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GracefulVenus
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:57 AM
Congrats to Maria for winning the Pacific Life title. She has been playing very well all season and it was only a matter of time before she won a title. I must say that I am very impressed with the Russian women so far this year. Thier up and coming players are going to be a force to deal with. Safina looked damn good against Hingis, despite the loss. I hope that my fellow American players can step it up for the clay court season, because the Russians sure look like they will. And where is Capriati :) :) :) :)

morningglory
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:59 AM
Yeah first all-Russian final in a tier-1 in a loooooooooong time :D
A sign that things could be a repeat of 2004!
Go my girls!

vogus
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:28 AM
Sharapova is not a Russian, so what's your point?

GracefulVenus
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:32 AM
Sharapova is not a Russian, so what's your point?
Not trying to get into that debate, but I don't see any other flag next to her name but the Russian flag. Would you be happier if it was a half-American; half-Russian flag.

bellascarlett
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:40 AM
Not trying to get into that debate, but I don't see any other flag next to her name but the Russian flag. Would you be happier if it was a half-American; half-Russian flag.
:lol: exactly....

So Disrespectful
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:42 AM
Lots of players are based in America anyways

fammmmedspin
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:10 AM
Maria is moving forward again which is good news. Her game is getting more varied which will help her appeal too.

Elena is competitive at the top level again - though she's not at her 2004 level yet i would think. A bit more consistency and a few more big wins and she may get there though.

Nastya isn't putting it all together again yet - which is very good for Elena and maria and leaves the question of whether they have really pulled ahead of Nastya unanswered.

Nadia is doing well and looks credible for her ranking.

Dinara looks good and improving.

Maria is very near to making the top 20 40% Russian again..

UDACHi
Mar 19th, 2006, 03:48 AM
I don't get why people say ELena is almost at her "2004 level". Outside of a handful of tournaments, Elena was pretty sucky in 2004. She's very consistently going deep in draws now, and won her biggest title to date recently. I'd say she's ascended her 2004 level.

~Dementievaitis~
Mar 19th, 2006, 04:31 AM
I don't get why people say ELena is almost at her "2004 level". Outside of a handful of tournaments, Elena was pretty sucky in 2004. She's very consistently going deep in draws now, and won her biggest title to date recently. I'd say she's ascended her 2004 level.

I think so.

Except for AO, Elena played the other 4 tournaments with results which at least equals to her seed no.:
Tokyo: seed 2, Champion
Paris: seed 5, QF
Belgium: seed 4, semi-final
Indian Wells: seed 4, runner-up

Elena has a more consistent result than that of 2004. Still there are too much 3 setters against not-that-good players though. Still Elena has freaky serve. Still an elite player should do more than achieving the expected (I mean equalising your seed no.). These are the points to agrue with. But Elena does serve at full speed now. She wins no matter what. To me, Elena is definitely improving and that's why I see GS will come if Elena keeps going like that.

I feel Elena's still developing which is certainly an excellent sign for an 24 years old player, as I think most WTA players have already stopped for further improvements at around 20-year-of-age.

Zauber
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:09 AM
yes she is playing as well as ever.
She could be tops but for the one thing i keep yelling at her about.
I just dont understand. oh well.

selyoink
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:33 AM
Nastya isn't putting it all together again yet - which is very good for Elena and maria and leaves the question of whether they have really pulled ahead of Nastya unanswered.


That question has been answered. Nastya's inability to have good results has answered that question. Maybe she can move ahead of them again but that is a big maybe. At the moment Lena and Maria are miles ahead of Nastya. Unfortunately.

Reuchlin
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:36 AM
Sharapova is not a Russian, so what's your point?

I find this to be a very insulting remark. Who are you to judge what nationality someone identifies with? I am a European who (much like Masha) moved to to North America from Europe in my early childhood. I speak my native language with an accent and can't read or write well in it. Yet I consider myself 100% European.

Lulu.
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:58 AM
Sharapova is not a Russian, so what's your point?





