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HAIL-VENUS
May 6th, 2002, 05:50 AM
Not all of you, but some of you are giving up on Martina! Where is your faith in her? How could you turn your back on her when she needs you the most, uhm, eventhough she probably doesn't know you're cheering for her. But if you're going to be a so called "fan" then act like one. I'm tired of you whining about Marti retiring. Martina's not washed up. She is still young and strong. All of the top players know that they have to really play some tennis to beat her, if they're going to win.Where's your supportive spirit?

jomar
May 6th, 2002, 05:52 AM
Hail-Marti!!!!!:angel: :bounce: :kiss:

hugetennisfan
May 6th, 2002, 06:02 AM
Uh oh, I think my completely sarcastic post and venting fest was a big mistake!!!

Martina's still my fave. :)

Fingon
May 6th, 2002, 06:04 AM
Hail Venus, it's a nice post.

Although I know yours was a general post I feel it applies specially to me.

I can't talk for the others, but in my case, being a fan of a tennis player isn't something pasional, but rather I follow a player because she plays the way I like, and I like watching her. Of course, it's not that simple, I do feel happy when Justine or Martina win, but my support for them is not something I have under my skin.

Maybe it is with Justine, because the circumstances were quite different.

I become a fan of Martina after seeing her win the Australian Open for the first time. It wasn't that I started following her because she was winning, but I discovered her game there. Being a long time fan of Gabriela Sabatini and Jana Novotna, it was gratifying to cheer for a player that actually was winning everything. But there wasn't a strong bond, I knew her as a champion and somehow she spoiled me, in 1997 she didn't lose a match until RG, and that was after a long lay off, then she lost only 4 more matches, and started 98 winning the Australian Open again, so, I guess deep inside me I expected her to keep doing it.

Justine is different, I started to follow her when she was nobody. I've seen her progress, and every aspect in her game fits what I like, plus, I admire how she overcome adversity, she is a player that I can admire as a person, as well as a player (not that Martina is a bad person or anything, simply that Martina is like nearly all the other tennis players, there isn't anything special about her life).

So, it's something that I can explain, but simply it's the way I feel. When Justine plays, I am nervous, I follow the live-scores and I am swearing all the time, I dedicate time to the website, I feel really happy when she does well, and I am looking forward to her next tournament expecting her to break through, with Martina I am now much more objective. I do like watching her play, I do like her winning, but there isn't passion. It could be unfair on her, but it's the way I feel, I can't help it.

HAIL-VENUS
May 6th, 2002, 06:19 AM
Actually Fingon, I haven't read any posts that you've made concerning Marti's retirement. Not to say that you haven't made any, but I just haven't seen them. I can understand the difference in the feelings you have between Marti and Justine. I'm referring to the Martina Hingis fans who are suddenly suggesting that she should retire and that she's washed up. I don't remember their names though. Maybe they are just not used to her losing and they don't know how to deal with it. I don't understand this, because my favorite had to crawl before she could walk on the tour, where as Martina walked first, and now, she must crawl to walk again. Why have they lost faith in her? I just don't feel that they should give up on her so easily. I'm talking about the ones who feel passionately about her when she's winning, but plot her demise when she's not. I don't think they are her true fans.

jomar
May 6th, 2002, 06:27 AM
You can always find your true supporters during your bad times.;):angel:

Miranda
May 6th, 2002, 06:38 AM
and jomar is a real supporter, hehehe :angel:

jomar
May 6th, 2002, 06:45 AM
Marti uses me as her "supporter" during her matches.:) :D :kiss:

Miranda
May 6th, 2002, 07:03 AM
yes, she asks you to massage her foot, prepare tea for her, wash her dirty socks .... ;)

well honestly I really think you are her true fans and she should be proud of you :)

jomar
May 6th, 2002, 07:07 AM
I prefer cash than praise...i hope marti's listening.:o;):D...seriously, thanx miranda...please make me a trophy.:kiss:

Miranda
May 6th, 2002, 07:10 AM
well, i am going to make you a statute, but you know statute, can only be made after you go to heaven :o, may be 50 years later, be patience :o :p

jomar
May 6th, 2002, 07:13 AM
i want a naked statue of mine.:o thanks in advance.:angel:

Candy946
May 6th, 2002, 07:15 AM
:sad:

Miranda
May 6th, 2002, 07:23 AM
why is candy crying :confused: ,don't worry, jennifer only won her first grand slam at about 25, martina is still 21, she will rise again :)

naked?! i am a very kind person, i don't want people to laugh at your .... and so your costume is a sweater+2 black trousers :o :D :p

jomar
May 6th, 2002, 07:40 AM
i want people to laugh...it's the best free medicine...so jaz do it....you can't go against a last wish.:rolleyes: :p :rolleyes:

*Bubbles*
May 6th, 2002, 08:12 AM
Martina 4-ever!!

Jeff
May 6th, 2002, 08:25 AM
I will always be behind Marti, 100% :kiss:

jomar
May 6th, 2002, 08:27 AM
I'd double that Jeff. 200%;) :bounce: :kiss:

deftman
May 6th, 2002, 08:35 AM
pfff
Being a fan doesnt mean you are unrealisitically positive about her.
Martina is sucking right now (by her standards that is),what's the big deal in admitting it?

Doris Loeffel
May 6th, 2002, 10:31 AM
Hail Venus to be honest I'm surprised about your post. (And to be even more honest I expected a negative one - don't ask me why thoug.)

Well I guess that's the way of live. As long as somebody is successfull, there are friends and fans everywhere you can hardly get rid of them. As soon as you start loosing the friends and fans and supporters kind of disappear...

Fingon also has a good point. Martina spoild us at the beginning of her career. She's been winning all the time. And I guess we (and probably also she) was thinking it'll be like that till she really retires. Well we just forgot, that there are others around who got sick of her winning all the time. And now we have to face more and more losses of Martina as others started to read her game and addapt to it, improve it and even have the needed power. Even when Martina may improve on certain strokes it just doesn't show right now. And to add on it, she not only has to deal with losses now she also has to learn how to deal whit injuries. And that's something we nor her are used to. Sure that there are toughts around about how is it going on? And maybe ppl are talking about retirement becouse they are actually afraid of that moment when she really retires and are just seeking for a statement where Martina says "no worries guys - I'm not going to quit before ......."

Well on the last interview I saw from her she wasn't talking like she's going to give up soon. She seamed to still enjoy her sport very much. But acknowleged that she has to work harder and harder every day to keep her level. Not that easy for a person who used to win everything with such an ease.

Well I for myself keep the fingers crossed for her. Even though it's not always easy... Hope she'll be able to win a major soon. Not only for us fans (so we have comething to celebrate) but also for her and her confidence. (Which I believe is still a major point she has to work on.) And yes I hope she's playing for some more years as she really adds to the entertainement on the court.

Hoooopppppp Martina!!!

jomar
May 6th, 2002, 10:35 AM
that's a very good thought Doris.:kiss:

Beige
May 6th, 2002, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by HAIL-VENUS
Not all of you, but some of you are giving up on Martina! Where is your faith in her? How could you turn your back on her when she needs you the most, uhm, eventhough she probably doesn't know you're cheering for her. But if you're going to be a so called "fan" then act like one. I'm tired of you whining about Marti retiring. Martina's not washed up. She is still young and strong. All of the top players know that they have to really play some tennis to beat her, if they're going to win.Where's your supportive spirit?

My sentiments exactly, H-V! Hingis fans, hang tough!

Williams Rulez
May 6th, 2002, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by deftman
pfff
Being a fan doesnt mean you are unrealisitically positive about her.
Martina is sucking right now (by her standards that is),what's the big deal in admitting it?
I agree, I don't set unrealistic standards for my favourites... ;)

jomar
May 6th, 2002, 11:38 AM
As a fan, she gets my 100% always....winning isn't everything.:kiss:

moby
May 6th, 2002, 02:23 PM
i'm realistic about marti too :D

i expect her to win everything
but i dont kill myself if she loses

that's the right attitude :D

HEAVYHITTER
May 6th, 2002, 02:30 PM
This post is appropriate, Martini need your support.

SUPPORT HER!.

Why abandon her now? Martina already proven herself.

209 times with in your face flair. Although she's not my favorite, I kinda like her brash. Hell, she got character.

FP
May 6th, 2002, 03:07 PM
u kow Doris Loeffel u r right to some extend but in my case, I began to support Martina when she already was losing all majors she entered, I've never seen her winning major, so I'm simply tired of her losing, I'm not spoiled by her winning as u lucky ppl :sad:
The problem is, u see, if I saw that she really wants, I believe that there is nothing impossible for a person who really wants, not only saying that I want, but striving to that, I would be on her side 4 ever, despite her loses. But I cannot really see that she gives her 100% I would never beleive that what she gives now is her limit, no way.
I didn't see her semi vs Venus, but I was 100% sure that she is going to lose even despite Venus had an injury.
But Kim did it she won, and she could actually do it in stright sets but Kim seems to be always a slow starter. It's like when Martina lost to Serena 6-4 6-0 in Mayami what is 6-0???!!! she simply gave up, I would never understand that, really:fiery:
I don't support her for her achievements I support her for talent and attitude, when the second condition is dissapeared it becomes difficult to be 100% for her.
She has to have a courage first of all to face that she has a mentall problem, and then have a courage to solve the problem, and I beleive that it's not a problem of her tennis.

After all, the first condition, which is talent is still there, that why I still consider myself as Hingis fan.:wavey:

Ryan
May 6th, 2002, 03:21 PM
I will ALWAYS support Martina! Winning is only part of watching her play, yeah, of course it's great to see her win, but I know she cant win everything. Martina's been my favorite for a while, through a first round loss at Wimbledon to a clay specialist, and three Oz final losses, there's no way I'm going to get down abotu her losing to the #1 player in the world, even if it was on clay. Not matter what, I'll always be 250% behing Martina.


Go Marti! Take RG by storm!:hearts: :kiss: :wavey:

Martian Mel
May 6th, 2002, 04:26 PM
I'm supporting my girl a 1000% (Yeah i'm a huge martian :p )


I also am a fan who had all the tears!I became a real fan at rg 1999 just when all the problems started!:sad:
I've cried so many times and there were so many heartbreaking losses but i keep supporting her and i do love her and i know that there WILL come tears of hapiness and that she will win a GrandSLam! Why???Because i believe in destiny and i BELIEVE IN MARTINA HINGIS!:bounce: :kiss: :hearts: ;)