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Modiac.
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:28 AM
Nice win,Martina!~ :lick:
Hope u can back in top10 soon!

Anastasia saved 3 MPs,and had a BP,but she didn't catch it. :sad:

Sam L
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:29 AM
Myskina is almost a top ten player. Martina's shown that she's a top player now. No doubt.

Taz Warrior
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:30 AM
Great win for Martina :bounce:

azmad_88
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:31 AM
the only ace for hingis at 5th mp

Dementinator
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:32 AM
Damn Blast and Buckets of runny Poo! Well looks like there is only One Russina so far who can paste Hinigis ,and it aint Myskina! bad luck maybe next time....and as the late great Oscar Wilde once said....

FUCK IT ALL!

vettipooh
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:32 AM
Marti!!!!:banana: :hearts: Nastya :rolleyes: for not even a 3 setter or tiebreak..hopefully next time!

AjdeNate!
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:33 AM
Wow, good show Martina!

Maria Croft
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:34 AM
ah that's too bad, she had her chances too

Nicky2002
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:35 AM
congrats Martina :kiss:

azmad_88
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:35 AM
2nd top 20 win i think

hablo
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:36 AM
Well done, Martina :yeah:

Too bad she had run out of gas after beating sharapova in Tokyo...

matthias
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:38 AM
congratulation Martina

Nasty :sad:

Cashif
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:39 AM
Go back where u belong Marti............To the top of rankings :banana:

Solitaire
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:39 AM
Martina :worship:

Barlos
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:39 AM
Nice performance from Martina, she was't at her best but did enough to beat Anastacia. I think Myskina was kinda patchy, she had good spells where she competed well with Martina but also hit too many balls into the net. I guess they were forced in a way though, with Martina pressurising her to hit winners.

Anyway, I hope Maria wins tonight so we can see a repeat of the Tokyo semi :)

CrossCourt~Rally
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:40 AM
congrats MARTINA! :worship: :bounce:

denine
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:40 AM
Nastya :sad:

nice job martina.

santhuruu
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:43 AM
congratulations to hingis!

The Pro
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:43 AM
I love Myskina in all her certifiable glory, but I love Hingis more, so :banana: :banana:

Porcupine
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:44 AM
OK try hard next time Nastya :)
You played well Martina.

Billabong
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:45 AM
YEAH Congrats Martina:banana: Well done, awesome win:yeah::worship:!!! Now keep it up girl, GOOOOOOO MARTINAAAAAAA:bounce:!!!!!!!!!!!

Dementinator
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:46 AM
Well done, Martina :yeah:

Too bad she had run out of gas after beating sharapova in Tokyo...


Bollocks! she didnt run out of gas ,she got beat ,fair and square , Myskina hasnt the weapons Elenas got ,nor the physical power ,so none of that "aww she was tired" bullshit please ,she got THRASHED ,like she did the 2 times before when they played ,but of course ,Elena CANT possibly have played well ,Hingis HAD to be tired of course ,such shite!

Hinigis is the best tactition out there and great at net ,but she WILL struggle against the big strong Baseliners that CAN move ,unlike Masha whos like a Dock Crane rooted to the spot..anyways bad luck Nastya..

~Carsten~
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:47 AM
:( oh no I hoped that Anastasia can beat Martina!

well Congrats Martina! :)

Summer_Snow
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:48 AM
I love them both :worship:

That's why I dont know who to cheer for :sad:

Sam L
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:48 AM
Bollocks! she didnt run out of gas ,she got beat ,fair and square , Myskina hasnt the weapons Elenas got ,nor the physical power ,so none of that "aww she was tired" bullshit please ,she got THRASHED ,like she did the 2 times before when they played ,but of course ,Elena CANT possibly have played well ,Hingis HAD to be tired of course ,such shite!

Hinigis is the best tactition out there and great at net ,but she WILL struggle against the big strong Baseliners that CAN move ,unlike Masha whos like a Dock Crane rooted to the spot..anyways bad luck Nastya..
Martina had been playing about 3 weeks of consecutive tennis by the time she reached the final in Tokyo.

Elena had 2 weeks off before Tokyo due to her appearance in Melbourne. :tape:

Martina was definitely tired: physically and emotionally.

jochem
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:48 AM
Hingis is playing better than expected but isn't it a bad thing that Hingis is having such an easy time with her comeback... it says something about women's tennis but this is mentioned so many times already... I just don't understand how Myskina is almost top 10 and not even able to win more than seven games against a (admit: great) players that hasn't played for over 3 years... Everytime Myskina comes up with a story like: "Oh I'm playing so much better again" she fails to come up with good play. Remember beginning of 2005 season she said during Hopman Cup she would be no.1 soon and afterwards she plays like crap. Ofcourse she had the illness of her mother which obviously affected her, but now this interview shows she needs to stop saying she is playing much better but actually do it... Where is her brilliant game that brought her all the way to RG final and win it! I was hoping that after 2005 season she would try to get back to her 2004 level, maybe it's because the season is still short or maybe she simply belongs outside the top 20 losing to top 10 players in every tournament she enters. We will see about all of this in the next couple of months, I still have hope and support but it would just be nice to see her play like one of the best again. Go Nastya!!!!

Billabong
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:50 AM
anyways bad luck Nastya..

Sorry but you ruined your post with your last sentence:rolleyes: You defend Dementieva, saying she beat Martina fair and square, but then you say Nastya had bad luck:rolleyes: It's your turn to admitt she got beaten fair and square:rolleyes:

Sam L
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:50 AM
Martina had been playing about 3 weeks of consecutive tennis by the time she reached the final in Tokyo.

Elena had 2 weeks off before Tokyo due to her appearance in Melbourne. :tape:

Martina was definitely tired: physically and emotionally.

wateva
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:50 AM
:sad: poor nastya...
looks like her 2004 form is gone... :bigcry:
well done martina!

louisa2k2
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:54 AM
Go martina good win but going from 4-0 up to then win 6-4 scared me :( pls dnt do that again :)

lynch79
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:56 AM
Good win Martina!

Timariot
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:58 AM
Hingis is playing better than expected but isn't it a bad thing that Hingis is having such an easy time with her comeback... it says something about women's tennis but this is mentioned so many times already...

But that's not a bad thing, it is a good thing, hopefully it will open the eyes about the shallowness of modern "depth"...

Sam L
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:01 PM
But that's not a bad thing, it is a good thing, hopefully it will open the eyes about the shallowness of modern "depth"...
WRONG! We're not talking about any ordinary tennis player here. We're talking about MARTINA HINGIS. Just because she come backs and wins consistently doesn't mean the tour doesn't have depth. This was a player that was mentally slumping and eventually physically injured from 2000-02. She's gone away and worked on those problems and she's back. She's back in grand slam winning form.

denine
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:06 PM
:sad: poor nastya...
looks like her 2004 form is gone... :bigcry:
well done martina!
like long ago.. :o

Dementinator
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:07 PM
Sorry but you ruined your post with your last sentence:rolleyes: You defend Dementieva, saying she beat Martina fair and square, but then you say Nastya had bad luck:rolleyes: It's your turn to admitt she got beaten fair and square:rolleyes:


A figure of speech for gods sake ,yes Hingis beat her fair and square ,I dint say otherwise ,dont be anally retentive!

Well obviously Hingis was tired the last two times Elena creamed her ass also ,whatever ,I saw the match at Tokyo ,nothing Hingis could do ,just too much power and too good ,but of course I guess Elenas always crap so that cant have been the case...

I expected Hinigis to win and she did ,no suprise...

crazyroberto6767
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:07 PM
Awesome job Marti! Good luck in the next round :yeah:

:sad: Nastya

Meelis
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:11 PM
Well done, Martina!

jochem
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:11 PM
WRONG! We're not talking about any ordinary tennis player here. We're talking about MARTINA HINGIS. Just because she come backs and wins consistently doesn't mean the tour doesn't have depth. This was a player that was mentally slumping and eventually physically injured from 2000-02. She's gone away and worked on those problems and she's back. She's back in grand slam winning form.

No, I don't really agree. Ofcourse it is MARTINA HINGIS and she is playing great, but there is still definately something wrong. Last year was a great year for WTA but maybe this year all the players are injured again or too much focused on off court activities. It just can't be Hingis comes back and beats a top 11 player 6-4 6-3, sorry. Well maybe it says even more about Myskina herself...

Dementirilenko
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:12 PM
Nastya!!!!!!

Timariot
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:13 PM
WRONG! We're not talking about any ordinary tennis player here. We're talking about MARTINA HINGIS. Just because she come backs and wins consistently doesn't mean the tour doesn't have depth. This was a player that was mentally slumping and eventually physically injured from 2000-02.

Really? And I thought she was playing better than ever then, it was just that game had passed her by...at least that's what all the "experts" here claimed just few months ago... :rolleyes:

Dementinator
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:14 PM
Myskina hasnt been playing like a top 11 player for some time ,more like a top 30 player really ,but Hinigis also beat Sharapova ,a top 4 player ,even easier ,but then MS has always been overated really ,Also a lot of top players are not used to Hingis type of game ,but they will learn ,If Hingis beats Davenport or Momo or Kim,or Justine or Even Elena ,then that will be something ,as it is ,shes doing pretty well.

*Jool*
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:16 PM
congrats Martina :yeah:

Sam L
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:16 PM
Myskina hasnt been playing like a top 11 player for some time ,more like a top 30 player really ,but Hinigis also beat Sharapova ,a top 4 player ,even easier ,but then MS has always been overated really ,Also a lot of top players are not used to Hingis type of game ,but they will learn ,If Hingis beats Davenport or Momo or Kim,or Justine or Even Elena ,then that will be something ,as it is ,shes doing pretty well.
Didn't Myskina stretch Dementieva to 6-4 in the third in Tokyo? Yeah top 30 player. :rolleyes:

migi
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:18 PM
Go martina good win but going from 4-0 up to then win 6-4 scared me :( pls dnt do that again :)
It was scary for that . Leading 4-0 but won the set at 6-4. It should be
6-2 for 1st set . Something happened in HIngis`s mind. ?

hwanmig
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:20 PM
Better luck next week to Anastasia. Anyway Martina will probably make a better Qf considering how Anastasia blows against Amelie.

jes_022
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:21 PM
It was scary for that . Leading 4-0 but won the set at 6-4. It should be
6-2 for 1st set . Something happened in HIngis`s mind. ?

Yeah, she thought of you and decided to lose the next 4 games to give you another reason to start a few lovely threads about her.