What is she? :shrug:

tennisrox
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:03 AM
The russians are always on the move when the big guns are on holiday. :p

ctan88
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:16 AM
Because of her 4th round appearance, wont Myskina move into 10th place on the rankings ... can anyone confirm?

selyoink
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:18 AM
Because of her 4th round appearance, wont Myskina move into 10th place on the rankings ... can anyone confirm?

That would be great and sad if true. It would be nice to see her back in the top 10 but she certainly isn't a top 10 player at the moment.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:33 AM
What is she? :shrug:


Then ...

Svetlana , Marat and Igor Andreev are Spaniards :D :D :D

tennisjam
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:58 PM
very impressive indeed...and I think the russian tennis is not even close to its potential at the moment...

TeaMMashA
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:06 PM
Great to see this!!! :bounce: :) :worship: :bigclap: :banana:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5697/mariasharapovafrindianwells200.jpg

fammmmedspin
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:51 PM
I don't get why people say ELena is almost at her "2004 level". Outside of a handful of tournaments, Elena was pretty sucky in 2004. She's very consistently going deep in draws now, and won her biggest title to date recently. I'd say she's ascended her 2004 level.

Agree but it depends whether you judge 2004 overall or by the really big highs. The big thing about 2004 was that she managed to get through big fields of top players in top tournaments winning some long hard matches? That lead to GS finals and lots of points. Iin 2005, apart from in the Fed Cup, she didn't repeat because she lost more of those big matches when she managed to get to them and often didn't get that far. In 2006 she is having more tournament success but she is still being inconsistent when she shouldn't (AO) and you might argue Tokyo had a weakish field, and a Myskina in the doldrums. IW though is clearly significant because, like in HK, she has now started beating really top players in major matches again. Beating Justine ,who must be one of the top 4 players on tour and might be the most likely contender for Gs wins if fit, really suggests she could repeat her 2004 runs again. Beating Martina reinforces that impression. If she could now pull out a win against someone else like Momo who is likely to get in her way in a GS the case would be even stronger - at present its looking like she may be there but there isn't enough evidence yet to say if she can do again what she did in the 2004 GS?

fammmmedspin
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:05 PM
Because of her 4th round appearance, wont Myskina move into 10th place on the rankings ... can anyone confirm?

No she is still 29 points behind Francesca and Venus is roughly 240 points ahead.

Nastya went a round further at Miami last year than Francesca if I read Tennis Corner right so has more to defend. Venus has 157 points to defend so both Francesca and Nastya would have to do a lot better than they did last year even if Venus did less well.

fammmmedspin
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:13 PM
That question has been answered. Nastya's inability to have good results has answered that question. Maybe she can move ahead of them again but that is a big maybe. At the moment Lena and Maria are miles ahead of Nastya. Unfortunately.

Nastya's inability to have good results was there in 2004 in between her ability to have really good results and her ability to lose lose big results from winning positions. Of course if she doesn't start winning at some point you go with the mass of recent results but at present you could argue we may be just waiting the next change up. I wouldn't rate Elena or maria ahead of Nastya until I saw evidence that they could beat her playing anywhere near her best or until the current lull went on quite a bit longer.

Actually stress is a bizarre and powerful thing which is pretty unpredictable and you wonder if 2005 left an aftermath - the medical shocks of 2005 might turn into a long term problem or they might go away without warning.

améliemomo
Mar 19th, 2006, 03:21 PM
The russians are always on the move when the big guns are on holiday. :p

Not false :drool:

Carmen Mairena
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:09 PM
Great to see this!!! :bounce: :) :worship: :bigclap: :banana:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5697/mariasharapovafrindianwells200.jpg

If only the trophies were reversed... :sad: :crying2:

Elena :hug: :inlove:

ys
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:13 PM
I think so.

Except for AO, Elena played the other 4 tournaments with results which at least equals to her seed no.:
Tokyo: seed 2, Champion
Paris: seed 5, QF
Belgium: seed 4, semi-final
Indian Wells: seed 4, runner-up

AO - first round loss.. Tokyo: Champion, Paris: QF, Antwerp :semi-final,
Indian Wells: runner-up.. So far this year, not a single repeat of result.. 3 results still missing in this collection are 2nd round loss, 3rd round loss, R16 loss... Makes me a bit scared of Lean's Miami prospects.. :scared: