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msharafan
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:15 PM
maria has obviously made huge improvements to her game, and its now that theyre all coming together and starting to shine threw. this week her back hand was on fire aswell as her forehand, her footwork was fab, and so was her movement and defense. but what impressed me most was her patience especially against hingis, maria didnt try to win the points too early and in a result she hardly made any ue. she moved hingis around the court well and turned offense into attack with ferocious cross court back hands and forehands. she stepped up into the court a lot, which also impressed me, and she really is starting to move forward more. all of this is probably coming together after maria now has finally stopped growing and has adjusted her body, and her speed around the court can now only improve.


also i think its funny how all of a sudden since losing to hingis in tokyo she has started to play so much better. i think hingis gave maria a wake up call when looking at maria herselves own tactics in matches. maria probably thought after that match why did i lose, when i know i have the weapons to beat her. well maria for sure did improve and even now i think has more of a plan B to be more patient to step up more, or be more defensive. all this can only mean good things for miss sharapova, and talk of future dominence seems a lot more obvious and clearer if she continues to improve(im sure she will). also with winning indian wells she has gained a lot of confidence, and i for one thinks she deserved it 100%!

but guys whay has impressed you most in this tournie about maria?

fonsito
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:17 PM
i think in a year she's gonna pull a serena and dominate the tour

Il Primo!
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:18 PM
First of all I'm very impressed by the way she moves. She runs and defends extremly well now. Moreover she's getting more and more consistent in baseline and come to the net :yeah:

Dougal Maguire
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:20 PM
Her gruntings getting LOUDER!:D She's improved that a lot.

msharafan
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:24 PM
its also worth mentioning that its only a matter of time now before she beats justine kim and mauresmo, and she doesnt have much problems with anyone else who is always on the tour(although did struggle against venus i dont think she would as much now)

Krystell
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:24 PM
It's hard to just pick one thing, she's improved in several areas, foot speed, shot selection, transition to net game, comfort at net, patience in rallies, almost everything.

bellascarlett
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:35 PM
Her gruntings getting LOUDER!:D She's improved that a lot.

It's funny but they just reaired the second set of the IW final today and I swear I thought Elena's grunts sounded louder. :lol: I know Elena grunts while Maria screams, but for some reason, whatever noise Elena made sounded louder than Maria's noises. :scratch: It could be that Maria was not giving it her all in her grunting/screaming as she didn't really have to work and fight that hard to win. It was certainly not the most intense of matches.

Anyway, in terms of the thread question, I am just impressed with the seeming desire by Maria to improve her game all around. Her IW run proved how much hard work she has been putting in in order to step up her game. She's moving in a lot more and she's defending better and better. In her match against Martina, her defense in some of the rallies surprised me. She hit shots from defensive positions I didn't expect her to make. She's willing to learn and grow as a player. This is good news from a fan's perspective and a good step in the right direction for Maria if she wants to really become a great tennis champion. :)

pcrtennis
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:37 PM
nothing. she didn't have to play anyone in the top 5. and only one in the top ten.

Dougal Maguire
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:38 PM
It's funny but they just reaired the second set of the IW final today and I swear I thought Elena's grunts sounded louder. :lol: I know Elena grunts while Maria screams, but for some reason, whatever noise Elena made sounded louder than Maria's noises. :scratch: It could be that Maria was not giving it her all in her grunting/screaming as she didn't really have to work and fight that hard to win. It was certainly not the most intense of matches.

Anyway, in terms of the thread question, I am just impressed with the seeming desire by Maria to improve her game all around. Her IW run proved how much hard work she has been putting in in order to step up her game. She's moving in a lot more and she's defending better and better. In her match against Martina, her defense in some of the rallies surprised me. She hit shots from defensive positions I didn't expect her to make. She's willing to learn and grow as a player. This is good news from a fan's perspective and a good step in the right direction for Maria if she wants to really become a great tennis champion. :)

That’s the girl with the blond hair who shouldn’t wear shorts because they make her thighs look big?

fonsito
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:39 PM
nothing. she didn't have to play anyone in the top 5. and only one in the top ten.


top 5 like the people in your sig? :lol:

msharafan
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:42 PM
'nothing. she didn't have to play anyone in the top 5. and only one in the top ten.'
there you go again pcr tennis, i just digged up a thread on you were you said there are even players better than maria in this delapedated draw, and that was on the question could maria win indian wells! so obviously you are a maria hater, and obviously you didnt watch any of her matches cause she has improved in nearly all the things i put up for an option in the poll. once again a jealous maria fan!

msharafan
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:44 PM
sorry a jealous maria hater *oops*

pcrtennis
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:26 PM
top 5 like the people in your sig? :lol:

None of the people in my thread are top ten ;) :)

pcrtennis
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:27 PM
'nothing. she didn't have to play anyone in the top 5. and only one in the top ten.'
there you go again pcr tennis, i just digged up a thread on you were you said there are even players better than maria in this delapedated draw, and that was on the question could maria win indian wells! so obviously you are a maria hater, and obviously you didnt watch any of her matches cause she has improved in nearly all the things i put up for an option in the poll. once again a jealous maria fan!


No, she's the same as she has been...no noticeble improvement...I watched her matches.

And I stand by my statement that there were better players in this draw than SHarapova. ;) :p

blumaroo
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:33 PM
Her patience in points and her defense were better. SHe's definitely smarter.

Brooklyn90
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:36 PM
i think in a year she's gonna pull a serena and dominate the tour
:lol: :lol: In the words of John Mcenroe you cannot be serious!!! Do u honestly think she can win the french? She doesn't even have good records against Justine Mauresmo and Kim, Mauresmo and Kim didn't even play IW. Neither did the William Sisters.

mashafan25
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:36 PM
I liked that she was mentally tough and her net play, volleys was better than earlier: Yeah, and her concentration point after point, and her defence is also better than earlier. Good luck Masha in Miami, you can win it! :)

mashafan25
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:39 PM
No, she's the same as she has been...no noticeble improvement...I watched her matches.

And I stand by my statement that there were better players in this draw than SHarapova. ;) :p
Really? :eek: Just pick a name from your top 10 and Masha will beat her :lol:

crazyroberto6767
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:44 PM
It was more mental for her this week IMO. She concentrated well, and focused on the task at hand. She played smarter than she has in the past. It's a good thing she's trying to add variety, but sometimes she uses shots at the complete wrong time. She played within her own game and handled the wind well. IMO she came to net a few more times than I think she should have actually, as her volleys failed her at times. When she can hit a swing volley or a hard drive volley for a winner she's fine, but I don't see her winning many points when she has to hit 2 or more volleys.

Chrissie-fan
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:45 PM
Her footwork has improved A LOT. And I was impressed by her patience against Hingis, always keeping up the pressure, yet waiting for the right ball to attempt to hit the winner. I think that in her semi-final against Martina she played the PERFECT match for a player of her type. Brilliant performance because Hingis too played quite good in my opinion.

meyerpl
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:49 PM
It's hard to just pick one thing, she's improved in several areas, foot speed, shot selection, transition to net game, comfort at net, patience in rallies, almost everything.
True. I'm not too happy about it, but give credit where credit is due. Maria has improved several aspects of her game and will be a force to be contended with for some time. Anyone who thinks otherwise is reacting emotionally rather than rationally.

xin_hui
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:56 PM
Really? :eek: Just pick a name from your top 10 and Masha will beat her :lol:

he/she wasnt talking about his/her favourite players!

pcrtennis
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:13 AM
Really? :eek: Just pick a name from your top 10 and Masha will beat her :lol:


Too stupid to respond to :)

Sharapova's_Boy
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:17 AM
And I stand by my statement that there were better players in this draw than SHarapova. ;) :p

And yet Maria still came out with the title. :p

cheo23
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:20 AM
IN my opinion...she just played Very Well on the IMPORTANT POINTS

like she was converting her Break point chances...

she was good overall...I wouldn't say, she has IMPROVED ALOT

go watch the final again...she was clearly struggling running down those dropshots:rolleyes: & she still can't VOLLEY CORRECTLY...she looks so uncomfortable at net...her technique is TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!! :o

Keep working on u're MOVEMENT & VOLLEY BETTER PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE LOVE U!!!!:hearts:

GOOD LUCK IN MIAMI!!!!!!!!!! :D

Reuchlin
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:26 AM
How much can anyone improve in the couple weeks after the Aussie Open?
After her loss to Justine everyone was really to count her out...

IceHock
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:48 AM
i really dont think she improved at all it was just a matter of her playing like she used too.she showed that here all week.

bellascarlett
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:53 AM
True. I'm not too happy about it, but give credit where credit is due. Maria has improved several aspects of her game and will be a force to be contended with for some time. Anyone who thinks otherwise is reacting emotionally rather than rationally.

:lol: not happy? at least you are honest.

morningglory
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:32 AM
her offensive game now includes placement as now as power

mashafan25
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:47 AM
Please forgive me Pcrtennis for my stupid answer.I was unthinking or irresponsible( I don't know which is the right expression in english ) When I want to delete this stupid post, it was too late. I'm so sorry!

Havok
Mar 20th, 2006, 02:21 AM
I really didn't see any improvements in Maria's game either :shrug:.

Dan23
Mar 20th, 2006, 03:32 AM
IN my opinion...she just played Very Well on the IMPORTANT POINTS

like she was converting her Break point chances...

she was good overall...I wouldn't say, she has IMPROVED ALOT

go watch the final again...she was clearly struggling running down those dropshots:rolleyes: & she still can't VOLLEY CORRECTLY...she looks so uncomfortable at net...her technique is TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!! :o

Keep working on u're MOVEMENT & VOLLEY BETTER PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE LOVE U!!!!:hearts:

GOOD LUCK IN MIAMI!!!!!!!!!! :D
oh hi again cheo23 :wavey:...i agree with things you post usually but not on the movement issue ;)
a couple of the drop shots in that match were very good and were wind assisted and Maria did well to even get near them. Lately drop shots have had to be very good to work against her. Its one area that she has undoubtably improved.
also did you notice the outcome of the backhand battle in the SF vs Martina?

Blonde_Ambition7
Mar 20th, 2006, 03:36 AM
all around i was impressed.
but she wasn't as slow as i remember her being.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 20th, 2006, 03:50 AM
5% Tennis
+ 95% yankee mentallity
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An efecttive tennis player, winner but brightness

RJWCapriati
Mar 20th, 2006, 03:51 AM
Patience

franny
Mar 20th, 2006, 04:43 AM
It's been said before. She needs to play a top 5 player first. Her tests will come against Mauresmo, Henin, and Clijsters. I'm sure that next week, she'll play at least one of them and then we can see where she really is. I definitely agree that she looked great this week. I'm so excited about her improvements, but we'll see if they really are that drastic next week. She had a lot of trouble getting up to drop shots still against Dementieva even. We'll see next week.

tennisjunky
Mar 20th, 2006, 04:45 AM
overall there is a lot of maturity in her game. we forget how young she is and time will only make her better. with her focus and intensity she will accomplish so much. if serena applied herself in the same way, serena would have graf like numbers. but because thats not her focus i think maria will end of acheiving more than any of her current peers.

msharafan
Mar 20th, 2006, 06:46 AM
No, she's the same as she has been...no noticeble improvement...I watched her matches.

And I stand by my statement that there were better players in this draw than SHarapova

ok pcrtennis thats your opininion but we all know youre a maria hater, so please dont bother with him. if you cant see maria has improved you obviously havent been watching her even the commentaters were amazed by her fast improvment, but then again none of your players in your sig will ever stand a chance against maria especially since shes improving so much, its obviously jealousy down to a tee.

TeaMMashA
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:17 AM
Im really excited about the way she plays now! shes defiantly got a bright future, shes improved her speed, coming to the bet shes getting better angles on her forehand and backhand and their more consistent, so overall im a very proud fan! :)

Prizeidiot
Mar 20th, 2006, 10:34 AM
Coming from someone who really doesn't like Maria, she's improved her game a lot.

I'd go so far as to say she's a considerably better player now than what she was when she won Wimbledon. Back then she was a raw player, really underdeveloped, but she caught everyone by surprise with her aggression and determination. It also helped that she ran white hot that week.

I think she's more consistent than before, as in she doesn't make as much errors as she used to. She's still a poor volleyer and lacks the finesse of Hingis or Henin-Hardenne, but she's going to the net a lot, and it doesn't look like she's playing with a club. At the very least, players have to consider the possibility of her doing something different, even if she doesn't execute.

PLP
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:07 PM
Maria played really great stuff at IW. I was quite impressed with her patience against Martina, She didn't give Hingis an inch in the second set when it looked that was all Martina needed to get it to a third, which I thought also showed her mental strength, not wanting the match to start to get away from her. She ran better than I have seen her and even though she said her serve was terrible, it wasn't. She missed some first serves but her second serve was fantastic, it still kept Martina on the defense. The Elena match she just played so smartly in the wind, she pretty much dominated Dementieva, who can be such a danger, P

TonyP
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:25 PM
I always thought Maria was good, but still plays a somewhat one dimensional game. She showed some good tactical sense against Martina this time, but still needs to improve other aspects of her game.

What does NOT need improvement is her mentla toughness. She is one tough cookie who really focuses well and really wants to win.

But the idea that she will soon be dominant is not yet supported by the facts. I don't think there is going to be a dominant player on the WTA tour for some time to come, unless somebody comes along who we have not yet seen.

Indian Wells was Maria's first title since before Wimbledon. She has experienced a fairly long dry spell. And remember, she has not gotten back to a slam final since Wimbledon 2004. So six slams have gone by since her big triumph. That doesn't mean she will not turn in a Pete Sampras kind of career and start winning slams left and right. It could happen, but as happy a win as she had at Indian Wells --and I think she thoroughly deserved the title -- she did not have to play anyone in the top ten except Dementieva, who remains wildly inconsistant. In fact, in many ways, I think Maria's victory over Hingis was more significant, because if nothing else, Hingis played her a lot tougher than Elena did.

So, Maria has a lot more to prove before you can call her a dominant player.

sunset
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:28 PM
All around improvement. I'm kind of suprised she didn't take out Justine.

serenafan08
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:40 PM
I think Maria's tactics are the biggest improvement. She really showed that she can move the ball around the court a little bit and wait for the right shots - whereas it used to be she'd blast every ball for the corners everytime. I still want to see her play against the better players - like Lindsay, Venus, Amelie, Justine and Kim before I make a complete judgment. I'm interested to see how these improvements will help her in the big matches. That aside, I thought she played great at IW.

cheo23
Mar 20th, 2006, 02:07 PM
oh hi again cheo23 :wavey:...i agree with things you post usually but not on the movement issue ;)
a couple of the drop shots in that match were very good and were wind assisted and Maria did well to even get near them. Lately drop shots have had to be very good to work against her. Its one area that she has undoubtably improved.
also did you notice the outcome of the backhand battle in the SF vs Martina?
Hey Dan23!!!!:wavey:

I forgot to mention....she's improved w/ Playing when its WINDY!!!!!!

yes, she got to some drop shots but her shots in returning those drop shots aren't good at all...she needs to WORK HARDER in that department!!!!

:lol: yes I noticed Miss Maria Sharapova won the backhand battles w/ Martina Hingis....I was DEFINETLY impressed w/ her in that match...I have these 2 matches on a DVD Disc...if someone can send me a PRIVATE MESSAGE...explaining how to upload it on the computer , so other people can REWATCH these BEAUTIFUL WINS by Miss Maria Sharapova...I would Appreciate it!!!!!!!!! :D

bellascarlett
Mar 20th, 2006, 02:23 PM
I still want to see her play against the better players - like Lindsay, Venus, Amelie, Justine and Kim before I make a complete judgment. I'm interested to see how these improvements will help her in the big matches. That aside, I thought she played great at IW.

Well she already beat Davenport in the Dubai semis weeks ago which increased her lead in their H2H to 4-1. I would assume Maria would win their battles most of the time. She definitely has the upper hand in that match-up.

msharafan
Mar 20th, 2006, 04:06 PM
i think she has really tried to make an improvement and i personally as a maria fan thinks that the worst thing that ever happened to maria was win wimby, she thought she could beat everyone for a while (not really her fault the press had her labeled for dominence), and maria went along with that for a while(first half of the year) then when she didnt defend her wimby title and got shocked by venus she knew she had to improve very fast, and she has been working so hard but like she said her injury kept putting her back, but now shes nearly over the injury all the hard work is starting to pay off and if she continues playing the way she did at iw it will only be a matter of time before she wins another slam.

goldenlox
Mar 20th, 2006, 04:21 PM
Improving isn't a straight line, like x=y.
Sveta might do lousy this year, and win a major next year.

Maria is doing well, and at her level, she'll be judged on winning majors, and weeks spent at #1.

goldenlox
Mar 20th, 2006, 04:38 PM
And remember the actual dynamics. Lena had a very tough 3 set semi, and a tough 3 setter before that with Ivanovic.
Lena was much fresher in Tokyo, and Maria was much fresher in California.

Those dynamics often create the results, more than ability levels.

cheo23
Mar 20th, 2006, 04:49 PM
And remember the actual dynamics. Lena had a very tough 3 set semi, and a tough 3 setter before that with Ivanovic.
Lena was much fresher in Tokyo, and Maria was much fresher in California.

Those dynamics often create the results, more than ability levels.
:scratch: so we can say honestly that Miss Maria Sharapova would have won her match w/ SERENA @ the Australian Open because she had a tough 3 set match w/ Svetlana especially playing w/ the ROOF opened as opposed to SERENA's easily victory over a injured Mauresmo

by the way, I'm not buying the Elena Dementieva "TIRED" excuse for her lost to Miss Maria Sharapova.....she was running down shots & playing well...just alot of wild misses on returns & careless UEs...which cost her the match

bellascarlett
Mar 20th, 2006, 04:50 PM
And remember the actual dynamics. Lena had a very tough 3 set semi, and a tough 3 setter before that with Ivanovic.
Lena was much fresher in Tokyo, and Maria was much fresher in California.


Maria being much fresher in California was a result of her much better play all throughout the tournament - being in control of her matches most of the time and never dropping a single set.

Dougal Maguire
Mar 20th, 2006, 07:04 PM
he/she wasnt talking about his/her favourite players!
I think you've a secret crush on Maria. ;) :)

Helen Lawson
Mar 20th, 2006, 07:58 PM
She's filling out nicely. She used to be flat chested with no ass-built like a little boy. But I noticed on TV this weekend, she's got some nice breast-development going on and a nice ass. She's starting to look like she has an hour-glass figure, that of a real woman. I saw the same thing with Dokic many years ago. Maria's face has also improved and become more distinctiive in the last few years.

Helen gives Maria's progress a 9 out of 10!