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CJ07
Mar 20th, 2006, 05:18 AM
I was just reading a thread about Ivanovic, and I realized. Gee, this current generation is awfully weak.

Or is it? From the previous generation we had so so so many champions spring up. Some took longer than others (Henin, Mauresmo) while others did well right away (Hingis, Serena)/

I Sharapova going to be the Tracy Austin of this generation? Or will the Kirilenko's, Ivanovic's have Myskina likek improvements?

Is this 18-20 generation weak?

vogus
Mar 20th, 2006, 05:43 AM
it's weak in the sense that it breaks the pattern of each generation of players being better than the one before. There is simply a huge void in top tennis talent in the birth years 1985-1988. Sharapova basically has those four years all to herself.

**Jelica**
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:21 AM
I think the previous generation does seem to have been stronger, because if you think about it, the likes of Kim and Justinie, even Mauresmo were netting Slam finals by this point... Moreover, you has others like Dokic who were very strong and consistant. I can't see either Ivanovic, Vaidisova or any of the others making a Slam final this year because they don't have the consistancy to win 6 matches against these really mentally tough players like Henin, Maria, Davenport, Kim...

Even if you think about it, Jelena Dokic was really really consistant by the age of 18 or so, even if she didn't achieve the same degree of success. She was consistantly doing well in Tier Is, not alot of losses to lower ranked players, usually good Slam appearances... On the other hand, the teenagers of 5 years ago did definitely benefit from the fact that there was not such a strong older generation as there is now.

hingis-seles
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:28 AM
I think the previous generation does seem to have been stronger, because if you think about it, the likes of Kim and Justinie, even Mauresmo were netting Slam finals by this point... Moreover, you has others like Dokic who were very strong and consistant. I can't see either Ivanovic, Vaidisova or any of the others making a Slam final this year because they don't have the consistancy to win 6 matches against these really mentally tough players like Henin, Maria, Davenport, Kim...

Even if you think about it, Jelena Dokic was really really consistant by the age of 18 or so, even if she didn't achieve the same degree of success. She was consistantly doing well in Tier Is, not alot of losses to lower ranked players, usually good Slam appearances... On the other hand, the teenagers of 5 years ago did definitely benefit from the fact that there was not such a strong older generation as there is now.

You're kidding right? Graf, Seles, Sanchez-Vicario, Novotna, Martinez, etc were more than holding their own. Look at 1998, when all the hype was on the teenagers (Hingis, Kournikova, Williamses) but the old guard won 3 of the 4 majors, with Hingis' win in Australia being the lone teenage slam. The old guard of the previous generation was much more accomplished and stronger than anything this generation's old guard has to offer.

TeaMMashA
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:34 AM
I think Maria S is strides ahead f the rest of the generation maybe its because shes so good, shes been very consistent in tournaments like Semis at Grand Slams with the exception of Quarter at RG but still good for her not being a great player on clay, and the stat of 25 Consecutive Quarters or Further and having already claimed a Wimbledon Title, 2 Tier 1's, YEC And World Number 1 ranking shes definatly strides ahead. Unfortunatly i dont see players like Ana or Makiri being great players like JHH and Clijsters which is a shame.

tennisrox
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:42 AM
You're kidding right? Graf, Seles, Sanchez-Vicario, Novotna, Martinez, etc were more than holding their own. Look at 1998, when all the hype was on the teenagers (Hingis, Kournikova, Williamses) but the old guard won 3 of the 4 majors, with Hingis' win in Australia being the lone teenage slam. The old guard of the previous generation was much more accomplished and stronger than anything this generation's old guard has to offer.

Couldn't agree more.

PLP
Mar 20th, 2006, 11:57 AM
You're kidding right? Graf, Seles, Sanchez-Vicario, Novotna, Martinez, etc were more than holding their own. Look at 1998, when all the hype was on the teenagers (Hingis, Kournikova, Williamses) but the old guard won 3 of the 4 majors, with Hingis' win in Australia being the lone teenage slam. The old guard of the previous generation was much more accomplished and stronger than anything this generation's old guard has to offer.

I think it is a good point that the teenagers that are coming up aren't as accomplished as the "veterans" when they were younger, some of whom aren't even mid-tewnties yet: Jutine, Kim, Venus, Serena, Martina, Amelie, Mary, and Lindsay...There are quite a lot of them and it is hard to imagine any of the current teenagers winning a slam, having to beat a bulk of these players (Masha obviously, but she has already done it)
So I don't think you can say the 'old-guard' was more accomplished, though certainly not less...

tennisIlove09
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:11 PM
I think the difference is ... in the past champions have been great quickly. Evert, Austin, to Seles, Graf to Hingis, Venus, Serena ... they were winning everything from an early age or at least showed promise. Right now the only "youngster" that is winning early is Sharapova.

Of course you have your late bloomers like Navratilova, Davenport & Capriati...but for the most part, it seems like you start early in tennis.

CJ07
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:03 PM
I think the difference is ... in the past champions have been great quickly. Evert, Austin, to Seles, Graf to Hingis, Venus, Serena ... they were winning everything from an early age or at least showed promise. Right now the only "youngster" that is winning early is Sharapova.

Of course you have your late bloomers like Navratilova, Davenport & Capriati...but for the most part, it seems like you start early in tennis.
which makes me wonder if sharapova is going to have 5 years or so to herself

tennisjay
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:13 PM
I think the previous generation was just too good. I can remember when Hingis, Venus, Serena, and Anna K. came on the scene there was lots of hype surrounding them and it was deserved, but the new crop of young players are just not wroth the hype.