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MisterQ
Feb 19th, 2006, 04:20 PM
This is from Tennis Magazine. Coach Robert Lansdorp says:

"She was very much like she is now. She worked hard but was prone to moping. She had an unbelievable backhand at 12 years old, and I admit some of that was raw talent. It was just as sweet as it could get.

The thing with Lindsay is that if she had a coach who was heavy into topspin, she would never have seen the Top 50, no matter how much desire she had. She was kind of lucky that I taught a flatter game. Lindsay suprised me when she won her first pro event at 16, on clay. I was like, 'How the hell did you win a clay-court tournament?'

Another thing about Lindsay: She has a competitiveness that she hasn't shown. To be No. 1, you have to be that way, but she never wanted that known. She did a good job hiding it."

That comment struck me. Are there talented players out there on the tour who are simply playing the wrong style of game for their abilities? Anyone in particular come to mind?

SelesFan70
Feb 19th, 2006, 04:24 PM
She was kind of lucky that I taught a flatter game

This man's ego is totally out of control. :rolleyes: It's no wonder he and Yuri Sharapov couldn't get along.

vogus
Feb 19th, 2006, 04:57 PM
Robert Lansdorp knows one kind of tennis. Bang, Bang, Bang. If it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Sharapova has been finding this out for the last year.

I think Lansdorp makes a good point though. Davenport has a huge ego, and she has largely managed to hide that fact from the tennis public.

Leo_DFP
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:10 PM
I agree that he's off his rocker with all the self-praise.

mike/topgun
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:17 PM
WTH...? Maybe he's got a point but it's not all that simple to create a champion.
I agree bout the backhand and the competitiveness too.

Wsisters45
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Robert Lansdorp knows one kind of tennis. Bang, Bang, Bang. If it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Sharapova has been finding this out for the last year.

I think Lansdorp makes a good point though. Davenport has a huge ego, and she has largely managed to hide that fact from the tennis public.

WTF are you talking about? :retard: If anyone has less of an ego,it's Lindsay.

bis2806
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:19 PM
Which issue is this from?

bis2806
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:25 PM
I'm sure if topspin groundstrokes didn't work for Lindsay, she would have tried other things like having flat groundstrokes like she does now. She's too smart not to be able to figure that out.

vogus
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:25 PM
WTF are you talking about? :retard: If anyone has less of an ego,it's Lindsay.


that's exactly my point. She has fooled a lot of people but it's part of her act. Davenport's ego is massive.

MisterQ
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:28 PM
Which issue is this from?

March 2006. :)

Wsisters45
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:28 PM
that's exactly my point. She has fooled a lot of people but it's part of her act. Davenport's ego is massive.


Yeah,because you know her and is with her 24/7 :rolleyes:

Knizzle
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:28 PM
that's exactly my point. She has fooled a lot of people but it's part of her act. Davenport's ego is massive.

Vogus is right about this one Wsisters. Occasionally that ego shows up, but she has been able to hide it alot.

Wsisters45
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:33 PM
He doesn't say that she has a huge ego,just that she's has competitiveness inside of her. Every tennis player has to have an ego,but I highly doubt that it's "massive".

Sally Struthers
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:59 PM
you don't get to #1 without some sort of ego. And why is that such a bad thing?

Carsten
Feb 19th, 2006, 06:08 PM
great comment ;)

...and if someone had told smashnova to play without any spin and try to hit winners on every shot she would never have seen the top 500... :rolleyes:

Wsisters45
Feb 19th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Isn't Lansdorp still pissed at her for giving credit to Robert Vanthof (sp?) before him as to why she's had success?

VeeReeDavJCap81
Feb 19th, 2006, 06:15 PM
He is right, you have to have an ego to be #1 in the world. You must have the self belief that you are the best to become the best, it's human nature.

Wsisters45
Feb 19th, 2006, 06:17 PM
Robert Lansdorp knows one kind of tennis. Bang, Bang, Bang. If it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Sharapova has been finding this out for the last year.

I think Lansdorp makes a good point though. Davenport has a huge ego, and she has largely managed to hide that fact from the tennis public.


The more that I think about it, you're right. I took it the wrong way. My apologies. :)

Lindsayfan32
Feb 19th, 2006, 07:21 PM
You've gota have a huge ego to get to the top and stay there for as long as Lindsay has competiveness has a lot to do with it too but you don't have to be over top with it . I agree Lindsay has hid it from the public well it one of the many reason I've been fan. It a good article and another thing I agree with a bit ego driven too.

GrandSlam05
Feb 19th, 2006, 07:31 PM
They all have an ego. Not all of them have the brains to hide it.
I'm sorry but most of Lindsay's hitting ability comes from her talent not from this douche.

LH2HBH
Feb 19th, 2006, 07:34 PM
This man's ego is totally out of control. :rolleyes: It's no wonder he and Yuri Sharapov couldn't get along.


Must say I disagree. He's known as the groundstrokes doctor for good reason.

#1. Lindsay Davenport
#2. Maria Sharapova
#3. Anastasia Myskina

He does tend to teach players to play a flatter game but what a game it is!

MisterQ
Feb 19th, 2006, 09:36 PM
I'm just intrigued by the image of Davenport playing a loopy topspin game. I can't even imagine it. :lol:

thelittlestelf
Feb 19th, 2006, 11:20 PM
Well, Lansdorp may have an ego, but rightfully so if you ask me. No one can teach groundstrokes as well as he can.

alibaby
Feb 24th, 2006, 09:46 AM
WTH...? Maybe he's got a point but it's not all that simple to create a champion.
I agree bout the backhand and the competitiveness too.
yes,thats a good comment.if it were that easy,the top ten would change every day...there are some special abilities,you either have or have not.and no trainer in the world can teach them to you.its something genetic,IMO....
so,we should nt "overvalue" the whole thing.i think,theres one thing,that played a big part in linnys progress:and that is self-confidence!this has surely helped her a lot to get,where she is now.i can still imagine her in the early years,and to today,there is a difference like heaven and earth!so,we should always see things in the context...
all the best,linny-baby!! :kiss: :kiss:

dav abu
Feb 24th, 2006, 11:41 AM
I don't think he was saying for one second that Davenport hides a huge ego, I think he way saying that Davenport has a competitive streak that she keeps hidden. He has no problems with his own ego thatís for sure.