Good win, Marti :yeah:

Martian KC
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:22 PM
Amidst a win, migi still has something to critisize her about?:lol: :kiss: I think I'm in love.:hearts:

Dementinator
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:22 PM
Didn't Myskina stretch Dementieva to 6-4 in the third in Tokyo? Yeah top 30 player. :rolleyes:


Stretching ELena to 3 sets is something that a top 90 player does sometimes ,and Elena always has trouble with Myskina..

mr-bean007
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:24 PM
:woohoo: :bounce:

Sam L
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:26 PM
It's amazing the excuses some posters will come up with. :rolleyes:

It's funny how Hingis is leading Dementieva in the Race. :tape:

Dementinator
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:30 PM
i must be missing something? whos been dissing Hinigis then? not fucking me!

I just get annoyed when some say the only reason she lost in Tokyo was she was tired ,to anyone who saw the match would know ,that wasnt the reason...give Elena SOME credit for playing a great match...and Hinigis won this match by outplaying Mayskina ,exactly what i thought would happen ,so what fucking excuses are you damn well on about?

Tennisfan-Mtl
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:31 PM
Marti :worship:

Foot's Fingers
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:37 PM
Nastya :hug:

iine:
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:43 PM
Nastya :bigcry: I really thought you would win against Hingis. :sad: Anyway, great fight in the end. ;) .. Hope you can soon find that form from 2004. :yeah:

AlexB
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:43 PM
why couldnt hingis come back in '04 when Nastya was on? anyway hingis won, but i want a rematch!

alfonsojose
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:44 PM
Martina :yeah: Now SFarapova :devil:

~Cherry*Blossom~
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:47 PM
Damn you Hingis, stop beating my faves :fiery: :lol:

Unlucky Myskina :(

Carsten
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:47 PM
Martina :) nice win!

Sam L
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:48 PM
i must be missing something? whos been dissing Hinigis then? not fucking me!

I just get annoyed when some say the only reason she lost in Tokyo was she was tired ,to anyone who saw the match would know ,that wasnt the reason...give Elena SOME credit for playing a great match...and Hinigis won this match by outplaying Mayskina ,exactly what i thought would happen ,so what fucking excuses are you damn well on about?
No one's taking the match or tournament away from Elena. I like her a lot too. But denying that Hingis was tired is just too foolish. She doesn't lose 6-2 6-0 unless under extraordinary circumstances.

Justine (the form player of this year) before injury struck her down could only beat Hingis 6-3 6-3. Clijsters took 3 sets to beat Martina. Elena hasn't been playing better than Clijsters and certainly not Justine.

Of course, Elena might just play very well against Martina and her game matches against her well but there were other factors involved. That's all.

No one's taking anything away from Elena.

migi
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:49 PM
Damn you Hingis, stop beating my faves :fiery: :lol:

Unlucky Myskina :(
Hingis is going to work out with big mucsle bicips like you.

dinhd82
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:54 PM
I knew you could do it Martina, I'm glad you silenced that #*$#)!!! If only you would have double bagelled her but that's okay, a win is a win and straights is very good, you'll need to conserve all your energy for later rounds. Now go and bagel Sharapova!!!!

Ryan
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:55 PM
Good girl Marti, you won by the EXACT score I predicted. :cool: Best of luck against Sharapova in the Quarters, hopefully your level of play improves.


:sad: Nastya, good luck next week in Doha.

dinhd82
Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:56 PM
Myskina hasnt been playing like a top 11 player for some time ,more like a top 30 player really ,but Hinigis also beat Sharapova ,a top 4 player ,even easier ,but then MS has always been overated really ,Also a lot of top players are not used to Hingis type of game ,but they will learn ,If Hingis beats Davenport or Momo or Kim,or Justine or Even Elena ,then that will be something ,as it is ,shes doing pretty well.

God you're so annoying. but but but but but...go away and stop raining on my Martina's parade!!

lukehingis
Feb 22nd, 2006, 01:25 PM
well done, Martina... another quality win... now to face maria again...(probably)

tough draw, nastya... good luck for the next tournament

SelesFan70
Feb 22nd, 2006, 01:28 PM
OK try hard next time Nastya :)
You played well Martina.

Re: Your avatar...

O-U-T :lol:

Martina! :banana:

No Name Face
Feb 22nd, 2006, 01:47 PM
No one's taking the match or tournament away from Elena. I like her a lot too. But denying that Hingis was tired is just too foolish. She doesn't lose 6-2 6-0 unless under extraordinary circumstances.

Justine (the form player of this year) before injury struck her down could only beat Hingis 6-3 6-3. Clijsters took 3 sets to beat Martina. Elena hasn't been playing better than Clijsters and certainly not Justine.

Of course, Elena might just play very well against Martina and her game matches against her well but there were other factors involved. That's all.

No one's taking anything away from Elena.

be that as it may, hingis had just destroyed maria 6-3, 6-1 in the semis. if she had actually fought in that match, then i'd be more likely to believe she was exhausted. fact is, lena had one of her on days. i don't think there's any player (except serena in her prime) that could have taken her out in that final. she was too good. and plus, her game matches up extremely well against hingis.

anyway, congrats hingis, :sad: to nastya.

it's funny how tennis works. elena owns martina, nastya owns elena (most of the time), and martina owns nastya. no logical continuity.

Carmen Mairena
Feb 22nd, 2006, 01:51 PM
Anastasia :awww: :hug:

Martina, well done! :yeah:

cheo23
Feb 22nd, 2006, 01:52 PM
LMFAO@some of the posters

Anyways, OMG!!!! CONGRATULATIONS MARTINA HINGIS!!!!!!!!!:woohoo: :bigclap:
:yeah: MARTINA HINGIS = a BEAUTIFUL GAME!!!!!!!!!!



I knew she could win but not in STRAIGHT SETS.....now GO DEFEAT MISS MARIA SHARAPOVA AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but TRY NOT TO BAGEL HER...I want her to at least WIN A COUPLE OF GAMES :lol:

WOW, winnin this match on an ACE!!!!!!!!:yeah: :woohoo:

SO WHAT IS HER RANKING NOW?????????????

jonny84
Feb 22nd, 2006, 01:54 PM
Well done Martina! Another QF on your comeback, and another rise in the rankings! She will soon be back in the Top10!!

MakarovaFan
Feb 22nd, 2006, 02:33 PM
be that as it may, hingis had just destroyed maria 6-3, 6-1 in the semis. if she had actually fought in that match, then i'd be more likely to believe she was exhausted. fact is, lena had one of her on days. i don't think there's any player (except serena in her prime) that could have taken her out in that final. she was too good. and plus, her game matches up extremely well against hingis.

anyway, congrats hingis, :sad: to nastya.

it's funny how tennis works. elena owns martina, nastya owns elena (most of the time), and martina owns nastya. no logical continuity.


Wow so just because she won this match,she owns her!!Last i checked Myskina won there last encounter,6-0 in the 3rd!!!

Billabong
Feb 22nd, 2006, 02:39 PM
I agree, Martina definitely doesn't own Myskina (the H2H is 2-1).. and Dementieva still doesn't own Martina, even though their last 3 matches were very easy, the record is still 3-2..

Bezz
Feb 22nd, 2006, 02:45 PM
Congrats martina! :) , they best not put her next match on when i am at work!

cometz9
Feb 22nd, 2006, 03:28 PM
Martina :banana: now take out Maria just like u did in Tokyo :devil:

Chrissie-fan
Feb 22nd, 2006, 03:38 PM
Hingis is playing better than expected but isn't it a bad thing that Hingis is having such an easy time with her comeback... it says something about women's tennis but this is mentioned so many times already...

Yeah, well, John McEnroe comes back as a 47 year old to play doubles and immediately wins the first tournament he competes in. That doesn't mean that there are no good male players, it means that McEnroe is THAT good. What McEnroe does now is the equivalent of what Navrailova does on the women's tour.

Ok, it's doubles and not singles, but if Federer would leave the game for a few years I think he could make a successful comeback too, simply because he's got something special. Hingis is special too. :angel:

Kunal
Feb 22nd, 2006, 03:41 PM
let the impressive form continue tina

Kunal
Feb 22nd, 2006, 03:45 PM
who she play nex?

nouf
Feb 22nd, 2006, 03:55 PM
hqs:

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nouf
Feb 22nd, 2006, 04:03 PM
hqs

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xXSarajevoXx
Feb 22nd, 2006, 04:10 PM
Martina :yeah: but Nastja :sad:

frenchie
Feb 22nd, 2006, 04:12 PM
I just discovered the result!!!!
Nothing more to add

irinska
Feb 22nd, 2006, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the pics., Nouf!

Niunia
Feb 22nd, 2006, 04:32 PM
God job ! Win your next match!!!!

junlee_vee
Feb 22nd, 2006, 04:36 PM
Wow, how surprising. :rolleyes:

I find it hard to believe so many people thought Myskina was going to win this match. Mentally unstable players do not fare well against Hingis.

Corswandt
Feb 22nd, 2006, 05:53 PM
No one's taking the match or tournament away from Elena. I like her a lot too. But denying that Hingis was tired is just too foolish. She doesn't lose 6-2 6-0 unless under extraordinary circumstances.

Justine (the form player of this year) before injury struck her down could only beat Hingis 6-3 6-3. Clijsters took 3 sets to beat Martina. Elena hasn't been playing better than Clijsters and certainly not Justine.

Of course, Elena might just play very well against Martina and her game matches against her well but there were other factors involved. That's all.

No one's taking anything away from Elena.

1) Hingis showed no signs whatsoever of being tired at the Tokyo match. She moved well, and ran when she had to in the rallies. If she did indeed arrive late at many of Lena's shots, it was merely because Lena was consistently blasting 120-140kph long, accurate groundstrokes, and it's simply impossible for anyone to return all those shots and keep the rallies going for long.

2) Lena hasn't been consistently playing better than the Belgians this year, but it's undeniable that her performance in Tokyo was worthy of a Clijsters in her prime, but with more winners and even more power in the groundstrokes. Hingis has the most trouble, as Dementinator pointed out, with the players who are not only hard hitters but also good movers with a measure of touch. Hence, of the players she hasn't yet faced since her comeback, Hingis would likely do well against Davenport or maybe even Pierce, but not against, say, Mauresmo or a top-form Kuznetsova (according to those who have seen the latter in her prime). Petrova is somewhere in between and a headcase to boot, so I have no idea how that one could turn out to be.

selyoink
Feb 22nd, 2006, 06:00 PM
Stupid Nastya. Please do better at Doha.

fammmmedspin
Feb 22nd, 2006, 06:02 PM
Wow, how surprising. :rolleyes:

I find it hard to believe so many people thought Myskina was going to win this match. Mentally unstable players do not fare well against Hingis.

Nastya played pretty well by the end. she lost a lot of points at the ends of long rallies and hit UE when she needed not to - that counteracted her speed advantage. Martina could quite easily have lost. She didn't, because she doesn't give her opponent sets worth of UE, does win the last point in rallies, is managing to rally without running into a physical wall and doesn't hit 2 plus games worth of DF like many players Nastya would have beaten. Nastya wouldn't look amiss in the current top 10. Martina is probably good enough to beat all the ones who can't cope with her variety or who give her loads of free points or who can't hit through her - thats a very small number of top 10 players in any given week.

Pheobo
Feb 22nd, 2006, 06:07 PM
Ah...oh well. Good job Marti! :bounce:

Martian KC
Feb 22nd, 2006, 06:10 PM
Thanks so much, nouf!:D

fammmmedspin
Feb 22nd, 2006, 06:33 PM
1) Hingis showed no signs whatsoever of being tired at the Tokyo match. She moved well, and ran when she had to in the rallies. If she did indeed arrive late at many of Lena's shots, it was merely because Lena was consistently blasting 120-140kph long, accurate groundstrokes, and it's simply impossible for anyone to return all those shots and keep the rallies going for long.

2) Lena hasn't been consistently playing better than the Belgians this year, but it's undeniable that her performance in Tokyo was worthy of a Clijsters in her prime, but with more winners and even more power in the groundstrokes. Hingis has the most trouble, as Dementinator pointed out, with the players who are not only hard hitters but also good movers with a measure of touch. Hence, of the players she hasn't yet faced since her comeback, Hingis would likely do well against Davenport or maybe even Pierce, but not against, say, Mauresmo or a top-form Kuznetsova (according to those who have seen the latter in her prime). Petrova is somewhere in between and a headcase to boot, so I have no idea how that one could turn out to be.

Lindsay at her hitting best is an enormous challenge for Martina -question is if Lindsay can do that for 2 consecutive sets. Mary it depends on the day and how tired or in form Mary is. Justine and Kim are fast, powerful and varied enough to cause martina trouble - though their off day counts are rising. Momo is an unknown - is she really better than when she palyed Martina before - it wasn't clear who was best then? A top form Sveta hasn't been seen since USO 04 and even at that level she was beatable by a Henin or Myskina who play more like Hingis. Elena at her normal level doesn't play that well - she beat Myskina that week as well - normal Elena producing normal UE and DF counts will always be vulnerable to fellow smart players - jury is out if she can repeat that level.

Almalyk
Feb 22nd, 2006, 06:51 PM
Poor Nastya :( :Sad:
But well done Martina - at least your my second fav :)

SAEKeithSerena
Feb 22nd, 2006, 07:07 PM
what a great win for hingis. into the quarters!!!

patricktav2003
Feb 22nd, 2006, 07:48 PM
ueaaah so Hapy for Martina!!!!!
Nastya learn something today!!!
im loving mMartina chances more and more for RG of this year

Orion
Feb 22nd, 2006, 07:57 PM
1) Hingis showed no signs whatsoever of being tired at the Tokyo match. She moved well, and ran when she had to in the rallies. If she did indeed arrive late at many of Lena's shots, it was merely because Lena was consistently blasting 120-140kph long, accurate groundstrokes, and it's simply impossible for anyone to return all those shots and keep the rallies going for long.

2) Lena hasn't been consistently playing better than the Belgians this year, but it's undeniable that her performance in Tokyo was worthy of a Clijsters in her prime, but with more winners and even more power in the groundstrokes. Hingis has the most trouble, as Dementinator pointed out, with the players who are not only hard hitters but also good movers with a measure of touch. Hence, of the players she hasn't yet faced since her comeback, Hingis would likely do well against Davenport or maybe even Pierce, but not against, say, Mauresmo or a top-form Kuznetsova (according to those who have seen the latter in her prime). Petrova is somewhere in between and a headcase to boot, so I have no idea how that one could turn out to be.

Good post! I think the biggest factor in that match in Tokyo was that Dementieva finally hit her stride. She hasn't played consistently great matches very often in the past year, and she found a player that she has all the weapons to trouble. She didn't have to take the same risks as she would against a huge power player, because she could run down 90% of Hingis' shots, so she could really focus on hitting smarter groundies. It was some of the finer defensive tennis I've seen Dementieva play, and she converted to offense at optimal times. Definitely peak Clijsters performance worthy, without a great serve to boot. Dementieva hasn't looked that good since she beat Davenport at the USOpen.

As to who would/wouldn't trouble Hingis, I think you're spot on about everyone but Davenport. Davenport has actually improved her footspeed in the past 3 years, she was better in 2004 than I've ever seen her. Her groundstrokes and serve are still top 5 in every department. I'd imagine Hingis would make Pierce look silly unless she caught Pierce on one of those crazy days when she can miss-hit the ball and win the point, just because Pierce is still a slow mover and hasn't really improved that element of her game. The toughest to handle would be Mauresmo, Kuznetsova, Davenport, and of course Dementieva. In the long run, I could imagine Hingis causing headaches for Henin and Clijsters, but I doubt she'll be able to beat the four above consistently enough (like, QF-SF-F with three competitors from that group) to get back to the #1 ranking, but who knows?

Again, great post. Stay positive, I don't think anyone would want to diminish Dementieva's performance if there wasn't a little truth to it. Sure, Hingis was tired, which explains why she got WASTED, but she probably would have lost anyways. I agree with you on that.
:D

p.s. Corswandt, where did you get your user name? It sounds Welsh, am I correct?

Sharapova's_Boy
Feb 22nd, 2006, 08:07 PM
Nastya :sobbing:

Martina :worship:

adison-hingis
Feb 22nd, 2006, 08:08 PM
Yeah, I agree with Orion that Elena played such a great match against Hingis three weeks ago. She definitely deserved the title. Also, I believe that when players like Lindsay, Elena, Serena, Venus, Kim, or Justine are in thier grooves they will easily outplay Hingis on every point regardless how Hingis plays..But the question is that how long they can keep playing like that in the entire match? ..But Elena proved it last night.

RJWCapriati
Feb 22nd, 2006, 08:08 PM
Hingis heading for the top 5

Ryan
Feb 22nd, 2006, 08:10 PM
I think Davenport at this point will be the hardest person for Martina to beat. Lindsay is such a pure striker of the ball, even in 1998 when she was chubby Hingis struggled. Maybe I'm under-estimating Hingis, but I think Lindsay has too much for her right now. I think Dementieva played a great match at Tokyo, and Hingis played under-par compared to her Tokyo match against Sharapova. Schnyder, Petrova, Sharapova, might be easier to beat.

spencercarlos
Feb 22nd, 2006, 09:07 PM
Nastya played pretty well by the end. she lost a lot of points at the ends of long rallies and hit UE when she needed not to - that counteracted her speed advantage. Martina could quite easily have lost. She didn't, because she doesn't give her opponent sets worth of UE, does win the last point in rallies, is managing to rally without running into a physical wall and doesn't hit 2 plus games worth of DF like many players Nastya would have beaten. Nastya wouldn't look amiss in the current top 10. Martina is probably good enough to beat all the ones who can't cope with her variety or who give her loads of free points or who can't hit through her - thats a very small number of top 10 players in any given week.
Sorry but to beat Martina today, you have to play great tennis, she is making the girls play their best.
Its not easy as you said have to handle the variety, not to hit many errors and hit throught Martina.. again she is forcing the tour to play great tennis, to earn it.. as she described in her interview today.
The Dementieva match was an incredible performance by Elena, but Hingis gave her more errors than her normal average too. Still Elena would have crushed Hingis with that play. But... as you see you canīt play like that everyday.
Hingis is % tennis, im amazed how good she is doing, at this rate, she will be top 5 after Wimbledon as Bupathi said.

Havok
Feb 22nd, 2006, 09:08 PM
Martina :D. I don't see her beating Sharapova for a second straight time, but allez anyways!

LeRoy.
Feb 22nd, 2006, 09:26 PM
Sania took more games off Martina than Nastya or even Maria did :tape: and to think "she sucks" wonder what that says about the others :haha:

Robbie.
Feb 22nd, 2006, 09:30 PM
As predicted. i'm just so happy for Martina :bounce:

Robbie.
Feb 22nd, 2006, 09:36 PM
Btw, those saying that Hingis will have an easier time with Davenport than with some other players obviously have pretty short memories. Davenport was the first player to really dominate the rivalry with Hingis - I'd go as far as to say that she was her toughest opponent. Go and watch some tapes 1999-2000.

meyerpl
Feb 22nd, 2006, 09:39 PM
Well, at least I've stopped pounding my head against the wall.

Better days are ahead for Nastya.

Congratulations to Martina.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Feb 22nd, 2006, 09:57 PM
:D great match martina.

CooCooCachoo
Feb 22nd, 2006, 10:01 PM
:woohoo:

Corswandt
Feb 22nd, 2006, 11:53 PM
As to who would/wouldn't trouble Hingis, I think you're spot on about everyone but Davenport. Davenport has actually improved her footspeed in the past 3 years, she was better in 2004 than I've ever seen her. Her groundstrokes and serve are still top 5 in every department.

When I mentioned that Hingis might beat Davenport, my basis for that weren't past performances/H2H during their late nineties/early noughties rivalry, but rather Davenport's recent performances at the AO, which were erratic and streaky to say the least (truckloads of godawful UEs, and DFs at the worst possible moments mixed with cannonshot forehand winners and dozens of unreturnable serves). Davenport's mobility (or lack of) is still a problem, no matter how much she improved on that department - Masha moves faster than Davenport, and look what Hingis did to her (then again, most of Masha's problems at the Tokyo match were due to her incomprehensible inability to return Hingis' first serve).

But Davenport seems to be back at her top form, judging by the thrashing she gave to Likhovtseva, so I was probably reading too much into a few recent bad matches.

p.s. Corswandt, where did you get your user name? It sounds Welsh, am I correct?

I found this name on a book about the Napoleonic Wars, and later on a computer wargame. I don't remember exactly who this Corswandt was (an Allied general IIRC); I just like the way it sounds.

tennisbum79
Feb 23rd, 2006, 12:34 AM
Martina is for real.

And she will continue beating people like Myskina who just keep the ball in play.

The take no initiative, make no statement with their shots, just lay back hoping the other palyer will make mistakes.

So I am not surprised that Hingis beant Martina.

She enjoys toying with these passive players.

spencercarlos
Feb 23rd, 2006, 01:05 AM
Myskina hasnt been playing like a top 11 player for some time ,more like a top 30 player really ,but Hinigis also beat Sharapova ,a top 4 player ,even easier ,but then MS has always been overated really ,Also a lot of top players are not used to Hingis type of game ,but they will learn ,If Hingis beats Davenport or Momo or Kim,or Justine or Even Elena ,then that will be something ,as it is ,shes doing pretty well.
Beating Dementieva would meant a lot less than beating Myskina and Sharapova, 2 grand slam Champions.
Yeah Hingis was tired in Tokio Final, true Dementieva played out of her mind tennis, and would have won anyway i think, but to deny that playing for 5 straight weeks, playing doubles, mixed doubles GS title as well, that took a lot out of her, and played a sloopy final against Elena.

Elenaīs wins over Hingis have been on very especial circunstances for Hingis.. 2001 Fall Period she played horrible, Elena did little while beating Martina 6-2 6-2. Then the injury of 2002 Filderstat Hingis probably played as pathetic as she did at the Usopen 2002, near her retirement decision. And now this year in Tokio, after Martinaīs run for 5 weeks and also that much anticipated match against Sharapova, which she went throught took a lot out of her mentally... still Dementieva played this match unbelieveable well and really would have won anyway as i said.

I will never understand this haters.. When Hingis retired.. she "did it" because she knew the game had moved on already.. too much power.. she could not handle this new tennis.. etc .etc BS..
When she announced her comeback haters said.. ok she will probably be a top 100, top 50 player.. but she wonīt even be able to touch a top 30 player...
Hingis proved everyone wrong..

Now she is beating 2 recent GS champs, and now her game is something new that people should get used to it.. Were not you the ones that said that "hingisīs game was not enough" to compete against the best players?..
:lol: haters...

PD. About what you said about Myskina she currently ranks 12 and she had a nice second half of the year last year.. Top ten tennis perhaps.. so stop the wine. Discrediting Myskina to discredit Hingisīs win, just makes you look like a fool. Afterall Myskina beat Dementieva twice during last yearīs second half.

blumaroo
Feb 23rd, 2006, 01:17 AM
Hingis doesn't get beaten by finesse players. I wouldn't say Myskina is a 100% finesse player but she doesn't have any NOTABLE weapon to hurt Hingis. Plus she is quite erratic herself. You have to hit through Hingis to win. You can't outsmart her.
I'm very curious how Martina handles Patty Schnyder and Amelie Mauresmo in the future.

louisa2k2
Feb 23rd, 2006, 01:27 AM
Thanks nouf great pics :)

F-R-E-A-K
Feb 23rd, 2006, 01:52 AM
Nice match Martina :hearts: :hearts: I really enjoyed watching her toy with Nastya :lol: :bounce:

:kiss: :kiss:

go hingis
Feb 23rd, 2006, 02:04 AM
I was so happy when I woke up and put on Eurosport New's.

GO MARTINA!!!!! I'm so glad she won, I know Myskina would have been trying to give it her all, sometimes Martina just makes you hit one ball too many.

Kick Sharapova's ASS, AGAIN!

hingis-seles
Feb 23rd, 2006, 04:43 AM
This was fun to watch. I got into the stadium aT 6-4, 1-1.

Dolpho
Feb 23rd, 2006, 05:44 AM
Great Match Martina :D DO make it 2 in a row against Masha :bounce:

fanfromtoronto
Feb 23rd, 2006, 05:55 AM
ueaaah so Hapy for Martina!!!!!
Nastya learn something today!!!
im loving mMartina chances more and more for RG of this year

I think thats one incentive for Hingis' return. She is missing that prize of RG. Her chances are looking pretty good if not this year than next.

Veritas
Feb 23rd, 2006, 06:20 AM
...but then MS has always been overated really...

How's Sharapova 'overrated'? :scratch:

She's won a Slam. Been no.1. Also has a YEC trophy in her cabinet. Most of all, she's proven to be more than a tall, pretty blonde.

If Hingis beats Davenport or Momo or Kim,or Justine or Even Elena ,then that will be something ,as it is ,shes doing pretty well.

Not really. Once Martina does that, people will go round the bend and start a whole new bunch of cliche excuses. Injuries, pre-season cobwebs, wrong surface, heavy balls...take your pick.

I will never understand this haters.. When Hingis retired.. she "did it" because she knew the game had moved on already.. too much power.. she could not handle this new tennis.. etc .etc BS..
When she announced her comeback haters said.. ok she will probably be a top 100, top 50 player.. but she wonīt even be able to touch a top 30 player...
Hingis proved everyone wrong..

Now she is beating 2 recent GS champs, and now her game is something new that people should get used to it.. Were not you the ones that said that "hingisīs game was not enough" to compete against the best players?..
:lol: haters...

PD. About what you said about Myskina she currently ranks 12 and she had a nice second half of the year last year.. Top ten tennis perhaps.. so stop the wine. Discrediting Myskina to discredit Hingisīs win, just makes you look like a fool. Afterall Myskina beat Dementieva twice during last yearīs second half.

Exactly :lol:

Haters are getting more predictable by the minute.

tennisjam
Feb 23rd, 2006, 08:38 AM
I will never understand this haters.. When Hingis retired.. she "did it" because she knew the game had moved on already.. too much power.. she could not handle this new tennis.. etc .etc BS..
When she announced her comeback haters said.. ok she will probably be a top 100, top 50 player.. but she wonīt even be able to touch a top 30 player...
Hingis proved everyone wrong..

Now she is beating 2 recent GS champs, and now her game is something new that people should get used to it.. Were not you the ones that said that "hingisīs game was not enough" to compete against the best players?..
:lol: haters...

PD. About what you said about Myskina she currently ranks 12 and she had a nice second half of the year last year.. Top ten tennis perhaps.. so stop the wine. Discrediting Myskina to discredit Hingisīs win, just makes you look like a fool. Afterall Myskina beat Dementieva twice during last yearīs second half.

quite agree...but I find these reactions rather funny :lol:...pathetic :o...but still funny...:lol:

Chrissie-fan
Feb 23rd, 2006, 02:41 PM
Beating Dementieva would meant a lot less than beating Myskina and Sharapova, 2 grand slam Champions.
Yeah Hingis was tired in Tokio Final, true Dementieva played out of her mind tennis, and would have won anyway i think, but to deny that playing for 5 straight weeks, playing doubles, mixed doubles GS title as well, that took a lot out of her, and played a sloopy final against Elena.

Elenaīs wins over Hingis have been on very especial circunstances for Hingis.. 2001 Fall Period she played horrible, Elena did little while beating Martina 6-2 6-2. Then the injury of 2002 Filderstat Hingis probably played as pathetic as she did at the Usopen 2002, near her retirement decision. And now this year in Tokio, after Martinaīs run for 5 weeks and also that much anticipated match against Sharapova, which she went throught took a lot out of her mentally... still Dementieva played this match unbelieveable well and really would have won anyway as i said.

I will never understand this haters.. When Hingis retired.. she "did it" because she knew the game had moved on already.. too much power.. she could not handle this new tennis.. etc .etc BS..
When she announced her comeback haters said.. ok she will probably be a top 100, top 50 player.. but she wonīt even be able to touch a top 30 player...
Hingis proved everyone wrong..

Now she is beating 2 recent GS champs, and now her game is something new that people should get used to it.. Were not you the ones that said that "hingisīs game was not enough" to compete against the best players?..
:lol: haters...

PD. About what you said about Myskina she currently ranks 12 and she had a nice second half of the year last year.. Top ten tennis perhaps.. so stop the wine. Discrediting Myskina to discredit Hingisīs win, just makes you look like a fool. Afterall Myskina beat Dementieva twice during last yearīs second half.
:worship:

WtaTour4Ever
Feb 23rd, 2006, 03:28 PM
Is anyone uploading this , I've always wanted to see this match up, since people claimed myskina was similar to Martina.

RAA
Feb 23rd, 2006, 08:15 PM
I just want to say GREAT JOB hingis. I really felt that she would beat myskina, but thoght maybe it would be in three sets..

RAA
Feb 23rd, 2006, 08:23 PM
Martina is for real.

And she will continue beating people like Myskina who just keep the ball in play.

The take no initiative, make no statement with their shots, just lay back hoping the other palyer will make mistakes.

So I am not surprised that Hingis beant Martina.

She enjoys toying with these passive players.

yes, I agree.

and I agree SHAME on the haters. except for the mOSt optimistic of fans, hingis' comeback has exceeded ALL expectations. you can't trot out and obstacle that you say hingis can't over come, then when she does overcome it, say it wasn't much of an obstacle at all.

I notice that the pool of players over against whom hingis would have to win to signal that she is back as a serious contender is getting smaller and smaller...:rolleyes:

first it was she hasn't beaten anyone in the top 20, top 10, GS winners.. former no 1. well now she has done all of that.

having said that, dementieva DID give her a beat down. you can't expect other fans to NOT trot out their lame excuses if Hingis fans trot out their lame ones (tiredness) instead of congratulating Dementieve on a great win.

alibaby
Feb 24th, 2006, 03:16 PM
Martina is for real.

And she will continue beating people like Myskina who just keep the ball in play.

The take no initiative, make no statement with their shots, just lay back hoping the other palyer will make mistakes.

So I am not surprised that Hingis beant Martina.

She enjoys toying with these passive players.
i am a big nastya fan,but i can still take in some critics literally:but when someone says,she just keeps the ball in,and waits for mistakes,this is too much of a devaluement.and i cant let that be unanswered!nastya may not be too consistent,but she is more than variable in her play,and she has all attributes,that are needed to be one of the best!so please guys,being critical is okay,but writing unfair and untrue things is another one!and dont forget:she already won a GS!IMO,that stands for itself...

manu32
Feb 24th, 2006, 05:10 PM
i am a big nastya fan,but i can still take in some critics literally:but when someone says,she just keeps the ball in,and waits for mistakes,this is too much of a devaluement.and i cant let that be unanswered!nastya may not be too consistent,but she is more than variable in her play,and she has all attributes,that are needed to be one of the best!so please guys,being critical is okay,but writing unfair and untrue things is another one!and dont forget:she already won a GS!IMO,that stands for itself...


and hingis is not a good example of powerful player and her winners statistics are poor....past,present and probably future..

Ryan
Feb 24th, 2006, 05:16 PM
and hingis is not a good example of powerful player and her winners statistics are poor....past,present and probably future..


I've been feeling crummy lately, and now I finally know why. I haven't bad repped you in ages.