only drawback would be the time away from home.

E. Blackadder
Mar 21st, 2006, 08:54 AM
a title competitor, ranked in top 32

A'DAM
Mar 21st, 2006, 09:00 AM
Top 40 would be great! And than trying to make my way up!!!

ceiling_fan
Mar 21st, 2006, 09:08 AM
OK but given a choice for the same net pay - would you take desk job or tennis pro?

That's why I go higher........ tennis would still be a great career, then later I can do something else!

well i dno. take into consideration doing a college degree before being too old. if i were to do tennis, then it would be just until i was about 24-25. I reckon you'd get kinda sick of it IF your career wasn't moving anywhere.

Overall, tennis = way harder than deskjob.

training, travel etc.

Prizeidiot
Mar 21st, 2006, 09:15 AM
well i dno. take into consideration doing a college degree before being too old. if i were to do tennis, then it would be just until i was about 24-25. I reckon you'd get kinda sick of it IF your career wasn't moving anywhere.

Overall, tennis = way harder than deskjob.

training, travel etc.
It really depends on how much you enjoy training and tennis. As with any other job, it's not hard work if you like doing it.

bailey
Mar 21st, 2006, 09:18 AM
I think realistically you can only live comfortably after all expenses being in the top 32

That's what I was always wondering. Which players can actually earn money with playing tennis? I guess the lower ranked players have to pay everything on their own (flights, hotels, ev. coach...). When you check their Prize money, it may look quite ok, but they also have to pay a lot of taxes (sometimes even in the country of the tournament plus in their hometown country for the same prizemoney...).

I can't imagine that a player ranked 80 (without sponsers) can really make some decent money, but I might be wrong?

BTW: I choose a ranking between 11 - 32

Maria Croft
Mar 21st, 2006, 09:19 AM
Even though we all know stars are much further than moon :lol: :lol: Lol...better shoot for stars then you might end up on moon :D :D This is what happens when you dont complete your school:D

Maybe a bad one.. :D But cudnt help it..

It’s a metaphor, we all know that, this is what happens if you try to be funny but really aren’t at all

Davenselesport
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:55 AM
I think people here think getting to the top 100 is easy or something... I would play in the challengers for sure.

vogus
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:34 PM
That's what I was always wondering. Which players can actually earn money with playing tennis?




the players inside the Top 110 (those with direct entry to the Grand Slams) all make money, because playing the Grand Slams provides a basic 50,000$ per year subsidy before you even win a match. Win a couple of Slam rounds and you take that up to about 80,000$ earned in just four weeks out of the year.

kabuki
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:47 PM
it's really not appropriate to include NLC in this poll - people who have seen her have noted that she does not appear to play for the love of the game at all, but rather for attention. The players who are really in it for the love of the game are those ranked below 500 who struggle with a few points, but all the same are legitimate competitors. Loefler Caro is a different example from them entirely - she's like somebody from this board, a low-level club player, who decides to fly around the country, just for the sake of getting their name in the draws. Attention seeking is a very different concept from authentic "love of the game".

I see your point. I mostly mentioned her as an example of the bottom level of achievement, not as a paragon of sportsmanship and lover of tennis. :lol: I personally am not going to guess about her motivations, because I have no idea. :D

kabuki
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:49 PM
the players inside the Top 110 (those with direct entry to the Grand Slams) all make money, because playing the Grand Slams provides a basic 50,000$ per year subsidy before you even win a match. Win a couple of Slam rounds and you take that up to about 80,000$ earned in just four weeks out of the year.

Yah, I hear that, but if you have a coach, physio, travel and accomodations, food, expenses, a home base, etc. I don't think there is any of that 50 or 80K left.

greenfunkTHREE.
Mar 21st, 2006, 01:09 PM
i guess i'll be a hall of famer with the longest losing streak. ;) then forced to quit the tour. tsk tsk.

vogus
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:26 PM
I see your point. I mostly mentioned her as an example of the bottom level of achievement, not as a paragon of sportsmanship and lover of tennis. :lol: I personally am not going to guess about her motivations, because I have no idea. :D


i'm not trying to give you a hard time, but there are two or even three levels of difference between "sub-500" and "NLC". I'd happily play pro tennis at "sub-500", even losing money, if i felt i could compete, but there is no way i'd play at NLC level.

-sugi-
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:33 PM
95-150

Derek.
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:49 PM
33-95 would be pretty neat. I mean a lot of those players in this area are still really good players. :)

Of course I'd love to be No.1 and win many GS's. ;)

Kimmi
Mar 21st, 2006, 05:22 PM
33-95 for me, preferably top 50 though.

So long as I don't have to qualify for every tournament I want to enter I think I'd be happy :)

LH2HBH
Mar 22nd, 2006, 12:22 AM
Journeyman challenger. I think there's a lot of glory in being a work horse on the tour. I would be very happy just be playing tennis for a living!

margaret_gn
Mar 22nd, 2006, 12:31 AM
i'd do it just for the sake of it... (voted the first option) anything extra is a bonus :) too bad i started playing late (mid-teens) but i just love playing the game and training/playing everyday would be just perfect. i wouldn't even ask for any pay!

DutchieGirl
Mar 22nd, 2006, 02:03 AM
If I had the money, I'd love to play just for the fun - but the other categories would be nice too! ;)

clark.kent
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:34 AM
No particular level, just as long as I beat Federer.

andrewbroad
Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:22 PM
The question for me is not what level of success would it have taken for me to play professional tennis, but what level of failure as a computer-scientist it would have taken for me to give up computing for tennis. Computing is my first love, tennis my second.

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