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tenn_ace
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:20 PM
Both are not the players with variety, both have limited movement (very similar), besides Sania IMO has more powerful grounstrokes... So why is she not where Maria is in terms of her achievements?

tennisrox
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:23 PM
Experience,serve, and Discipline!
Maria's been playing at the top level for a few years. Sania only for one year, and she's only had a coach for 8 months.Two totally different players anyway.

the cat
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:24 PM
Maria's height is to her advantage when it comes to her serve and reach. Sania's is not tall and does not have much reach. And Masha moves better than she's given credit for.

Il Primo!
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:24 PM
I don't agree. Maria groundstrokes are better. Maria serve and return better. Maria is more focused also..I don't even know how someone can compare

Martian KC
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:26 PM
Serve is a big factor. And Maria is a much better sidetoside mover than people realise. Perhaps cos of her reach as well.

TeaMMashA
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:27 PM
Mirza and Sharapova being compared? :tape:

Craigy
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:28 PM
Sharapova is better, End of.

Cashif
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:31 PM
Mirza and Sharapova being compared? :tape:

Eventho I am a Sania fan,I totally agree..There is no comparison, Sania is a top50 player whereas Maria definitely has the talent and determination to be the TOP PLAYER in the world.

Apoorv
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:36 PM
Sania had practically no training early on. she is having a coach for last 8 months only. Maria on the other hand had coaching of the best kind right from the childhood. so she has better discipline, serve and knows what to do and when. Sania has learnt how to serve now at the age of 19!, give her two years and i hope she will be a much better player compared to what she is now. the recent slump is because of the changes she is trying to bring in her game and not because she is not talented.
Dont get me wrong, Maria is talented and will soon dominate the woman's tennis. always keep in mind the resourses the two had to work with for last 7-8 years.

gugak
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:36 PM
:p

Power is nothing without control.

tennisrox
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Dont get me wrong, Maria is talented and will soon dominate the woman's tennis but please dont make this a thread to bash sania

He isn't trying to bash her. He's just asking why she isn't more highly ranked.
Every player on the tour who's faced her is talking about sania's forehand.Seems like its reasonable to expect more of her.She still has a lot to mature, and areas that need work.
There's no point in comparing the two anyway.

tenn_ace
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Sania had practically no training early on. she is having a coach for last 8 months only. Maria on the other hand had coaching of the best kind right from the childhood. so she has better discipline, serve and knows what to do and when. Sania has learnt how to serve now at the age of 19!, give her two years and i hope she will be a much better player compared to what she is now. the recent slump is because of the changes she is trying to bring in her game and not because she is not talented.
Dont get me wrong, Maria is talented and will soon dominate the woman's tennis but please dont make this a thread to bash sania. always keep in mind the resourses the two had to work with for last 7-8 years.


why do you say I made this thread to bash Sania? :rolleyes: I even said that IMO Sania's grounstrokes are better as they are more penetrating. I just find these two players tenniswise very similar (strongs sides, weaknesses) and am trying to understand why, e.g., Maria gets to the final of IW and Sania doesn't. I think it's valid.

tenn_ace
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:47 PM
He isn't trying to bash her. He's just asking why she isn't more highly ranked.
Every player on the tour who's faced her is talking about sania's forehand.Seems like its reasonable to expect more of her.She still has a lot to mature, and areas that need work.
There's no point in comparing the two anyway.

thanks. i wish I could give out more reps today... tomorrow it will be coming your way. :wavey:

Sania backhand is also pretty good. Lena D. had troubles off both sides of Sania when they played.

the cat
Mar 18th, 2006, 02:51 PM
LenaD fan made a pertinent point about how Masha has had excellent training and coaching since childhood while Sania has not. That has played a major role in their different developements as tennis players.

Apoorv
Mar 18th, 2006, 03:01 PM
why do you say I made this thread to bash Sania? :rolleyes: I even said that IMO Sania's grounstrokes are better as they are more penetrating. I just find these two players tenniswise very similar (strongs sides, weaknesses) and am trying to understand why, e.g., Maria gets to the final of IW and Sania doesn't. I think it's valid.


please dont get me wrong. it was not aimed at you. i am just refering to a possibility because of what usually happens when two players are compared especially when the difference between their achievements is this big. btw i have edited my post.

Carmen Mairena
Mar 18th, 2006, 03:02 PM
:tape: :tape: :tape:

fammmmedspin
Mar 18th, 2006, 03:07 PM
Maria is Venus 2000 light with less speed, similar power, same determination, fewer errors, better technique and actually more variety.

Sania is someone I can't quite think of with not enough consistency yet.

IceHock
Mar 18th, 2006, 03:11 PM
well maria is such a good competitor she fights for everything.sania makes to many ue's compared to maria she's either gunna hit a winner or an error where as maria has a little more safety on her ground strokes.maria's serve is a lot better too.and prolly maria has a better mentality

Mightymirza
Mar 18th, 2006, 03:21 PM
well sharapova started playing on tour at age of 13 and sania at age of 18..how can they both have same experience..And experience does play vital role in game to mature...I think sania does not get intimidated on court even if shes mp down..She goes for her shots..which are outrageous at times but i think as she plays more she will know which shots she can make and which she cant and play accordingly..So far they r not comparable as the serve factor and sharapova is far more consistent..Plus the kinda coaching sania got till 18 years :tape: :tape: Coach dint even iknow she had flaw in her serving motion...Anyways shes a natural learner..And i hope soon live upto her potential...

PointBlank
Mar 18th, 2006, 03:29 PM
Inconsistency for Sania. When she gets it in, it is like you are watching a top 10 player, but she doesnt get it in enough.

DEETHELICK
Mar 18th, 2006, 03:52 PM
Consistency and technique.

And all the other factors mentioned above.

jochem
Mar 18th, 2006, 04:46 PM
Maria's movement is not one of best... one of the worst in top 10 IMO, but she moves better than Sania. Anyone who saw Maria's match against Martina would've noticed Maria really gets a lot of balls back. Her biggest problem is that she sometimes goes for winners when she is in defence.. nevertheless Maria's movement is underrated. Sania's movement is worse as she's not able to bring a lot of balls back when she is in trouble... Maria also has a far better serve and definately more consistent and has more experience. Sania could be top 20 IMO but I dont see her top 10. She should work on her movement, serve and consistency. The shots are there, now she needs to learn how to control herself and go for winners when she really has the chance to do so!

K.U.C.W-R.V
Mar 18th, 2006, 04:54 PM
Its between the ears.

LH2HBH
Mar 18th, 2006, 05:49 PM
Sania's a good player but believe me, there are two different calibres going on here.

Paldias
Mar 18th, 2006, 05:50 PM
Maria is a lot more consistent and she has a better serve than Sania. Plus I think that sometimes when there is a stressful situation Sania overhits or just puts everything in the ball and it flys WAY out. :scared:

morningglory
Mar 18th, 2006, 05:56 PM
Maria is more consistent and is mentally stronger. Also Maria has a better serve. If you look at forehands, backhands, all the strokes, Maria seems to hit better than Sania.

guyinsf
Mar 18th, 2006, 05:58 PM
Maria's height is to her advantage when it comes to her serve and reach. Sania's is not tall and does not have much reach. And Masha moves better than she's given credit for.

Height has nothing to do with it, at least not a huge factor unless Sania is 4'7". Justin is more successfull than Maria, how do you explain that? Maybe Maria is just better than Sania.

SAEKeithSerena
Mar 18th, 2006, 06:55 PM
maria will always be the more accomplished player, for sure

Arhivarius
Mar 18th, 2006, 07:01 PM
Height has nothing to do with it, at least not a huge factor unless Sania is 4'7". Justin is more successfull than Maria, how do you explain that? Maybe Maria is just better than Sania.

Justin was nobody at Maria's current age.

tyk101
Mar 18th, 2006, 07:10 PM
i've seen sania play, her serve isn't there yet and her GS can be inconsistent.

Mightymirza
Mar 18th, 2006, 07:55 PM
Justin was nobody at Maria's current age.
Well to be frank Justine has learnt her strokes over years..She and momo have so many strokes in their arsenal..Took them time to sort out things completely..Even now justine is trying to improve trying to improve transition game..Trying to volley better..mixing up paces but sharapova even though she has great strokes..Hasnt added much to it anything..Thats why people question how far she can go..I mean you should be able to produce something new in course of time else everyone gets used to your game and read it..I havnt even seen sharapova slicing the ball to change the pace..All she tries to do is bash it as hard as possible..She got really good strokes no dount..textbook perfect but she doesnt seem to heading somewhere..(though has improved loads in movement must say)..But justine on other hands still trying lot of new things..Adding even more variety..thats why she accpomlished so much at end..I think key is to keep learning new things and using them deftly to keep your opponent guessing most of the times..Sania is learning new things too..New serve,slice backhand,points construction,movement is bit better(she just started competing on this level so will take time for her to actually use everything eventually)..Sharpy is a very good player as of now just dont see her improving much as of now..Where as justine :worship: :worship:

SJW
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:12 PM
because Sania honestly isn't that good.

cheo23
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:25 PM
Mirza and Sharapova being compared? :tape:
exactly...I don't understand why their being compared

Miss Maria Sharapova is the better player, the more accomplished

1st of all , SHE SERVES ALOT BETTER

2nd of all, she has a BETTER BACKHAND

3rd of all, she's CONSISTENT!!!!!!!!!

4th of all, she has a FIGHTING Spirit!!!!!!!

5th of all, she's MORE LOVED by her FANS !!!!!!!!!!! :p :angel: :lol:

:inlove:
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:38 PM
5th of all, she's MORE LOVED by her FANS !!!!!!!!!!! :p :angel: :lol:

I dunno about that...Some of Sania's fans are complete wack-jobs and will do anything to get near her or anything...She has some pretty obsessive fans! :tape: No offence to any Sania fans on this board - you all rock. :kiss:

Krystell
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:39 PM
Both are not the players with variety, both have limited movement (very similar), besides Sania IMO has more powerful grounstrokes... So why is she not where Maria is in terms of her achievements?


You haven't been watching Maria lately, she no longer has "limited" movement, she's probably one of the fastest big girls playing now and she is no longer all that one dimensional of a player. That might be the difference right there, Maria has worked to change and improve her game physically and mentally, and Sania is still the same and hasn't improved that much. Sania has a powerful forehand, not necessarily are her other strokes that powerful.

Mightymirza
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:44 PM
You haven't been watching Maria lately, she no longer has "limited" movement, she's probably one of the fastest big girls playing now and she is no longer all that one dimensional of a player. That might be the difference right there, Maria has worked to change and improve her game physically and mentally, and Sania is still the same and hasn't improved that much. Sania has a powerful forehand, not necessarily are her other strokes that powerful.
Have u watched sania play ever??Shes learning new serve...Learnt slice..Trying to come in..true sharpy has definately improved her movement loads..But what u mean shes not one dimensional player anymore???Most of her game is power power power....

Krystell
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:01 PM
Have u watched sania play ever??Shes learning new serve...Learnt slice..Trying to come in..true sharpy has definately improved her movement loads..But what u mean shes not one dimensional player anymore???Most of her game is power power power....


Yes, I have watched Sania play multiple times. I never see the drop shot, I rarely see her come to net, I rarely see her lob, I usually just see her smacking the ball, and making too many errors, and playing well for a couple of games then losing concentration and not taking advantage of the big points....... Maria is now using the drop shot, she's always used the lob, she's using slice now, and she's really starting to come to net and take the ball out of the air more. Maria's net game and transition game has improved greatly from a couple of years ago.

furrykitten
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:03 PM
Maria is better than Sania in every department, tennis wise or any really.

CC
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:36 PM
I don't recall ever seeing Sania play, but if her technique in that Lotto commercial is any indication she may not have a very impressive game.

Mightymirza
Mar 18th, 2006, 10:17 PM
I don't recall ever seeing Sania play, but if her technique in that Lotto commercial is any indication she may not have a very impressive game.
Well she doesnt have a textbook forehand but the technique is unique and the racket head speed is just awesome..Plus the wrist snap gives it extra oopmph and its really hard to read..Its so unconvensional but effective nonetheless

pcrtennis
Mar 18th, 2006, 10:56 PM
SHarapova has had a muc more pampered upbringing as well, that's helped her development.

:inlove:
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:28 AM
Also, Maria beat Lena in straights, whilst Sania loses to Lena in 3 (after having a 1 set lead). :o :drool:

Krystell
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:08 AM
SHarapova has had a muc more pampered upbringing as well, that's helped her development.


I don't think Maria's upbringing was very pampered if you want to know the truth. She went through alot as a young girl at the academy without her mother.

Corswandt
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:46 AM
Serve is a big factor. And Maria is a much better sidetoside mover than people realise. Perhaps cos of her reach as well.

Yes.

Long legs = long stride. Long arms = long reach.

ceiling_fan
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:11 AM
Its between the ears.

totally agree

pcrtennis
Mar 19th, 2006, 02:13 AM
I don't think Maria's upbringing was very pampered if you want to know the truth. She went through alot as a young girl at the academy without her mother.

Oh boohoo, Congratulations for Sharapova surviving without her mother in a world Class Tennis Academy in Florida...Sania grew up in Hyderabad, India...no where near the opportunites that Sharapova had. Sharapova's "amazing" story is so over blown and tiresome. You can't even compare the upbringing of these two...

genius
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:04 AM
why do you say I made this thread to bash Sania? :rolleyes: I even said that IMO Sania's grounstrokes are better as they are more penetrating. I just find these two players tenniswise very similar (strongs sides, weaknesses) and am trying to understand why, e.g., Maria gets to the final of IW and Sania doesn't. I think it's valid.

They are not similar at all.

Look at how both players both use their wrists and the options available to their strokes.

Sania has a signature shot in her forehand-This forehand is different from a typical davenport hard hit western grip forehand. The rest of the game will have to support this one big strategic weapon just like Steffi. Her backhand can sting too but its not as big.

Sharapova's game is more about power and precision.Barring the serve, other weapons are effective without being outstanding.

To answer your question of course, Maria's game is easily more complete at this stage especially a great serve.Sania on the other hand has still an incomplete game with a weak serve and a service action that has been remodelled by Roche and will take time to see its full effect.

but eventually Sania's groundies has better prospects because of the creative potential an flexibility of her wrists and she will have more options to hurt her opponent strategically. Also the late point of contact makes it more versatile and difficult to read.In short she will most likely be a better shotmaker. but for results to reflect that she has got to work a lot on the serve and temper the high risks a bit to find the right balance. people will get the idea.

Fingon
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:06 AM
Both are not the players with variety, both have limited movement (very similar), besides Sania IMO has more powerful grounstrokes... So why is she not where Maria is in terms of her achievements?

How about Maria is better at everything?

tennisrox
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:14 AM
They are not similar at all.

Sania has a signature shot in her forehand-This forehand is different from a typical davenport hard hit western grip forehand. .

Davenport uses an eastern grip, Sania semi-western. ;)
Grips are irrelevant here. Creativity of the wrists is a different matter altogether.

tenn_ace
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:21 AM
if there is so much wrist action as everybody says, who long is she going to stay injury free?

Reuchlin
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:22 AM
Sania had practically no training early on. she is having a coach for last 8 months only. Maria on the other hand had coaching of the best kind right from the childhood. so she has better discipline, serve and knows what to do and when. Sania has learnt how to serve now at the age of 19!, give her two years and i hope she will be a much better player compared to what she is now. the recent slump is because of the changes she is trying to bring in her game and not because she is not talented.
Dont get me wrong, Maria is talented and will soon dominate the woman's tennis. always keep in mind the resourses the two had to work with for last 7-8 years.
nice objective post.

Reuchlin
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:25 AM
Height has nothing to do with it, at least not a huge factor unless Sania is 4'7". Justin is more successfull than Maria, how do you explain that? Maybe Maria is just better than Sania.
how do you explain that?
ummm, she's only 18 :tape: :angel:

Reuchlin
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:27 AM
Well to be frank Justine has learnt her strokes over years..She and momo have so many strokes in their arsenal..Took them time to sort out things completely..Even now justine is trying to improve trying to improve transition game..Trying to volley better..mixing up paces but sharapova even though she has great strokes..Hasnt added much to it anything..Thats why people question how far she can go..I mean you should be able to produce something new in course of time else everyone gets used to your game and read it..I havnt even seen sharapova slicing the ball to change the pace..All she tries to do is bash it as hard as possible..She got really good strokes no dount..textbook perfect but she doesnt seem to heading somewhere..(though has improved loads in movement must say)..But justine on other hands still trying lot of new things..Adding even more variety..thats why she accpomlished so much at end..I think key is to keep learning new things and using them deftly to keep your opponent guessing most of the times..Sania is learning new things too..New serve,slice backhand,points construction,movement is bit better(she just started competing on this level so will take time for her to actually use everything eventually)..Sharpy is a very good player as of now just dont see her improving much as of now..Where as justine :worship: :worship:

worst post of the day.

Reuchlin
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:30 AM
Oh boohoo, Congratulations for Sharapova surviving without her mother in a world Class Tennis Academy in Florida...Sania grew up in Hyderabad, India...no where near the opportunites that Sharapova had. Sharapova's "amazing" story is so over blown and tiresome. You can't even compare the upbringing of these two...

unless you've been with Maria every step of the way--- please don't judge. How do you know Sania's family wasn't the 1% of the population that owns 90% of India's wealth? :tape: :tape:

tennisrox
Mar 19th, 2006, 06:50 AM
if there is so much wrist action as everybody says, who long is she going to stay injury free?

Very good question.I myself was wondering how some players can appear to subject their wrists to such strain, yet not suffer from serious tendonitis.
The forehand came to her naturally, and she has had this wrist-snap for years, and has never had any serious injuries even before she had a fitness regime.
Some players have very strong wrists,and exceptional co-ordination between the opposing muscular groups of the forearm which brings about the movements at the wrist joint. This minimises the shearing stresses placed on the joint during extreme movements, and as a result the movements at her wrist are quite smooth and economical. Trying to copy that wrist-action would probably cause serious injuries. For her its natural.

Krystell
Mar 19th, 2006, 07:12 AM
Oh boohoo, Congratulations for Sharapova surviving without her mother in a world Class Tennis Academy in Florida...Sania grew up in Hyderabad, India...no where near the opportunites that Sharapova had. Sharapova's "amazing" story is so over blown and tiresome. You can't even compare the upbringing of these two...

I'm sorry but I don't think being born and raised until age 9 in SIBERIA could be all that more pleasant than being from India! Sania must have had some opportunities, or she wouldn't be a famous tennis player with millions of dollars in endorsements by now even though she's won nearly nothing. So boohoo to you and your phony poor Sania rant.. it doesn't wash.

Krystell
Mar 19th, 2006, 07:24 AM
Oh boohoo, Congratulations for Sharapova surviving without her mother in a world Class Tennis Academy in Florida...Sania grew up in Hyderabad, India...no where near the opportunites that Sharapova had. Sharapova's "amazing" story is so over blown and tiresome. You can't even compare the upbringing of these two...


Okay , I just did a little bit of checking. Looks like your girl Sania had plenty of opportunities in India, since her parents were both educated, her father was at one time a sports journalist and later became a professional builder and is not poor, she was hand picked by Mahesh Bhupati, the very successful doubles player, to be coached and learn at the Bhupati academy when she was a young girl, and she had a sponsor, an Indian business group, that paid her expenses starting when she was 13 years old. sounds like to me Sania had plenty of help and opportunities in India, and later when she went to the United States and trained at an American Academy. :tape: :lol: And you want to think about overblown, Sania's hype is way overblown at this time unless she wins something or at least makes a final soon.

Apoorv
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:01 AM
coaches in Bhupathi acedemy were not very good. they could not even notice a flaw in her serve. also there is a difference in regular coaching and a short stint under some coach. its true sania was lucky to get the above helps, thats why she is able to get on world stage. others in india do not even get this and are stuck playing national level tournies only.

Zauber
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:17 AM
no comparison
ignorant or self-serving question?
two different leagues and levels. ...........

Jakeev
Mar 19th, 2006, 11:44 AM
I'm just gonna echo what some people have already said. There is NOOOOOO comparison between those two players.

At this point, Maria is dozens of levels above Mirza and probably will be for sometime unless Sania dedicates herself fully to developing her game and gets in greater shape.

genius
Mar 19th, 2006, 12:59 PM
And you want to think about overblown, Sania's hype is way overblown at this time unless she wins something or at least makes a final soon.

Hypes are based on potential of the player's games.So many people misunderStand this simple thing. Expecting Results for players with incomplete games is basically ignorance . Because the results do not necessarily indicate where they would stand when they complete their games and evolve as a human being. Hence results are really credible and accurate for established players who do not have much upside potential in their games.

A case in point.Hewitt YEC ,No1 and 2 GS prior to 2003 with a full slate against Federer.Federer faltering in one key match after another,especially after beating pete at wimbledon. whats the case now? :lol: ..get the drift!!

So enough of this results business. If player improves his/her game and related aspects, results will take care of itself. Its as simple.

genius
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:19 PM
sounds like to me Sania had plenty of help and opportunities in India, and later when she went to the United States and trained at an American Academy. :tape: :lol:

what is the american academy may i ask? AFAIK, her two quality stints were at Bob brett academies for two stints of 3/4 weeks each and another with tony roche last year for 3 weeks again.

The point you are missing is the case is not that she was poor by indian standards.Indeed she was lucky compared to a few other indian girls.Its that coaching of the quality present in US or australia is only a dream for indians.Especially sania had a faulty service action for a decade now and not one indian coach recognised or corrected a basic mistake until it was too late.

saniarox
Mar 21st, 2006, 01:22 AM
How about Maria is better at everything?


he who laugh's last, laugh's best. remember that !
we will see 3-4 yrs from now where sania stands against sharapova.

even hingis and dementieva raved about sania's FH shot. i remember u once said if davenport's FH is 100, sania's FH is about 20. that shows ur ignorance.

pcrtennis
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:22 AM
:o unless you've been with Maria every step of the way--- please don't judge. How do you know Sania's family wasn't the 1% of the population that owns 90% of India's wealth? :tape: :tape:


Because her family wasn't wealthy...and stop trying to make clever comments regarding India...it's not convincing or impressive:rolleyes:

pcrtennis
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:25 AM
I'm sorry but I don't think being born and raised until age 9 in SIBERIA could be all that more pleasant than being from India! Sania must have had some opportunities, or she wouldn't be a famous tennis player with millions of dollars in endorsements by now even though she's won nearly nothing. So boohoo to you and your phony poor Sania rant.. it doesn't wash.


Living conditions in Nyagan, Russia are not desperate...it's not some backwards third world city just because it's in Siberia...

And assuming things about life in Hyderabad, India for a female athlete shows your lack of knowledge...just keep quiet. :) ;)

Ryan
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:34 AM
:o


Because her family wasn't wealthy...and stop trying to make clever comments regarding India...it's not convincing or impressive:rolleyes:


Shut the fuck up dillhole, you got PWNED by Krystell!

bellascarlett
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:38 AM
he who laugh's last, laugh's best. remember that !
we will see 3-4 yrs from now where sania stands against sharapova.


We will see...we will see. Oh I can't wait! :bigclap: How old will Maria be by then? about 22/23...same age as Kim/Justine are now. I really believe we haven't seen peak Sharapova. Despite her high level now, there is still a lot of potential waiting to be realized. Maria is just starting to come into her own and seemingly continues to improve every few months. If she stays healthy and does not sustain career-threatening and career-hampering injuries, Maria's future is very bright.

saniarox
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:13 AM
We will see...we will see. Oh I can't wait! :bigclap: How old will Maria be by then? about 22/23...same age as Kim/Justine are now. I really believe we haven't seen peak Sharapova. Despite her high level now, there is still a lot of potential waiting to be realized. Maria is just starting to come into her own and seemingly continues to improve every few months.

oh, yeah, absolutely. theoretically maria can improve in so many things. she, obviously from what u say, has a lot of upside potential. i'm sure graf, seles, navratilova etc. never had maria's potential considering they never became all-round players. after all, graf never could volley like navratilova or navratilova never could hit a FH or become as fast as graf, seles could never do what graf or navratilova did.

but maria, she can become as good a serve/volley player as navratilova, or she can become as awesome a baseliner as monica seles, or she can become as good an athlete as graf, the options are endless. i'm waiting with bated breath to see the final version of maria. she will probably be the kind of player whose likes we will never see again.

ROFL !!! :lol: i guarantee you she will not be much different from what u r seeing now.

If she stays healthy and does not sustain career-threatening and career-hampering injuries, Maria's future is very bright.

that's a big 'if'. her stroke mechanics are faulty and it remains to be seen how she's gonna avoid further injuries considering she's suffering a long time from the pectoral injury.

Reuchlin
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:32 AM
that's a big 'if'. her stroke mechanics are faulty and it remains to be seen how she's gonna avoid further injuries considering she's suffering a long time from the pectoral injury.

Wow! what a low jab...almost like you're hoping for an injury. Shame on you.

saniarox
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:41 AM
Wow! what a low jab...almost like you're hoping for an injury. Shame on you.

shame on u to put words into my mouth. i'm not hoping for an injury by any means. it's just funny how people don't know enough about stroke mechanics to see that her FH is faulty, and is the cause of the injury.

in fact i'm hoping that sania gets to play maria again in a slam match in a yr or so, and shows people that she's as talented, and maybe more so, than maria.

Morrissey
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:54 AM
I think this is a very mean spirited thread. Yes Sharapova is an established top player but Sania is only 19. The girl just turned pro last year. Everyone develops at their own pace and own speed. I feel Sania does have talent and I definitely believe she can be top 10. I saw her play at the US OPEN and I was impressed. But I do agree that Sania in my mind just needs more experience she also needs more strategy. And I like that Sania is playing doubles. What Sania is going through is common for a player that had an explosive breakthrough year. Last year Sania really shot up the rankings from 230 to no. 31 I think last year. I believe Sania can be a force on the WTA but she needs a better serve, a better second serve, some patience and some fitness improvement and that's it. The girl is young and she's actually one of the lucky ones. Sania is rich.

tenn_ace
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:57 AM
I think this is a very mean spirited thread. .

It is what you make out of it. :wavey: :p

vogus
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:15 AM
It is what you make out of it. :wavey: :p


come on, you are smart enough to know that Marsha is hands down a better player than Mirza, and that's on top of Marsha having a 7-inch height advantage over her. What's your real agenda behind starting this thread?

tennisrox
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:22 AM
:o


Because her family wasn't wealthy...and stop trying to make clever comments regarding India...it's not convincing or impressive:rolleyes:

Sania is from an upper middle-class family. Very comfortable, but not wealthy.
Without sponsors who saw something worthwhile in her, she said she would not have been able to afford to become a tennis player.Anyway, her personal finances have little to do with the kind of facilities that were available to her as a young player. She grew up playing on potholed courts in india, which led to her developing flat feet.She did not have a proper fitness and diet regime till last year.No coach had the expertise to correct her flawed service action, until her recent stint with Roche. She didn't get wildcards to play in WTA events, so she played challengers for a bit longer than she had to.As for expert coaching before playing top level events, she spent a grand total of 6 weeks with Bob Brett. A far cry from growing up in an academy.They have both faced their own difficulties.

Can you all shut the fuck up with these comparisons? There is no comparison whatsoever.They are both COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!Anyone with a clue can see that.

Mightymirza
Mar 21st, 2006, 05:24 AM
Can you all shut the fuck up with these comparisons? There is no comparison whatsoever.They are both COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!Anyone with a clue can see that.
Agreed...Just go through all the posts(including mine :D i am saying) and this whole thread is a complete chaos :lol: :lol: They are such different players.. Came up from different conditions..Anyways time only will tell who reaches where...Actually saw improvements in sharapovas game in IW finals..Movement,defense,lobs,approach shots has definately got better. But as so many people said its just sanias 2nd year as a pro to sharpys nth(n much bigger than 2)..Plus they do have completely different strokes...BTW sania had a weak backhand before the few week stint with bob bret.. She picked her backhand since then..The girl is a quick learner..I hope she fulfils her potential..Give the girls time....time only has all the answers..Weall can just speculate :angel:

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Mar 21st, 2006, 07:27 AM
Becuse Maria is better than Sania.

msharafan
Mar 21st, 2006, 07:43 AM
sharapova is better now has won a slam is one of the most consistent on the tour and has the brightest future on the tour and has already been #1 need i go on?......

skanky~skanketta
Mar 21st, 2006, 09:28 AM
sania will improve soon. give her time.