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Uranus
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:16 PM
The following players have had serious problems in the recent months (maybe years). Most of them are still young, they've been high on the rankings, but dropped or are going to do it.
What do you predict to these players for the future?

- Vera Zvonareva (currently #46, #9 in August): she's had many, many problems since the start of the season. Apart from the Auckland tournament, before the final, she's lost all her matches, the worst defeat being the match against Selima Sfar, ranked over #200.

- Jelena Jankovic (currently #26, #17 in August): she only won one match (a 3-set one) this year. Since last June and her crazy match against Myskina at Wimbledon (10/8 last set), she hasn't done much (one Tier IV final). She hasn't fall on the rankings but the worst is yet to come (SF in Berlin, F in Birmingham...)

- Serena Williams (fell to #58): she hasn't played since her 3rd round defeat at the Australian Open. She withdrew from Miami, injured. Last year, she won one tournament (the AO) then reached one SF. Some people think she's going to retire soon.

- Karolina Sprem (#75, #17 at best): she's had a disastrous 2005 season and really needs consistency. She can win a match easily, then being beaten as easily, against a lower-ranked opponent. At the end of 2005 she reached the final in Kolkata. This year, at the Australian Open, she caused problems to Lindsay Davenport. Encouraging. Will she be back close to her best rank?

- Evgenia Linetskaya (#141, #35 in July): injured at the end of last season, Evgenia has only won 2 matches since Rome, in May. Since the US Open, she hasn't won a single match. Currently she's injured again.

- Jelena Dokic (#412, #4 in 2002): very hard to go back to her 2002 form. Do you think she has a chance of reaching the top 30 - 20 - maybe 10 again?

- Iroda Tulyaganova (#399, #16 in 2002): having problems with her elbow since mid-2003. In 2004 and 2005, she only played one WTA tournament (in her hometown Tashkent) and hasn't played a single tournament this year. She's only 24, so she still has time to recover. Do you see her coming back to the top 50 or even 30 again?

- Conchita Martinez (currently #51): this year, the 33-year-old Spanish hasn't played yet. In April she'll be 34... is this injury synonym of retirement?

Now let's discuss it.
You can add players if you think it's necessary :)

Please fans, try to be as obvious as possible ;)

PatrickRyan
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:17 PM
never count serena out, she's made so many combacks, and be prepared for her biggest one yet!

FaceyFacem
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:29 PM
serena can easily comeback if she wants, who knows if she wants to...

i think vera is over

i never thought jankovic was anything impressive, i expect her to hang out between 20-35 for her career

dokic and tulyaganova are toast

linetskaya is young and only injured, i think she can come back and have a reasonable career

i expect sprem to rise and fall over and over again in her career, her style of play will not allow her to remain steady near the top

martinez i assume is resting to make one final push and probably bow out after the french...that's my guess

furrykitten
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:32 PM
Shame about Dokic, she should never have lost so much weight, maybe her big bust was her secret weopen on court.

CJ07
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:42 PM
I Think Dokic, Tulyaganova, Zvonareva, Sprem and Martinez are "over"

as for Linetskaya the next couple of years are telling.

And for Serena, I mean who knows. She can get back to #1, whether she will or not though is another question.

LH2HBH
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:45 PM
I enjoyed Tulyaganova, too bad she's probably "over"

Lulu.
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:50 PM
Vera Zvonareva- Nope. but I dont think she'll find much success
Jelena Jankovic- Yes...she was never all that to begin with
Serena Williams- Hell No!
Karolina Sprem- No way. She's still got game
Evgenia Linetskaya- Probably not. shes good
Jelena Dokic- Maybe. She can continue her comeback if she gets it together
Iroda Tulyaganova- Yes. shes way over
Conchita Martinez- Not on clay

Reuchlin
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:57 PM
Shame about Dokic, she should never have lost so much weight, maybe her big bust was her secret weopen on court.

Well, with all the lesbians on the WTAtour... :tape:

UDACHi
Mar 18th, 2006, 10:07 PM
Vera Zvonareva- I think she has a chance, but I don't know. She's so emotional, it's gotta be hard for a personality like hers to not be winning anymore.
Jelena Jankovic- She could have a slide similar to that of Sprem if she doesn't get it together soon. I assume she will slide down the rankings because some strong parts of 2005. I think she'll come back in 2007, honestly.
Serena Williams- If she doesn't start playing more, get in better shape, and concentrate a bit, it's possible that she may not reenter the top 10 anytime soon.
Karolina Sprem- I don't expect to see her back tomorrow, but someday, Sprem will return to at least top 30.
Evgenia Linetskaya- It'll take a while, she definitely has game though.
Jelena Dokic- I think if she were to focus on her comeback a bit more, she could make it to around 50-100, but never again will we see her contending for anything all that important.
Iroda Tulyaganova- Probably has a chance of lingering around 100 and becoming a tricky journeywoman, but don't see her up very high.
Conchita Martinez- She has the game, but will probably retire very soon.

so.krist!na
Mar 18th, 2006, 10:18 PM
I dont think Linetskaya is "over"
she is just 19,she is just injured.

cheyk
Mar 18th, 2006, 10:34 PM
Conchita doesn´t worry about rankings, she only wants to be funny playing tennis, and when she doesn´t, she will retire

*Jool*
Mar 18th, 2006, 10:50 PM
Iroda :shrug: probably :sad:
Jelena J -really dont think so
Karolina S - nope she ll come back one day
Vera Z - probably will be back maybe not top 10 but sure top 20
Evgenia L - she certainly is not over - too bad for her she got injured when things were starting to go well for her
Serena - well the only problem for her is to FOCUS on her tennis career -if she doesnt care that much anymore, shes done, if she regroups mentally OF COURSE she'll be back (I kinda hope so )


Conchita - :sad: I dont know , I so dont hope so ... I really hope she'll recover 100% and play at least a last season

SvetaPleaseWin.
Mar 18th, 2006, 11:06 PM
Vera Zvonareva- i cant see vera getting back in the top 10, she has the game but she still says that her mentality on court doesnt affect her results, which it clearly does. i see her continuing to slide down the rankings.

Jelena Jankovic- no i dont think shes over, i dont think she ever really reached her best. she admitted she has no confidence (i think since that myskina match at wimby)-she needs a big win to get herself back on track. i expect to see her in the top 15 but maybe not for a couple of years.

Serena Williams- she's not over-still the best in the business and she has the self confidence to get beat the best and get back to the top of the game.

Karolina Sprem- no, she'll be back-i cant see her ever being that consistent but i can see some big wins happening for her.

Evgenia Linetskaya- not sure-shes got a decent game but i think the issues with her dad and coach have ruined her mentally.

Jelena Dokic- probably top 100 at best, cant see top 5 again.

Iroda Tulyaganova- im not even sure shes trying to come back-so i'll say shes over

Conchita Martinez- if she comes back during the clay season, she can cause a few problems for the top players but her best days are behind her.

lukehingis
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:24 AM
Not much comments on the other players (basically I think they're not gonna return to their former glory)

But we should never never count out a champion like Serena Williams! Someone who has won 7 slams (including 4 in a row!!!) and dominated the tour like she did. Martina Hingis is a prime example of that a multiple slam champion and dominant player can come back strong. If serena gets her groove back, she'd make a rise even more dramatic than martina's.

ezekiel
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:28 AM
Vera Zvonareva - She may yet be a bleep on the screen but she is likely done if she doesn't get mental help

Jelena Jankovic - Done as top 20 and now pays the price of overplaying. She may make some noise in future but is likely marginal

Serena Williams - a hall of fame carreer derailed . May make a comeback but it will be few and far between. Think Capriati who took years to get together and do something. Interesting to see how low she goes until she changes her ways

Karolina Sprem - completelly done as top 50, likely a marginal player in the future. Just doesn't have high ball IQ.

Evgenia Linetskaya - If she settles her family situation she may comeback and be top 50 but her health is in question.

Jelena Dokic - Completelly done as a factor. She is just not commited to the sport and time has passed her by

Iroda Tulyaganova - I don't know here but I guess it's done as she is injured or something.

Conchita Martinez - she may take an easy road out and retire. But I suspect she will wildcard her way to some tournaments and I don't know why as she is handled easily by even lower ranked opponents.

fammmmedspin
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:40 AM
Vera did Ok with her head not working in her first incarnation - if she can get that far back the opposition is stronger but top 20 looks possible - she hasn't actually playing that badly before her head imploded in 2006.


karolina looks to be coming back.

Jelena D might make it but she needs to start getting results and whats wrong with her isn't easy to recover from.

linetskya ought to get back - she has game.

Conchita is presumably hoping for clay and wimbledon? If not surely she will be off?

Serena is inexplicable - she is waiting to play better before coming back she tells us - but unless she gets fit and plays better and probably gets some match tightness she will just confirm the need to stay away even longer and wait to play better when she next does appear on a court. The perpetual injury is looking either career ending anyway or an excuse because she doesn't actually want to play - either way she needs a recovery or a change of heart to make it back. . I can't see her hanging around if she keeps on getting knocked out in early rounds.

racquetspeed
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:52 AM
The following players have had serious problems in the recent months (maybe years). Most of them are still young, they've been high on the rankings, but dropped or are going to do it.
What do you predict to these players for the future?

- Vera Zvonareva (currently #46, #9 in August): she's had many, many problems since the start of the season. Apart from the Auckland tournament, before the final, she's lost all her matches, the worst defeat being the match against Selima Sfar, ranked over #200.

- Jelena Jankovic (currently #26, #17 in August): she only won one match (a 3-set one) this year. Since last June and her crazy match against Myskina at Wimbledon (10/8 last set), she hasn't done much (one Tier IV final). She hasn't fall on the rankings but the worst is yet to come (SF in Berlin, F in Birmingham...)

- Serena Williams (fell to #58): she hasn't played since her 3rd round defeat at the Australian Open. She withdrew from Miami, injured. Last year, she won one tournament (the AO) then reached one SF. Some people think she's going to retire soon.

- Karolina Sprem (#75, #17 at best): she's had a disastrous 2005 season and really needs consistency. She can win a match easily, then being beaten as easily, against a lower-ranked opponent. At the end of 2005 she reached the final in Kolkata. This year, at the Australian Open, she caused problems to Lindsay Davenport. Encouraging. Will she be back close to her best rank?

- Evgenia Linetskaya (#141, #35 in July): injured at the end of last season, Evgenia has only won 2 matches since Rome, in May. Since the US Open, she hasn't won a single match. Currently she's injured again.

- Jelena Dokic (#412, #4 in 2002): very hard to go back to her 2002 form. Do you think she has a chance of reaching the top 30 - 20 - maybe 10 again?

- Iroda Tulyaganova (#399, #16 in 2002): having problems with her elbow since mid-2003. In 2004 and 2005, she only played one WTA tournament (in her hometown Tashkent) and hasn't played a single tournament this year. She's only 24, so she still has time to recover. Do you see her coming back to the top 50 or even 30 again?

- Conchita Martinez (currently #51): this year, the 33-year-old Spanish hasn't played yet. In April she'll be 34... is this injury synonym of retirement?

Now let's discuss it.
You can add players if you think it's necessary :)

Please fans, try to be as obvious as possible ;)

idiot, to count serena out is like counting kylie out of hot pants!!!

Fingon
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:38 AM
Vera Zvonareva (currently #46, #9 in August): she's had many, many problems since the start of the season. Apart from the Auckland tournament, before the final, she's lost all her matches, the worst defeat being the match against Selima Sfar, ranked over #200.

Vera is talented, but not great, and she is a headcase, she is still young and can get back on track, but won't do anything big.

- Jelena Jankovic (currently #26, #17 in August): she only won one match (a 3-set one) this year. Since last June and her crazy match against Myskina at Wimbledon (10/8 last set), she hasn't done much (one Tier IV final). She hasn't fall on the rankings but the worst is yet to come (SF in Berlin, F in Birmingham...)

Also quite emotional, I think she was overhypped and that got to her, with her feet a little more on earth she can improve.

- Serena Williams (fell to #58): she hasn't played since her 3rd round defeat at the Australian Open. She withdrew from Miami, injured. Last year, she won one tournament (the AO) then reached one SF. Some people think she's going to retire soon.

who knows, if Serena really wants it she can come back and win GSs again, but does she really want it? is her body holding up?, I can't answer these questions.

- Karolina Sprem (#75, #17 at best): she's had a disastrous 2005 season and really needs consistency. She can win a match easily, then being beaten as easily, against a lower-ranked opponent. At the end of 2005 she reached the final in Kolkata. This year, at the Australian Open, she caused problems to Lindsay Davenport. Encouraging. Will she be back close to her best rank?

She is one of the hardest hitters of the ball, she also works very hard.
Problems are, first, she doesn't have any support, I saw her in Montreal 2 years ago, she was on her own, no coach, nobody with her. She needed them someone to teach her to be patient, not to try to make a hole on the floor with every shot.
Last year I saw her again in Toronto, she was with her boyfriend, a Bikic brother, not really the kind of company that would help any player, much less a vulnerable young girl.
I saw Karolina crying, not because of her loss, I think it was something to do with her boyfriend, I don't know if she is still with him, but if she is, she needs to get away from him asap, he, like his brother is pure shit.
then she needs a coach, then maybe she can get back in the top 20.

- Evgenia Linetskaya (#141, #35 in July): injured at the end of last season, Evgenia has only won 2 matches since Rome, in May. Since the US Open, she hasn't won a single match. Currently she's injured again.

don't know much about her, seems to be injured a lot.

- Jelena Dokic (#412, #4 in 2002): very hard to go back to her 2002 form. Do you think she has a chance of reaching the top 30 - 20 - maybe 10 again?


game over, another Bikic brothers' victim, she has made too many mistakes, big ones, and I don't know if by chance but her career seems to have fallen apart since she has been in relationships, Bernoldi first and Bikic later.
Problem is, Jelena is not Hingis, I don't see her coming back from so far behind.


- Iroda Tulyaganova (#399, #16 in 2002): having problems with her elbow since mid-2003. In 2004 and 2005, she only played one WTA tournament (in her hometown Tashkent) and hasn't played a single tournament this year. She's only 24, so she still has time to recover. Do you see her coming back to the top 50 or even 30 again?


always injured.

- Conchita Martinez (currently #51): this year, the 33-year-old Spanish hasn't played yet. In April she'll be 34... is this injury synonym of retirement?

I have no idea, she never was a hardworker, very talented but lazy, her talent was enough to keep her going, I don't really know what's going on with her now.
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ceiling_fan
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:42 AM
I'm always comforted at the fact that Serena is the master of "comebacks"... but slightly anxious, because well... she has never slumped this badly in the past.

Uranus
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:04 PM
I added Serena because, the fact is, she's very, very far from her 2002(-03) form, when she was always winning. No use calling me an idiot or so, I said she might retire because that's what many people said or think. I don't think so, but in order to come back to the top, she has to play more than 10 tournaments a year. And early defeats or her numerous injuries might make her lose her motivation, in the end.

Iroda Tulyaganova / She may retire, as Deja Bedanova did, because of her injuries.

Jelena Dokic / I don't see her going top 20-30 again. But who knows... However, I think she will crack the top 100 again.

Evgenia Linetskaya / When her family problems will be over, she'll go top 30 at least for sure.


--> What do you think of Lina Krasnoroutskaya (mom) and Barbora Strycova?

Wiggly
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:17 PM
They all will never get back their career-high ranking.

Serena will be back but will nto play big season so will be impossible to be #1 again :sad:

-sugi-
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:44 PM
Linetskaya :hug:

I think she can beat her career high

TeaMMashA
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:45 PM
I reckon Dokic is over, shame that is :sad:

Volcana
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:13 PM
For players below age 25 or so, I think the more success you had, the more motivated you are to try and come back.

Serena - She has another slam or two in her, but are we going to see the player who was head and shoulders above the rest of the tour again? I don't think so. Serena's biggest problem, in a way, is that her non-tennis stuff is so successful. Her second biggest might be that she's been as successful as she's been at tennis while doing so many side projects. I think with the knee, she almost needs to turn herself into a tennis robot in order to return to the highest levels of performance.

Conchita Martinez - Is she going to win Wimbledon again? Of course not. Get back into the top ten? Again, no. Win a Tier III or Tier IV title on red clay? I'd bet a few euros on that.

Jelena Dokic - I actually can envision a return to the top twenty here. I have my own beliefs, almost totally unsubstantiated by fact, about why her career crashed, and I don't think they have anything to do with tennis.

Elena Bovina - I really liked her game, but at this point, I don't see a return to the top twenty.

Vera Zvonareva - I think her biggest stumbling block might be she doesn't enjoy playing. I can't think of any other reason why she can't return to the top ten. But that's a BIG reason.

Karolina Sprem - She was never as good as her best ranking. That flukey Wimbledon match inflated her ranking. Can she return to the top 50. Yes. Top 30? Only by gaming the system, which, ironically, is a lot easier without quality points.

Iroda Tulyaganova - Don't know enough about her. But three YEARS of elbow problems. At that young an age. Could be a form issue. If so, I doubt she's a top 20 player again.

V-MAC
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:28 PM
Hate saying it but I think Chanda Rubin is another player who can be added to this list :( She has pulled out of Amelia Island :mad: She has only played like 3 matches in the last year and a half and she is what.....around 30 now too.Time is running out, I hope she gets a crack at an injury-free season but it is looking doubtful.

PamShriverRockz
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:51 PM
Serena isn't over. If she still wants it, she'll be back with avengance.

Jevel
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:57 PM
Linetskaya -- still very young, as soon as she's healthy and playing consistently I think she'll back in the top 100.

Zvonareva -- if she can become more consistent and more emotionally stable on the court, she might make it back to the top 20.

Serena -- definitely has the taleent, but does she have the drive to come back right now. No one can deny she's got the game, but her movitation is questionable and she needs to be more consistent and work on her movement. If she does, watch out!

Iroda -- don't know, but I'd like to see her come back.

Conchita -- probably gonna play the clay court season and give it one last go for the FO.

Sprem -- I think she'll get back to the top 50, maybe top 20. But she's gotta become really consistent.

Dokic -- It's a shame what has happened to her, I feel for her and want her to come back and make it back into the top 20. But honestly I doubt she can do that. But will see, hopefully I'm wrong.

partbrit
Mar 19th, 2006, 03:18 PM
I think there's a chance that Serena and Linetskaya will return, as it were, but I have serious doubts about the rest of them. Someone mentioned Bovina, and I still have hope that she can return and resume her place among the really good players; I certainly do miss her.

I expect Rubin to retire. It is sad, how injury-plagued her career has been; so much might have been.

Carmen Mairena
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:06 PM
Dokic and Tulyaganova are over IMO. :sad: :hug:

Evgenia should be fine. :awww: :hug:

Conchita. :scared: :confused:

SAEKeithSerena
Mar 19th, 2006, 05:34 PM
never count serena out, she's made so many combacks, and be prepared for her biggest one yet!


i know, right buddy? winning miami after an 8 month-layoff, then reaching the wimbledon final and YEC final is awesome...just because she's in a rut right now doesn't mean shit, she's still young, has 7 grand slams, and will have MANY more before she retires.:bounce:

AsGoodAsNew
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:00 PM
The following players have had serious problems in the recent months (maybe years). Most of them are still young, they've been high on the rankings, but dropped or are going to do it.
What do you predict to these players for the future?

- Vera Zvonareva (currently #46, #9 in August): she's had many, many problems since the start of the season. Apart from the Auckland tournament, before the final, she's lost all her matches, the worst defeat being the match against Selima Sfar, ranked over #200.

- Jelena Jankovic (currently #26, #17 in August): she only won one match (a 3-set one) this year. Since last June and her crazy match against Myskina at Wimbledon (10/8 last set), she hasn't done much (one Tier IV final). She hasn't fall on the rankings but the worst is yet to come (SF in Berlin, F in Birmingham...)

- Serena Williams (fell to #58): she hasn't played since her 3rd round defeat at the Australian Open. She withdrew from Miami, injured. Last year, she won one tournament (the AO) then reached one SF. Some people think she's going to retire soon.

- Karolina Sprem (#75, #17 at best): she's had a disastrous 2005 season and really needs consistency. She can win a match easily, then being beaten as easily, against a lower-ranked opponent. At the end of 2005 she reached the final in Kolkata. This year, at the Australian Open, she caused problems to Lindsay Davenport. Encouraging. Will she be back close to her best rank?

- Evgenia Linetskaya (#141, #35 in July): injured at the end of last season, Evgenia has only won 2 matches since Rome, in May. Since the US Open, she hasn't won a single match. Currently she's injured again.

- Jelena Dokic (#412, #4 in 2002): very hard to go back to her 2002 form. Do you think she has a chance of reaching the top 30 - 20 - maybe 10 again?

- Iroda Tulyaganova (#399, #16 in 2002): having problems with her elbow since mid-2003. In 2004 and 2005, she only played one WTA tournament (in her hometown Tashkent) and hasn't played a single tournament this year. She's only 24, so she still has time to recover. Do you see her coming back to the top 50 or even 30 again?

- Conchita Martinez (currently #51): this year, the 33-year-old Spanish hasn't played yet. In April she'll be 34... is this injury synonym of retirement?

Now let's discuss it.
You can add players if you think it's necessary :)

Please fans, try to be as obvious as possible ;)

I agree with your entire list. And a few more as well! But NOT Serena. She is in a different league. It will be down to whether or not Serena WANTS to return, not down to talent or how well anyone else is doing..

^bibi^
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:12 PM
- Vera Zvonareva (currently #46, #9 in August):

Not "over" , but I don't see her reaching top 10 again...

- Jelena Jankovic (currently #26, #17 in August):

she's probably gonna stay in the top 30, but not better :sad:

- Serena Williams (fell to #58):

I won't even consider her as "over" the day she retires...

- Karolina Sprem (#75, #17 at best):

Definitely don't know what's wrong with her, she can still play like a top 20 player when she wants... Probably has to work on her mental toughness...

- Evgenia Linetskaya (#141, #35 in July):

Will probably come back in top 50 if fit...

- Jelena Dokic (#412, #4 in 2002):

Too much problems to solve before coming back...

- Iroda Tulyaganova (#399, #16 in 2002):

If she's fit, she'll be back, but she robably won't be fit...

- Conchita Martinez (currently #51):

I think she's gonna retire from singles and only play doubles...

vutt
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:29 PM
So how about Monica Seles - who can not combine big ego and weak tennis level these days...

alextim
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:03 PM
and about krasnoroutskaya?

Erika_Angel
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:05 PM
Jelena Dokic could definately come back. Her level in Australia was top 100 definately if not better. Razzano was playing very well, top 50 and Jelena nearly won. She just needed to work on her fitness and get match play in. I'm uncertain as to why she isn't playing anymore, she could really have done well I thought. Hopefully she hasn't given up.

andrewbroad
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:20 PM
Vera Zvonarëva (http://geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/): Bepa is going through a rough patch right now, but she was brilliant as recently as Auckland in January (before the final). She's a top-five talent and a potential Grand Slam champion; her career has been going mainly downhill since the start of 2005 due primarily to an energy-sapping virus, but at the age of 21 there's still hope that her best years are ahead of her.

Jelena Janković: A solid but unspectacular player, she's in a slump right now, but she's only 21, and I see no reason why she couldn't be top-20 again.

Serena Williams: She looked so unfit and underweight in January, I think she's lost her motivation, and I don't think she'll settle for losing in the third round of Grand Slams. It's not out of the question that she could return to form and win another Grand Slam, but to do that she'd have to work harder than she ever has before, and I think early retirement is more likely than her really wanting to put in those hard yards.

Karolina Šprem: I think she has many years ahead of her, but I think she'll spend them mainly slumping, with the occasional surprising run of form in a tournament. She's just not consistent.

Evgenia Linetskaya: Last year she was so promising, but then had issues with her abusive father if I've got my facts right. She's only 19, so her best years should be ahead of her.

Jelena Dokić (http://geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/dokic/): Her decision to return to Australia was very encouraging, but a couple of devastating losses in January may have knocked her motivation as she has been pulling out of tournaments on the ITF circuit ever since - supposedly due to a mysterious illness. It's increasingly hard to know what's going on with Jelena these days, but at the age of 22 it would be a tragic shame if she gave up now. She's just got to hang in there, and not expect miracles after one month of hard work.

Iroda Tulyaganova (http://geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/tulya/): Poor Iroda - always one injury after another (she hasn't played since October 2005). In 2002 I thought she had great potential to be a top-ten player, maybe even a Grand Slam champion, but the injuries kicked in before she even became experienced. She's only 24 now, and has the talent to surpass her previous best - but will she ever be free of the injuries?

Conchita Martínez: Was contemplating retirement at the end of last year, and hasn't been heard of since, so her career is almost certainly over.

Monica Seles (http://geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/seles/): Hasn't played since the French Open 2003 due to a stress-fracture in her left foot, apart from a few exhibitions where her form has been very poor. She still hopes to make a comeback this year - or retire at the end of it. I'm sure that she won't come back unless she feels she can be a factor in major tournaments. The longer she doesn't play, the less confident I feel; the best-case scenario would probably be one incomplete year with a couple of Grand Slam quarter-finals. But her place as the greatest tennis-player of all time is secure in my view.

--
Dr. Andrew Broad
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SAEKeithSerena
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:59 PM
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- Serena Williams (fell to #58):

I won't even consider her as "over" the day she retires...




AMEN!!!! LOVE YOU!:bounce:

Uranus
Mar 20th, 2006, 04:42 PM
and about krasnoroutskaya?
She's pregnant (hasn't given birth yet), and everyone knows how hard it is to come back afterwards.
Before her pregnancy she had been injured a long time, and just before she'd had many losses. A bit like K-Lina Sprem, she's so unconsistent.
She can comeback, she did it when she reached the Canada Open final!

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 20th, 2006, 05:46 PM
She's pregnant (hasn't given birth yet), and everyone knows how hard it is to come back afterwards.
Before her pregnancy she had been injured a long time, and just before she'd had many losses. A bit like K-Lina Sprem, she's so unconsistent.
She can comeback, she did it when she reached the Canada Open final!

she gave birth at end of October :wavey:
she started to hit again last month :wavey:
she wants to come back, but needs to get back in shape. maybe 2007

rrfnpump
Mar 20th, 2006, 05:50 PM
people seems to forget Vera reached Top10 WITH her mentality
her mentality was always there and didnt hinder her on her way to Top10

Vera is emotional on court. She was/is/and will always be. Thats Vera Zvonareva
I am not saying her mentality doesnt affect her, but its part of her game
and she came into Top10 with that game

no, there is some other reason why she keeps on falling
nobody knows - she also doesnt know

vogus
Mar 20th, 2006, 06:10 PM
Serena - She has another slam or two in her, but are we going to see the player who was head and shoulders above the rest of the tour again? I don't think so. Serena's biggest problem, in a way, is that her non-tennis stuff is so successful. Her second biggest might be that she's been as successful as she's been at tennis while doing so many side projects.



where did you come up with that one? Serena's success at her non-tennis endeavors has been marginal at best. Is she respected as an actress in Hollywood? No. Is she the toast of Milan as a designer? Obviously not. So where are you getting that shpiel from? Serena is becoming the new Anna Kournikova, famous for being famous. I wouldn't say that falls within the definition of success, at least not by the standards Serena previously set for herself as a tennis champion.

Slumpsova
Mar 20th, 2006, 06:24 PM
i hope Linetskaya has only injury not family problem.

tennisboi
Mar 20th, 2006, 06:31 PM
Vera:I think will make it back but she needs to sort herself out mentally first
Dokic:I think she's finished unfortunately.
Iroda.The injury has done so much damage that I don't think she'll ever get back.
Serena:The answer is up to her and her alone.

Donald
Mar 20th, 2006, 06:40 PM
I agree with your entire list. And a few more as well! But NOT Serena. She is in a different league. It will be down to whether or not Serena WANTS to return, not down to talent or how well anyone else is doing..


That is the most ridiculous fanboy excuse - if my fave doesn't have success she obviously doesn't WANT it.

Grow up .....

Donald
Mar 20th, 2006, 06:42 PM
For players below age 25 or so, I think the more success you had, the more motivated you are to try and come back.

Serena - She has another slam or two in her, but are we going to see the player who was head and shoulders above the rest of the tour again? I don't think so. Serena's biggest problem, in a way, is that her non-tennis stuff is so successful. ....


:lol: :lol: :lol:

OMG ......... :rolleyes: