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selesfan1
Feb 13th, 2006, 03:22 PM
They show Seinfeld rereuns late a night here and I caught the end of one over the weekend which I found a bit inappropriate just from what I was able to see.

Elaine, Jerry and George went to the 1993 U.S. Open (it said so on the stadium)and the episode was from then. Kramer was a ballperson and Monica Seles had made it to the finals. In the final scene Elaine says "Can you believe Monca Seles is in the final after her comeback?" Jerry and George agree it's quite amazing and then the Monica stand in rushes to the net and kramer rushes out because her is the net ballperson and goes out to get the ball and "Monica" trips over him and lands face flat and everyone rushes out to help her. Very reminiscient of the stabbing pictures and afterwards they are like there is the man who reinjured Monica Seles.

If what I perceived was correct this was very inappropriate almost joking about Seles' injury. However, I also understand many people didn't know the seriousness of this injury because Monica didn't talk about it and I also know that Seles did attend the 1993 U.S. Open and even gave a press conference. Can anyone fill me in?

GoDominique
Feb 13th, 2006, 03:25 PM
Seinfeld sucks.

SelesFan70
Feb 13th, 2006, 03:59 PM
It was just a stupid show altogether. I can't believe it was named the best show EVER by TV Guide. :o

Danke Anke
Feb 13th, 2006, 04:31 PM
Seinfeld IS the best show ever. And I don't think that episode was inappropriate at all. Monica's my all time favourite and don't think they were trying to recreate the stabbing. It's a show about irony and the irony in that episode is that Kramer eff's up her comeback.

pcrtennis
Feb 13th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Seinfeld was BRILLIANT! If you don't like it, you need to work on your sens eof humor...

GoDominique
Feb 13th, 2006, 04:45 PM
Okay when pcrtennis says it's brilliant then it must be true. :lol:

Cam'ron Giles
Feb 13th, 2006, 04:46 PM
Seinfelf was smart and very funny...I had a friend who got so angry with the show because Jerry stepped on the Puerto Rican flag or something...And I was trying to get him to understand that it was not about disrespecting the flag...You have to have a certian amount of intelligence to understand the humor...:shrug:

Kart
Feb 13th, 2006, 04:48 PM
I have to admit I never got it when it was on.

Maybe I should give it another go.

GoDominique
Feb 13th, 2006, 04:48 PM
...You have to have a certian amount of intelligence to understand the humor...:shrug:
I guess the emphasis is on "certian" here. Not too little, but not too much either. :lol:

Nicjac
Feb 13th, 2006, 04:49 PM
It was just a stupid show altogether. I can't believe it was named the best show EVER by TV Guide. :o

Well, if you believe in TV Guide as appropriate for judging the quality of television shows, what do you use for judging tennis talents? People magazine? :p

ezekiel
Feb 13th, 2006, 04:52 PM
loved the Seinfeld but I can't say I remember that episode at all and I thought I watched them all. I only vaguely remember that they had some tennis episodes when Jerry was involved with some psychotic wanna be player. Can you provide more info about the episode you saw?

Cam'ron Giles
Feb 13th, 2006, 04:59 PM
loved the Seinfeld but I can't say I remember that episode at all and I thought I watched them all. I only vaguely remember that they had some tennis episodes when Jerry was involved with some psychotic wanna be player. Can you provide more info about the episode you saw?

Kramer was a "ball man" at the US Open and knocked over Seles...ruining her comeback...:mad:

griffin
Feb 13th, 2006, 05:02 PM
Oh lighten up, they weren't making fun of Monica, they were making fun of the character's ability to do the wrong thing in the wrong place at the wrong time.

This same show that had Kramer and Jerry accidentally dropping a junior mint into someone's body cavity after having snuck their way in to observe the guy's surgery. I realize it's not everyone's taste in humor, but they weren't trying to be mean to Monica or make light of her stabbing.

RJWCapriati
Feb 13th, 2006, 05:02 PM
They show Seinfeld rereuns late a night here and I caught the end of one over the weekend which I found a bit inappropriate just from what I was able to see.

Elaine, Jerry and George went to the 1993 U.S. Open (it said so on the stadium)and the episode was from then. Kramer was a ballperson and Monica Seles had made it to the finals. In the final scene Elaine says "Can you believe Monca Seles is in the final after her comeback?" Jerry and George agree it's quite amazing and then the Monica stand in rushes to the net and kramer rushes out because her is the net ballperson and goes out to get the ball and "Monica" trips over him and lands face flat and everyone rushes out to help her. Very reminiscient of the stabbing pictures and afterwards they are like there is the man who reinjured Monica Seles.

If what I perceived was correct this was very inappropriate almost joking about Seles' injury. However, I also understand many people didn't know the seriousness of this injury because Monica didn't talk about it and I also know that Seles did attend the 1993 U.S. Open and even gave a press conference. Can anyone fill me in?

Never watched that show ........glad I haven't now

selesfan1
Feb 13th, 2006, 05:11 PM
I understand that it was humorous and that probably nothing was meant to be mean. Like I said, a lot of people didn't know how serious this was and there were tons of rumors circulating that she would be back by the Open in 1993. I am just questioning the timing but after "Monica" tripped she was on the ground and the people around here . The whole scene after her trip was very similar to the stabbing.

jacobruiz
Feb 13th, 2006, 07:44 PM
"Seinfeld" was one of the funniest shows ever, in my opinion.

ezekiel
Feb 13th, 2006, 07:51 PM
Kramer was a "ball man" at the US Open and knocked over Seles...ruining her comeback...:mad:

Ok, I remember that but I don't remember Seles name being involved . I guess I'll have to look out for it in the future repeats to check it out

WhatTheDeuce
Feb 13th, 2006, 08:36 PM
Oh lighten up, they weren't making fun of Monica, they were making fun of the character's ability to do the wrong thing in the wrong place at the wrong time.

This same show that had Kramer and Jerry accidentally dropping a junior mint into someone's body cavity after having snuck their way in to observe the guy's surgery. I realize it's not everyone's taste in humor, but they weren't trying to be mean to Monica or make light of her stabbing.
Exactly.

By the way, I agree with what someone said earlier.. if you dont like Seinfeld, you seriously lack a sense of humor. :p

creep
Feb 13th, 2006, 08:39 PM
I have to admit I never got it when it was on.

Maybe I should give it another go.

Nah

creep
Feb 13th, 2006, 08:41 PM
Seinfeld sucks.

Correct again as usual.

Pureracket
Feb 13th, 2006, 08:46 PM
They just showed the episode in syndication last week. Seinfeld were waaaay off with the facts. They were @ the "Final" with Monica Seles, and it was on the Grand Slam court. . . LOL! According to Comcast Cable, the show was made in '93, but has two players that aren't even vaguely familiar with the two finalists.

Ryan
Feb 13th, 2006, 08:57 PM
That show was AMAZING! I love Seinfeld, and own all the seasons available on DVD. :D It was the '95 Us Open too, not the '93 one.

creep
Feb 13th, 2006, 09:00 PM
I have to admit I never got it when it was on.

Maybe I should give it another go.
**Hint** ;) ;)

Just take a ganders at the people on here who find it funny. ;) ;)

Enough said!

Kart
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:34 PM
**Hint** ;) ;)

Just take a ganders at the people on here who find it funny. ;) ;)

Enough said!

It was on today at 8pm on Paramount so I had the choice between it and watching the washing machine.

I'm still feeling dizzy.

Corswandt
Feb 13th, 2006, 10:54 PM
It was on today at 8pm on Paramount so I had the choice between it and watching the washing machine.

I'm still feeling dizzy.

:lol:

SelesFan70
Feb 14th, 2006, 01:55 AM
Well, if you believe in TV Guide as appropriate for judging the quality of television shows, what do you use for judging tennis talents? People magazine? :p


www.WTAWORLD.com :scared: :haha: :scared:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Feb 14th, 2006, 02:42 AM
Seinfeld rocks, especially the earlier seasons...the show did get dumb towards the end. Still one of the funniest shows ever :rocker:

switz
Feb 14th, 2006, 03:51 AM
yes it was so wrong. I was also incensed when "The Nanny" made Moncia pose as an waitress in an eposide :mad: How degrading!! They will be judged when they die :devil:

switz
Feb 14th, 2006, 03:54 AM
i'm not usually one for generalisations but when someone says they dislike Seinfeld i feel quite comfortable writing them off as either very boring or too stupid to understand what the show is about.

It's the same with the Simpsons.

Granted a lot of people who like these shows don't actually know what the writers were trying to achieve (besides making billions of dollars :lol: )

I love it the most when someone says something like "The Office and Seinfeld are stupid. But Will & Grace and Friends are so clever. Jennifer Anniston is the best actress!!"

switz
Feb 14th, 2006, 03:59 AM
That's also the eposide where George gets shown at the tennis with a chocolate Sunday all over his face and his girlfriend dumps him using the "it's not you, it's me routine" - which is his routine, nobody uses the it's not you, it's me routine on him. Jerry goes out with a deaf lineswoman who George uses to lip read his ex-girlfriend's conversations. Kramer claims she doesn't know how to sign properly. Elaine pretends to be deaf to avoid talking to the hire care driver but gets caught hearing when Tom Hanks is the next passenger. Then Elaine gets him tickets to a rock concert because she feels bad and he goes deaf because he was right next the amp. Then the deaf lineswomen gets picked up to go the tennis and says she's deaf to the same driver and he goes insane and the eposide ends :lol:

The Monica has nothing to do with Monica aside from the fact that it was an exciting tournament and Kramer ruined it by being such a cluts.

WhatTheDeuce
Feb 14th, 2006, 04:05 AM
That's also the eposide where George gets shown at the tennis with a chocolate Sunday all over his face and his girlfriend dumps him using the "it's not you, it's me routine" - which is his routine, nobody uses the it's not you, it's me routine on him. Jerry goes out with a deaf lineswoman who George uses to lip read his ex-girlfriend's conversations. Kramer claims she doesn't know how to sign properly. Elaine pretends to be deaf to avoid talking to the hire care driver but gets caught hearing when Tom Hanks is the next passenger. Then Elaine gets him tickets to a rock concert because she feels bad and he goes deaf because he was right next the amp. Then the deaf lineswomen gets picked up to go the tennis and says she's deaf to the same driver and he goes insane and the eposide ends :lol:

The Monica has nothing to do with Monica aside from the fact that it was an exciting tournament and Kramer ruined it by being such a cluts.
:haha: :haha: :haha: :bowdown:

ptkten
Feb 14th, 2006, 07:04 AM
Great show. I can't believe I haven't seen this episode, though. I thought I'd seen almost all of them.

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Feb 14th, 2006, 07:34 AM
it was a great sho and i think your being too dramatic about it.

GoDominique
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:22 PM
Now I'm relieved and happy that I don't like it. :)

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:33 PM
Now I'm relieved and happy that I don't like it. :)
well lucky we dont care then aye. ;) :lol:

Sam L
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:43 PM
I thought it was funny and I'm still a big Monica Seles fan. She was probably laughing too. Lighten up. It's NOT about the stabbing. It's about the US Open 1995. Big difference.

tennnisfannn
Feb 14th, 2006, 01:56 PM
Seinfelf was smart and very funny...I had a friend who got so angry with the show because Jerry stepped on the Puerto Rican flag or something...And I was trying to get him to understand that it was not about disrespecting the flag...You have to have a certian amount of intelligence to understand the humor...:shrug:
i loved the show and still think it was one of the best shows on t.v of all time. But I also thought it was cheap to burn another nation's flag for the sake of of laugh. But seeing it was kramer who did it, i can laugh again:lol:

Petersmiler
Feb 14th, 2006, 02:03 PM
I love it when people judge others by what tv show they enjoy.

I enjoy both friends and Seinfeld, but have to confess that friends is, in my opinion, much funnier.

Seinfeld does tend to be cleverer, but clever does not always equal funny.

McAuley
Feb 14th, 2006, 03:19 PM
Controversial? :scratch:

switz
Feb 14th, 2006, 10:40 PM
I love it when people judge others by what tv show they enjoy.

I enjoy both friends and Seinfeld, but have to confess that friends is, in my opinion, much funnier.

Seinfeld does tend to be cleverer, but clever does not always equal funny.

i don't really judge most people by such narrow standards - just the people who take are aggressive towards me about it.

on the friends versus seinfeld i'm of the opinion that if you watched one episode of each you could easily think friends was much funnier - but to me watching a lot of each series really exposes friends as a pretty formulated show that gets a bit tired after i while.

each to their own though (except for godominque - you're a tool :) )

GoDominique
Feb 14th, 2006, 10:45 PM
I knew you would bite, switz. :lol:

selking
Feb 14th, 2006, 11:20 PM
no he ran into her stomach and it was funny.

switz
Feb 14th, 2006, 11:25 PM
I knew you would bite, switz. :lol:

surely you realise that i meant tool as term of endearment. we'd still be neanderthals without you :) you saved us :worship:

Kart
Feb 14th, 2006, 11:26 PM
Dammit I missed it again tonight :mad:.

Erika_Angel
Feb 14th, 2006, 11:27 PM
I am speechless .... I am without speech!

creep
Feb 15th, 2006, 10:18 AM
It was on today at 8pm on Paramount so I had the choice between it and watching the washing machine.

I'm still feeling dizzy.

:lol:

I knew it! I knew it! Youre still one of the good guys. ;) :)

Gandalf
Feb 15th, 2006, 10:35 AM
Talk about coincidence; they are showing Seinfeld again in one of the public tv channels in Spain and guess which episode they passed last night: that one :eek:

The episode wasn't too funny, but I don't think it was disrespectful towards Monica. And yes, it was the US'Open '93 :confused:

At some other point they showed the score of Pierce losing 3-6, 6-3, 7-5 to Baudone.

tennnisfannn
Feb 15th, 2006, 10:56 AM
I am speechless .... I am without speech!
:lol::lol::lol:
Boy I miss Elaine.

switz
Feb 15th, 2006, 11:09 AM
get...out!!