PDA

View Full Version : Photo of the day (vegetarian campaign)


tennislover
Mar 20th, 2006, 06:34 PM
http://www.corriere.it/Media/Foto/2006/03_Marzo/20/CARNE.jpg

Dougal Maguire
Mar 20th, 2006, 07:15 PM
I wouldn't eat him anyway. His sell by date has elapsed.

Helen Lawson
Mar 20th, 2006, 07:22 PM
I had calves liver over the weekend. It was delicious!

Wigglytuff
Mar 20th, 2006, 07:52 PM
interesting image. I have been reading eragon and eldest and both talk about vegetarianism in a very interesting and artistic way. this image has that say thing to it.

personally i have no desire to judge people soley because they eat something or other or dont eat that something or other because thats an asshole thing to do, nor do i desire to be some idiot who does things that are cruel (like supporting the veal trade) just be an asshole, because thats also an asshole thing to do.

¤CharlDa¤
Mar 20th, 2006, 11:29 PM
interesting image. I have been reading eragon and eldest and both talk about vegetarianism in a very interesting and artistic way. this image has that say thing to it.

personally i have no desire to judge people soley because they eat something or other or dont eat that something or other because thats an asshole thing to do, nor do i desire to be some idiot who does things that are cruel (like supporting the veal trade) just be an asshole, because thats also an asshole thing to do.

:worship: If only people of both sides would be as open as you are!

partbrit
Mar 21st, 2006, 01:15 AM
personally i have no desire to judge people soley because they eat something or other or dont eat that something or other because thats an asshole thing to do, nor do i desire to be some idiot who does things that are cruel (like supporting the veal trade) just be an asshole, because thats also an asshole thing to do.


Those of us who do not eat meat do not expect meat eaters to join us, as much as we would like them to. Our goal, as you say, is to eliminate the cruelty. The veal trade and foie gras trades have gotten the most press, but the chicken trade and the hog trade are every bit as cruel, with cattle and sheep not far behind.

Europe never used to have too bad of a factory farm problem (other than foie gras and fur), but that has changed. However, Europreans are taking matters into their own hands and fighting the cruel aspects of factory farming. Here is a current discussion on the MoJo Blog: http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2006/03/arizona_citizen.html

As you can see, Americans are starting to fight back, too.

Wigglytuff
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:20 AM
Those of us who do not eat meat do not expect meat eaters to join us, as much as we would like them to. Our goal, as you say, is to eliminate the cruelty. The veal trade and foie gras trades have gotten the most press, but the chicken trade and the hog trade are every bit as cruel, with cattle and sheep not far behind.

Europe never used to have too bad of a factory farm problem (other than foie gras and fur), but that has changed. However, Europreans are taking matters into their own hands and fighting the cruel aspects of factory farming. Here is a current discussion on the MoJo Blog: http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2006/03/arizona_citizen.html

As you can see, Americans are starting to fight back, too.
i think again that you should speak for yourself. there are plenty of people out who are more concerned with having people not eat meat than ending cruelty. i loves meat, but resent individuals who tell me (wrongly) that the act of eating meat is cruelty. i spend more time and money actually doing things than do many of the people who trying to judge me for eating.

you are right in saying that the cruelty is in the factory farming. i don't believe that not eating something that i like to do will in and of itself change the system. i believe that meat eaters who are against cruelty can be effect by making good choices and showing other meat eaters how to make humane choices. for me i avoid dealers who are know for their cruelty and stick to organic and free range easy in the case of chicken and fish, not so easy in the case of beef and other meats. Meat eaters with the means, i try to let them know about organic and free range animal and animal by products and most are more than will to make the shift because it simple tastes better. of course there are those who are just assholes and dont care that animals suffer,.. :mad:

partbrit
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:31 AM
Your point is well made. In my heart, yes, I would rather people not eat meat. But I recognize that people will, so I try to put most of my energy into stopping the cruelty. People can afford free-range meat and eggs by cutting back on meat consumption.

And the people who are more interested in getting people not to eat meat want the cruelty to stop, too. It is just hard for them, as it is for me somtimes, to acknowledge that stopping cruelty is a more realistic campaign.

They are indeed two different issues, and I feel strongly about both, but just eliminating the cruelty would, in my opinion, make a huge difference. Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

Wigglytuff
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:25 AM
Your point is well made. In my heart, yes, I would rather people not eat meat. But I recognize that people will, so I try to put most of my energy into stopping the cruelty. People can afford free-range meat and eggs by cutting back on meat consumption.

And the people who are more interested in getting people not to eat meat want the cruelty to stop, too. It is just hard for them, as it is for me somtimes, to acknowledge that stopping cruelty is a more realistic campaign.

They are indeed two different issues, and I feel strongly about both, but just eliminating the cruelty would, in my opinion, make a huge difference. Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
:) thank you for your understanding and honesty.

Alena
Mar 21st, 2006, 11:29 AM
ew! it's shocking, but very interesting idea. 5 points for the idea!

tennislover
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:19 PM
ew! it's shocking, but very interesting idea. 5 points for the idea!

i thought the same

skanky~skanketta
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:23 PM
:sad:

Scotso
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:55 PM
That's gross. They didn't even remove the hair from that meat.

alfonsojose
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:31 PM
nice meat :drool:

tenn_ace
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:08 PM
I need a face pic before I decide whether I would eat him...

Nemesis
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:09 PM
let me give some reasons why there is something like mass vegetarianism nowadays. it's a mix of what I've read and think about it:

the thing is that we in the west eat too much meat nowadays. people say that since the beginning, people have eaten meat. but there hasn't been such mass consumption. Huge killing factories, with animals stuffed together in horrible conditions and being tortured, filled up with chemicals, just to appeal to the rich westerners who only want big and very fat meat. so vegetarianism is a lot of the time linked with anti-capitalism.
plus: the ideological idea that God made man as last and created animals to feed them, is broken now. a religion-historical reason for this animal-man construction, is probably avoiding empathy with things that resemble us a lot (more than carrots for example), but that people have to eat to survive. now there isn't construction that animals are inferior to us and that it's our right to kill them. some people react to this with enormous empathy towards cute animals that people normally just ate.

that's why there are so much vergetarians nowadays. they might overact, but to stop things, people have to be radical.

Indians for example are the most vegetarian people on earth (due to religion) and they survive. I think the west can change too and still be healthy, but giving up our luxury out of "ethical reasons" and also health reasons (because we're eating too much meat), unfortunately that's something we'll never do.

I myself am not a vegetarian, but I rarely eat meat. I think that's the best thing. I'd support this campaign in total if it was only versus mass consumption, but I think it's against meat consumption as a whole, so I only understand why they're boycotting.

nbaker53
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:13 PM
:rolleyes:

smiler
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:50 PM
as if some hairy bloke wraped up like a chicken breast is gonna stop anyone from eating meat, somebody should stick him the the oven and teach him a lesson! I respect vegitarian's choice to not eat meat, they should return the favour and respect my choice to eat it.

tenn_ace
Mar 21st, 2006, 05:07 PM
as if some hairy bloke wraped up like a chicken breast is gonna stop anyone from eating meat, somebody should stick him the the oven and teach him a lesson!


:devil: :lol: :haha:

tennislover
Mar 21st, 2006, 06:11 PM
I need a face pic before I decide whether I would eat him...

:lol: