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MisterMan
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:45 PM
Never thought i'd see the day again.
Daniela is currently number 14 with a bullet. Girls ranked 10 thru 13 above her are either not playing this week, or got dismissed already, so a good run to the semi's or the finals would really see this possibly becoming a reality again !
Someone do the math, 'cause i sux at it. Can she climb any higher if she makes a good run this week ? :worship:

ZAK
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:49 PM
She'd have to get to the final just to move up to #13

MisterMan
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:51 PM
ah #$&*. Really ? oh well, it'll close the gap more at least.
Thanks dude !

frenchie
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:52 PM
No, Nastya is closer to the top 10 than Daniela and has nothing to defend until Wimby!! :worship:

UDACHi
Feb 13th, 2006, 07:09 PM
No, Nastya is closer to the top 10 than Daniela and has nothing to defend until Wimby!! :worship:

Yeah, she's got the Antwerp semi then literally nothing. If she can't get back inside the top 10. :unsure: :help:

Helen Lawson
Feb 13th, 2006, 07:13 PM
Do they still publish that magazine, "Inches"?

MisterMan
Feb 13th, 2006, 07:14 PM
That's cool for Myskina, but that's not who this thread was about !!

frenchie
Feb 13th, 2006, 07:17 PM
That's cool for Myskina, but that's not who this thread was about !!

:rolleyes:
Moreover Daniela has a lot to defend in Doha and Dubai!

shnit.
Feb 13th, 2006, 07:17 PM
She has loads to defend in Dubai and Doha, then after that, she has like a point or some 30 points throughout the clay season up until RG, which she has 3rd rnd points to defend. Not really that much until wimbly, again 3rd rnd, as she had braincramps in Birmingham and Eastbourne. :retard: But after the grass, it's crunch time. US hardcourts. :scared:

But yea, I'd say one tournie at a time. That's the beauty-excitement in following Daniela and her being your favorite, you don't know if she'll play her best at one tournie, barely win a match or two in another tournie, or completely fart her brain out in another one.

So yea. We don't know. But hope she will, one step at a time.

Danči Dementia
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:12 PM
Go Dani go you can do it Cmon back in the Top ten :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Farina Elia Fan
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:15 PM
If Hantuchova makes top 10 again :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:


talk about no depth in the WTA

UDACHi
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:17 PM
I have to agree with FEF. Daniela is not one of the top 10 players in the world. Sorry Danka. :hug:

Farina Elia Fan
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:18 PM
I have to agree with FEF. Daniela is not one of the top 10 players in the world. Sorry Danka. :hug:



:bounce: not many people ever agree with me lol

jrm
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:19 PM
When will science fictions theories about Ally McBeal finally stop :help:

fOxYLiCiOuS
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:20 PM
If Hantuchova makes top 10 again :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:


talk about no depth in the WTA

:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

conrado
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:33 PM
When will science fictions theories about Ally McBeal finally stop :help:

There weren't many people thinking she would get to the top 15 and now she is 14, so it's no longer science fiction, it's reality.

You know, Ally McBeal is science fiction for sure, Daniela is for real !
so rather not accurate comparison here.

AjdeNate!
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:36 PM
Do they still publish that magazine, "Inches"?
:lol:

Shenanigans
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:38 PM
She is gonna have to have a few more big wins otherwise she will be stuck in the graveyard of the #13 - #20, some of them seem quite comfortable there.

~|Naomi|~
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:46 PM
:bounce: not many people ever agree with me lol

I'll agree. I love Daniela's game but right now she isn't worthy of a top 10 position. But that could well change:)

switz
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:55 PM
i was impressed with her at the Australian Open - looked much more like the player from 2002 IMO.

she's still got a lot of work to do though

~Carsten~
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:57 PM
if she plays a little more constantly, she will crack top the 10!

Derek.
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:00 PM
She is working her way back up a step at a time. :) She's got some points to defend soon, but she can make her mark at IW, Miami, the clay season, Birmingham, and Eastbourne. From then on she's got many points to defend.

Go Daniela! :yeah: Prove all of the haters wrong. :cool:

UDACHi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:09 PM
There are 10 players better than her. That's all I'm saying.

Corswandt
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:11 PM
She is gonna have to have a few more big wins otherwise she will be stuck in the graveyard of the #13 - #20, some of them seem quite comfortable there.

Graveyard - that's a good description. There are players who hang in those slots for bloody ages, even if their actual performances and runs at tournaments are no better than mediocre.

But one must not forget many other players would sell their souls to Patty Schnyder :devil: to be able to reach that ranking.

Derek.
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:16 PM
If Hantuchova makes top 10 again :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:


talk about no depth in the WTA

And what would be so wrong with Daniela making the top ten again?

She can beat any player on any given day.
She has a tier one title.
She's been ranked in the top five before.
She has all of the weapons to threaten the top players.
She has a net game that many don't
She's one of the most talented players on tour.
She is stronger mentally than before.
She has the complete game to be a top 10 player.

Only things that need to improve are consistancy and her movement and both of those have already improved compared to the past. If she does become a top 10 player again then everyone else better watch out, because she will have A LOT motivation.

But it'd be so cool to rub it in your face if she does get back where she belongs, which is the top 10 whether you like it or not. :)

SzavayFi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:18 PM
Dani IS very close and this is what ive been waiting for my whole life. But, having Daniela as my favorite player has also taught me that even if she is playing someone ranked in the 1000's...you cant expect a win 100% of the time. She should get some points here in Antwerp because she has a dream draw but then come Doha and Dubai there will be a problem if she doesnt have her head on right :help: But even if she COMPLETELY bombs the tournies in the middle east then she has almost NO points to defend in Indian Wells and Miami :) Then comes the clay court season which she has very little to defent despite the FO. Then she crashed out 1st round at Birmingham AND Eastbourne last year (her best surface) So HOPEFULLY she gets it together then :) Then comes the american hard courts and indoor season which she did really well but lets just not look at that ;)

ANYWAYS! Very reaching goal that top ten is :cool:

SAEKeithSerena
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:20 PM
If Hantuchova makes top 10 again :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:


talk about no depth in the WTA


agree. it just shows how injuries have plagued all the top players and how open the top 10 is right now.

SzavayFi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:20 PM
I have to agree with FEF. Daniela is not one of the top 10 players in the world. Sorry Danka. :hug:
Joey am I gonna have to come beat you! :armed: Yea better watch what comes from your mouth boy ;) :p

UDACHi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:21 PM
Joey am I gonna have to come beat you! :armed: Yea better watch what comes from your mouth boy ;) :p

I'm saying my honest opinion. Sorry. :)

LeRoy.
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:22 PM
If Hantuchova makes top 10 again :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:


talk about no depth in the WTA

why ? would you have liked if people said such things about Farina Elia when she was hovering around the top 10 mark?

Daniela is a former top 5 player so i see no reason why u think her return to the yop 10 would be an omnious sign for the WTA tour :rolleyes:

SzavayFi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:23 PM
I'm saying my honest opinion. Sorry. :)
hopefully u know im kidding ;)

iPatty
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:26 PM
Danka definitely deserves to be top ten a lot more than some of the players that are there now. She is one of the most talented girls on tour, she can beat anyone on any given day, she has rededicated herself to the sport. She deserves to be top ten, and not have to play the top players so early in every tournament.

:rocker2:

UDACHi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:27 PM
hopefully u know im kidding ;)

:haha: I do. But I just wanted to let you know. I think Daniela is a great player with loads of potential, but she doesn't use that potential. If Daniela were to make the top 10 by earning it, I'll be very happy, as long as she doesn't take out Elena. If she got in off injuries and other flukey things, I would feel jipped as a fan of Daniela and pissed as a fan of the sport.

iPatty
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:28 PM
why ? would you have liked if people said such things about Farina Elia when she was hovering around the top 10 mark?

Daniela is a former top 5 player so i see no reason why u think her return to the yop 10 would be an omnious sign for the WTA tour :rolleyes:

Exactly. It's odd that FEF is judging Daniela on returning to the top ten. I'm sure that if I said, "Silvia has no talent at all and doesn't deserve to be in the top ten, so what was the point of making a thread?", FEF wouldn't agree. But, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. :p

iPatty
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:29 PM
:haha: I do. But I just wanted to let you know. I think Daniela is a great player with loads of potential, but she doesn't use that potential. If Daniela were to make the top 10 by earning it, I'll be very happy, as long as she doesn't take out Elena. If she got in off injuries and other flukey things, I would feel jipped as a fan of Daniela and pissed as a fan of the sport.

Now I get it. ;) Kind of like how Maria became number one, right? But you wouldn't say such a thing about that, now would you?

:wavey:

UDACHi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:31 PM
Now I get it. ;) Kind of like how Maria became number one, right? But you wouldn't say such a thing about that, now would you?

:wavey:

No, I wouldn't, cause I like Maria better and she had been very close all year, it was inevitable.

iPatty
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:34 PM
No, I wouldn't, cause I like Maria better and she had been very close all year, it was inevitable.

Interesting. I think she would have become number one anyway (I'm not a big fan of hers ;)), but I just think it would have been more appropriate if she had reached it due to her own play, not Lindsay's injury. :hug: :worship:

UDACHi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:35 PM
Interesting. I think she would have become number one anyway (I'm not a big fan of hers ;)), but I just think it would have been more appropriate if she had reached it due to her own play, not Lindsay's injury. :hug: :worship:

Like I said, inevitable. :worship:

iPatty
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:37 PM
Like I said, inevitable. :worship:

You know I hate admitting you're right. ;) :lol:

SzavayFi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:40 PM
Like I said, inevitable. :worship:
And like I always say........I wish a had a bigger vocabulary :angel:

Derek.
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:41 PM
Danka definitely deserves to be top ten a lot more than some of the players that are there now. She is one of the most talented girls on tour, she can beat anyone on any given day, she has rededicated herself to the sport. She deserves to be top ten, and not have to play the top players so early in every tournament.

:rocker2:

:bounce: I like you more and more. :p

About the playing the top players so early, I agree, though I think you fear her taking out Patty in the 2R like she did in Sydney! :lol: ;)

Derek.
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:42 PM
And like I always say........I wish a had a bigger vocabulary :angel:

He chokes on his big words sometimes. :o :tape:

SzavayFi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:43 PM
Danka definitely deserves to be top ten a lot more than some of the players that are there now. She is one of the most talented girls on tour, she can beat anyone on any given day, she has rededicated herself to the sport. She deserves to be top ten, and not have to play the top players so early in every tournament.

:rocker2:
Words from a genius right here :yeah:

iPatty
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:47 PM
Words from a genius right here :yeah:

Word. :p



:bounce: I like you more and more. :p

About the playing the top players so early, I agree, though I think you fear her taking out Patty in the 2R like she did in Sydney! :lol: ;)

How'd you know? :p Daniela certainly has owned Patty lately. :unsure: But I'm sure she will always remember the U.S. Open '04. :p :lol:

It would be nice to get her ranking up to where she was seeded to reach at least the 4th Round at Grand Slams. :rolleyes: Then, she wouldn't lose third round all the time. (Hopefully this will stop in '06. It was a nice start at the Australian. :p)

Derek.
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:47 PM
Words from a genius right here :yeah:

Genius? :tape:

Haha just kidding. ;)

SzavayFi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:49 PM
Word. :p



How'd you know? :p Daniela certainly has owned Patty lately. :unsure: But I'm sure she will always remember the U.S. Open '04. :p :lol:

It would be nice to get her ranking up to where she was seeded to reach at least the 4th Round at Grand Slams. :rolleyes: Then, she wouldn't lose third round all the time. (Hopefully this will stop in '06. It was a nice start at the Australian. :p)
US Open 04...yea Ill NEVER forget that :smash: :tears: But its nothing compared to the 03 wimbledon asogoe match :help:

Derek.
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:50 PM
But I'm sure she will always remember the U.S. Open '04. :p :lol:

And sadly I will too. :sobbing:


Daniela certainly has owned Patty lately. :unsure:

3-1 in their last four meetings. :worship:


It would be nice to get her ranking up to where she was seeded to reach at least the 4th Round at Grand Slams. :rolleyes: Then, she wouldn't lose third round all the time. (Hopefully this will stop in '06. It was a nice start at the Australian. :p)

She would have had that #16 seed if it wasn't for Vaidisova. :shout: But she didn't need it. :angel: ;)

iPatty
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:52 PM
Genius? :tape:

Haha just kidding. ;)

:ras: I just said nice things about Daniela, you better be nice. :devil: :p

iPatty
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:55 PM
And sadly I will too. :sobbing:

So will I....:devil:. But for much different reasons. ;)

3-1 in their last four meetings. :worship:

Too bad they never met on clay in those four meetings. ;) :lol:

She would have had that #16 seed if it wasn't for Vaidisova. :shout: But she didn't need it. :angel: ;)

Hopefully, she can do well in Doha and Dubai. :unsure: Then, she can keep her ranking in the Top 16, and she will be one of the 'elite' of the field. :p :lol: :worship:

SzavayFi
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:58 PM
Too bad they never met on clay in those four meetings. ;) :lol:


