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tennisjay
Feb 11th, 2006, 06:36 PM
I keep reading tennis board after tennis board of WS fans and WS haters wanting them to leave tennis more hater than fans for obvious reasons, now those same haters want them back playing tennis. What gives haters? If I were the WS I wouldn't return back to tennis they both are wealthy young women who don't have to work another day in their life and probably happy wouldn't we all be that's what everyone strives for, make lots of money then retire. Let's face it womens tennis is getting what it deserve, poor attendence, fewer viewers and a lot of tennis commentators and sports writers bored and complaining about the decline in womens tennis. So there you WS haters got what you ask for.

VS Fan
Feb 11th, 2006, 06:45 PM
They are STILL here, just not competing as well as in the past. I think they will still make waves in tennis over the next few years.

starr
Feb 11th, 2006, 07:13 PM
I keep reading tennis board after tennis board of WS fans and WS haters wanting them to leave tennis more hater than fans for obvious reasons, now those same haters want them back playing tennis. What gives haters? If I were the WS I wouldn't return back to tennis they both are wealthy young women who don't have to work another day in their life and probably happy wouldn't we all be that's what everyone strives for, make lots of money then retire. Let's face it womens tennis is getting what it deserve, poor attendence, fewer viewers and a lot of tennis commentators and sports writers bored and complaining about the decline in womens tennis. So there you WS haters got what you ask for.

I think the sisters should take your advice. Definitely. They should strike back at women's tennis. Don't ever play another day. That'll show them.

terjw
Feb 11th, 2006, 07:18 PM
I keep reading tennis board after tennis board of WS fans and WS haters wanting them to leave tennis more hater than fans for obvious reasons, now those same haters want them back playing tennis. What gives haters? If I were the WS I wouldn't return back to tennis they both are wealthy young women who don't have to work another day in their life and probably happy wouldn't we all be that's what everyone strives for, make lots of money then retire. Let's face it womens tennis is getting what it deserve, poor attendence, fewer viewers and a lot of tennis commentators and sports writers bored and complaining about the decline in womens tennis. So there you WS haters got what you ask for.

First of all from a tennis/WTA point of view: No single player is above women's tennis and the WTA. Women's tennis will do fine with or without the WS.

What I want to see is one way or the other:
Either: they should do something else and leave tennis if that's what they want and it makes them happy.
Or: do what it takes - put the effort in - to get back. And start treating ALL tournaments seriously. Not just the slams - although it was joke at the AO - their preparation was awful. Forget about the shopping trips, the fashion shows etc. The days they can do load of other things and just waltz into tournaments under-prepared are gone. If they continue to play I want to see them make it a priority and put the same amount of effort that every other player makes.

Sorry I've lumped them into one. Obviously could be that one of the sisters may want to stay in the game and the other retire.

JulesVerne
Feb 11th, 2006, 09:43 PM
First of all from a tennis/WTA point of view: No single player is above women's tennis and the WTA. Women's tennis will do fine with or without the WS.


Totally agree - the game will always be greater than any individual player.

Veritas
Feb 11th, 2006, 10:16 PM
If I were the WS I wouldn't return back to tennis they both are wealthy young women who don't have to work another day in their life and probably happy wouldn't we all be that's what everyone strives for, make lots of money then retire.

Fact is, I get the impression both sisters are natural born competitors. Both are too proud to leave the sport without a bang. Wouldn't any tennis player want to end their career like Graf did - with a final GS win in their pocket and being ranked inside the top-5?

Direwolf
Feb 12th, 2006, 04:15 PM
I keep reading tennis board after tennis board of WS fans and WS haters wanting them to leave tennis more hater than fans for obvious reasons, now those same haters want them back playing tennis. What gives haters? If I were the WS I wouldn't return back to tennis they both are wealthy young women who don't have to work another day in their life and probably happy wouldn't we all be that's what everyone strives for, make lots of money then retire. Let's face it womens tennis is getting what it deserve, poor attendence, fewer viewers and a lot of tennis commentators and sports writers bored and complaining about the decline in womens tennis. So there you WS haters got what you ask for.

Are you one of those haters?
They are so in love with the sport, n even though how much they want to leave it and just continue making money from other things, they still cant leave the sport.
They have got each other so strongly that they can seldom afford training session with other coaches.

leeber
Feb 12th, 2006, 04:41 PM
I thought the presence of the wiliams sister brought tennis to a new level.. so yeap i would wan to watch them play as well as they did before, which WTA will be the poorer for, if they don't :sad:

Veenut
Feb 12th, 2006, 05:38 PM
[QUOTE]First of all from a tennis/WTA point of view: No single player is above women's tennis and the WTA. Women's tennis will do fine with or without the WS.

Your point is well taken, but tennis does much better when the WS are involved. Note all their competitors reaction when they do get a win over any one of them. They are to tennis like Tiger is to golf, in that more people tune in when Tiger or WS are contending for a big win than other players. There are empirical data to support this fact. Yes, the game does go on but it so bland and dull without the sisters.

WhatTheDeuce
Feb 12th, 2006, 05:51 PM
I think it was more that people thought the WS dominating (winning all the slams/rarely losing, etc) was bad for the sport, not them being in the mix and playing well.

John.
Feb 12th, 2006, 05:54 PM
I am not a fan but I think they are great for tennis. I don't think the game needs them, but they do add that extra bit of spice into any tournament that they enter.

manu32
Feb 12th, 2006, 06:24 PM
the game needs them because too much defensive players at the top.......the ratio winners/unforced errors is awful...some players are keeping the ball on the court and waiting for errors or winners with a real talent ,i admit but it's boring.....
please,WS and lindsay.....

Chrissie-fan
Feb 12th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Tennis, like any non-team sport (where you're having your home city or whatever to identify with), needs strong personalities and intense rivalries among top players to keep a mass audience interested. The Williams sisters provide both, and so they are of course good for the game.

new-york
Feb 12th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Tennis, like any non-team sport (where you're having your home city or whatever to identify with), needs strong personalities and intense rivalries among top players to keep a mass audience interested. The Williams sisters provide both, and so they are of course good for the game.

:)

Ryan
Feb 12th, 2006, 08:32 PM
I never thought they were 'bad' for tennis, I just didn't like them or their style of play. I think though, 5 years after I started watching tennis, that I appreciate their games more and have grown to like them as people too. I want them back playing well, even if it just means that I can cheer for them to lose. :p

tennisjay
Feb 12th, 2006, 10:17 PM
I brought this up yesterday because I visited a number of tennis chat boards and the people who were always hard the WS saying they were bad for tennis, they didn't like their attitude or their dad, and amoung other things. The same people were acting so concern about their health and question were they really injuried or not my question is why do they care? Shouldn't they be happy the WS are not playing tennis after all that's what most of the WS haters wanted in the first place.

Stamp Paid
Feb 12th, 2006, 10:27 PM
Because as much as they hate them and they hate the power game, they know how boring it is watching other women play.

Diesel
Feb 12th, 2006, 10:31 PM
I never thought they were 'bad' for tennis, I just didn't like them or their style of play. I think though, 5 years after I started watching tennis, that I appreciate their games more and have grown to like them as people too. I want them back playing well, even if it just means that I can cheer for them to lose. :p

It's interesting that you say this, because one way or the other Serena and Venus have people invested in them. There simply is no room for indifference with either player. I've always found it interesting how they had people disliking them, their style of play, or attitude and their domination, but then flip the coin and you still have people disliking their lack of committment, small number of tournaments, style of play, dress. The Williams Sisters have people in the constant mode of thinking.

new-york
Feb 12th, 2006, 10:32 PM
I brought this up yesterday because I visited a number of tennis chat boards and the people who were always hard the WS saying they were bad for tennis, they didn't like their attitude or their dad, and amoung other things. The same people were acting so concern about their health and question were they really injuried or not my question is why do they care? Shouldn't they be happy the WS are not playing tennis after all that's what most of the WS haters wanted in the first place.

you tell. the sis are here, they criticize, they are not here, they criticize.

sometimes you just feel like: "what about your fave? still look at her?"

sunset
Feb 12th, 2006, 10:40 PM
I keep reading tennis board after tennis board of WS fans and WS haters wanting them to leave tennis more hater than fans for obvious reasons, now those same haters want them back playing tennis. What gives haters? If I were the WS I wouldn't return back to tennis they both are wealthy young women who don't have to work another day in their life and probably happy wouldn't we all be that's what everyone strives for, make lots of money then retire. Let's face it womens tennis is getting what it deserve, poor attendence, fewer viewers and a lot of tennis commentators and sports writers bored and complaining about the decline in womens tennis. So there you WS haters got what you ask for.


I donít know what boards youíre talking about but Iím not seeing any such views. Attendance has never been better and there are sell out crowds in every event.
Iím on the computer all day and have not seen or heard of one single article referring to a plea for a Williams return to tennis.
I think you are a frustrated Williams fan who has nothing better to do no that they have retired.

tennisjay
Feb 12th, 2006, 10:47 PM
It's interesting that you say this, because one way or the other Serena and Venus have people invested in them. There simply is no room for indifference with either player. I've always found it interesting how they had people disliking them, their style of play, or attitude and their domination, but then flip the coin and you still have people disliking their lack of committment, small number of tournaments, style of play, dress. The Williams Sisters have people in the constant mode of thinking.


Right On Point :worship:

tennisjay
Feb 12th, 2006, 10:49 PM
I donít know what boards youíre talking about but Iím not seeing any such views. Attendance has never been better and there are sell out crowds in every event.
Iím on the computer all day and have not seen or heard of one single article referring to a plea for a Williams return to tennis.
I think you are a frustrated Williams fan who has nothing better to do no that they have retired.


I have other favorites and they all beat yours. :p

vogus
Feb 13th, 2006, 12:56 AM
i guess this is a troll thread. Until stated otherwise, the Williams are still tennis players first and foremost. It's not like they have left the game for other pursuits. For whatever reason, they just aren't playing as well as before. It happens to all players sooner or later, and people should accept this. They are still a big draw card and their real fans aren't going to jump ship.

Veenut
Feb 13th, 2006, 04:55 PM
[QUOTE]Iím on the computer all day and have not seen or heard of one single article referring to a plea for a Williams return to tennis.
I think you are a frustrated Williams fan who has nothing better to do no that they have retired.

It is very obvious that you have a very warped view of reality because Both Venus and Serena won Majors last year and played in the AO 2006. Therefore you retiring them is evidence of your own warped thinking. :o It is a good thing to first have the facts straight before disputing the statement of others.

Veenut
Feb 13th, 2006, 05:13 PM
Hey Justinium, you are such a coward for hiding and calling me a racists. Of all persons to be making such a charge when clearly, you have demonstrated such tendencies repeatedly. Anyway, explain to me intelligently what is racists about supporting black athletes. :confused: I support athlethes from different racial and ethnic backgrounds from a variety of sports. I judge people by their character not by the color of their skin, something that you might find difficult to comprehend.

There is just one thing I expect out of assholes at all times and that is stinking, filthy, toxic faecal matter, and that is putting it mildly. Don't even start with me. :fiery:

AkademiQ
Feb 13th, 2006, 05:43 PM
Iím on the computer all day and have not seen or heard of one single article referring to a plea for a Williams return to tennis.
I think you are a frustrated Williams fan who has nothing better to do no that they have retired.

Says the person who is at his computer ALL DAY and with parts of that ALL DAY computer time has room to find and post Serena and Venus related material :retard:

Aquanetta
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:13 PM
I keep reading tennis board after tennis board of WS fans and WS haters wanting them to leave tennis more hater than fans for obvious reasons, now those same haters want them back playing tennis. What gives haters? If I were the WS I wouldn't return back to tennis they both are wealthy young women who don't have to work another day in their life and probably happy wouldn't we all be that's what everyone strives for, make lots of money then retire. Let's face it womens tennis is getting what it deserve, poor attendence, fewer viewers and a lot of tennis commentators and sports writers bored and complaining about the decline in womens tennis. So there you WS haters got what you ask for.

Say what you want, make excuses but it does not hide the fact that OUR GIRLS ARE IN A SLUMP. Savor the (humble) pie slowly. Wouldn't want you to choke. :wavey:

Denise4925
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:24 PM
First of all from a tennis/WTA point of view: No single player is above women's tennis and the WTA. Women's tennis will do fine with or without the WS.

What I want to see is one way or the other:
Either: they should do something else and leave tennis if that's what they want and it makes them happy.
Or: do what it takes - put the effort in - to get back. And start treating ALL tournaments seriously. Not just the slams - although it was joke at the AO - their preparation was awful. Forget about the shopping trips, the fashion shows etc. The days they can do load of other things and just waltz into tournaments under-prepared are gone. If they continue to play I want to see them make it a priority and put the same amount of effort that every other player makes.

Sorry I've lumped them into one. Obviously could be that one of the sisters may want to stay in the game and the other retire.

Blah, blah blah blah :rolleyes:

Same old rhetoric spewed by tennis commentators. You can always tell when the commentators get a bandwagon started. :lol:

Do you think you could come up with something new and original to say?

WhatTheDeuce
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:26 PM
Blah, blah blah blah :rolleyes:

Same old rhetoric spewed by tennis commentators. You can always tell when the commentators get a bandwagon started. :lol:

Do you think you could come up with something new and original to say?
Who cares if what he/she said is new and original or not, it's the truth. :shrug:

Denise4925
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:29 PM
Tennis, like any non-team sport (where you're having your home city or whatever to identify with), needs strong personalities and intense rivalries among top players to keep a mass audience interested. The Williams sisters provide both, and so they are of course good for the game.
You're always so logical and positive.

Denise4925
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:30 PM
Who cares if what he/she said is new and original or not, it's the truth. :shrug:
What's the truth? Looks like an opinion to me.

WhatTheDeuce
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:32 PM
What's the truth? Looks like an opinion to me.
Well it's an opinion that has some pretty strong supporting evidence.

I just hope that Venus, and particularly Serena, will find the fire in them again. That's all I'm gonna say.

Denise4925
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:35 PM
Well it's an opinion that has some pretty strong supporting evidence.


Alas, another opinion. :) But, I'm glad you wish my favs well. :yeah: