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Tennace
Feb 7th, 2006, 02:43 AM
Here is a suggestion.

For each tournament there could be a limited number of players that can play and there could be qualifying. The qualifying would not be any different, day 1 matches could be qualifying. Heres an example.

Say Antwerp had 60 people sign up. Whatever the size of the draw is, could be the # of direct entries. So there is 32 direct entries and 28 other players. The 28 other players could do qualifying, which would be day one matches. Divide the draw size by 4, 32/4 = 8, and that is how many players get in from qualies. So there would be 40 players playing day 2. The top 16 move on to day 3 into the draw. Day 4 would be 8 players left in the draw. Quarterfinals would be 4 players, semifinals and finals would still be 1. This would make it more realistic to the WTA Tour. This is just a suggestion and it only makes top players pick one less day of picks.

I could do entry lists if no one would and set up the direct entries and qualifying lists. ALSO, no one would be neglected from playing a tournament, so the size of qualifying could be anything.

This probably shouldnt be in effect for slams. This is just a suggestion and I wanted to see what people thought.

Taz Warrior
Feb 7th, 2006, 10:19 AM
Sounds like a good idea - it becomes more realistic as lower ranked (and new) players would have to earn their way up the rankings

kj-
Feb 7th, 2006, 01:15 PM
I don't really get your idea Matt, so you would say there will be 4 bracket in qualifying round? and 2 best players from each bracket will play in the Main Draw?

How about if we keep playing knock out system in the whole tournament. we cut Main Draw only for 28 players (Draw 32), then for qualifying we do knock out system but only in one day.. so we do 3 rounds (if there are 32 players in qualification) with only one day picks.. what do you think?

SloKid
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:25 PM
As you said in the Paris TT thread Matt this could be applied in Antwerp, but what about like having 26 or something players qualifying directly, others pick on day one and top 6 qualify for day 2 and from then on it's the knock-out system.

Tennace
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:26 PM
As you said in the Paris TT thread Matt this could be applied in Antwerp, but what about like having 26 or something players qualifying directly, others pick on day one and top 6 qualify for day 2 and from then on it's the knock-out system.
That would be good but then would the draw be done randomly?? Some people may find it rigged or will it just be there problem??

Or would it be done by ranking?

SloKid
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:26 PM
I don't really get your idea Matt, so you would say there will be 4 bracket in qualifying round? and 2 best players from each bracket will play in the Main Draw?

How about if we keep playing knock out system in the whole tournament. we cut Main Draw only for 28 players (Draw 32), then for qualifying we do knock out system but only in one day.. so we do 3 rounds (if there are 32 players in qualification) with only one day picks.. what do you think?
This sounds good actually.

Tennace
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:27 PM
I don't really get your idea Matt, so you would say there will be 4 bracket in qualifying round? and 2 best players from each bracket will play in the Main Draw?

How about if we keep playing knock out system in the whole tournament. we cut Main Draw only for 28 players (Draw 32), then for qualifying we do knock out system but only in one day.. so we do 3 rounds (if there are 32 players in qualification) with only one day picks.. what do you think?
Im a bit confused?

SloKid
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:27 PM
That would be good but then would the draw be done randomly?? Some people may find it rigged or will it just be there problem??

Or would it be done by ranking?
Well we could have 8 seeds and others are drawn randomly or something.

CooCooCachoo
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:29 PM
I am confused :lol:

I will have a look when I am less tired and not in a hurry :angel:

Tennace
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:29 PM
I think there should be more qualy spots open like 6 or 8 since there are more players coming through there.

But your saying 28 players get direct entries, then the rest play qualifying on day 1. The 4 best get into the draw and the draw begins day 2. Is this right?

SloKid
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:29 PM
Im a bit confused?
It means we have a knock-out system in qualies, but only pick on one day.

So I like play against someone in the 1st round of qualies and have 10 points, the other one has 9 and I go through. There I play against the best from another pairing and the same result is taken into account, the 10. And so for 3 rounds, with the winners going through. I hope that made some sense :unsure:

SloKid
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:30 PM
I am confused :lol:

I will have a look when I am less tired and not in a hurry :angel:
We still have enough time :lol:

Tennace
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:32 PM
It means we have a knock-out system in qualies, but only pick on one day.

So I like play against someone in the 1st round of qualies and have 10 points, the other one has 9 and I go through. There I play against the best from another pairing and the same result is taken into account, the 10. And so for 3 rounds, with the winners going through. I hope that made some sense :unsure:
Oh I get it.

Sounds great! In a 32 person draw though, how many players get direct entries, WCs (for local players I guess), and qualy spots?
Hows this...
24 Direct Entries
2 WCS
6 Qualifiers

OR

25 Direct Entries (or 24)
3 WCs (or 4)
4 Qualifiers

Which sound best

Tennace
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:34 PM
also Commitments should close either the Thursday or Friday before the tournament begins so players know who plays qualifying and so final entry lists can be made.

SloKid
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:37 PM
I think the 1st option sounds better

kj-
Feb 7th, 2006, 08:54 PM
Yes Milan, you've got the points.. you are a smart guy! ;) :p

do you guys have MSN?

ok, we do the list by ranking.. and absolutely we should have tournament limit.. or play challenger if we get bigger and bigger.. :o but we think about this later.. :o
or we can do unlimited qualification

so here for example qualification

SloKid vs. Koje
Teenace vs. CoocooCachoo
Bart vs. Bram
Sharapova vs. Williams

1st day score :

SloKid 4 vs. Koje 7
Teenace 6 vs. CoocooCachoo 3
Bart 5 vs. Bram 2
Sharapova 4 vs. Williams 3

SloKid 4 lost to Koje 7
Teenace 6 def. CoocooCachoo 3
Bart 5 def. Bram 2
Sharapova 4 def. Williams 3

Koje 7 def. Tennace 6
Bart 5 def. Sharapova 4

Koje 7 def. Bart 5

Koje qualify just in one day with the same picks.. :woohoo: :p

2nd day, Koje can play in Main Draw

24 Direct Entries
2 WCS
6 Qualifiers
this is perfect.. or we can consider also depends on Qualifying Round size..

sounds good?

Tennace
Feb 7th, 2006, 09:07 PM
Here is the current Antwerp Entry List. Ties in positions were given to whoever entered first which I think is the fairest way to win ties.

Bolded players are seeded
us= unseeded

Seed Ranking Player
1 2 daniela86
2 3 tucker1989
3 4 Deck
4 6 Nir
5 7 416 man
6 7 LUXXXAS
7 12 Gavnich77
8 12 naldo

us 14 tuna
us 15 ghosts
us 15 Adam_ads_n
us 15 QuickyMonster
us 15 silverwhite
us 21 Slokid
us 24 ..ikke..
us 24 east players
us 24 Ceze
us 24 HTE
us 24 nave 2
us 24 ~PPP~
us 24 ^bibi^
us 24 azmad_88
us 24 KuzyIsNo1
us 34 Mommiej

Qualifying List
Q1 34 Bubba08
Q2 39 Tal1985
Q3 39 Sonic the hedgehog
Q4 39 SilK
Q5 43 Buitenzorg
Q6 45 Chris 84
Q7 45 Tennace
Q8 45 Yasmine

us 45 jtammer
us 45 ZAK
us 45 ~~*Elena.D*~~
us 45 WhatTheDeuce
us 45 Bus
us 57 Bart
us 57 E.Dementieva
us 57 JS
us 57 TennisPlayingFox
us 57 cats_pajamas
us 71 tks
us 71 KimC&MariaSNo1's
us 71 Champion88
us ur I?Lindsay
us ur Davenselesport
us ur Volcanic Tennis
us ur soporiceffect
us ur tennisguy21
us ur Laurens_DBLL

Tennace
Feb 7th, 2006, 09:23 PM
I made the Antwerp thread. How does it look?

kj-
Feb 7th, 2006, 09:25 PM
looks good! ;)