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AsGoodAsNew
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:32 AM
In their acceptance speaches Elena thanked Maria, she actually said thank you. But Maria didn't mention Elena at all, and it didn't look like an oversight. Maria didn't even look at Elena and at one point they were acres apart and Elena looked a little uncomfortable.

Is their a bit of bad blood between the two, and if so does anone know why? You can't beat a bit of off court rivalry to spice things up!

But Elena was very gracious in defeat.

gmak
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:39 AM
well, elena herself didn't look comfortable in her speech at all especially when she had to thank maria...

there's no love loss between them that's for sure...

but i don't care, i love them both :hug: :hearts:

ceiling_fan
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:44 AM
lol, i wish i could see htis

Dan23
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:55 AM
Its not very spectacular Ivy ;) most people wouldnt even pick up on anything
Theres no real history between them aside from past minor comments made about the Russian team situation. Theyve played 5 times since 2003 though.

Stephieva
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:04 AM
methinks they dun like each other but dun dislike each other either...
and I also think Lena doesn't care if Masha would thank her or not :lol:

Princess Sarah.
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:05 AM
all you maria haters like to read between the line
if u looked closer u'd see things were fine
i'm not really a fan but enough is enough
give maria a go and don't be so rough
You may not like her, if that is the case
turn of the tv and move to another place

WC6320
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:31 AM
yeh i agree princess sarah. she is not such a bad person or anything. she is a bit immature but she will grow out of it cause she is still young. just give her a chance. she is a fantastic tennis player and will be one of the greats of the game wen she retires i rekon. just focus on her tennis and give her a fair go.

Jakeev
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:36 AM
I think Elena has said that Maria is the best of the Russians out there. From what I understand anyway, besides Elena and Myskina, there are hardly many friendships even among the Russians.

So even though I don't expect Dementieva to come out and say she loves Maria, I do think she acknowledges Sharapova's talent.

gentzy
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:41 PM
Elena was as usual nice and modest whereas Maria ....I'm not going to say anything bad. :tape: ..but it's her choice if she wants to thank her or not....I think Lena doesn't even care about her...there were some talks for the Russian Fed Cup team and Lena expressed herself clear that she doesn't like Maria on the team :devil: ...so I guess friendship is out of the question :angel: ...anyway Lena can live without Maria, that's for sure :lol:

iPatty
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:46 PM
Elena was the nasty one at the net. Maria put her hand up to give Elena the 'buddy' handshake, which Elena kindly returned with a handshake in which she barely touched Maria's hand. It was funny stuff. :p

I was confused as to why Maria didn't say, "Elena had a great tournament, and should feel great about her week. She played a great match.". Elena congratulated Maria, why couldn't she return the favor?

flyingmachine
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:48 PM
Not suprise at all given what they said about each other in the past. :o

Viktymise
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:00 PM
I dont think lena likes her because she thinkes she isin't really Russian and lena is very patriotic. Also lena is nice and modest maria is a bit up her own ass simple as that

tenn_ace
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:12 PM
I was also a little bit dissapointed by Maria... I hope she just forgot and no thought was put into that as I love both players.


PS. I don't see Maria giving Elena any credit in her interview as well. Of course, I only saw parts of it in the news articles...

IF MARIA EVER WANTS TO PLAY ON RUSSIA'S FEDCUP TEAM, SHE HAS TO MAKE EFFORTS TO PATCH UP WITH THE REST OF RUSSIAN GIRLS. THIS WAS A LOST GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

hwanmig
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:29 PM
Maria should be thankful, Justine would have had the title if she won the semi.

Andy.
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:31 PM
I was also a little bit dissapointed by Maria... I hope she just forgot and no thought was put into that as I love both players.


PS. I don't see Maria giving Elena any credit in her interview as well. Of course, I only saw parts of it in the news articles...

IF MARIA EVER WANTS TO PLAY ON RUSSIA'S FEDCUP TEAM, SHE HAS TO MAKE EFFORTS TO PATCH UP WITH THE REST OF RUSSIAN GIRLS. THIS WAS A LOST GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

What does she need to patch up if anything they shouls be the ones trying to patch things up with her as they were the ones making the statements about her. She has never said anything negative about them.

xtooL
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:43 PM
Obviously you guys arent 18 ? ....Maria will grow out of it , shes young , a millionaire , worldwide known successful tennis player with a grandslam..that gives you a bitchy attitude even if your the nicest person in the world when your 18, shes probably a bit immature ..Im sure she'll grow up eventually

Elena's nice and very ladylike , she loses gracefully , I like her more after this match

WC6320
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:51 PM
Agreed xtooL

mc8114
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:53 PM
Obviously you guys arent 18 ? ....Maria will grow out of it , shes young , a millionaire , worldwide known successful tennis player with a grandslam..that gives you a bitchy attitude even if your the nicest person in the world when your 18, shes probably a bit immature ..Im sure she'll grow up eventually

Elena's nice and very ladylike , she loses gracefully , I like her more after this match

:worship:
Great comment, 100 % with you

tenn_ace
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:56 PM
What does she need to patch up if anything they shouls be the ones trying to patch things up with her as they were the ones making the statements about her. She has never said anything negative about them.

True, but they also not the ones who started fights, screaming in the stand, coaching, harassing Russian players. And although Masha didn't do it either, it's her dad who did. She, unfortunately, has to pay for his antics... so thats why it's up to her

bellascarlett
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:00 PM
Maria should be thankful, Justine would have had the title if she won the semi.

This coming from an Elena fan is loser talk...Anyway, Yeah Yeah Yeah...Blah Blah Blah... :o :p

itzhak
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:00 PM
calm down everybody! the handshake was OK, Lena is always very fast in the handshake and yesterday was not exeptional.
the whole relationship between Lena and Maria is not big Issue as Lena answerd yesterday-

"Q. How well do you get on with Maria?
ELENA DEMENTIEVA: I don't really know her, really"

that it, nothing more.

bellascarlett
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:09 PM
I dont think lena likes her because she thinkes she isin't really Russian and lena is very patriotic. Also lena is nice and modest maria is a bit up her own ass simple as that

On the ATP website, Elena has a video interview in which she was asked to look ahead to the final. She then says that she thinks it's first of all great to have two Russians in the final and that it should be an interesting match for both of them. Elena is indeed very patriotic and this comment is just one of among many that proves that she is. When she's talking about Russia in relation to the other countries in tennis, Elena definitely includes Maria in the Russian contingent and why wouldn't she? Maria is their best player at the moment.

morningglory
Mar 19th, 2006, 03:27 PM
maybe Maria just forgot? like YEC04 she admits in the press conference that she forgot but acknowledges it...?

Conservative
Mar 19th, 2006, 03:30 PM
Maria doesn't need to prove anything to people here, she could give a flying fuck what you guys think about her. She won, Elena lost. Get over it.

10nisfanofruz
Mar 19th, 2006, 04:43 PM
well, elena herself didn't look comfortable in her speech at all especially when she had to thank maria...

there's no love loss between them that's for sure...

but i don't care, i love them both :hug: :hearts:

That's exactly what i thought. ;)

Wsisters45
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:16 PM
I'm sure Maria was so happy that she won that she forgot. Happens all the time. I'm sure in the interview Maria said something nice about Elena.

the cat
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:17 PM
I too was dissapointed by Maria not congratulating Elena on a fine tournament. :( And I don't think it was an oversight on Maria's part. She's too shrewd and savvy to forget congratulating Elena a couple minutes after Elena congratulated her. It was a very strange situation for me as I'm a huge fan of both girls. But Masha does seem to lack something when it comes to decorum and civility. She didn't say anything nice to Serena after she beat Serena in the 2004 Wimbledon final. We over looked that because of her youth and the excitement of the moment. But it should not be over looked anymore. Maybe it's not a big deal. But Masha not taking 5 seconds to congratulate Elena on her fine tournament dissapointed me more than the poor quality of the final.

And tenn_ace, Russia does not need Sharapova to win the Fed Cup. Russia has plenty of girls hungry to play Fed Cup for Russia. But Maria Sharapova might not be one of them. And we need to accept the possibilty of that.

TeaMMashA
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:25 PM
Actually she did say some nice stuff to Serena at Wimbledon they kept showing Serena smiling after Marias comments about her liek congratulating her and when she said im sorry i beat you! :lol:

fonsito
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:27 PM
they dont care about eachother, so??

No Name Face
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:34 PM
maria has no class.
elena has class.

that is all.

fonsito
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:36 PM
maria has no class.
elena has class.

that is all.

At least Maria doesnt diss other tennis players in interviews :rolleyes:

Maria Croft
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:47 PM
OMG, just because she didn't say anything about Elena she's bitchy, this board is crazy :lol:

No Name Face
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:49 PM
OMG, just because she didn't say anything about Elena she's bitchy, this board is crazy :lol:

the issue is that she didn't say anything right after elena congratulated her.

the cat
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:52 PM
TeamMasha, Maria didn't congratulate Serena on making 3 straight Wimbledon finals. She sarcasically said she was sorry about beating Serena. And she only mentioned Serena in her 2004 Wimbledon Ladies championship victory speech because Sue Barker of the BBC brought up Serena to Maria while interviewing her on court after the final. Now I gave Maria a pass then because of the enormity of the moment in her career and life. Now she should be past that in 2006. She's been in enough finals to know to congratulate her opponent win or lose.

Maria Croft
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:53 PM
the issue is that she didn't say anything right after elena congratulated her.

so? Maria thanked a lot of people, she could have forgotten about Elena easily, it happened to her before when she won the YEC

goldenlox
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:57 PM
Dementieva said: ďI think it was very difficult to play today. I think Maria, she was able to handle the situation and play with the wind better today.

"I was mentally prepared. I wanted to play against her. I wanted to face her in Tokyo. I wanted to play her here. For me it's interesting. It's a great challenge for me to play against Maria. I feel I wasn't at my best today, and she was playing great.Ē

goldenlox
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:15 PM
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selesfan
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:21 PM
I am not a big Maria fan but I think she didn't congratulate Elena because she remembers all the comments Elena said about her in the past about her not being Russian. I don't like Maria's on court behavior but I must admit she seems to be nice off court. She gives very classy interviews and never makes snide remarks about her opponents. I am really starting to like her.:)

Lulu.
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:22 PM
Elena sounded like she was going to cry. But atleast she mentioned Maria in her speech. Maria is still very immature and she has some growing up to do thats all ;)

fonsito
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:24 PM
Elena sounded like she was going to cry. But atleast she mentioned Maria in her speech Maria is still very immature and she has some growing up to do thats all ;)


164 posts of trolling, congrats.

hablo
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:36 PM
calm down everybody! the handshake was OK, Lena is always very fast in the handshake and yesterday was not exeptional.
the whole relationship between Lena and Maria is not big Issue as Lena answerd yesterday-

"Q. How well do you get on with Maria?
ELENA DEMENTIEVA: I don't really know her, really"

that it, nothing more.
People seem to also forget that there is an age gap between Maria and Lena :shrug::lol:

DevilishAttitude
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:39 PM
maria has no class.
elena has class.

that is all.

:lol:

:rolleyes:

Maria might fist pump a little too often but at least unlike Elena hasn't made nasty comments about anyone. Elena has made comments about the Williams sisters, Maria, Anna, Mary, Sveta etc.

I don't understand the issue. Why does Maria have to thank Elena, why does Elena even have to thank Maria. You lot should calm the hell down :rolleyes:

Ryan
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:43 PM
:yawn: Maria won, who cares if she congratulated Elena? It would have been polite, but it's not important.

fonsito
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:44 PM
:lol:

:rolleyes:

Maria might fist pump a little too often but at least unlike Elena hasn't made nasty comments about anyone. Elena has made comments about the Williams sisters, Maria, Anna, Mary, Sveta etc.

I don't understand the issue. Why does Maria have to thank Elena, why does Elena even have to thank Maria. You lot should calm the hell down :rolleyes: :worship:

some people hate maria no matter what she does :o

jacobruiz
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:54 PM
http://mashafan.free.fr/galeriephoto/albums/tournois/2006/indian_wells/normal_maria-sharapova_fr_indianwells2006_114.jpg

Maria played a great tournament and had a great win, decisively beating Elena 6-1, 6-2. She did not (and never has) made any side or mean remarks about anyone.

Yet rather than give the girl a little credit or respect for her achievements some posters prefer to dig up or make up some petty crap to put her down.:lol:
I think this demonstrates more about these posters than Maria.

Congrats, Maria!:worship: Great tournament and better luck next time, Elena.:wavey:

jacobruiz
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:57 PM
:lol:

:rolleyes:

Maria might fist pump a little too often but at least unlike Elena hasn't made nasty comments about anyone. Elena has made comments about the Williams sisters, Maria, Anna, Mary, Sveta etc.

I don't understand the issue. Why does Maria have to thank Elena, why does Elena even have to thank Maria. You lot should calm the hell down :rolleyes:


:worship:

I like Elena but she's no angel in the commentary department.:lol:

brunof
Mar 19th, 2006, 07:11 PM
I think Maria tends to babble on. She was trying to make light of the conditions and no one laughed. But she had sweatpants so it's all good. :lol:

I just liked the part of the presentation when the guy said, "Maria, you can come up and accept your whale." :retard::aparty:

pancake
Mar 19th, 2006, 07:11 PM
Actually I think it is a little odd to congrats or thanks someone who loses to you even if he/she does so. But it's just my thought.

Dementirilenko
Mar 19th, 2006, 07:23 PM
In their acceptance speaches Elena thanked Maria, she actually said thank you. But Maria didn't mention Elena at all, and it didn't look like an oversight. Maria didn't even look at Elena and at one point they were acres apart and Elena looked a little uncomfortable.

Is their a bit of bad blood between the two, and if so does anone know why? You can't beat a bit of off court rivalry to spice things up!

But Elena was very gracious in defeat.

What I can tell you is that Elena does not like Maria that much, its the same with other russian compatriots like Myskina. Lena shows respect towards Maria but she doesn't like her!

goldenlox
Mar 19th, 2006, 07:32 PM
What I can tell you is that Elena does not like Maria that much, its the same with other russian compatriots like Myskina. Lena shows respect towards Maria but she doesn't like her!Actually, it's the other way around.
Lena and Nastya say things, and then forget they said them.

Sharapova is the one who might be holding a grudge.
But I don't believe she is. A lot of players just don't want friends near their level of play.
Because you wind up competing and it's hard to be friends.

itzhak
Mar 19th, 2006, 08:52 PM
Lena never said anything about Maria as non-Russian- this came from Svetlana and Marat Safin. she only said that Maria had many options to play for Russia in fed cup and she did not came...

goldenlox
Mar 19th, 2006, 08:56 PM
FROM THE ACURA CLASSIC IN CARLSBAD, CALIF. Ė The so-called real Russian will play the so-called Russian-American in the quarterfinals of $1.3 million Acura Classic on Friday and a tremendous amount of pride is on the line.

Roland Garroschampion Anastasia Myskina has never lost Wimbledon champion Maria Sharapova on court and as it stands, is also currently winning the battle for the hearts and minds of other Russian players.

The brunette Myskina is acknowledged leader of the deep Russian squad in the locker room while to some, the blonde Sharapova is little more than interloper when it comes to things Russian. French Open finalist Elena Dementieva said last week that Sharapova is "not really Russian" and on Thursday, the Moscow born and bred Myskina said Sharapovaís "mentality is American" and that she doesnít think Sharapova "has ever to been [back] to Russia."

Those comments didnít set well with the ferociously competitive teenager, who didnít exactly call for a Lear Jet to take her from Sochi to Florida when she was seven. Sharapovaís ambitious father, Yuri, sat with her in coach and upon landing took a public bus to the Bollettieri Academy so she could receive proper training.

"Weíve had totally different ways of growing up and developing our careers," Sharapova snarled. "Even though I train in America, Iím still Russian. Thatís where I come from. No one going is going to tell me where I'm from because I know where Iím from. Just because I made the decision to develop my tennis somewhere else -- I think I made the right decision."

With all that said, Myskina said that she would welcome Sharapova on the Russian Fed Cup team and that Maria speaks Russian "pretty well" for someone who has spent 10 off her 17 years in the US.

"Maria has lived in the United States and she's more comfortable in English that she is in Russian," Myskina said. "But if she wants to play Fed Cup next year, why not? We want to have al the good players, because itís easier to win matches.



Maria: 'No one going is going to tell me where I'm from because I know here Iím from'
"I donít feel American at all," she said. "I feel this is part of my job. I donít know where I would be living. I came to the United States because of my tennis. Maybe I would still be in Russia or maybe I would have wanted to live someone else. I moved here because of my tennis, not for anything else."

Dementinator
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:03 PM
what do expect? Maria lives on Planet Sharapova ,shes the only one that matters ,its all about her ,she is simply selfish ,not an unusual trait in this world it has to be said ,but her speeches never credit anyone with anything ,Serena made a great speech in WImb when Maria beat her ,Maria did not.. shes a great player ,but a stuck up self congratulatory person ,who dont give a flying F about anything other than her .... thank god I cant stand her ,but props to her tennis ,was damn good..

fonsito
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:31 PM
what do expect? Maria lives on Planet Sharapova ,shes the only one that matters ,its all about her ,she is simply selfish ,not an unusual trait in this world it has to be said ,but her speeches never credit anyone with anything ,Serena made a great speech in WImb when Maria beat her ,Maria did not.. shes a great player ,but a stuck up self congratulatory person ,who dont give a flying F about anything other than her .... thank god I cant stand her ,but props to her tennis ,was damn good..

:zzz:


6-1 6-2 :haha:

gmak
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:44 PM
well, i remember that maria said some nice things when she lost to kim in miami...

and also she praised justine in dubai a few weeks ago :shrug:

anlavalle
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:49 PM
Maria should be thankful, Justine would have had the title if she won the semi.


