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deftman
May 6th, 2002, 08:43 AM
I've given it a lot of thought ,and I've realised that what's keeping Hingis from winning are the power players .Nothing more or nothing less.
People say it's a question of confidence,etc. etc, ,but in the end, the power players hit the ball too fast for her to plan placements of her shots,as she does against other players.
Should she jump on the bandwagon too?
Jenny did it ,and found considerable success.
By becoming a power player ,I dont mean developing muscles or something.Just adding pace to her shots like Jennifer and or even Seles.
Her basics are extremely strong . By adding pace, she could go places and aim for GS titles.
I personally think she should.It would after all be an absolute shame to see such humungous talent go to waste.

smygelfh
May 6th, 2002, 08:49 AM
No way. 'Power' tennis is boring. Work on the differences instead. Hit angles, aggressive, come to net. The only power she needs is on her serves, she has what it takes otherwise. She'll generate more pace if she lays of the topspin a bit more, but then she'll miss more.

deftman
May 6th, 2002, 09:31 AM
I used to think the same before,but now I've realised that those too wont work.
Whether hitting top spins ,mixing up ,or anything,you need time to set up your shots,and the power players realise this and dont give you time. Every player tries to mix up when the meet power players,but against the likes of the Williams ,it's not really possible to do so.
It seems playing power tennis with less number of errors in comparisn to other power players would be a good alternative.

jomar
May 6th, 2002, 09:33 AM
she jaz needs to improve her service game and everything would be in her favor.:kiss:

J_Migoe
May 6th, 2002, 09:40 AM
I would say that if Martina becomes a power player, she will be giving all the big girls a run for their money. Imagine power and her brain...she'll be lethal on the tennis court just as Xena is with a sword.

arn
May 6th, 2002, 09:47 AM
I think it would take months, even years to transform yourself into a powerplayer. Hingis has never played that way and I doubt she's capable of playing like Venus, Kim, Jennifer,.... It's just something she isn't used to and it takes some time to practice.

I think it's better to play the strong cards she has now; making angles, coming to the net,....

Like said before, her serve is the only thing where she needs to work on, and not a little bit!

gentenaire
May 6th, 2002, 09:54 AM
ditto Arn

And if she were to become a power player, she'd lose her finesse.

thefreedesigner
May 6th, 2002, 10:03 AM
Also, I don't think it's that easy to just become a power player. The young girls and women now are hitting the ball harder, I doubt they're being taught to hit it harder.

I can't imagine the sort of UEs that Martina would rack up playing that sort of game, just because it isn't her game. I don't think Martina needs more power, she can generate as much as she needs.

Possibly (and I'm clutching at straws here) what I would say that Martina needs to add - in addition of course to the serve - is greater atheleticism. Side to side she's not that quick.

Alos there is the issue that in key matches Martina's mental preparation could be best described as "wanting".

I don't think more power would be the solution. It may solve a problem (though I can't imagine it would), but at what cost to her overall game?

deftman
May 6th, 2002, 10:08 AM
True.
Managing power and fineese is very difficult.
But Jennifer ,is doing it right now. She too wasnt really a power player,before 1999.Pace wasnt really the base of her game as it is now.She became a power player in early 2000.
So it took her a year and half to bring about the transformation.
I wouldnt mind if Hingis did the same.
She's not going to win slams until then anyways.
I dont know why she isnt mixing up,against power players.It's obvious to anyone that her present stratergy is not working.If she could,she would have mixed up her tennis against power player wouldnt she?There's clearly something stopping her.
Perhaps she finds it difficult to mix up.I dont know.
I dont think it's a question of wanting to maintain her style.She has made it clear in many interviews how much she wants to win slams.So I dont know why she doesnt mix up.Maybe she simply cant.
So if she cant mix up ,why cant she jump on the power badwagon?

tennischick
May 6th, 2002, 11:24 AM
the only thing Hingis needs to do is improve her serves, both first and second. she has all the eqipment she needs to play against the Power Babes. but aslong as she keeps rolling in those 60mph serves, they will keep blowing her off the court. i don't think she should change a single thing about her game but that. and get back some of the cockiness that people hated her for when she was 16. it didn't make her popular but she was then the Smiling Assassin and she seems to have lost that. she's too nice now.

HEAVYHITTER
May 6th, 2002, 01:05 PM
She should infuse power in her game, but how?

Maybe take off 2 years and beef up or something. I can't see it happening. She KNEW she needed to improve on that serve. It's too late this year. She'll have to rely on the power players making errors.

And as far as her being nice.....She's been humbled.

deftman
May 6th, 2002, 01:23 PM
LOL where does being a power player need beefing up?;)
I dont see muscles in Jennifer or Elena D.;)
It would take her a few months to get to that stature.;)
And yeah maybe U guys are right.
She needs to work on her serve 1st and foremost.

HEAVYHITTER
May 6th, 2002, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by deftman
I dont see muscles in Jennifer or Elena D.;)


Obviously you need to tweek your vision and neither do I feel like hunting for photos of the aforementioned to prove you incorrect. Let's just call it a truce.

sartrista7
May 6th, 2002, 01:34 PM
Hmm. If she became a power player it would significantly increase her chances against the Williamses, Capriati et al, but the plain fact of the matter is that she CAN'T. Physically, she is not and can never be as powerful as the Big Babes. If she made her game for power-based - as she arguably has done in the past couple of years - she simply can't compete, because she will *never* be as powerful. One of the main things which has caused all the losses to the power brigade is the fact that when playing against them she always seems to get drawn into their game. She tries to outslug them, she tries to do to them what they do to her. And it doesn't work. She *can* junk things up and add variety when she plays them. It's easy to say that they hit it too hard for her to place the ball/volley, but in every single match against them you see at least 20 points where it's Hingis who's in control, who can choose to go to the net or hit an angle - and she invariably doesn't. And on the rare occasion when she does, she wins the point.

Personally, I think she has enough pace in her groundstrokes. Where she doesn't have enough pace is, obviously, her serve. As long as it's still a liability, nothing she does will have any effect.

herodoto
May 6th, 2002, 01:38 PM
is really silly to think that marti will some day hit the ball as strong as the big girls. is by nature imposible. is like to ask to Oscar de La Hoya for to hit as hard as Tyson, is impossible, is just question of size and physical constitution. martin has just 1.70m of height in comparison with almost 1.90 of lindsay and the 1.85 of venus. she can lift weight and earn muscles but she never will hit the ball as the big ones. like Oscar de la Hoya, no matters if he trains hard during years he never will have the punch of tyson or any of the heavyweight boxers, never.
c'mon marti just won with your talent and inteligence!!!:kiss:

Debbie Foy
May 6th, 2002, 01:39 PM
lady not gots right build for such a venture--lady cud spend 10 hrs day in gym--not look like serenas williems--not close, not got right bodies or rate of height for her--maybe beefs up sums helps sums but not beet big girls wif big girls game--all wrongs for lady--lady must work on craftier shots more vonficence also--large order but large ladies runs her ragged now--no choice....if solutions was easy for lady--ladys be winnin' more--

HEAVYHITTER
May 6th, 2002, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by HEAVYHITTER
She should infuse power in her game, but how?

I can't see it happening.

True Herodoto, but I would like to see her stay in the game, because I like her spunk. Nonetheless, it appears as if her "light" is deminishing.

aura of daniela
May 6th, 2002, 02:26 PM
I'm not having a go at Martina here, but I don't think she is capable of playing the power game.
She isn't stupid, if she was able to play the power game, she would, but she knows that it isn't possible.
Otherwise, why wouldn't she play that way. If she could mix a power game with her existing game, it would be a joke how good she would be..................but she knows she cant.

Power, Speed and pure tennis smarts would make anyone almost unbeatable, but most tennis players are missing one of those attributes. Thats the way life is, no one is perfect...!!!

Simon V :)

timmbo
May 6th, 2002, 03:25 PM
I dont really think Martina has the body type to generate too much power. As far as Jenn goes in her early days, she was considered to be somewhat of a power player. There werent many gals that could hit the ball like she did, exept Steffi, Mary P and Monica. Now you have alot of ladies that hit with lots of power. The only thing Jenn did was to step up what she already had. Even if Martina did start to power up her game, players like Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Kim and Jenn would still out muscle and out power her. I think that she could add some power to her game, ie serve, but just try to refine her finese and court smarts. I think that she should also try coming in more.

hugetennisfan
May 6th, 2002, 03:26 PM
It isn't a matter of whether Martina should become a power player, but rather can she become a power player. And I think the answer is no, she just doesn't have the size. However, if Martina could only improve her serve, then I believe she would have much more success against the power players. (Improving her serve would not make her a power player, imo.)

Volcana
May 6th, 2002, 03:44 PM
herodoto - see Justine Henin. You don't need to be big or tall to hit with pace. Technique works just fine if your form is good enough.