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Haresh
Feb 24th, 2006, 12:23 PM
Every few years we have a bunch of teenage phenoms who break through on the tour... in the late 90's, the spice girls (hingis, venus, serena, anna) all came along at around the same time.... now we have ivanovic, golovin, vaidisova.... who are the current 10-12 years olds who are gonna be the next teen phenoms? anyone with any insight....

tenn_ace
Feb 24th, 2006, 12:25 PM
if ivanovic, golovin, vaidisova are phenoms, then Nastya Pavlyuchenkova is the next one. She won AO GS (Juniors) at the age 14.

Wiggly
Feb 24th, 2006, 12:30 PM
I think Ksenia Pervak, she won Petit As in 2005 or 2004 :)

Sharapova's_Boy
Feb 24th, 2006, 12:45 PM
I agree, Ksenia and Nastya. :worship:

Slumpsova
Feb 24th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Tamira Paszek & Caroline Wozniacki :D

pancake
Feb 24th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Ayumi Morita

10nisfanofruz
Feb 24th, 2006, 01:14 PM
Maria Kirilenko ;)

mat87to
Feb 24th, 2006, 01:14 PM
Corinna Dentoni for Italy

Slumpsova
Feb 24th, 2006, 01:14 PM
oh i just realized that you mentioned 10-12 y/o girls. i don't know them but i heard Daria Sharapova was already hyped :tape:

SvetaPleaseWin.
Feb 24th, 2006, 01:20 PM
jade curtis :D

Sandra.P
Feb 24th, 2006, 02:24 PM
Michelle Larcher de Brito :)

Gonzo Hates Me!
Feb 24th, 2006, 02:43 PM
Every few years we have a bunch of teenage phenoms who break through on the tour... in the late 90's, the spice girls (hingis, venus, serena, anna) all came along at around the same time.... now we have ivanovic, golovin, vaidisova.... who are the current 10-12 years olds who are gonna be the next teen phenoms? anyone with any insight....

I think you use the word "phenom" quite loosely. You call greats like the Williams sisters and Martina phenoms, and then deteriorate the power of the word for Ivanovic and Golovin?

i hate to say this... but, golovin is far from a "phenom." She hasn't done anything spectacular yet. Does she even have a WTA title? Anyway, I am not trying to be mean, 'cause I like her a lot-- :hearts:, but she really hasn't had "phenom-enal" results

Ivanovic, I haven't followed closely. But she didn't do anything amazing at 16 or 17. She will be 19 soon, and she is still climbing--building her resume. I don't think she's a "phenom."

Sharapova has been the only teen "phenom..." and Kuznetsova... Remember her? Not Ivanovic and Golovin.

And I hate to say this, but Vaidisova looks to be the only one with "phenom" potential right now. Girl is on a roll and she has sheer determination. She has already won several tournaments, she is STILL 16. Maybe she will pull a surprise Grand Slam at 17 just like Masha. Now that would be phenomenal, but, I hope that doesn't happen. :p I hate to admit it, but she rocks.

tennisjay
Feb 24th, 2006, 02:59 PM
Every few years we have a bunch of teenage phenoms who break through on the tour... in the late 90's, the spice girls (hingis, venus, serena, anna) all came along at around the same time.... now we have ivanovic, golovin, vaidisova.... who are the current 10-12 years olds who are gonna be the next teen phenoms? anyone with any insight....

I use to call them Anna, Hingis, Serena, and Venus the four divas of tennis. For some reason those four were different from the girls today, they had something special that made the world focus on them, something that Maria and the other girls donít have today. I donít think we will ever see that again.

Orion
Feb 24th, 2006, 03:06 PM
Michelle Larcher de Brito :)

Yes! She's had remarkable results for only 12 years old. QF's of a huge 16's tournament? Wins over girls old enough to compete on the tour... She could be huge.

Stingray
Feb 24th, 2006, 03:11 PM
the Ren sisters are apparently good

Orion
Feb 24th, 2006, 03:13 PM
I use to call them Anna, Hingis, Serena, and Venus the four divas of tennis. For some reason those four were different from the girls today, they had something special that made the world focus on them, something that Maria and the other girls donít have today. I donít think we will ever see that again.

What made those four so interesting was that they were all so different, yet they had very similar attitudes towards the media. They were four of the most publicized players, both because of physical attributes and because they were great players.

There was the Hingis-Kournikova publicity rivalry, but they still played amazing doubles together. There was the sister act, the question over which of them would be #1 first, which of them would win a slam first, which was the better player. There was the stylistic differences in their doubles rivalry: the weak, serve-less doubles of Kournikova and Hingis that employed dropshots and volleying at its best, and the Williams' sisters remarkable doubles play. In my opinion, they are both better as a team than on their own. And of course the constant media questions: would Kournikova ever win a title (no), would Hingis be able to compete with the best in the world (sort of), would Venus ever break through (eventually), would Serena get out of Venus' shadow (eventually)...? One of the best times for tennis, in my opinion.

-sugi-
Feb 24th, 2006, 03:17 PM
Morita :smooch:

Kunal
Feb 24th, 2006, 03:17 PM
Every few years we have a bunch of teenage phenoms who break through on the tour... in the late 90's, the spice girls (hingis, venus, serena, anna) all came along at around the same time.... now we have ivanovic, golovin, vaidisova.... who are the current 10-12 years olds who are gonna be the next teen phenoms? anyone with any insight....


ahmm golovin, vaidisova and iva are really not even close to being called phenoms.

need to use that word wisely

Orion
Feb 24th, 2006, 03:19 PM
I just checked on Michelle Larcher de Brito's record, and it's impressive. She won the Portuguese 12 and under championships at 9 years old, she won the 16 and under Edie Herr (!!!) at 12 years old, she won three 18 and under tournaments at 12 and 13 years old.

She's only 13 and she competes on the 18 and under circuit. Talk about phenom in the making.

Maryamator
Feb 24th, 2006, 03:35 PM
karatantcheva

vogus
Feb 24th, 2006, 03:54 PM
I use to call them Anna, Hingis, Serena, and Venus the four divas of tennis. For some reason those four were different from the girls today, they had something special that made the world focus on them, something that Maria and the other girls donít have today. I donít think we will ever see that again.


The only one of the four i really took any liking toward is Serena. Back in the late 90s, for me, those four girls were all the same, they were dull, self-absorbed individuals with little of substance to offer. But all of them have suffered big-time come-downs.

Vaidisova, Golovin and Ivanovic have all failed to break through in a major way, so you can't really call them phenoms in the sense of the Spice Girls.

Slumpsova
Feb 24th, 2006, 04:02 PM
The only one of the four i really took any liking toward is Serena. Back in the late 90s, for me, those four girls were all the same, they were dull, self-absorbed individuals with little of substance to offer. But all of them have suffered big-time come-downs.

Vaidisova, Golovin and Ivanovic have all failed to break through in a major way, so you can't really call them phenoms in the sense of the Spice Girls.

oh well Anna "no title" Kournikova was a phenom BUT Ana "i beat Momo" Ivanovic and Nicole "5 titles" Vaidisova aren't? where is the standard? :shrug:

vogus
Feb 24th, 2006, 04:26 PM
oh well Anna "no title" Kournikova was a phenom BUT Ana "i beat Momo" Ivanovic and Nicole "5 titles" Vaidisova aren't? where is the standard? :shrug:


at age 16, Kournikova reached Wimby semis, as well as the Miami final which is the most important tournie outside the Grand Slams. Those two achievements early in Anna's career were huge, and dwarf anything that Vaidisova has done.

tennisjay
Feb 24th, 2006, 04:32 PM
at age 16, Kournikova reached Wimby semis, as well as the Miami final which is the most important tournie outside the Grand Slams. Those two achievements early in Anna's career were huge, and dwarf anything that Vaidisova has done.


So true.

Slumpsova
Feb 24th, 2006, 04:43 PM
at age 16, Kournikova reached Wimby semis, as well as the Miami final which is the most important tournie outside the Grand Slams. Those two achievements early in Anna's career were huge, and dwarf anything that Vaidisova has done.

so let's blame AER. in Kournikova's age, junior players can play as much as they want and that costs them an experience on a real tour. but these days a lot of promising players are allowed to play only 17-18 tournaments per year. i don't think it's good idea when you are about to start pro career. so that's why you can't compare the spice girls to these kids.

CrossCourt~Rally
Feb 24th, 2006, 04:48 PM
Vana King and Alexa Glatch ( when she recovers from her broken arm ) :bounce:

PatrickRyan
Feb 24th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Maria Kirelinko is the biggest phenom right now

Derek.
Feb 24th, 2006, 05:37 PM
jade curtis :D

:spit:

Sandra.P
Feb 24th, 2006, 10:37 PM
I just checked on Michelle Larcher de Brito's record, and it's impressive. She won the Portuguese 12 and under championships at 9 years old, she won the 16 and under Edie Herr (!!!) at 12 years old, she won three 18 and under tournaments at 12 and 13 years old.

She's only 13 and she competes on the 18 and under circuit. Talk about phenom in the making.

Yes it's impressive, but she's still so young and a lot can change in a few years, so I try not to keep my hopes to high :)

alwayshingis
Feb 24th, 2006, 10:52 PM
I agree with what some posters said earlier. What Made Martina/Anna/Venus/Serena so interesting was that they were so different. They all created their different camps from the get go, and as you can see from this board they still exist and are just as strong to this day. The problem with Sharapova coming up is that she didn't have anyone else of equal age and differening personality who played as well as she does to compete against. She was just putting herself up against the old guard.

We won't see that same M/A/V/S thing with the new Nicole Ana Tati group because they are all so similar in my opinion. Unfortunately, we are entering the age of the Bollettieri (Stepford) players. None of these newer girls separate themselves from each other in terms of their personalities. Part of this problem is that players are too scared to say anything that might provoke the press. As we see Martina, Serena, and to a lesser extent Venus, are not afraid to say whatever comes to mind to the press. The thing that could have stemmed this tide was actually Karatantcheva. She was honest and entertaining, but got bit by the drug bug.

As far as the question at hand, I've never seen any of these 10-12 girls play, so I'm really not qualified to judge.

SM
Feb 24th, 2006, 10:55 PM
Sophie Fergusson. She took a set from Nadia Petrova once:D

SM
Feb 24th, 2006, 10:56 PM
also Holly Cao :)

SM
Feb 24th, 2006, 10:57 PM
and Dragana Jakovljevic

watch out tour :D

morningglory
Feb 24th, 2006, 11:00 PM
:lol: Maria S is still a teen you know? :lol:
the next one...? hmmmm Nicky is my best bet

Farina Elia Fan
Feb 24th, 2006, 11:32 PM
jade curtis :D



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

so.krist!na
Feb 24th, 2006, 11:35 PM
Caroline Wozniacki
Tamira Paszek
Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
and Pliskova sisters...
Michelle Larcher de Brito is very good,too..

HTE
Feb 25th, 2006, 08:12 AM
it's quite funny that the OP asks a question about 10-12 yo talents, and some of you try to turn this into a bashing thread against Golovin, Vaidisova etc. :retard:

Anyway in Denmark one of our next big talents could be Stefanie Jolak (born in 94) she usually doublebagels her opponents, sometimes she's nice and give them a few games. I never seen her play so it's hard to say how good she's going to be.

fredbdx
Feb 25th, 2006, 11:02 AM
it's quite funny that the OP asks a question about 10-12 yo talents, and some of you try to turn this into a bashing thread against Golovin, Vaidisova etc. :retard:

Anyway in Denmark one of our next big talents could be Stefanie Jolak (born in 94) she usually doublebagels her opponents, sometimes she's nice and give them a few games. I never seen her play so it's hard to say how good she's going to be.

ALEXUS JONES :baby:

Ace effect
Feb 25th, 2006, 11:41 AM
Irena Pavlovic!!!I'm very patriotic! ;)

*hingis_forever*
Feb 26th, 2006, 03:27 AM
Jennifer and Jessica Ren
Jessica especially. She's only 11, born August 1994 and is around #70 in the Tennis Europe under 14 rankings. In the Winter Team Cup a ciuple weeks ago she beat last year's U12 Orange Bowl runner up, Blazena Lukac. I suppose this wouldn't mean anything to most people seeing as they've probably never heard of these people! :D

aussie_stars
Feb 26th, 2006, 07:41 AM
What made those four so interesting was that they were all so different, yet they had very similar attitudes towards the media. They were four of the most publicized players, both because of physical attributes and because they were great players.

There was the Hingis-Kournikova publicity rivalry, but they still played amazing doubles together. There was the sister act, the question over which of them would be #1 first, which of them would win a slam first, which was the better player. There was the stylistic differences in their doubles rivalry: the weak, serve-less doubles of Kournikova and Hingis that employed dropshots and volleying at its best, and the Williams' sisters remarkable doubles play. In my opinion, they are both better as a team than on their own. And of course the constant media questions: would Kournikova ever win a title (no), would Hingis be able to compete with the best in the world (sort of), would Venus ever break through (eventually), would Serena get out of Venus' shadow (eventually)...? One of the best times for tennis, in my opinion.

agree fully. Those 4 made tennis so interesting and exciting and they were able to bring so many new fans to the sport.

Brett.
Feb 26th, 2006, 09:07 AM
Watch out for Soph - she's going to be a real threat to any players :) she's 19

So Disrespectful
Feb 26th, 2006, 09:24 AM
Watch out for Soph - she's going to be a real threat to any players :) she's 19

I think you're right- and I hope you're right! :worship:

patricktav2003
Feb 27th, 2006, 06:48 PM
Michelle Larcher de Brito
so promising!!