Yeah but you should`nt expect that for Maria

xin_hui
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:32 AM
fonsito, stop responding to every single post that attacks maria:o, and thereby make fun of elena or the poster:rolleyes:

cheo23
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:52 AM
fonsito, stop responding to every single post that attacks maria:o, and thereby make fun of elena or the poster:rolleyes:
:rolleyes: Fonsito, is not acting any different when other posters get upset when people make rude/mean spirited comments about their favorite players...so whatever!!!!!!!

GO FONSITO!!!! WE LOVE U!!!!!!:hearts:

cheo23
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:54 AM
well, i remember that maria said some nice things when she lost to kim in miami...

and also she praised justine in dubai a few weeks ago :shrug:
This is GM idiots at work again :lol: ...they are always constantly trying to stir up CONTROVERSY!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :lol:

cheo23
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:58 AM
what do expect? Maria lives on Planet Sharapova ,shes the only one that matters ,its all about her ,she is simply selfish ,not an unusual trait in this world it has to be said ,but her speeches never credit anyone with anything .

U NEED TO spend a Day REREADING HER INTERVIEWS & speeches where she CREDITS her opponents UNLIKE SOME PLAYERS ON THE WTA TOUR!!!

GET IT TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!:smash: :cuckoo:

TeaMMashA
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:00 AM
what do expect? Maria lives on Planet Sharapova ,shes the only one that matters ,its all about her ,she is simply selfish ,not an unusual trait in this world it has to be said ,but her speeches never credit anyone with anything ,Serena made a great speech in WImb when Maria beat her ,Maria did not.. shes a great player ,but a stuck up self congratulatory person ,who dont give a flying F about anything other than her .... thank god I cant stand her ,but props to her tennis ,was damn good..
you should take a moment to look up marias charity work and how much clinics she does in comparison to Elena! :)

xin_hui
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:05 AM
you should take a moment to look up marias charity work and how much clinics she does in comparison to Elena! :)

that's unfair. i'm sure elena has done her fair share of such work too

u know how much charity maria does, which is good. but u dont know how much elena does to comment;)

ys
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:12 AM
Things definitely could be better between the two. Lena congratulated her in her speech. Lena complimented Maria in her post match interview. Maria didn't mention Elena in her speech. From reading Maria's postmatch interview you would not be able to even figure out that it is after playing Dementieva. Somehow, it is sad.

fonsito
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:19 AM
maria wanted to high five elena, who refused. maria said some kind words and elena didnt even look at her, so why'd maria have to thank her later?

Dan23
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:21 AM
maria has no class.
elena has class.

that is all.
no it is not ;)

Natasc
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:54 AM
well...if Elena saying that having a russian fianl is great, so take a look at that:

Q. Are you also proud because this was dominated by Russian girls?
MARIA SHARAPOVA: Yeah, for sure. I don't remember the last time we had two Russians in the final. I don't even know. Is there a final this year? I don't know. It's really special. I remember in '04 we had so many Russian finals. Hopefully we'll see many more.

iPatty
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:54 AM
maria wanted to high five elena, who refused. maria said some kind words and elena didnt even look at her, so why'd maria have to thank her later?
She wanted to 'high five' her. :tape: I don't think that's the phrase you were lookin' for. ;)

bellascarlett
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:58 AM
:rolleyes: Fonsito, is not acting any different when other posters get upset when people make rude/mean spirited comments about their favorite players...so whatever!!!!!!!

GO FONSITO!!!! WE LOVE U!!!!!!:hearts:

:haha: :haha: :haha: Oh cheo, ur too much sometimes...:lol:

Natasc
Mar 20th, 2006, 01:58 AM
what do expect? Maria lives on Planet Sharapova ,shes the only one that matters ,its all about her ,she is simply selfish ,not an unusual trait in this world it has to be said ,but her speeches never credit anyone with anything ,Serena made a great speech in WImb when Maria beat her ,Maria did not.. shes a great player ,but a stuck up self congratulatory person ,who dont give a flying F about anything other than her .... thank god I cant stand her ,but props to her tennis ,was damn good..
hatter...and .. 61 62.... :rolleyes:

and for the rest, sometimes and u are too excited after great momments u forget to thanks even to ur mum!!

did anyone ever saw OScar or any other competition??
Once I saw the guy:"ow I forgot to thank my mum"

so dont bash her for forgot to thanks her oppo and someone that really doesnt care for her
its not liek they are best mattes.... :o