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Volcana
May 8th, 2002, 04:21 PM
rk - rank
NEXT - Ranking points after Berlin
CURR - Current ranking points
2001 - Berlin points from last year
2002 - Berlin points from this year
BOLD - Players still active this week
rk NEXT = CURR - 2001 + 2002

03 3699 = 3699 - 0000 + 0000 K.CLIJSTERS
04 3525 = 3363 - 0000 + 0162 S.WILLIAMS

05 3360 = 3360 - 0000 + 0000 M.SELES
06 3350 = 3350 - 0000 + 0000 L.DAVENPORT
07 3338 = 3508 - 0170 + 0000 M.HINGIS

08 3074 = 3074 - 0000 + 0000 J.DOKIC
09 3059 = 3112 - 0210 + 00157 J.HENIN

10 2174 = 2152 - 0061 + 0082 S.TESTUD
11 1871 = 2252 - 0483 + 0102 A.MAURESMO

12 1707 = 1705 - 0054 + 0056 S.FARINA-ELIA (54 points off as 18th tour exits.)
13 1618 = 1488 - 0000 + 0130 D.HANTUCHOVA

14 1505 = 1546 - 0059 + 0020 M.SHAUGHNESSY (Drop berlin 01, add Gold Coast)
15 1441 = 1441 - 0000 + 0000 E.DEMENTIEVA (17th is 30, so the 1 point is not added)
16 1411 = 1412 - 0001 + 0000 N.TAUZIAT
17 1312 = 1337 - 0079 + 0056 A.SANCHEZ
18 1256 = 1206 - 0000 + 0050 I.TULYAGANOVA
19 1178 = 1147 - 0000 + 0031 T.TANASUGARN
20 1153 = 1216 - 0063 + 0000 P.SCHNYDER

* Serena pretty much has to win the tournament it to take over the #3 ranking. With Kim out of there the bonus point situation isn't that good.

* Jelena or Justine could get the #5 ranking by winning the tournament.

Berlin points
CH 275 + bonus
FR 193 + bonus
SF 124 + bonus
QF 69 + bonus
R3 38 + bonus
R2 23 + bonus

Debbie Foy
May 8th, 2002, 04:28 PM
okokok--this topics not silly junks--good visials with points--interesting for this thread---good ones to see what the ladys got to do to move up for points rankins..thx....

Volcana
May 8th, 2002, 04:33 PM
Now there's a backfisted compliment ...

"Topaz"
May 8th, 2002, 05:20 PM
Very good ranking points snapshot, Volcana. By the way, where do you get players' last year points? I used to get them from Jannak's site, 'WTA - One Year' link, but lately, nada. That link redirects me to some Crosswinds.net site. Any other source?

Volcana
May 8th, 2002, 05:24 PM
http://www.tenniscorner.net

Click on "Rankings"

Click on "Ranking Points"

For the top 100 players (I think), you'll notice that their ranking points are listed. Youmay not have noticed that the number are a link. Click the ranking point number itself, and it will bring you to a breakdown of that players ranking by tournament.

Dokic#1
May 8th, 2002, 05:26 PM
Jannaks site still works..

Jelena didnt play her match today did she??
well Serena has a great chance to get up to number 3 by RG and Henin has a great chance at number 5 thats great!

"Topaz"
May 8th, 2002, 06:03 PM
Many thanks, Volcana. I really appreciate it.

By the way, Dokic#1
Jannaks site still works.
Yes it does, but please go to that site, try the following link and let me know: 'Current Rankings' heading - 'One Year' link. Maybe my firewall is blocking it.

Volcana
May 8th, 2002, 06:03 PM
Dokic d Pierce

Fingon
May 8th, 2002, 06:39 PM
There is an error there.

Justine is earning 46 points, but as her 17th best results is 59 points she isn't adding anything for this tournamet.

it's simply = 3112 - 210 + 59 = 2961. She will start adding points when she has more than 59 points. Dokic's point are right but the breakdown is wrong.

she has now 3074 - 32 + 40 - 8 = 3074.

That is because the 32 points she earned last year weren't computed towards her ranking neither are the 40 points she has earned so far.

more correct for Justine would be: 3112 -210 + 46 + 13 = 2961.

Kim is 3699 as she has one point off from another tournament, she didn't play Berlin but she does have points off.

Serena, Monica and Lindsay are correct.

LucasArg
May 8th, 2002, 09:43 PM
So, that means that Justine or Jelena winning it put Martina in #8:eek:

Serena has good chances to become n#3, but this is a difficult court, and there is a lot of good players.

Good luck Serena and Jelena:wavey:

Darkheart
May 9th, 2002, 12:16 AM
*03 3699 = 3699 - 0000 (because not best 17) + 0000 (because not best 17) K.CLIJSTERS
04 3424 = 3363 - 0000 + 0061 S.WILLIAMS (3rd round)

05 3360 = 3360 - 0000 + 0000 M.SELES
06 3350 = 3350 - 0000 + 0000 L.DAVENPORT
07 3338 = 3508 - 0170 + 0000 M.HINGIS

*08 3074 = 3074 - 0000 (because not best 17) + 0000 (because 40 is not better than 69 [current 17th]) J.DOKIC (3rd round)
*09 2961 = 3112 - 0210 + 59 (better of 46 or 59 [new 17th]) J.HENIN (3rd round)

* need to be corrected

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S.WILLIAMS
if she wins beating (SCHETT + MALEEVA + MAURESMO + DOKIC + CAPRIATI)
max points = 3363 - 0000 + (275 + 23 + 15 + 43 + 43 + 75)
= 3363 - 0000 + 474 = 3837
= she will be #3

J.DOKIC
if she wins beating (PIERCE + HANTUCHOVA + SMASHNOVA + WILLIAMS + CAPRIATI)
max points = 3074 - 0000 + (275 + 2 + 35 + 15 + 50 + 75) - current 17th
= 3074 - 0000 + 452 - 69 = 3457
= she will be #4 (if S.WILLIAMS loses in 3r) or #5 (if S.WILLIAMS makes qf or better)

J.HENIN
if she wins beating (MUELLER + LIKHOVTSEVA + SANCHEZ-VICARIO + CAPRIATI + WILLIAMS)
max points = 3112 - 0210 + (275 + 8 + 10 + 23 + 75 + 50)
= 3112 - 0210 + 441 = 3343
= she will be #7

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M.HINGIS can end up no lower than #8 because if:

a. J.DOKIC wins then J.HENIN can have max of 3211
b. J.HENIN wins then J.DOKIC can have max of 3300

so therefore J.DOKIC and J.HENIN cannot both pass M.HINGIS, only one of them can

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This is all assuming my math is correct. ;)

Rolling-Thunder
May 9th, 2002, 01:16 AM
From what I can tell, if Serena wins her third round match and even if she does not win the next she will have put enough distance between herself and the others to claim the #4 seed at the French. Moreover, she still can gain points at the Italian Open not to mention getting past the quarters at Berlin. This will help her a lot at the French.

Oui :bounce: Oui:bounce: Serena

Fingon
May 9th, 2002, 01:24 AM
Darkheart, Justine's 17th result is 59, not 69. She has two 59 points: Paris and Hamburg

Darkheart
May 9th, 2002, 01:36 AM
I don't see where I gave Justine 69 points instead of 59.

Fingon
May 9th, 2002, 01:57 AM
were you referring to Dokic?

Darkheart
May 9th, 2002, 02:09 AM
In your previous post you said I gave Justine 69 points but I didn't.

Volcana
May 9th, 2002, 02:33 AM
The initial post is now, if not correct, inaccurate in a different way. Thanks for the tips.

Fingon
May 9th, 2002, 02:53 AM
Darkhear, when you mentioned 69 points being the 17th result I thought you were referring to Justine, I got it wrong.

Darkheart
May 9th, 2002, 03:01 AM
I just wanted to get it correct. :)

Williams Rulez
May 9th, 2002, 07:16 AM
Interesting... looks like we we'll probably see only 1 movement in the top 10 this week, either that, or we may not even see a movement.

BTW, unless Amelie wins this tournament, she is falling out of the top 10.

Volcana
May 9th, 2002, 10:31 PM
Movement this week ( Iadded 10 through 20 becasue so mant high ranked players were losing.

Hantuchova has slipped up another spot or two. She should be ranked #13 next week. Top Ten, anyone?

Speaking of top ten, there's been a change, at a least temporarily. Sandrine has 2174 points and counting, Amelie has 1871. Amelie woulds have to win the tournament to protect her ranking, I think.

Justine is only 85 points out of#8. But her next opponent, nathalie Dechy, doesn't carry enough bonus points to push Justine over the top. To move up, she has to make the finals.

joe
May 9th, 2002, 11:24 PM
It would be great if Serena could get the number 3 Ranking. Who knows what will happen at RG.

If things go well Venus and Serena might be ranked 1 & 2 at Wimbledon. That will be an outstanding achievement for the Williams family.

Monica@52
May 10th, 2002, 12:00 AM
Because she won't have enough bonus points, I don't think Henin could go higher than #8, even by winning the tournament, which is a shame :(

tennezfan001
May 10th, 2002, 12:09 AM
i'm a new member. i did not guys like u exist thank u for all
the info a tennis fans dream. thank's again:bounce: :bounce:

Volcana
May 10th, 2002, 02:58 AM
tennezfan001 - I'm not a fan's dream. The people who run these websites are.

http://www.itftennis.com - That's the International Tennis Federation Website. Great for researching head-to-head data.

http://www.geocities.com/jannak36/jannak.htm - A labor of love. And a great tennis wensite.

http://www.tenniscorner.net - Pure stats.

http://www.sanexwta.com - "Live! From beautoiful downtown St. Petersburg...."

LucasArg
May 10th, 2002, 03:16 AM
Jannak's site is great. But lately the ranking points are not updated.

I like also tennis.net ;)

Williams Rulez
May 10th, 2002, 12:19 PM
Serena is quite close to the number 3 ranking now... :D

arn
May 10th, 2002, 02:05 PM
As long as Kim takes the #3 or #4 seed at RG, it's all good :)

TheBoiledEgg
May 10th, 2002, 02:42 PM
-----------------------------------------------------
PTS (-Rome 01) PTS
1-Venus Williams 4591 - 4591
2-Jennifer Capriati 4429 1 4429
3-Kim Clijsters 3699 1 3699
4-Serena Williams 3525 - 3525
5-Monica Seles 3360 - 3360
6-Lindsay Davenport 3350 - 3350
7-Martina Hingis 3338 182 3156
8-Jelena Dokic 3074 373 2761
9-Justine Henin 3059 - 3059
10-Sandrine Testud 2183 1 2183
11-Amelie Mauresmo 1881 316 1565
12-Silvia Farina-Elia 1710 45 1710
13-Daniela Hantuchova 1593.75 68 1525.75
14-Meghann Shaughnessy 1507 30 1477
15-Elena Dementieva 1441 - 1441
16-Nathalie Tauziat 1411 1 1410
17-Arantxa Sanchez 1314 77 1237
18-Iroda Tulyaganova 1255 1 1255
19-Tamarine Tanasugarn 1176 1 1176
20-Patty Schnyder 1154 30 1124
21-Anna Smashnova 1145 28 1117
22-Barbara Schett 1140 1 1140
23-Tatiana Panova 1135 26 1133
24-Magdalena Maleeva 1107 1 1107
25-Anne Kremer 1095 32 1087
26-Lisa Raymond 1091 - 1091
27-Daja Bedanova 1084 - 1084
28-Nathalie Dechy 1047 1 1047
29-Alexandra Stevenson 1037.75 - 1037.75
30-Anastasia Myskina 1026.75 13 1026.75
31-Iva Majoli 1020 1 1020
32-Francesca Schiavone 995 133 862
33-Ai Sugiyama 991 1 991
34-Amanda Coetzer 974 - 974
35-Rita Grande 906 1 906
36-Cristina Torrens-V 904 1 904
37-Henrieta Nagyova 846 37 809
38-Martina Sucha 838 1 838
39-Magui Serna 832 1 832
40--Janette Husarova 826 47 787
41-Nicole Pratt 806 1 806
42-Emmanuelle Gagliardi 775.75 100 677.75
43-Adriana Serra-Zanetti 767.75 1 767.75
44-Elena Likhovtseva 756 61 695
45-Paola Suarez 711 94 617
46-Conchita Martinez 710 139 571
47-Anabel Medina 690 56 634
48-Cara Black 688.75 1 688.75
49-Angeles Montolio 672 30 642
50-Katarina Srebotnik 672 - 672






used 18th points as well in case of points taken off (added 18th on where 18th is more than 1pt)

todays matches where results in been added NOW ALL

victory1
May 10th, 2002, 02:50 PM
TheBoiledEgg - Jenn points are wrong, I don't think she has more than 4449 right now- she was defending 293 points.

TheBoiledEgg
May 10th, 2002, 03:21 PM
thanx for spotting that........ it was a typo, it should be 4429 not 4529

i had taken points off but didnt check back closely after i posted

Volcana
May 10th, 2002, 04:21 PM
Updated as of the QFs

Serena's bonus point situation is totally in the tank. She can still take #3, but she has to win the tournament, and she has to beat Jenn doing it. Justine doesn't carry enough bonus points.

Yes she does. Thanks Eggy.

3766 = WIN (151) + Anna (15) + Jenn (75) + Curr (3525)
3734 = WIN (151) + Anna (15) + Justine (43) + Curr (3525)
3699 = KIM
3609 = WIN (151) + Anna (15) + Curr (3525)

Except for her opponents, Justine is in an excellent position. True she can't move up. Nut winning the tournament would do wonders for her confidence, and points-wise would basically tie her with Martina, Lindsay and Monica.

3360 = Monica
3350 = Lindsay
3338 = Martina

3335 = WIN (151) + Serena (50) + Jenn (75) + Curr (3059)
3300 = WIN (151) + Anna (50) + Jenn (75) + Curr (3059)

Even just making the final Jenn would firmly seperate her from Jelena.

3203 = WIN (69) + Jenn (75) + Curr (3059)

3074 = Jelena

TheBoiledEgg
May 10th, 2002, 04:27 PM
Volcana ........ Serena has 3525 right now

3363 she had before Berlin

Making semis = 124 pts
23 for Schett
15 for Maleeva
0 for Mauresmo

124 + 38 = 162 (Berlin) add 3363 = 3525

Semi win takes her to 3609
win over Henin in final 3734
win over Jen in final 3766

Volcana
May 10th, 2002, 05:35 PM
Eggy -

3363
+162
3479

The new math, right? :)

Thank for the catch!

Williams Rulez
May 11th, 2002, 06:54 AM
Ooo... it is all so tight here... Serena must win this title to be number 1!! :) :)

Hope Serena does that... :kiss: