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G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 04:55 PM
Eva Longoria: Parker 'the Teacher' When Lights Are Out
Wednesday, March 22, 2006

LOS ANGELES — Eva Longoria, desperate to set the record straight, took to the entertainment-news shows Tuesday to tell the world that her beau, NBA star Tony Parker, is aces in the bedroom.

File it under Too Much Information, but Longoria told "Extra" and "Access Hollywood" that "when the lights are out, he's the teacher," ... and "I'm the student," she added to "Extra."

The revelation came in response to an article in the latest Allure magazine that quotes the "Desperate Housewives" star as saying that in matters of love, she was "the experienced one." International magazines seized the story, concluding — wrongfully, Longoria stressed — that Parker is a lousy lover.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188754,00.html

http://deephousepage.com/smilies/focking.gif

Maybe it's just me but I actually don't think Tony Parker cares at all that Eva revealed this.

M2k
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:06 PM
Have you heard what Jessica Alba said?

"People love to put that Latina label over me because I guess it's hot and trendy to be Latin these days. But... I don't even speak Spanish. If you are going to represent a culture, you should at least be able to speak the language... As a third generation American, I feel as if I have finally cut loose from my Mexican roots."

:retard:

WOW! that quote took me back a bit. :eek: How many generations of Latinos struggled and paved the way so that in the end people like her would pay them like this? --->:scared: *scary*

No Name Face
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:07 PM
And you’re one naïve, sheltered biracial guy who has many issues that I now suspect includes denial about sexual orientation. As Seinfeld said, “not that there’s anything wrong with that”.

ah...throw the "g-bomb" out there when you don't have anything else to say. :yawn:
i'm straight.
anyway, if i was gay, i'd be out with it. it's nothing to be ashamed of. anyway, everyone doubts everyone's sexuality. i'm not as wishy washy as you think, i'm just as stubborn as you.



I answered kabuki’s claims. I admitted I was out of line but I wasn’t embarrassed. And? Did you do the same? Have you owned up to the fact that you don’t think that WE are equal to white people?

but i do think we're equal. unfounded assertions, yet again.


I wasn’t the only one yet you single me out. I understand, though. Their online friendship is important so you don’t want to ruffle Miching and SJW’s feathers any further. So PATHETIC how this board controls your actions.

i'm not friends with either. we haven't even squared things away yet. it's not what is said, it's how it's said. monique said her generalization with sense, and fundamentally, i don't DISAGREE with anything she said. however, you were just being a hypocrite, so i had to say something.


No Name Face, you had me pegged for some militant who doesn’t look at the black community objectively. WRONG. You, on the other hand, still see us as n*ggers who would get along with white folks if we just didn’t make any waves.

actually, i think quite the opposite. but thanks for being in my head and knowing exactly everything i think.


I called YOU out because you have no respect for the black side of you. So little respect that you jump to the defense of any criticisms of white people AND soft pedal on the discrimination issues that we STILL face.

again, not true. i don't know where you're getting these assertions from, but that's your prerogative. i don't remember any time i've defended a white poster when he or she said something racist or ignorant. the only time i said anything regarding whites and blacks was when some black poster said the same thing they wouldn't want a white poster saying about us.


I’m glad you’ll be interning in NYC this summer because HOPEFULLY you’ll grasp how little good your Norman Rockwell world is doing you. And for the record, Mr. Goldman Sachs, when you live in the Tri-State Area, the term “the city” is referring to Manhattan ONLY. Brooklyn is borough as is Queens…

You’re welcome.

i lived in the city till i was 7. surely that wasn't enough time to experience black culture, but i'm getting there. i'm excited to move back to brooklyn for the very same reasons you listed. i won't be as lost as you think i am though, i'm a lot stronger and resilient than you give me credit for. hopefully you'll hear about me someday in the news, i'll give you credit for being the "sista that doubted." :lol:

Aquanetta
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:08 PM
hu?
...about "the Mexican".... (????) :rolleyes: that's right Aquanetta MEXICAN. A beautiful word isn't it? :tape:

Instead of writing Eva, I wanted to refer to as something else. Would you have noted my post if I had said the Latina? "The Mexican" is not a bad word in my world; in fact, Julia Roberts and Brad Pitt starred in a movie by that name.

Aquanetta
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:13 PM
i lived in the city till i was 7. surely that wasn't enough time to experience black culture, but i'm getting there. i'm excited to move back to brooklyn for the very same reasons you listed. i won't be as lost as you think i am though, i'm a lot stronger and resilient than you give me credit for. hopefully you'll hear about me someday in the news, i'll give you credit for being the "sista that doubted." :lol:

Are you sure about that? There are a lot of areas of Brooklyn that is largely black and Hispanic. Will you be able to handle all that color? I'm not being facetious. It will be more of an adjustment than you think...that is, unless you're planning to stay in primarily white areas like Brooklyn Heights or Bay Ridge.

M2k
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:21 PM
?"The Mexican" is not a bad word in my world

I hope not(that would be sad)...but do remember that wording makes a world of difference. No need to say "The Mexican" or "the Latina"....her name is Eva btw.

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:29 PM
not this shit again... :rolleyes:

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:32 PM
i'm not friends with either.
he's right Aquanetta.

...we haven't even squared things away yet.
we will eventually.

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:34 PM
ah...throw the "g-bomb" out there when you don't have anything else to say. :yawn:
i'm straight.
anyway, if i was gay, i'd be out with it. it's nothing to be ashamed of. anyway, everyone doubts everyone's sexuality. i'm not as wishy washy as you think, i'm just as stubborn as you.




but i do think we're equal. unfounded assertions, yet again.



i'm not friends with either. we haven't even squared things away yet. it's not what is said, it's how it's said. monique said her generalization with sense, and fundamentally, i don't DISAGREE with anything she said. however, you were just being a hypocrite, so i had to say something.



actually, i think quite the opposite. but thanks for being in my head and knowing exactly everything i think.



again, not true. i don't know where you're getting these assertions from, but that's your prerogative. i don't remember any time i've defended a white poster when he or she said something racist or ignorant. the only time i said anything regarding whites and blacks was when some black poster said the same thing they wouldn't want a white poster saying about us.



i lived in the city till i was 7. surely that wasn't enough time to experience black culture, but i'm getting there. i'm excited to move back to brooklyn for the very same reasons you listed. i won't be as lost as you think i am though, i'm a lot stronger and resilient than you give me credit for. hopefully you'll hear about me someday in the news, i'll give you credit for being the "sista that doubted." :lol:

NNF, I am not judging you but why do you put so much stock into what people have to say from these boards? This topic has been beaten into the ground yet for some reason it just keeps coming back up when you said VERBATIM that you weren't going to bring it up again. No matter what you say, or how resilient or strong you say you are, I really think some of the things people have said have affected you on and off of these boards PROFOUNDLY.

Anyway, Aqua, it was funny at first but talk about kicking a man while he's down.

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:39 PM
hu?
...about "the Mexican".... (????) :rolleyes: that's right Aquanetta MEXICAN. A beautiful word isn't it?



:tape:

What's wrong with what she said? This may sound shallow, hypocritical, etc. but it's not. There is a BIG difference in saying "This is What I think of the Mexican" compared to a non-black person saying "This is what I think of the black/African American person." Hate to say it, but it's the truth and most realize it.

Knizzle
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:39 PM
lol...naw.
but i always wanted to be darker skinned for weird reason.
i hate my complexion.

Me too, me and my sister who is yellow like me and some of our yellow cousins used to compare arms arguing over who was darker. We all wanted a tan or whatever, anything that would make us look darker. :o

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:41 PM
Me too, me and my sister who is yellow like me and some of our yellow cousins used to compare arms arguing over who was darker. We all wanted a tan or whatever, anything that would make us look darker. :o
lol....i've never been called yellow.
i got "red" some when i was younger.
i get caramel most often...
i want to be chocolate...lol...

hablo
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:48 PM
but it's their prerogative :shrug: I just don't understand why anyone of any race get bothered with interracial couples :o
:worship:

No Name Face
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:49 PM
NNF, I am not judging you but why do you put so much stock into what people have to say from these boards? This topic has been beaten into the ground yet for some reason it just keeps coming back up when you said VERBATIM that you weren't going to bring it up again. No matter what you say, or how resilient or strong you say you are, I really think some of the things people have said have affected you on and off of these boards PROFOUNDLY.

with all due respect because i'm growing to like you (sorta), but can you just stay up out of my business? it's not my style to just let someone say what they want about me without challenging them back.


Anyway, Aqua, it was funny at first but talk about kicking a man while he's down.

i don't think it was ever funny, but i'm not 'down' --- she won no argument in my opinion, since i'm not the things she and YOU think i am. she is free to think what she wants; at the end of the day, i know who i am, and that's all that matters. i've come to not mind our verbal encounters, since we both know she's full of hot air most of the time. every now and then she has a point i take with me --- if i have to sift through her rhetoric and unfounded insults to find it, it's not a complete waste of time.



we will eventually.

yup. i always had a lot of respect for you as a poster, though honestly, i know we didn't mesh well from the start (i just think we kept it civilized).
now i'm learning more about you and sarah since we've had our little fight, and hopefully we can square away our shit. i know i made mistakes, but i'm learning --- i'm really not the shit some people paint me to be though. but as of now, i hold no grudges and i hope that's mutual. :)

Are you sure about that? There are a lot of areas of Brooklyn that is largely black and Hispanic. Will you be able to handle all that color? I'm not being facetious. It will be more of an adjustment than you think...that is, unless you're planning to stay in primarily white areas like Brooklyn Heights or Bay Ridge.

i have a friend in bushwick.
and i lived on flatbush when i was in the city. i'm a big boy, i can handle myself just fine. unlike you, most people aren't judgemental when they meet me or hear what i have to say. and i do have black family, you know --- they're very proud of me, and though i wish i was closer to them (physically and emotionally), it is what it is. most of my family that i was close to actually live in tennessee and florida.

anyway, i'm proud to have positive relationships with people of every race. just because i don't have GOOD friends that are black, hispanic, or asian, doesn't mean there aren't any i associate with. in time, i'm sure i'll call some of them good friends...i just didn't meet many before college.

No Name Face
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:52 PM
i get caramel most often...


me too, though i think my skin color seems to fluctuate. i think it's just me though. :o
my sisters are a little darker than kniz, but they're around that skin tone.

btw, do any of ya'll get sunburn?

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:56 PM
lol....i've never been called yellow.
i got "red" some when i was younger.
i get caramel most often...
i want to be chocolate...lol...

"caramel" :lol:

What's funny for me is like, when somebody I know is a guy, and they are yellow/caramel, and someone asks "What's his complexion?" And they follow-up by saying "caramel?" It's weird because I can't say that another dude has a "caramel" complexion because it sounds so...how should I put it...fruity?

SJW
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:57 PM
And you’re one naïve, sheltered biracial guy who has many issues that I now suspect includes denial about sexual orientation. As Seinfeld said, “not that there’s anything wrong with that”.



I answered kabuki’s claims. I admitted I was out of line but I wasn’t embarrassed. And? Did you do the same? Have you owned up to the fact that you don’t think that WE are equal to white people?



I wasn’t the only one yet you single me out. I understand, though. Their online friendship is important so you don’t want to ruffle Miching and SJW’s feathers any further. So PATHETIC how this board controls your actions.




No Name Face, you had me pegged for some militant who doesn’t look at the black community objectively. WRONG. You, on the other hand, still see us as n*ggers who would get along with white folks if we just didn’t make any waves.



I called YOU out because you have no respect for the black side of you. So little respect that you jump to the defense of any criticisms of white people AND soft pedal on the discrimination issues that we STILL face.

I’m glad you’ll be interning in NYC this summer because HOPEFULLY you’ll grasp how little good your Norman Rockwell world is doing you. And for the record, Mr. Goldman Sachs, when you live in the Tri-State Area, the term “the city” is referring to Manhattan ONLY. Brooklyn is borough as is Queens…

You’re welcome.

you're liked a broken record. i think you need a hug from a white person.

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:06 PM
yup. i always had a lot of respect for you as a poster, though honestly, i know we didn't mesh well from the start (i just think we kept it civilized).
now i'm learning more about you and sarah since we've had our little fight, and hopefully we can square away our shit. i know i made mistakes, but i'm learning --- i'm really not the shit some people paint me to be though. but as of now, i hold no grudges and i hope that's mutual. :)
i don't hold a grudge against you.
i've learned more about you as well and i'm starting to understand where you're coming from.
i made unfair judgments about you based on what little i had read, and it was wrong. i do apologize for that.
eventually all that shit will be squared away, and hopefully we'll move on.


me too, though i think my skin color seems to fluctuate. i think it's just me though. :o
my sisters are a little darker than kniz, but they're around that skin tone.

btw, do any of ya'll get sunburn?
i'm lighter during the Winter and darker during the summer.
but i guess that the case for all light skin people.
and i do sunburn.
i got sun burnt like hell once on a beach vacation.
the shit hurt like hell.

Knizzle
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:08 PM
me too, though i think my skin color seems to fluctuate. i think it's just me though. :o
my sisters are a little darker than kniz, but they're around that skin tone.

btw, do any of ya'll get sunburn?

Naw, never a sunburn, I just turn the color of like.......peanut brittle, LOL.

No Name Face
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:09 PM
i'm lighter during the Winter and darker during the summer.
but i guess that the case for all light skin people.
and i do sunburn.
i got sun burnt like hell once on a beach vacation.
the shit hurt like hell.

i sunburn quite frequently. it sucks. especially during summer when i play tennis...i wear wifebeaters and my shoulders and arms get really red. and my face too.

:mad:

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:12 PM
Naw, never a sunburn, I just turn the color of like.......peanut brittle, LOL.
it's the Asian in me. :sad:
i get burnt all the time if i'm out in the sun without protection for a long period of time.

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:12 PM
it's the Asian in me. :sad:
i get burnt all the time if i'm out in the sun for a long period of time.

you're asian? and i never had a sunburn before

SJW
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:15 PM
:laughsatlightskinnedpeople:

LOL jk :bolt:

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:16 PM
you're asian? and i never had a sunburn before?
my grandmother is Asian.
and i do a lot of volunteer work that requires me to be out in the blazing sun for hours cleaning, shoveling, hiking...shit like that.
i don't get burnt as often now cause i use sunscreen lotion.
i didn't before.

Knizzle
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:19 PM
I dunno why I wouldn't get it, but yall do. I used to be in the hot sun all damn day and never had any irritation due to the sun. Lucky I guess.

decemberlove
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:19 PM
LOL at the black people who get burnt. :ras:

I've only been burnt once - a very long time ago. The most I ever get is red cheeks.

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:19 PM
my grandmother is Asian.
and i do a lot of volunteer work that requires me to be out in the blazing sun for hours cleaning, shoveling, hiking...shit like that.
i don't get burnt as often now cause i use sunscreen lotion.
i didn't before.

I just tell people I'm black because i get tired of them asking me what race I am or what I am mixed with...

No Name Face
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:19 PM
gah, it serves me right that i get sunburn :ras:
i usually don't wear sunscreen, but i will now...i'm scared of melanoma.

i get burnt if i'm out without sunscreen...although i don't look all gross. my skin just gets red for a few days, but because of my complexion, it doesn't look all that weird.

No Name Face
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:21 PM
I just tell people I'm black because i get tired of them asking me what race I am or what I am mixed with...

believe it or not, i do this too.
but then if people see pictures of my family then i have to explain. i hate it.
people tend to think i'm blacktino instead of black and white though. *shrug*

Knizzle
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:23 PM
LOL at the black people who get burnt. :ras:

I've only been burnt once - a very long time ago. The most I ever get is red cheeks.

:awww: Syphillis?? Gonorrhea?? Chlamydia?? Warts? Crabs?????? :spit:

Sorry, but that statement just JUMPED off the screen at me. :tape:

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:24 PM
I dunno why I wouldn't get it, but yall do. I used to be in the hot sun all damn day and never had any irritation due to the sun. Lucky I guess.
lol...i get it bad.
like...one time, i was burnt to the point where my skin was peeling and raw. i couldn't even like rub my arm it hurt so bad.
it came from me not wearing sunscreen the entire week cause no one else did....stupid me. :retard:

I just tell people I'm black because i get tired of them asking me what race I am or what I am mixed with...
the only reason people even question if i'm black is from my eyes.
i hardly acknowledge my Asian side cause it's my father's side and i never knew him or the rest of my family on his side like that.
i was raised by my Mama and grew up around her side of the family.

Aquanetta
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:26 PM
I hope not(that would be sad)...but do remember that wording makes a world of difference. No need to say "The Mexican" or "the Latina"....her name is Eva btw.

Why not? I've heard Latinas refer to other Latinas as "Latinas".

Knizzle
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:26 PM
lol...i get it bad.
like...one time, i was burnt to the point where my skin was peeling and raw. i couldn't even like rub my arm it hurt so bad.
it came from me not wearing sunscreen the entire week cause no one else did....stupid me. :retard:

Mo?? A cracker?? What is the world coming to? http://photobucket.com/albums/a220/20010/th_thud.gif

decemberlove
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:27 PM
:awww: Syphillis?? Gonorrhea?? Chlamydia?? Warts? Crabs?????? :spits:

Sorry, but that statement just JUMPED off the screen at me. :tape:

WTF. You have a gutter mind. That's the last thing I think of when I see "burnt".

Aquanetta
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:27 PM
NNF, I am not judging you but why do you put so much stock into what people have to say from these boards? This topic has been beaten into the ground yet for some reason it just keeps coming back up when you said VERBATIM that you weren't going to bring it up again. No matter what you say, or how resilient or strong you say you are, I really think some of the things people have said have affected you on and off of these boards PROFOUNDLY.

Anyway, Aqua, it was funny at first but talk about kicking a man while he's down.

He won't let it go so I don't mind. LOL. I still feel sorry for him.

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:29 PM
Mo?? A cracker?? What is the world coming to? http://photobucket.com/albums/a220/20010/th_thud.gif
fuck you MFer. :ras: :lol:

oh, and i forgot to :ras: at Holly too for her laughing at me. :awww:

Aquanetta
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:29 PM
he's right Aquanetta.


we will eventually.

You may not be friends but it's important to No Name Face to be in YOUR good graces...and he knows that!

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:29 PM
Mo?? A cracker?? What is the world coming to? http://photobucket.com/albums/a220/20010/th_thud.gif
fuck you MFer. :ras: :lol:

oh, and i forgot to :ras: at Holly and Sarah for laughing at me. :awww:

decemberlove
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:32 PM
fuck you MFer. :ras: :lol:

oh, and i forgot to :ras: at Holly and Sarah for laughing at me. :awww:

I wouldn't have laughed if I knew you peeled. Peeling always looked really scary to me. :kiss:

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:35 PM
You may not be friends but it's important to No Name Face to be in YOUR good graces...and he knows that!
lol...whatever.
I wouldn't have laughed if I knew you peeled. Peeling always looked really scary to me. :kiss:
lol...i forgive you then. :p :hug:

Rocketta
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:37 PM
Mo, my sister is dark skin but when she went to the FCC with me she got burned like a MFer. Peeling and splotches...she forgot to put sun tan lotion on her chest but wore a low cut tank top. :o

CC
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:38 PM
I've never gotten burnt; just really tanned. One year my mama went to Point Pleasant without sun tan. She got toasted. :tape:

Aquanetta
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:38 PM
What's wrong with what she said? This may sound shallow, hypocritical, etc. but it's not. There is a BIG difference in saying "This is What I think of the Mexican" compared to a non-black person saying "This is what I think of the black/African American person." Hate to say it, but it's the truth and most realize it.

Saying "This is what I think of the black/African American person" packs more of a wallop because we are the premiere “controversial” minority but I don’t see the difference. I’m not offended by the comment.

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:43 PM
Saying "This is what I think of the black/African American person" packs more of a wallop because we are the premiere “controversial” minority but I don’t see the difference. I’m not offended by the comment.

There is a difference to me. Just like people who complain that there is a "BET" for black but not a white specific channel. I tell them anytime I turn on my TV I am watching it :rolleyes:

I mean, there are just some racial slights you can use to other races but when it comes to blacks there is a very fine line.

Aquanetta
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:45 PM
i have a friend in bushwick.

Bushwick is a ghetto that’s becoming a little gentrified (and I mean a little; don’t expect Williamsburg). It’s primarily black and Hispanic but don’t worry: bohemian whites live there, too.

Is that where you’re staying?

and i lived on flatbush when i was in the city.

You didn’t live in “the city”; you lived in Brooklyn. Get it right!

i'm a big boy, i can handle myself just fine. unlike you, most people aren't judgemental when they meet me or hear what i have to say.

And, pray tell, what did you post on this board for me to judge you as I did?

Exactly.

anyway, i'm proud to have positive relationships with people of every race. just because i don't have GOOD friends that are black, hispanic, or asian, doesn't mean there aren't any i associate with. in time, i'm sure i'll call some of them good friends...i just didn't meet many before college.

I hope so because that way you’ll realize that you’re not unique. You’ll probably shocked to learn that there are minorities more assimilated than you.

Black Mamba.
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:45 PM
I know for certain Black folks skin fluctuates in tone all the time. Case in point, I live in Colorado so my skin is a shade lighter than Samuel L Jackson in the winter, but in the Summer I usually get fairly dark. I can remember one summer when I was 8 I stayed in the sun so much that I almost looked Wesley Snipes dark

Aquanetta
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:48 PM
you're liked a broken record. i think you need a hug from a white person.

My whole interaction with No Name Face is a broken record.

You also missed the point that I don't have nothing against white people despite my hardline stance. I just don’t mince words nor do I tread lightly around them like some people of color frequently do.

Aquanetta
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:53 PM
There is a difference to me. Just like people who complain that there is a "BET" for black but not a white specific channel. I tell them anytime I turn on my TV I am watching it :rolleyes:

I mean, there are just some racial slights you can use to other races but when it comes to blacks there is a very fine line.

I agree with that—white people can be naïve when it comes to explaining the reason for BET and other minority-oriented businesses—but being called “That African-American” doesn’t bother me. If there’s some hate behind it, that’s a different story.

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:53 PM
I almost looked Wesley Snipes dark
:drool: :lick:

then you were perfect. :devil:

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:55 PM
:drool: :lick:

then you were perfect. :devil:

into the boys now, eh? I guess you are finally coming back where you belong.

Infiniti2001
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:59 PM
you're liked a broken record. i think you need a hug from a white person.

:worship: :worship: :yeah:

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:00 PM
:worship: :worship: :yeah:

broken record? KMKAUFFMAN1959 anyone?

Knizzle
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:01 PM
:drool: :lick:

then you were perfect. :devil:

meh. :rolleyes:

SJW
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:04 PM
into the boys now, eh? I guess you are finally coming back where you belong.

why are you always in the girl's business? :)
bisexual or not she don't want you. just leave it alone and STFU about it :)

Knizzle
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:07 PM
why are you always in the girl's business? :)
bisexual or not she don't want you. just leave it alone and STFU about it :)

COOOOOOOLDBLOOOODED!!!!

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:08 PM
why are you always in the girl's business? :)
bisexual or not she don't want you. just leave it alone and STFU about it :)

I never said she wanted me. I can't fathom what would happen if I took away your internet girlfriend. :)

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:09 PM
meh. :rolleyes:
:awww:....i'd make an exception for you darlin. i already told you. :kiss:
why are you always in the girl's business? :)
bisexual or not she don't want you. just leave it alone and STFU about it :)
i :hearts: you. :awww: :kiss: :D

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:13 PM
Eva Longoria is FINE as hell BTW. I think that has been the most OBVIOUS thing in this thread that hasn't been brought up.

SJW
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:15 PM
I never said she wanted me. I can't fathom what would happen if I took away your internet girlfriend. :)

nice edit :)
the only thing you could take from me is a cussing out. she's just tired of you CONSTANTLY being in her business about her sexuality. get the fuck over it. she likes women as well as men. so fucking what. stop being an idiot about it :rolleyes:
now back to the thread. :)

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:17 PM
nice edit :)
the only thing you could take from me is a cussing out.
now back to the thread. :)

I admit that I am due for a tongue lashing right about now..

Anyway, how'd you know I edited. Because at the bottom of the post it doesn't say i edited anything like it usually does :shrug:

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:21 PM
nice edit :)
the only thing you could take from me is a cussing out. she's just tired of you CONSTANTLY being in her business about her sexuality. get the fuck over it. she likes women as well as men. so fucking what. stop being an idiot about it :rolleyes:
now back to the thread. :)

nice edit :) this is the LAST thing I am going to say regarding this...

I don't CONSTANTLY bring up her sexuality but I will admit that a couple days ago I grilled her hard about it but it was more about "curiosity" than anything else.

BTW, I think miching is more than capable of speaking up for herself.

back to the thread... bwah! hah! hah!

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:25 PM
nice edit :)
the only thing you could take from me is a cussing out. she's just tired of you CONSTANTLY being in her business about her sexuality. get the fuck over it. she likes women as well as men. so fucking what. stop being an idiot about it :rolleyes:
now back to the thread. :)
:drool: :hearts: :kiss:


and G, you've been up in my business for a while now...far longer than the past few days.
and why would i need to say anything when SJW puts it so eloquently? :)

No Name Face
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:27 PM
Bushwick is a ghetto that’s becoming a little gentrified (and I mean a little; don’t expect Williamsburg). It’s primarily black and Hispanic but don’t worry: bohemian whites live there, too.

Is that where you’re staying?

wouldn't you like to know? gonna come to my apartment and tell me how white i am? or do you wanna hook up? i'm into older women sometimes...if you're hot, bring it.


You didn’t live in “the city”; you lived in Brooklyn. Get it right!

norms are made to be broken.


And, pray tell, what did you post on this board for me to judge you as I did?

Exactly.

absolutely nothing. i am who i am. i put it out there. i'm not ashamed and i'm not embarrased. i'd say i fucked up twice on the boards, both times i've admitted i was wrong. i'm still not apologizing and i'm still not worthy of your pity.


I hope so because that way you’ll realize that you’re not unique. You’ll probably shocked to learn that there are minorities more assimilated than you.

according to you, i couldn't be any more white so that's a shock.

btw, i don't think i am unique. i am unique on these boards though. there's no one else like me here. and even in my "sheltered" existence, i've met quite a few blacks like me through my dad. and we're all cool. we're not competing to be the "best black person" for white people. i laugh at those hollow assertions. i'm proud of who i am and what i stand for --- i make no apologies.

----

DISCLAIMER: don't read it if you don't want to, this is for aquanetta:

you've yet to refute the point that you're a hypocrite, aqua. you stated that you wish the black community would accept all blacks and not call them white-washed if they're different. you've actually gone above and beyond that with me. i've never claimed to be white, i've never claimed to feel white, even though i am half white. do you have something against mulattos who were raised 'white'? anyway, in your blind apathy to anything i have to say --- you've yet to realize that i've always been in the spotlight because i was one of the only black kids among a bunch of white kids. you don't think this was pointed out to me? my skin? my lips? my hair (every white kid LOVES black hair and want to put their hands in it)? my eyes? how awesome do you think it was for me and my family when i graduated at the top of my class (OF PRIMARILY WHITE PEOPLE) and singlehandedly proved a commonly held stereotype wrong? i am a prime example of a minority who was removed from a counterproductive situation (bad part of brooklyn) and not only succeeded in a 'white situation', i fucking excelled. all 341 people in my graduating class will always know that one of the smartest people in their grade was black --- it'll change perceptions in time, i'm sure. in turn, i was voted most likely to succeed, so even they knew i was bound for good things. i'm sorry that i didn't have a negative experience --- there's not much i can work with when my intelligence was pretty much universally recognized by my peers. i'm sure all the conservative parents in upstate wanted their white kid giving the saluatatory speech, but guess what. they couldn't because i was smarter and better than their kid. i wasn't standing up in front of 3,400 white people saying "oh my brothers and sisters" --- i was like one of ten black people in my grade (most of which i never met because i was in honors classes and we were literally separated from the rest of our class) and yet i was the one representing all of them. so take your narrow minded assumptions of me and reconsider.

truth be told, i wouldn't have made it as far as i did if i thought i was lesser than the white people i outperformed in school and throughout a lot of things in life. i feel bad saying this because my mom and part of my family is white, but this is what i think. i'm above and beyond what you think of me. so the question remains, aquanetta, why can't YOU accept me for who i am? i'm not apologizing and i'm not feeling bad about myself. in 20 years, i have a lot to be proud of. and the best is yet to come.

you wanna know something funny aquanetta? the person who handles the rankings in my high school knew all of the other "top kids" except me. i was the only black person and one of two minorities (the other was an asian, who is a good friend of mine). this lady had no idea that i was giving the salutatory speech since i graduated 2nd in the class and then made it a priority to tell me how great and inspirational i was because i did. "oh, i'm so sorry i didn't get to know you" bullshit. :rolleyes:

i actually don't mind you so much anymore. you've helped me validate that there are ignorant people out there, black and white, who will never accept me for who i am. it's sad, but it's a lesson i didn't think i'd learn on a message board. anyway, take it easy. :)

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:28 PM
:drool: :hearts: :kiss:


and G, you've been up in my business for a while now...far longer than the past few days.
and why would i need to say anything when SJW puts it so eloquently? :)

I've been in your business?! ummm, what have you been smoking? The only thing that I have 'joked' with you about that is your business is your whole sexuality issue and it was just that: a joke. I never took it seriously and you joked back with me, so I dont know why I am getting attacked all of a sudden out of nowhere.

If you had a problem with this, you should have told me from the jump and I would have stopped, or you could have PM'd me about it.

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:32 PM
I've been in your business?! ummm, what have you been smoking? The only thing that I have 'joked' with you about that is your business is your whole sexuality issue and it was just that: a joke. I never took it seriously and you joked back with me, so I dont know why I am getting attacked all of a sudden out of nowhere.

If you had a problem with this, you should have told me from the jump and I would have stopped, or you could have PM'd me about it.
:lol: :rolleyes:
________
does anyone else have anything to say?
Knizzle? King? Rocketta? anyone?
no?
i'm gone then...:wavey:

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:36 PM
:lol: :rolleyes:
________
does anyone else have anything to say?
Knizzle? King? Rocketta? anyone?
no?
i'm gone then...:wavey:

explain to me why what i said is funny?

No Name Face
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:38 PM
i do remember monique saying something about it, cuz i was a part of that convo too.

Knizzle
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:46 PM
G, u be in everyone's shit nigga, u ain't gotta lie Craig.

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:47 PM
explain to me why you feel this way?
i have explained it to you....NUMEROUS times.
i'm done though...figure it out yourself.:shrug:

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:51 PM
i have explained it to you....NUMEROUS times.
i'm done though...figure it out yourself.:shrug:

Well, I am still left in the dark about what you mean but I dont care enough to find out so let's leave this topic in the mud...


okae..whatever...moving on...

ampers&
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:54 PM
moving on...
thank God for that. :D :bowdown:

G1Player2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:56 PM
This thread isn't even about Eva Longoria anymore?

No Name Face
Mar 22nd, 2006, 08:01 PM
This thread isn't even about Eva Longoria anymore?

no one cares about that ho...
wendy just has a way of creating drama wherever she is ;)

Black Mamba.
Mar 22nd, 2006, 08:09 PM
This thread isn't even about Eva Longoria anymore?


Yeah the thread did get a life of its own, Eva is fine though.

RVD
Mar 22nd, 2006, 08:26 PM
That's O.K. You're a great guy, and we generally share the same views and ideas anyway :)

Besides, I catch myself doing the same thing at times...



It's all about "education".

In many other cultures, "money" and "power" are the two main things that determines what part of the social ladder their people occupy. There are other factors, but they're the ones that stick out at the top of my head.

Amongst Asians, however, it's "education". Sure, "money" and "power" are important, but amongst Asians, "education" is the only way to secure a future with lots of $$$ and plenty of influence. It's the only thing that earns people respect in a lot (and probably all) of Asian communities.

In other societies, however, it's not just "education" that earns you respect. You get props for being a successful sports/movie/singing star, writer, academic.....just about anything that shows your talent, be it money, creativity, or whatever. Basically, you get props in a much wider array of jobs and occupations.

With Asians, however, it's the "bookworm road" that's recognised as a sure way to money and success. Why else would courses like Engineering, Commerce/Macroeconomics, Medicine, Science, Computer Science and Bioengineering have such a high number of Asian students?

And that's why Asian parents don't like to see their kids dating until their at least in their 20s. They see dating as a threat to their kid's future, if it's done too early.



If their parents found out they're dating "outside" their race, then they'll have a shitload of flak to look forward to :tape:

Oh, it won't be much though. Their mums would nag, nag, nag, (and then nag some more) while their dads would pretend to not care, but you can see they care very much about what their grandkids would look like.



Oh, I see :)

I don't know about Asian-Americans, but the Asians over here in Australia...well, it's much rarer these days to see an Asian girl date a white guy. Not to say that there aren't any, but the frequence of Asian interracial relationships is very rare.

Even at my Uni, you often see Asians hang out with other Asians only - and that includes those who speak English with the Aussie accent.

The Chinese especially are proud (i.e. arrogantly boastful) of their country's status as the world's next big thing, and they're much more open about their "Chinese-ness". And that includes not hanging out as much with non-Chinese people.



One thing about older Asians is this: they're conservative.

That's why they're a quiet bunch in public (at least in non-Asian places). And that's why they put little effort in integrating with another culture or learning its language.

Nearly all the older Asians I know can barely speak a word of English. They always use the excuse "we don't have time to learn English", but it's clearly bullshit.

Anyway, the "blocking" is because the older Asian folk feel threatened by what's going on. The concept of family is very, very, very important in Asia. That's why even when people are fully grown adults with a family of their own, they still get their parents to live with them. It's very much unlike other cultures where the most important thing that parents teach their kids is independence. With Asians, it's about families sticking together.

And that's why Asian folks spend so much time with their kids: they're grooming them to land a secure job (usually a medical or office one) and bring up a stable family. And that "stable family" must, in their eyes, be an Asian one because older Asians are distrustful of non-Asian culture. They are very proud of the qualities that "Asians" connotates (e.g. studying, hard-working, etc.) and they think that other cultures don't share that. So when they see an Asian with another non-Asian, they think that (1) everything they taught their kids have been ignored, and (2) that the non-Asian is only using the Asian for financial security or God knows what.

It's all about old-fashioned values. A lot of cultures had them in the past. It's just that Asians haven't quite modernised yet, whereas the others have.

My advice to your brother is to ignore the older Asians if he thinks they've gone too far. They won't do much, other than whine or bitch to the girl. Otherwise, the Asians will soon get over it, just like they do with everything else :)Thanks Veritas!! I greatly appreciate the reply and your openness for discussion. And you know, I can honestly understand where the older Asian parents are coming from. Still, relationships should be allowed to flourish regardless of ethnic and cultural differences. You'd be surprised at how many Black families hold the same academic views as the Asian people. In fact, I'm a bit of a stickler myself where academics are concerned. ;)
However, I also teach my kids to be open and respectful of other cultures and races. I believe that for people and cultures to relate [socially] we should all be open to new experiences. And that would include relationships outside the 'race'.
It takes strong individuals to break free from traditional 'cultural blinders', but as you mentioned, education plays a huge role. And what older folks on both sides don't realize is that education is what, IMHO, will eventually eliminate social, cultural, and racial misunderstandings and differences that presently exist today. :worship:

RVD
Mar 22nd, 2006, 08:49 PM
I've only read up to page 7, so maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit. But I feel that I have to say this before I forget. :) So here goes.

People will date who they are attracted to. Whether one is what you consider ungly or beautiful. Love isn't bound by rules like most people would like to think. It can't really be defined because it's so complex. Whether we're talking physiological, mental, or attraction based on need, race becomes less of a factor as the human race grows.

I know that there are some here who have a problem with Black men dating outside the race. But that's only because you've probably never experienced casual relationships outside your race. If you did, you'd discover that the common denominator that prevents you from bridging the relationship' gap is knowledge of who you are as a person.

Since I've started working with the school district, I've learned that there are more and more White teachers [mainly females] who despise how the school are segregated along ethnic lines.

I was fortunate enough to meet this one mother and son who would prefer to attend a mainly Black school than any other because they wanted to relate to people outside their own race. This young man is my son's age and is the nicest kid you could ever meet. He gets 'jacked' with a LOT, but he keeps moving forward. THAT is something that I can admire in a family and individual. The strength to take a stand and stick with it, regardless of the difficulties.

It's one main reason why I've joined so many school committees as well. I been asked to run for Superintendent of Schools for the last 3 years, but I can't see myself making the progress I've made on the ground if I accept a purely political roll. And I would make a horrible politician because I speak my mind and take no concessions. :shrug:

At any rate, this is an incredible discussion. It's giving me a lot to think about. And maybe I will run for a city office in the future.

SJW
Mar 22nd, 2006, 09:00 PM
nice edit :) this is the LAST thing I am going to say regarding this...

I don't CONSTANTLY bring up her sexuality but I will admit that a couple days ago I grilled her hard about it but it was more about "curiosity" than anything else.

BTW, I think miching is more than capable of speaking up for herself.

back to the thread... bwah! hah! hah!
but i'm also bisexual so i take issue with what you say, the way you phrase it and how often you say it.

you ALWAYS say stuff like "you just aint found the right man yet" and "no woman can compare to the pleasure of man meat" (classic) and "you'll come back when you realise that you're not being pleasured enough" and "you're just confused".

NEGRO PLEASE. it's boys like you who made me half turn to the other side in the first place. do you say things like that to bisexuals/lesbians in real life? that shit is tired :yawn:

sorry guys. i have a nasty habit of being a thread nazi and making things about me. thought it was in remission, but certain things seem to trigger it :devil:

SelesFan70
Mar 22nd, 2006, 09:41 PM
you're liked a broken record. i think you need a hug from a white person.

How's about a group hug!?


http://deephousepage.com/smilies/grouphug.gif

meyerpl
Mar 22nd, 2006, 09:44 PM
How's about a group hug!?


http://deephousepage.com/smilies/grouphug.gif
'Cause we're all good enough, we're all smart enough, and dogone it, people like us!

No Name Face
Mar 22nd, 2006, 09:45 PM
I've only read up to page 7, so maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit. But I feel that I have to say this before I forget. :) So here goes.

People will date who they are attracted to. Whether one is what you consider ungly or beautiful. Love isn't bound by rules like most people would like to think. It can't really be defined because it's so complex. Whether we're talking physiological, mental, or attraction based on need, race becomes less of a factor as the human race grows.

I know that there are some here who have a problem with Black men dating outside the race. But that's only because you've probably never experienced casual relationships outside your race. If you did, you'd discover that the common denominator that prevents you from bridging the relationship' gap is knowledge of who you are as a person.

Since I've started working with the school district, I've learned that there are more and more White teachers [mainly females] who despise how the school are segregated along ethnic lines.

I was fortunate enough to meet this one mother and son who would prefer to attend a mainly Black school than any other because they wanted to relate to people outside their own race. This young man is my son's age and is the nicest kid you could ever meet. He gets 'jacked' with a LOT, but he keeps moving forward. THAT is something that I can admire in a family and individual. The strength to take a stand and stick with it, regardless of the difficulties.

It's one main reason why I've joined so many school committees as well. I been asked to run for Superintendent of Schools for the last 3 years, but I can't see myself making the progress I've made on the ground if I accept a purely political roll. And I would make a horrible politician because I speak my mind and take no concessions. :shrug:

At any rate, this is an incredible discussion. It's giving me a lot to think about. And maybe I will run for a city office in the future.

quality as usual.

and i'd vote for you. :yeah:

Stamp Paid
Mar 22nd, 2006, 09:56 PM
:laughsatlightskinnedpeople:

LOL jk :bolt:

:lol: :lol:

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 03:50 PM
wouldn't you like to know? gonna come to my apartment and tell me how white i am? or do you wanna hook up? i'm into older women sometimes...if you're hot, bring it.

I asked where you were staying because I was wondering how you would adapt to that particular Brooklyn neighborhood.

absolutely nothing. i am who i am. i put it out there. i'm not ashamed and i'm not embarrased. i'd say i fucked up twice on the boards, both times i've admitted i was wrong. i'm still not apologizing and i'm still not worthy of your pity.

Good. Don’t ever apologize for anything you say here unless you really feel you need to. There’s no reason to save face. Well, actually the only reason for doing so (saving face) I suppose would be for the mere fact that one might have co-dependent board friendships. If that is the case, I can understand the need to avoid ruffling feathers. Personally, I wouldn’t care but I can fathom how some people would.

according to you, i couldn't be any more white so that's a shock.

Now you’re just being a drama queen. So that we don’t have to go through this AGAIN: I think that you have a lot of hang-ups about being black. Notice you don’t struggle with your white identity?

btw, i don't think i am unique. i am unique on these boards though. there's no one else like me here. and even in my "sheltered" existence, i've met quite a few blacks like me through my dad. and we're all cool. we're not competing to be the "best black person" for white people. i laugh at those hollow assertions. i'm proud of who i am and what i stand for --- i make no apologies.

Now you’re just being clueless and arrogant. There could be ‘blacks like you” on this board; they are just more comfortable in their skin than you are in yours. They don’t volunteer their uniqueness at every turn like you. That’s where you’re so naïve. Wait until you get to Brooklyn; you’ll see that your experience is not unique.

you've yet to refute the point that you're a hypocrite, aqua. you stated that you wish the black community would accept all blacks and not call them white-washed if they're different. you've actually gone above and beyond that with me.

But the blacks that I was referring to do NOT have your hang-ups; they are quite comfortable in their blackness. Be that as it may, why would I be critical of them?

You have clearly expressed that you OFTEN associate negativity with our community. Do you think I’m going to let you get away with that? You’re just so naïve and DON’T realize the versatility of black people. Brooklyn will help you with that perception!!!

i've never claimed to be white, i've never claimed to feel white, even though i am half white. do you have something against mulattos who were raised 'white'?

I do have a problem in situations where their parents failed to raise their kids with the mentality to 1) embrace BOTH races and 2) give a realistic portrait of their existence as a biracial person.

anyway, in your blind apathy to anything i have to say --- you've yet to realize that i've always been in the spotlight because i was one of the only black kids among a bunch of white kids.

Our dialogue has never reached those depths so how do you know for sure that I never came to that realization? Of course I did and I have to stipulate, No Name Face: YOUR EXPERIENCE IS NOT UNIQUE so get over it already!

you don't think this was pointed out to me? my skin? my lips? my hair (every white kid LOVES black hair and want to put their hands in it)? my eyes? how awesome do you think it was for me and my family when i graduated at the top of my class (OF PRIMARILY WHITE PEOPLE) and singlehandedly proved a commonly held stereotype wrong?

Your naivete is so GLARING!!!!!!! No Name Face, ask your dad: BLACK PEOPLE HAVE KNOWN THIS FOR C E N T U R I E S. Its’ so ridiculous that you’re trying to “school” me on something black people have ALWAYS known whether they have biracial people in their family or not.

It’s almost comical how emphatic you’re being with this “news”.

i am a prime example of a minority who was removed from a counterproductive situation (bad part of brooklyn) and not only succeeded in a 'white situation', i fucking excelled.

LOL.

Earth to No Name Face: IT'S BEEN DONE.

I'm happy for you but there are "bruthas" and "sistuhs" who can wax just as poetic about outsmarting "the man" and did so with more guts.

all 341 people in my graduating class will always know that one of the smartest people in their grade was black --- it'll change perceptions in time, i'm sure.

If only Marcus Garvey was as humble.

in turn, i was voted most likely to succeed, so even they knew i was bound for good things. i'm sorry that i didn't have a negative experience ---

Now you're putting words in my mouth.

And PLEASE stop apologizing.

there's not much i can work with when my intelligence was pretty much universally recognized by my peers. i'm sure all the conservative parents in upstate wanted their white kid giving the saluatatory speech, but guess what. they couldn't because i was smarter and better than their kid.

But you're half white so they were only partially disappointed.

i wasn't standing up in front of 3,400 white people saying "oh my brothers and sisters"

LOL. You are killing me.

--- i was like one of ten black people in my grade (most of which i never met because i was in honors classes and we were literally separated from the rest of our class)

Of course not. The other 9 black students weren't up to snuff. It's amazing how, without fail, among blacks you always manage to stand out. Astounding.

and yet i was the one representing all of them. so take your narrow minded assumptions of me and reconsider.

Is that the way that YOU really felt or...were you influenced by others that you were "paving the way"?

With all your intelligence, you do realize that you did NOT have to represent the other 9 black students? It's commendable that you did IF that's what you sincerely felt but there was no obligation. Not all of us have "black pride"; you may be one of those people. It's a shame but by no means is it a "sin".

truth be told, i wouldn't have made it as far as i did if i thought i was lesser than the white people i outperformed in school and throughout a lot of things in life. i feel bad saying this because my mom and part of my family is white, but this is what i think. i'm above and beyond what you think of me. so the question remains, aquanetta, why can't YOU accept me for who i am? i'm not apologizing and i'm not feeling bad about myself. in 20 years, i have a lot to be proud of. and the best is yet to come.

Why? Because on a suffcient amount of occasions you have demonstrated that you're "colorstruck". I do NOT deal well with black people who have major or minor hang-ups about being black. I think that you do. I don't hate you but I do dislike you. Are there things about you that impresses me? Yes, I like your ambition, for example, BUT...it's all outweighed by your identity issues.

you wanna know something funny aquanetta? the person who handles the rankings in my high school knew all of the other "top kids" except me. i was the only black person and one of two minorities (the other was an asian, who is a good friend of mine). this lady had no idea that i was giving the salutatory speech since i graduated 2nd in the class and then made it a priority to tell me how great and inspirational i was because i did. "oh, i'm so sorry i didn't get to know you" bullshit.

Now that's sad. I'm truly sorry that happened to you. Race aside, no one likes feeling slighted in these situations.

i actually don't mind you so much anymore. you've helped me validate that there are ignorant people out there, black and white, who will never accept me for who i am. it's sad, but it's a lesson i didn't think i'd learn on a message board. anyway, take it easy.

That's the most compelling thing you've said in this long post. Don't backpedal and don't apologize for being the person you really are, no matter how aggressively you're challenged.

You confirmed that there are still so many self-esteem issues in our community, issues that I know won't be rectified in any our lifetimes.

I'm happy that I Iive in my world and not yours but I wish you no ill will.

Stamp Paid
Mar 23rd, 2006, 03:54 PM
Denny pls, just dont say nuffin. :D

ampers&
Mar 23rd, 2006, 03:55 PM
Denny pls, just dont say nuffin. :D
:lol:

Black Mamba.
Mar 23rd, 2006, 04:01 PM
Dang it sounds to me that No Name Face and Aquanetta have argued like this in other posts. Do you two know each other offline because this seems to be getting really personal

kiwifan
Mar 23rd, 2006, 04:21 PM
Dang it sounds to me that No Name Face and Aquanetta have argued like this in other posts. Do you two know each other offline because this seems to be getting really personal

Yes, I think I get it... one is at the vanguard of the Noble Negro experience setting a positive example as a credit to his race. He is a man of the world and going places and thinks that others could just follow his example and the world would be a better place for all people of color (in other words he is me when I was 20 years old)

The other is of the opinion that the Noble Negro doesn't understand that he isn't the only Noble Negro on the planet and that he needs to recognize ... uh ... something about blackness that he heretofor has failed to see. (although methinks there is very little that our Noble Negro can do to make things better in WTAworld as all arguments will be met with counter-arguments - at least that's what the evidence so far indicates)

I don't know Aquanetta at all and I agree with No Name Face sometimes and disagree other times and I believe all those opinions have been stated on the record. :p

So the recommended solution? :scratch:

Perhaps one of them can truly prove what a wise and righteous Negro they truly are...

...by not responding to the other and letting this never ending shit go away. :lol: :lol: :lol: :tape:

Cheers. :wavey:

Stamp Paid
Mar 23rd, 2006, 04:26 PM
Yes, I think I get it... one is at the vanguard of the Noble Negro experience setting a positive example as a credit to his race. He is a man of the world and going places and thinks that others could just follow his example and the world would be a better place for all people of color (in other words he is me when I was 20 years old)

The other is of the opinion that the Noble Negro doesn't understand that he isn't the only Noble Negro on the planet and that he needs to recognize ... uh ... something about blackness that he heretofor has failed to see. (although methinks there is very little that our Noble Negro can do to make things better in WTAworld as all arguments will be met with counter-arguments - at least that's what the evidence so far indicates)

I don't know Aquanetta at all and I agree with No Name Face sometimes and disagree other times and I believe all those opinions have been stated on the record. :p

So the recommended solution? :scratch:

Perhaps one of them can truly prove what a wise and righteous Negro they truly are...

...by not responding to the other and letting this never ending shit go away. :lol: :lol: :lol: :tape:

Cheers. :wavey:

ROTFLMAO :worship:

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:03 PM
Dang it sounds to me that No Name Face and Aquanetta have argued like this in other posts. Do you two know each other offline because this seems to be getting really personal

The board is our only connection. Yes, it is personal; neither of us will budge
and I wouldn't want it any other way.

G1Player2
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:11 PM
The board is our only connection. Yes, it is personal; neither of us will budge
and I wouldn't want it any other way.

This is not referring to your posts whatsoever but I will say I respect you in the sense that you are sticking to your guns and saying what you have to say no matter what some people on this board say about it.

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:11 PM
Yes, I think I get it... one is at the vanguard of the Noble Negro experience setting a positive example as a credit to his race. He is a man of the world and going places and thinks that others could just follow his example and the world would be a better place for all people of color (in other words he is me when I was 20 years old)

The other is of the opinion that the Noble Negro doesn't understand that he isn't the only Noble Negro on the planet and that he needs to recognize ... uh ... something about blackness that he heretofor has failed to see. (although methinks there is very little that our Noble Negro can do to make things better in WTAworld as all arguments will be met with counter-arguments - at least that's what the evidence so far indicates)

I don't know Aquanetta at all and I agree with No Name Face sometimes and disagree other times and I believe all those opinions have been stated on the record. :p

So the recommended solution? :scratch:

Perhaps one of them can truly prove what a wise and righteous Negro they truly are...

...by not responding to the other and letting this never ending shit go away. :lol: :lol: :lol: :tape:

Cheers. :wavey:

:lol: okay...i'll be that negro. you actually made that hilarious.

Denny pls, just dont say nuffin. :D

fine. that means i can't read it though. :tape:

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:13 PM
Yes, I think I get it... one is at the vanguard of the Noble Negro experience setting a positive example as a credit to his race. He is a man of the world and going places and thinks that others could just follow his example and the world would be a better place for all people of color ](in other words he is me when I was 20 years old)

The other is of the opinion that the Noble Negro doesn't understand that he isn't the only Noble Negro on the planet and that he needs to recognize ... uh ... something about blackness that he heretofore has failed to see. (although methinks there is very little that our Noble Negro can do to make things better in WTAworld as all arguments will be met with counter-arguments - at least that's what the evidence so far indicates)

My bone of contention is that No Name Face does not respect black people. He has frequently-- unbeknownst to him because he's is that naive-- said things that slights our community, often implying that if we didn't act so "difficult" then we'd have a more harmonious relationship with the white race.

So the recommended solution? :scratch:

Perhaps one of them can truly prove what a wise and righteous Negro they truly are...

...by not responding to the other and letting this never ending shit go away. :lol: :lol: :lol: :tape:

I acknowledge that I can see how our exchanges have become irritating but welcome to the club! There are a lot of back-and-forths between many posters, including some who have posted on this thread, that are equally annoying but it's no one's place to tell them to stop.

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:17 PM
My bone of contention is that No Name Face does not respect black people. He has frequently-- unbeknownst to him because he's is that naive-- said things that slights our community, often implying that if we didn't act so "difficult" then we'd have a more harmonious relationship with the white race.



i've never said that...or implied it in the least. if that what you took from me essentially saying blacks have to make their own change, then that's your fault.

ok and i'm done.
don't put words in my mouth though, aqua. :yeah:

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:18 PM
This is not referring to your posts whatsoever but I will say I respect you in the sense that you are sticking to your guns and saying what you have to say no matter what some people on this board say about it.

I appreciate the sentiment especially considering that I know that you have absolutely nothing to gain from telling me that.

I wish everyone stuck to their guns and said what's REALLY on their minds without worrying if their opinion is popular or not.

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:20 PM
i've never said that...or implied it in the least. if that what you took from me essentially saying blacks have to make their own change, then that's your fault.

ok and i'm done.
don't put words in my mouth though, aqua. :yeah:

Subtext, No Name Face, subtext.

G1Player2
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:22 PM
I appreciate the sentiment especially considering that I know that you have absolutely nothing to gain from telling me that.

I wish everyone stuck to their guns and said what's REALLY on their minds without worrying if their opinion is popular or not.

Not gonna happen. I think people are just too afraid to russle the feathers of their message board friendships :shrug:

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:22 PM
Subtext, No Name Face, subtext.

aqua, are you hot? really now, i wanna know if you're a MILF.

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:23 PM
Not gonna happen. I think people are just too afraid to russle the feathers of their message board friendships :shrug:

yeah right. most people say what's on their mind regardless of friendships. if they're really 'message board' friends then they'll respect the other's opinion, even if it's contradictory to their beliefs.

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:24 PM
aqua, are you hot? really now, i wanna know if you're a MILF.
what's that ? :p

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:25 PM
what's that ? :p

mom i'd like (to) fuck ;)

G1Player2
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:25 PM
Well, even if they aren't friends, IMO, some people do watch what they say to "get in where they fit in."

Not saying that I agree with Aqua or disagree with her, just that i respect the fact that she doesn't fall into this category at all.

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:27 PM
mom i'd like (to) fuck ;)
damn... I had no idea :lol:

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:30 PM
Not gonna happen. I think people are just too afraid to russle the feathers of their message board friendships :shrug:

I don't understand why...unless you're planning to meet them in person but why would that make a difference? Message board reputation is important to some of the people here and that's their business. I'm sure these posters with many board friends on many occasions VEHEMENTLY oppose the opinions of their friends but have to remain silent or take a less spirited public stance for fear of severing ties or having their reputation smeared. People have their priorities, I suppose.

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:30 PM
Well, even if they aren't friends, IMO, some people do watch what they say to "get in where they fit in."

who does this? i think your concept of board cliques is highly overrated.
not all the 'black posters' stick together, which is evidenced more often than you'd know.


Not saying that I agree with Aqua or disagree with her, just that i respect the fact that she doesn't fall into this category at all.

dude, you're so far up her ass you can't even see straight. you know you agree with everything she says about me with your "oooh aqua you so funny, but don't kick him while he's down" bullshit.

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:31 PM
damn... I had no idea :lol:

you should watch american pie ;)
it's not a great movie, but it incorporates the concept of MILFing... ;)

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:33 PM
aqua, are you hot? really now, i wanna know if you're a MILF.

You wouldn't be interested. I don't have a penis.

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:33 PM
you should watch american pie ;)
it's not a great movie, but it incorporates the concept of MILFing... ;)
yes, I never watched it... there are many movies I have to rent :help::o

Stamp Paid
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:36 PM
Dennis! :banghead:

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:37 PM
yeah right. most people say what's on their mind regardless of friendships. if they're really 'message board' friends then they'll respect the other's opinion, even if it's contradictory to their beliefs.

So they just submit in order the salvage the messageboard friendship?

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:38 PM
Well, even if they aren't friends, IMO, some people do watch what they say to "get in where they fit in."

True and very evident in Non-Tennis.

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:38 PM
You wouldn't be interested. I don't have a penis.

:lol:
another low blow. i was trying to lighten the situation but noooo...
ha, i only like one penis. and that's my own. you however seem to have a fixation with 'outing' a straight guy, so maybe you have some issues with it. :shrug:

tell me aqua, did your man cheat on you with another man? cuz i wouldn't do that if you were my girl. :hug:

No Name Face
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:39 PM
Dennis! :banghead:

ok, ok...i'm really hardheaded...i gotta stop...i'm gonna leave the thread :tape: :tape:

Black Mamba.
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:40 PM
This post got all kinds of grimey in a hurry, but I do agree that some folks do hold back what they say on the Internet. I think in general people tend to take these message boards a little too serious and catch feelings a little too often.

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:43 PM
:lol:
another low blow. i was trying to lighten the situation but noooo...
ha, i only like one penis. and that's my own. you however seem to have a fixation with 'outing' a straight guy, so maybe you have some issues with it. :shrug:

Again, subtext. Straight men don't "play" the way you "play" on this board.

tell me aqua, did your man cheat on you with another man? cuz i wouldn't do that if you were my girl. :hug:

Actually, I left him; he was too emotionally crippled. Nearly 4 years divorced and I've never looked back. Sorry to disappoint you, though.

Aquanetta
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:49 PM
This post got all kinds of grimey in a hurry, but I do agree that some folks do hold back what they say on the Internet. I think in general people tend to take these message boards a little too serious and catch feelings a little too often.

That was the root of an argument I had with this guy who had 10,000+ posts. He didn't know a particular poster based on that poster's screen name AND immediately dismissed that poster as a "nobody" just because he hadn't heard of him. It's so ridiculous that some people actually think they have "seniority" on this board, as if to suggest that posting here is a monumental achievement.

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:55 PM
Dennis! :banghead:
I second that !

Stamp Paid
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:56 PM
ok, ok...i'm really hardheaded...i gotta stop...i'm gonna leave the thread :tape: :tape:

yes you are. Thats one black trait that can't nobody deny that you got. :tape:

hablo
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:58 PM
yes you are. Thats one black trait that can't nobody deny that you got. :tape:
:haha:

Knizzle
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:02 PM
:lol: @ what this thread has become.

I'm saying, it never fails. NEVAR!!!! :lol:

SJW
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:43 PM
death@ kiwifan's post.
just....death.

brickhousesupporter
Mar 23rd, 2006, 09:15 PM
Yall had me read through 8 pages of bullshit......Someone should rename the thread and say start at page 9. I mean really that is where it got interesting. :fiery: :rolleyes:

Knizzle you forgot the ghetto girl call ahahah. You ain't got to lie Craig.ahahah.

Veritas
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:01 PM
Why are Asians often ignored in discussions of race?

Lack of English is the first thing that comes to mind.

Plus, like I said before, Asians are very conservative. Many Asian cultures aren't very open or multicultural - that's why you rarely see Asians hang around with other groups.

I mean, people criticise Middle Eastern culture because it's almost the direct opposite of its Western counterpart, but if people look closely enough at the Asian one as well, they'd realise it's just as, if not more, different as well.

And in my experience, Asians often seem uncomfortable talking about race, so much so, they won’t speak up when they are being discriminated.

Thoughts?

:lol:

Believe me, that's very far from the truth. Asians love talking about race. That's why they put so much emphasis on history to determine what bloodline their ancestors came from.

If you speak to an everyday Korean or a Chinese (let alone their nationalists), they would spend almost every second of the conversation lecturing you why their culture is superior to everyone else's :lol:

For example, most Koreans love to go on about how they were responsible for today's modern Japanese culture. They even go as far as saying that their past kingdoms had conquered China and had a major role in shaping European culture :lol: Of course, it wouldn't take you long to realise that most of what they have to say in relation to race and culture is either delusional or just pure bullshit :lol:

Things like AzN pride, ricers, Chinatown and Asian market-areas are small things to consider, but they're visible examples just how important race is to them. If it weren't, then there wouldn't be a need for Asian places.

And they do "speak up" when they've been at the wrong end of the stick. Remember the controversy with a radio broadcaster during the tsunami crisis? It's just that for the most part, Asians would rather make a big deal out of things in their own language. For most of them, even second generation overseas Asians, English is their second language.

What is it about the different Asian cultures that makes them want to keep these things discreet?

Like I said above, Asian culture is very distinct. We're talking about a culture that's had its roots in ancient Chinese culture tens of thousands of years B.C. (or B.C.E.).

The thing is, Asian culture isn't open. It lacks multiculturalism. That's why interracialism is a huge taboo amongst them. And it isn't very modern when you think about it. Women are still considered second class citizens (although it's changed, and still continuing to change), etc., etc.

It's all about old-fashioned Confucianism. I don't have time to describe all the points that Confucious made, but if you read about his philosophies, it'll make it clearer what the mindset of Asian cultures (generally) today still is.

Also,you cite white guys—what if these Asian girls married Black, Hispanic or Middle Eastern guys? Will the “social and family problems” be equal to the problems that arise when they marry white guys?

White-Asian girl combinations (not Asian guys) are the most common one. It's rare to see an Asian girl date another race, so I don't know exactly what'll happen when that does happen.

Anyway, I'd assume it'll be the same as when an Asian girl goes off with a white guy - taboo, social stigma, and plenty of "concern" (i.e. whinging) from her family.

Thank you!! Very enlightening. I’m so glad you posted on this thread.

You're welcome :)

G1Player2
Mar 24th, 2006, 09:07 AM
I don't understand why...unless you're planning to meet them in person but why would that make a difference? Message board reputation is important to some of the people here and that's their business. I'm sure these posters with many board friends on many occasions VEHEMENTLY oppose the opinions of their friends but have to remain silent or take a less spirited public stance for fear of severing ties or having their reputation smeared. People have their priorities, I suppose.

I agree with everything you said in this post. I REALLY believe that some people who post here genuinely feel they have personal privilege over others and their condescending nature is nauseating. I admit, that I have been posting MUCH more than usual but if wtaworld crashed and never came back I wouldn't lose any sleep. I can't say the same for others.

G1Player2
Mar 24th, 2006, 09:11 AM
True and very evident in Non-Tennis.

Well you don't see the same cliquish, condescending, cult behavior over over in General Messages. Well, at least not as much as non-tennis. I think that is mainly because of the fact that most people are ALOT less negotiating and MUCH more passionate when it comes to discussing their favorite players and discussions there are limited unlike in Non-tennis

G1Player2
Mar 24th, 2006, 09:16 AM
This post got all kinds of grimey in a hurry, but I do agree that some folks do hold back what they say on the Internet. I think in general people tend to take these message boards a little too serious and catch feelings a little too often.

They definitely hold back what they say. I mean you can say you hate a poster and dislike them as a person and all of a sudden you have a change of heart and seek amends with them again. When everything is "cool," you are walking on eggshells with said poster and watching what you say because you think they have some superiority on this board and not getting along with them makes you look bad. I've seen it and it is :lol: as hell.

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:52 PM
I agree with everything you said in this post. I REALLY believe that some people who post here genuinely feel they have personal privilege over others and their condescending nature is nauseating. I admit, that I have been posting MUCH more than usual but if wtaworld crashed and never came back I wouldn't lose any sleep. I can't say the same for others.

Well, the root of that line of thinking on this board, or any other board for that matter, is that some people feel the need to belong to some sort of majority or contingent. Once they've achieved that, they often are at a loss when particular threads become "popular" and they aren't a part of it. So...what they end up doing is questioning the merit of the thread, projecting their insecurity (or feeling of exclusion) onto everyone else.

Ultimately, posters can do what they want. I sometimes wonder, though, whether it's ever a difficult decision for some when given the choice to post on the board or spend the day speaking to people face to face.

ampers&
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:53 PM
ROTFLMFAO at Wendy's title change. :spit:

Black Mamba.
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:55 PM
If we really want to talk about race there is an interesting discussion going on in the Condi Coon thread if you want to check it out.

Aquanetta
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:57 PM
They definitely hold back what they say. I mean you can say you hate a poster and dislike them as a person and all of a sudden you have a change of heart and seek amends with them again.

Well, it is human nature to forgive and/or make amends. The sincerity of these actions I'll admit can be questionable at times.

When everything is "cool," you are walking on eggshells with said poster and watching what you say because you think they have some superiority on this board and not getting along with them makes you look bad.

So true but it's nothing exclusive to WTAWorld. In the online domain, a lot of people want to be "somebody". Foolish.