Im not gonna lie.....clay is gay :shrug:

iPatty
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:59 PM
Im not gonna lie.....clay is gay :shrug:

But Patty is masterful on it. :p And Daniela's not. So Patty would win. :worship: ;)

Derek.
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:28 AM
But Patty is masterful on it. :p And Daniela's not. So Patty would win. :worship: ;)

Daniela does ok on clay. Patty would win, but still I think Daniela's clay game is underrated. :lol: She was injured a bit against Dulko and Mamic, but rebounded ok at RG. ;) For sure though, it's her worst surface.

ezekiel
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:38 AM
The way I see it Hantuchova is one of those players like Schnyder and Petrova that has no hope against top players thus they are really trying to inflate their ranking by playing every week ;) . That or they really like to travel from city to city :lol:

iPatty
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:40 AM
Daniela does ok on clay. Patty would win, but still I think Daniela's clay game is underrated. :lol: She was injured a bit against Dulko and Mamic, but rebounded ok at RG. ;) For sure though, it's her worst surface.

Mamic and Dulko are both good players on clay. Mamic gave Dementieva a run for her money in the first round at Rolan Garros. :lol: But you're right, Patty would win. ;) :devil:

shnit.
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:40 AM
Daniela does ok on clay. Patty would win, but still I think Daniela's clay game is underrated. :lol: She was injured a bit against Dulko and Mamic, but rebounded ok at RG. ;) For sure though, it's her worst surface.
I'd like to think of it like this, Grass for Daniela is heaven, clay for her is hell. :)
Daniela isnt the best at clay but she isnt the worse at it either. ;)

iPatty
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:40 AM
The way I see it Hantuchova is one of those players like Schnyder and Petrova that has no hope against top players thus they are really trying to inflate their ranking by playing every week ;) . That or they really like to travel from city to city :lol:

:unsure: Patty can beat the top players, sometimes. When she is playing well, and when she is on clay. :p :devil:

fammmmedspin
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:45 AM
The big gap is between Venus and 11. whether this closes is largely up to Venus defending, improving and ultimately losing or not losing a lot of Wimbledon points. if she slips a bit there are quite a few players in the low teens in the ranking who could make the top 10 and who have not got that much to defend early - Nastya, Francesca, Nicole, Daniela to name but 4.

Loz46
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:47 AM
Daniela! On her way up, go girl! :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Derek.
Feb 14th, 2006, 01:44 AM
The way I see it Hantuchova is one of those players like Schnyder and Petrova that has no hope against top players thus they are really trying to inflate their ranking by playing every week ;) . That or they really like to travel from city to city :lol:

Ivanovic still can't beat Schnyder so should you be talking? :shrug:

IceHock
Feb 14th, 2006, 01:51 AM
danielas beaten 2 really good oppenets this year schnyder whos in the top ten and girl named SERENA WILLIAMS idc if she was obese at the time danilea beating her is one of her best career wins and she played really good so she does do good against the top players she should have beaten davenport at zurich and her record wih momo is even and against jhh is really close.

borisy
Feb 14th, 2006, 02:00 AM
Daniela had a big potential when she was younger but she wasted her opportunities with weight problems. Now it's very difficult to imagine her back into top 10 because she only has like 2-3 good wins in a year.

UDACHi
Feb 14th, 2006, 02:13 AM
Mamic and Dulko are both good players on clay. Mamic gave Dementieva a run for her money in the first round at Rolan Garros. :lol: But you're right, Patty would win. ;) :devil:

It was second round, you stupid troll. :o

:p

SzavayFi
Feb 14th, 2006, 02:14 AM
It was second round, you stupid troll. :o

:p
Ouch Joey just dropped to T-bomb :help:

ezekiel
Feb 14th, 2006, 02:23 AM
Ivanovic still can't beat Schnyder so should you be talking? :shrug:
Yes, I should give an educated opinion. Schnyder is an unorthodox player that needs getting used to and Ana Ivanovic is fully aware of that and is working on that. However Patty Schnyder is minced meat to a modern power player nowadays , notice her beatdown by Amelie at AO . That still won't prevent her and others like to play gazillion tournaments and inflate their ranks :wavey:

ezekiel
Feb 14th, 2006, 02:25 AM
Daniela had a big potential when she was younger but she wasted her opportunities with weight problems. Now it's very difficult to imagine her back into top 10 because she only has like 2-3 good wins in a year.

I wish I could have said this earlier :)

Derek.
Feb 14th, 2006, 03:06 AM
Daniela had a big potential when she was younger but she wasted her opportunities with weight problems. Now it's very difficult to imagine her back into top 10 because she only has like 2-3 good wins in a year.

It was more than weight problems.

Derek.
Feb 14th, 2006, 03:08 AM
Yes, I should give an educated opinion. Schnyder is an unorthodox player that needs getting used to and Ana Ivanovic is fully aware of that and is working on that. However Patty Schnyder is minced meat to a modern power player nowadays , notice her beatdown by Amelie at AO . That still won't prevent her and others like to play gazillion tournaments and inflate their ranks :wavey:

Mauresmo's not really a power player. :shrug: Schnyder is very consistant and that's why her ranking is so high. Sure she plays a lot of tournaments, but you can play a lot of tournaments and not have a good ranking, so obviously she is playing good tennis.

ezekiel
Feb 14th, 2006, 03:12 AM
Mauresmo's not really a power player. :shrug: Schnyder is very consistant and that's why her ranking is so high. Sure she plays a lot of tournaments, but you can play a lot of tournaments and not have a good ranking, so obviously she is playing good tennis.

Maursmo is x2 the power of Schnyder at least ;)

SzavayFi
Feb 14th, 2006, 03:15 AM
Maursmo is x2 the power of Schnyder at least ;)
But she is still most definately NOT a power player thats for sure.

rommel99
Feb 14th, 2006, 03:20 AM
well even if she enters the top ten(which is a possibility but i think she wont) she wouldnt last there either so....

Oriental_Rain
Feb 14th, 2006, 04:45 AM
I'll keep my mouth shut until I see her name on it

So Disrespectful
Feb 14th, 2006, 06:43 AM
well even if she enters the top ten(which is a possibility but i think she wont) she wouldnt last there either so....

That's what people said about Nadia.

Daniela wasn't just given her top 5 ranking, she earned it. Just because she had a few problems and 2 lean years doesn't take away from the fact that she has top 5 potential (which she has already proven).

It's her mental strength that needs work, and she's slowly edging back to her 2002 form. In fact, I'd be willing to stake $1000 on her reaching the top 10 at some point in the next two years.

wipeout
Feb 14th, 2006, 07:07 AM
Daniela was ranked 5th behind Serena, Venus, Kim and Justine for her performance over 2002 so it's not like it was just anyone who were the top 4 above her. :yeah:

Farina Elia Fan
Feb 14th, 2006, 07:19 AM
why ? would you have liked if people said such things about Farina Elia when she was hovering around the top 10 mark?

Daniela is a former top 5 player so i see no reason why u think her return to the yop 10 would be an omnious sign for the WTA tour :rolleyes:


Hantuchova has a lovely, solid game but imo doesnt have weapons! Her movement is awful and I honestly dont think she is mentally strong. I would say 11-20 in the rankings is fair

Farina Elia Fan
Feb 14th, 2006, 07:23 AM
Exactly. It's odd that FEF is judging Daniela on returning to the top ten. I'm sure that if I said, "Silvia has no talent at all and doesn't deserve to be in the top ten, so what was the point of making a thread?", FEF wouldn't agree. But, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. :p



If you read the thread that geisha created about talent, you will read that I said Silvia has very limited talent and I have never denied it and yes I do think that back in 01 & 02 Silvia should have been in the top 10 at some point.


The thing that makes me dislike Hantuchova is the hype!!!! She has won 1 title and apart from a couple of lucky draws hasnt done much. But everyone loves her???? :confused:

conrado
Feb 14th, 2006, 09:46 AM
So what's wrong in the fact, that everyone as you said ,"loves her"? She is a nice human being, a sensitive, intelligent person, it's quite understandable that many people love her.

Direwolf
Feb 14th, 2006, 04:19 PM
Yups... she has a chance.. and i think that the only people who can get back to the top ten are the people who has been there before... Like.. martina, hantu, sveta, myskina, serena, venus...

Libertango
Feb 14th, 2006, 04:22 PM
Girls ranked 10 thru 13 above her are either not playing this week.....

Girls?!?! They are ladies! Women! ;)

Anyway, glad to see Dani doing well, was very impressed with her at AO and she looked very good today aswell at Antwerp. :yeah:

MisterMan
Feb 14th, 2006, 04:53 PM
Daniela is not one of the top 10 players in the world

This doesn't make any sense.
If the WTA rankings put her in the top ten based on a point system - then she IS one of the top 10 players in the world !!
What the hell don't people get about that ????

The rankings aren't someones "opinion" LOL !!