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Andrew..
Feb 9th, 2006, 01:54 AM
She's lost her last six matches in a row, including a 1r exit to Vasilisa Bardina at ITF Midland today. She's won two matches since July, and her ranking is going to die after her Memphis points come off.

Does anyone know why she's having these problems? It's sad to see a player who was once close to the top ten fall like this.

DutchieGirl
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:00 AM
2 words: her coach! ;)

Her coach also coaches Anna-Lena, and she's not exactly doing well right now either...

switz
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:00 AM
her game is too flat - effective when everything is going right - absolutely horrid when it's not.

i also blame the cosmic tidal waves admitted henceforth by the crab nebular.

switz
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:01 AM
2 words: her coach! ;)

Her coach also coaches Anna-Lena, and she's not exactly doing well right now either...

the coach is an idiot when it comes to Groenfeld that's for sure - she is clearly not fit yet she plays every week.

You also just opened a door for JR btw :lol:

DutchieGirl
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:02 AM
the coach is an idiot when it comes to Groenfeld that's for sure - she is clearly not fit yet she plays every week.

You also just opened a door for JR btw :lol:

:haha: Yeah, but we both know he was gonna get his ass in here and say something anyway! ;)

Andrew..
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:05 AM
Watching Meghann play is horrible now. It's clear she has no confidence in any of her shots anymore, not even in the serve. She doesn't hit through the ball on her groundies, and watching her hit a backhand half the time is like watching a club player.

switz
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:08 AM
Watching Meghann play is horrible now. It's clear she has no confidence in any of her shots anymore, not even in the serve. She doesn't hit through the ball on her groundies, and watching her hit a backhand half the time is like watching a club player.

she is the female todd reid except she used to be good.

no offense todd :)

DutchieGirl
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:11 AM
she is the male todd reid except she used to be good.

:haha: :spit:

Solitaire
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:37 AM
It sucks cause just a few years ago I thought she would be a top 20 player for a long time. Hopefully she gets some confidence and regains her old form.

Sadka
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:50 AM
:eek:

vogus
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:52 AM
She's lost her last six matches in a row, including a 1r exit to Vasilisa Bardina at ITF Midland today. She's won two matches since July, and her ranking is going to die after her Memphis points come off.

Does anyone know why she's having these problems? It's sad to see a player who was once close to the top ten fall like this.


I think she just never learned to assert herself and has a total psychological dependence on her coach. Shaughnessy has been hanging on by a thread for about the last two years, with only one or two good results a year keeping her in the singles Top 100. At least she still had doubles, but then Petrova dumped her because her level dropped. Meghan has really been a basket case since the beginning of '04 or even earlier. She needed to fire Font de Mora a long time ago and get her own coach. She had the talent to have been a steady Top 20 player for the last five years.

Paule22
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:11 AM
acording to wtatour.com she is already with a new coach: Andrew Florent.

But that doesn't seem to help either. :( If she's ok with it, she should concentrate on Doubles, try to make some money, and then try something else.

RJWCapriati
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:28 AM
Yes she is on a slide.....but I think Sugiyama is on a bigger one in singles!

SAEKeithSerena
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:43 AM
oh ai is on such a horrible slide. and sprem's continues.....

VeeDaQueen
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:47 AM
maybe she just isn't good.

DevilishAttitude
Feb 9th, 2006, 07:47 AM
maybe she just isn't good.

Well she's beat Venus twice so...

The reason is very obvious to me

US Open 1R: Sesil Karatantcheva beats Meghann Shaughnessy 2-6 7-5 7-5

Wasn't Meghann totally controlling the match and had MP in the 2nd set at 5-3 before Sesil started moonballing. And then she came back in the 3rd and still lost.

Last time I saw her play was against Likhovtseva at Wimby, Meghann was serving well and was hitting some good forehands but because she was inconsisent and Lena could handle the pace and served well she was never really close to winning.

She definetly has the game to comeback but it's seems unlikely now :sad:

Foot's Fingers
Feb 9th, 2006, 07:49 AM
anyway

Good win, Vasilisa!!! :woohoo:

*Jean*
Feb 9th, 2006, 01:12 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

*Jool*
Feb 9th, 2006, 01:32 PM
no offense but : a loss to Vasilisa Bardina ?
WTF Meg ? :eek: :shrug:

~Carsten~
Feb 9th, 2006, 01:34 PM
It's a pity, what is going an with Meghann! I hope she plays better soon! :)

GoDominique
Feb 9th, 2006, 01:41 PM
I think she just never learned to assert herself and has a total psychological dependence on her coach. Shaughnessy has been hanging on by a thread for about the last two years, with only one or two good results a year keeping her in the singles Top 100. At least she still had doubles, but then Petrova dumped her because her level dropped. Meghan has really been a basket case since the beginning of '04 or even earlier. She needed to fire Font de Mora a long time ago and get her own coach. She had the talent to have been a steady Top 20 player for the last five years.
Exactly. But that's what De Mora's methods do to the players he "coaches".

God, I pray that ALG gets away from him. The sooner the better.

pla
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:00 PM
Well she's beat Venus twice so...

The reason is very obvious to me

US Open 1R: Sesil Karatantcheva beats Meghann Shaughnessy 2-6 7-5 7-5

Wasn't Meghann totally controlling the match and had MP in the 2nd set at 5-3 before Sesil started moonballing. And then she came back in the 3rd and still lost.

Last time I saw her play was against Likhovtseva at Wimby, Meghann was serving well and was hitting some good forehands but because she was inconsisent and Lena could handle the pace and served well she was never really close to winning.

She definetly has the game to comeback but it's seems unlikely now :sad:

Apparently you have NO idea of the game called tennis. Why don't you just stick to trolling? ;)

pla
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:04 PM
She's lost her last six matches in a row, including a 1r exit to Vasilisa Bardina at ITF Midland today. She's won two matches since July, and her ranking is going to die after her Memphis points come off.

Does anyone know why she's having these problems? It's sad to see a player who was once close to the top ten fall like this.

A lot of people pointed out the coach. This guy never made her go to the next level of her game. switz said it very well- her game is too flat. If it's on, it works against the players outside of the top20, but if it's off.. it's really off.

Nowadays 2/3rds of the top100 has as strong game as Meghan. The problem is not only she didn't get to another level but stucking she lost confidence and that makes her results even worse.

It's so sad because she could have had a very ice career until now. But it's never too late. I hope for her SO MUCH she finds a normal coach, a real human being, who can help her develop her game and give her that special feeling to be calm.

vogus
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Exactly. But that's what De Mora's methods do to the players he "coaches".

God, I pray that ALG gets away from him. The sooner the better.


I sort of see a pattern with Meghan and ALG. They both spend a couple of years in the trenches working their asses off, then they have a breakout year (for Meghan it was '01, for ALG, was last year), where they play a huge number of matches. The following season you see the physical and mental wear and tear. Shaughnessy never really bounced back.

I think de Mora deserves a chance to go further with ALG since he is the coach who got her to the Top 20. But if she is still floundering by mid-summer, she needs to fire him, start fresh, and not make the same mistake Shaughnessy made by sticking with a losing plan.

Ellery
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:17 PM
Meghann :sad: :o

DevilishAttitude
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:24 PM
Apparently you have NO idea of the game called tennis. Why don't you just stick to trolling? ;)

Erm, how do you come to that conclusion :confused: :rolleyes:

Keep ta..., nah I won't say...

RJWCapriati
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:31 PM
Well she's beat Venus twice so...

The reason is very obvious to me

US Open 1R: Sesil Karatantcheva beats Meghann Shaughnessy 2-6 7-5 7-5

Wasn't Meghann totally controlling the match and had MP in the 2nd set at 5-3 before Sesil started moonballing. And then she came back in the 3rd and still lost.

Last time I saw her play was against Likhovtseva at Wimby, Meghann was serving well and was hitting some good forehands but because she was inconsisent and Lena could handle the pace and served well she was never really close to winning.

She definetly has the game to comeback but it's seems unlikely now :sad:


stupid drug addict Sesil!!!!!!!!

pla
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:46 PM
Erm, how do you come to that conclusion :confused: :rolleyes:

Keep ta..., nah I won't say...

After reading your posts during a long period of time :lol:

Yeah, you have only the guts to "saying it" on private don't you? ;)

*JR*
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:32 PM
the coach is an idiot when it comes to Groenfeld that's for sure - she is clearly not fit yet she plays every week.

You also just opened a door for JR btw :lol:
Maybe, but a far-too-young Meghann once err, "opened a door" for Rafi! :devil:

vogus
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:35 PM
Maybe, but a far-too-young Meghann once err, "opened a door" for Rafi! :devil:


evidence? :confused:

Libertango
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:41 PM
Ouch OMG poor Meghann :eek: It sounds bad, but I'd kind of forgotten about her, so didn't realise how far she'd slipped! I remember a few years back she played Venus at the USO. It was 2000 I think, when Venus was winning everything, but Meghann really pushed her. It was a really close first set, a night match and Meghann was playing really well. I remember the commentators saying that she was the future of American tennis!! Whatever happened to that. And to think she's reached the YEC and now look at her!

CrossCourt~Rally
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:44 PM
evidence? :confused:

He probobly over heard it from a coach at a 25K :rolleyes:

:wavey:

vogus
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:47 PM
He probobly over heard it from a coach at a 25K :rolleyes:

:wavey:


well, that would at least be a source showing he didn't make it up, wouldn't it?

:wavey:

TheBoiledEgg
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:48 PM
Vasilisa is good :p
just watch.

-sugi-
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:50 PM
:sad: Meg

*JR*
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:15 PM
evidence? :confused:
There were never Criminal Charges (because Meg wouldn't testify in court) though she's admitted it to some tennis writers. In other words, not every Criminal = Convicted. ;)

vogus
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:25 PM
There were never Criminal Charges (because Meg wouldn't testify in court) though she's admitted it to some tennis writers. In other words, not every Criminal = Convicted. ;)


Why would she tell this to tennis writers if she didn't want to testify on it? Doesn't make any sense.

*JR*
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:41 PM
Why would she tell this to tennis writers if she didn't want to testify on it? Doesn't make any sense.
She didn't volunteer it, another player she told about it did, and then the writers asked her about it. (Meg reportedly gave "varying and inconsistent answers", thus sort of confirming that there was something to hide). And maybe Meg was pissed @ Rafi, like if he was screwing around, so didn't mind him being publicly villified. That doesn't mean she necessarily wanted him in jail.

Andrew..
Feb 9th, 2006, 05:32 PM
Well she's beat Venus twice so...

The reason is very obvious to me

US Open 1R: Sesil Karatantcheva beats Meghann Shaughnessy 2-6 7-5 7-5

Wasn't Meghann totally controlling the match and had MP in the 2nd set at 5-3 before Sesil started moonballing. And then she came back in the 3rd and still lost.

Last time I saw her play was against Likhovtseva at Wimby, Meghann was serving well and was hitting some good forehands but because she was inconsisent and Lena could handle the pace and served well she was never really close to winning.

She definetly has the game to comeback but it's seems unlikely now :sad:
Her game was sucking hard before that. The loss that really killed her was in Miami against Schiavone, 7-6 in the third. She was having a decent year before that one.

DevilishAttitude
Feb 9th, 2006, 08:28 PM
After reading your posts during a long period of time :lol:

Yeah, you have only the guts to "saying it" on private don't you? ;)

I don't want to get banned again. That's why I'm not saying anything about it :)

Her game was sucking hard before that. The loss that really killed her was in Miami against Schiavone, 7-6 in the third. She was having a decent year before that one.

No it wasn't.

Record after Schiavone results until US Open was 12-11

Record after Karatantcheva results until now is 1-9

And her record for 2005 was 7-5 which is more average.