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Andy.
Dec 22nd, 2005, 11:13 AM
Rank these players from best to worst in terms of their achievements in your opinion and also i will include a poll for who you think was the best

Anke Huber
Amanda Coetzer
Chanda Rubin
Maggie Maleeva
Silvia Farina Elia
Natalie Tausiat
Sandrine Testud
Ai Sugiama
Amy Frasier
Elena Likhovtseva

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 22nd, 2005, 11:56 AM
Rank these players from best to worst in terms of their achievements in your opinion and also i will include a poll for who you think was the best

Anke Huber
Amanda Coetzer
Chanda Rubin
Maggie Maleeva
Silvia Farina Elia
Natalie Tausiat
Sandrine Testud
Ai Sugiama
Amy Frasier
Elena Likhovtseva


Anke Huber (her finals appearance at the AO and leaving on her terms)
Amanda Coetzer (career high of 3, 15 years on tour, 3 time semifinalist)
Chanda Rubin (career high of 6 but was able to be in the top 10 in two decades after comeback, SF of AO, still playing)
Nathalie Tauziat (career high of 3, didn't get to top 10 till age of 30, finalist at Wimbeldon, only played AO 3 times in her 17 year career)
Maggie Maleeva (career high of 4)
Sandrine Testud (career high of 9, two time slam quarterfinalist)
Silvia Farina Ella (career high of 11, slam quarterfinalist)
Ai Sugiyama (career high of 8, two time quarterfinalist, 46th consecutive slam appearances)
Amy Frazier (career high of 13, two time quarterfinalist)
Elena Likhovtseva (career high of 15, slam semifinalist, 46th consecutive slam appearances)

Xian
Dec 22nd, 2005, 12:09 PM
well I think its actually FraZier, TauZiat and SugiYama :tape:

Shonami Slam
Dec 22nd, 2005, 12:09 PM
Anke Huber
Amanda Coetzer
Maggie Maleeva
Natalie Tausiat
Chanda Rubin
Sandrine Testud
Ai Sugiama
Silvia Farina Elia
Elena Likhovtseva
Amy Frasier

Matze
Dec 22nd, 2005, 01:27 PM
Yes, I´d choose Anke Huber for the Nr. 1 Career, because she reached some big finales (AO 96, Masters 95), was able to beat some Nr. 1´s (Mauresmo, Navratilova, Clijsters...) and won some big events (Filderstadt, Philadelphia, Leipzig). Nr. 2 is Tauziat. Nr. 3 Rubin. Nr. 4 Sandrine Testud...

Foot's Fingers
Dec 22nd, 2005, 01:56 PM
Elena Likhovtseva
Anke Huber
Amanda Coetzer
Maggie Maleeva
Ai Sugiama
Natalie Tausiat
Chanda Rubin
Sandrine Testud
Silvia Farina Elia
Amy Frasier

Mafia_Sharapova
Dec 22nd, 2005, 02:03 PM
Ai Sugiama
Anke Huber
Elena Likhovtseva
Amanda Coetzer

PaulHopkins
Dec 22nd, 2005, 02:16 PM
Silvia Farina Elia gets my vote.

hingis-seles
Dec 22nd, 2005, 02:46 PM
Definitely Anke Huber at #1.

LH2HBH
Dec 22nd, 2005, 04:16 PM
I voted for Likhovtseva - the Russian is a journeyman player who has been consistently held her ground in the top 50 for 10 years. She's very well respected in the locker room and is also a great doubles player. She's also looked up to by the other, younger Russian girls as a mentor/older sister type.

creep
Dec 22nd, 2005, 04:19 PM
If Amanda Coetzer had been a few inches taller, how good would she have been!

creep
Dec 22nd, 2005, 04:20 PM
I have a soft spot for Sandrine, for the endeavour and motivation she showed during her career.

Nacho
Dec 22nd, 2005, 05:37 PM
head to heads between them

Anker Huber 36-27 (57.1 %)
Chanda Rubin 30-23 (56.6 %)
Nathalie Tauziat 39-30 (56.5 %)
Amanda Coetzer 31-26 (54.4 %)
Sandrine Testud 26-24 (52 %)
Silvia Farina Elia 31-29 (51.7 %)
Magdalena Maleeva 32-34 (48.5 %)
Ai Sugiyama 18-33 (35.3 %)
Elena Likhovtseva 21-40 (34.4 %)

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Huber 36-27

4-3 vs Coetzer
1-1 vs Rubin
6-3 vs Maleeva
6-3 vs Farina
4-8 vs Tauziat :eek:
5-2 vs Testud
1-1 vs Sugiyama
2-6 vs Frazier :eek:
7-0 vs Likhovtseva :eek:


Coetzer 31-26

3-4 vs Huber
3-7 vs Rubin :eek:
4-1 vs Maleeva
4-2 vs Farina
4-4 vs Tauziat
3-0 vs Testud
4-5 vs Sugiyama
3-3 vs Frazier
3-0 vs Likhovtseva

Chanda Rubin 30-23

1-1 vs Huber
7-3 vs Coetzer
1-7 vs Maleeva :eek:
3-2 vs Farina
3-2 vs Tauziat
3-6 vs Testud
3-0 vs Sugiyama
5-2 vs Frazier
4-0 vs Likhovsteva

Maleeva 32-34

3-6 vs Huber
1-4 vs Coetzer
7-1 vs Rubin
5-4 vs Farina
2-7 vs Tauziat :eek:
2-0 vs Testud
4-7 vs Sugiyama
1-1 vs Frazier
7-4 vs Likhovtseva

Farina 31-29

3-6 vs Huber
2-4 vs Coetzer
2-3 Rubin
4-5 Maleeva
4-2 vs Tauziat
5-2 vs Testud
3-0 vs Sugiyama
2-3 vs Frazier
6-4 vs Likhovtseva

Tauziat 39-30

8-4 vs Huber
4-4 vs Coetzer
2-3 vs Rubin
7-2 vs Maleeva
2-4 vs Farina
4-3 vs Testud
2-0 vs Sugiyama
6-4 vs Frazier
4-6 vs Likhovtseva

Testud 26-24

2-5 Huber
0-3 Coetzer
6-3 vs Rubin
0-2 vs Maleeva
2-5 vs Farina
3-4 vs Tauziat
6-1 vs Sugiyama :eek:
1-0 vs Frazier
6-1 vs Likhovtseva

Sugiyama 18-33

1-1 vs Huber
5-4 vs Coetzer
0-3 vs Rubin
7-4 vs Maleeva
0-3 vs Farina
0-2 vs Tauziat
1-6 vs Testud
1-4 vs Frazier
3-6 vs Likhovtseva

Frazier 27-22

6-2 vs Huber
3-3 vs Coetzer
2-5 vs Rubin
1-1 vs Maleeva
3-2 vs Farina
4-6 vs Tauziat
0-1 vs Testud
4-1 vs Sugiyama
4-1 vs Likhovtseva

Likhovsteva 21-40

0-7 vs Huber
0-3 vs Coetzer
0-4 vs Rubin
4-7 vs Maleeva
4-6 vs Farina
6-4 vs Tauziat
1-6 vs Testud
6-3 vs Sugiyama

SloKid
Dec 22nd, 2005, 06:13 PM
Anke :hearts:

Allez Joosteen
Dec 22nd, 2005, 06:16 PM
Without question it's Anke.

Ryan
Dec 22nd, 2005, 08:21 PM
Anke Huber (GS Final, very consistant player from 1991-1998)
Amanda Coetzer (worked with what she had, 3 GS semis, slayer or top players)
Sandrine Testud (#1 spanker, lots of good, solid results)
Chanda Rubin (GS Semi, inconsistant due to injuries, top 15 most of the time)
Natalie Tausiat (late-bloomer, GS final, op 15-20 player)
Ai Sugiama (again, late-bloomer who had consistant results. Great in doubles)
Silvia Farina Elia (another late-bloomer, consistant results in new power era)
Maggie Maleeva (inconsistant with several good results)
Elena Likhovtseva (consistant, good doubles player)
Amy Frasier (long-time player, consistant)

_LuCaS_
Dec 22nd, 2005, 08:56 PM
Does it get more random than this?

crazillo
Dec 22nd, 2005, 09:40 PM
Nathlie Tauziat
Amanda Coetzer
Anke Huber
Maggie Maleeva
Chanda Ribin
Elena Likhovtseva
Ai Sugiyama
Silvia Farina Elia
Sandrine Testud
Amy Frasier

crazillo
Dec 22nd, 2005, 09:41 PM
BTW Maggie also reached a slam QF and you should add that.

Zauber
Dec 22nd, 2005, 09:43 PM
Amanda Coetzer. the easy choice
She was consistently in the top 10 often top 5.
She allways challenged the very best at their best. For example Steffi Graf.
She had two wins against her in a row, if my memory serves me correctly.
I also like Maleeva Maggie (Maggie was more of a challenge to the top players for example when she won the big Moscow tournament) and likhovseva. (not quite as high a level looses to the very top)

Geisha
Dec 22nd, 2005, 10:13 PM
If I could choose to retire as one of those players, it would definitely be Sandrine Testud. I didn't do extensive research on the other players, but I will post this to help you determine who to vote for.

Sandrine's record in singles play was 398-279 and she was over %.500 in doubles competition, as well. She collected a total of seven WTA titles - three in singles, four in doubles. In singles, Sandrine reached a career high ranking of #9, while in doubles she reached #8.

Sandrine only reached two Grand Slam QFs, but partly due to the fact that she played the best of the best in her eleven Grand Slam R16 appearances. Sandrine lost in the R16 of Grand Slams, five times to #1 players - Graf, Seles and Hingis (x3). Other losses were to Davenport, Capriati, V.Williams, Seles (x2) and Tauziat - her worst loss at a R16 of a GS at #22.

Sandrine truly is a world player. She has played in many, many tournaments and as a tennis professional, she has defeated greats such as Capriati, Davenport, V.Williams, Sanchez-Vicario, S.Williams, and Seles - not to mention wins against Pierce, Mauresmo, and Kournikova.

bello
Dec 22nd, 2005, 10:14 PM
CLASS ONE
1. Anke Huber
2. Nathalie Tauziat
3. Amanda Coetzer
4. Chanda Rubin
5. Maggie Maleeva

CLASS TWO:
6. Sandrine Testud
7. Silvia Farina Elia
8. Amy Frazier
9. Elena Likhovtseva
10. Ai Sugiyama

matthias
Dec 22nd, 2005, 10:37 PM
Anke

but how can she have such a bad H2H with Frazier :eek:

matthias
Dec 22nd, 2005, 10:38 PM
btw. i waiting for someone to mention Anke´s horrible H2H with Seles

Farina Elia Fan
Dec 22nd, 2005, 11:26 PM
I am obviously biased when a question like this comes up but my reasons are as follows :-

Silvia's game was very complex and needed time to grow and unlucky for her it happened when power tennis took over and all the other variety players had retired, but instead of just giving up she decided to use her game to advantage and was consistantly the best player who was regarded with an old style of game. She would have been a top 10 player for sure if only she was a tiny tiny bit stronger mentally, she has had match points against a load of top players including Clijsters, Mauresmo, Suarez etc

She reached a grand slam quarter final at the age of 31 and has had wins over Hingis, Davenport, Serena, Venus, Sharapova to name just a few. Another reason she never get that far in the GS is that she has always had tough draws! I know this isnt an excuse but she has never had draws like a Suarez.

Farina Elia Fan
Dec 22nd, 2005, 11:28 PM
btw
Silvia Farina Elia
Amanda Coetzer
Maggie Maleeva
Anke Huber
Chanda Rubin
Natalie Tauziat
Sandrine Testud
Ai Sugiama
Elena Likhovtseva
Amy Frazier

Randy H
Dec 23rd, 2005, 12:00 AM
Wow, it's pretty amazing how underrated and overlooked Nathalie Tauziat is by many people here...She was indeed a late bloomer in terms of cracking the top 10, but she was in the top 20 and top 30 for many many years before that with solid results.

Here are my rankings:

1. Anke Huber - Grand slam finalist, and YEC finalist, 2 slam semis, 4 slam quarters. 7 time qualifier for the tour championships (probably could have had a couple more if not for some injuries later in career), and 12 career titles (best being tier 2's). Anke reached a career high of #4 I believe, and was a year-end top 10 player 3 times in her career. I feel that she was also the biggest threat against the players ranked above her than the others mentioned.

2. Nathalie Tauziat - A grand slam final certainly helps boost her resume, but she still managed to back that up with 6 other quarterfinalist appearances. A 9 time YEC qualifier, reaching semifinals as her best result, and won 8 career titles including a tier 1 title. Career high rank of #3, and 3 times finished the year in the top 10.

3. Amanda Coetzer - Quite evenly matched with Tauziat...3 slam semifinals, 4 quarters, and like Tauziat, a 9 time YEC qualifier, at her best making the quarters. She also won 9 titles, 1 of which was a tier 1. What I found interesting though was that although she too hit a career high of #3, it was her lone year where she finished top 10. Many consider Amanda to have been more consistently at the top compared to Nathalie who was a late bloomer, but Nathalie was equally a consistent finisher in the top 20 and 30 in other years but was able to finish her career with 3 consecutive top 10's which I think sets her apart.

4. Chanda Rubin - This one was kind of tough between her and Maggie but I had to be consistent with weighing heavily on the slams. Chanda made a slam semi, and 3 other quarters, qualified for YEC 4 times. She has 7 titles, highest at tier 2 level, reached #6, and had one top 10 year end.

5. Magdalena Maleeva - Maggie has 10 titles, including a pair of tier 1's to her name, she reached #4, and has one year end top 10. She also qualified for the YEC 4 times. With these stats alone, I'd probably put her ahead of Chanda with the tier 1's, but she only ever managed 1 slam quarterfinal in her career. Both have had more than enough injuries, but Chanda took better advantage in the biggies so I had to give her the edge because they are very close in the other stats.

6. Sandrine Testud - 2 slam quarters, 4 time YEC qualifier, making semifinals at her best. Only managed to win 3 titles, but she did win a tier 2, and reached #9 in the rankings although never finishing a year top 10. I place her at #6 because she had more years around the top 15 mark than the remaining players. She also had some of the bigger wins over top names.

7. Ai Sugiyama - Ai also managed 2 slam quarterfinals, she has a career high ranking of #8, and that was the same year she had her only year end top 10 finish. She only qualified for the YEC once, but to be fair, had it been top 16 format still, she would have done so another time too. She also won 6 titles, 2 of which being tier 2.

8. Amy Frazier - Another 2 time slam quarterfinalist, Amy also qualifier twice for the YEC, and she has 8 career titles. Her longevity is incredibly impressive, and certainly she has had many top wins too. The reason I didn't rank her slightly higher is because she sadly never made it above #13 in the rankings. IMO she's the best player never to reach the top 10, it's a shame she wasn't able to have that one real stand-out year like someone like Sugiyama.

9. Elena Likhovtseva - Have to give props to Elena really, I was tempted to place her higher because of her slam semifinal this year, along with her 2 quarters, but she only won 3 titles, and the best of those being at tier 3. She also has a career high of only #15. I could understand an argument for placing her slightly higher, but I just don't feel she has had the same quality of wins really.

10. Silvia Farina-Elia - another late bloomer, she did reach #11, but only made 1 career slam quarterfinal, and like Likhovtseva, 3 titles, none of which were above tier 3. Again, I just don't feel Silvia was also quite the threat that some of the others were against the very big names, though not to say she didn't have some memorable wins like the others too.

GABRIEL
Dec 23rd, 2005, 12:29 AM
all these are excellent players that for one reason or another never made to the very top, but it is also thanks to them that tennis is such a wonderful sport !

This is my ranking :
1) Amanda Coetzer - fantastic career, very solid, with some cms she could have been a real top player
2) Nathalie Tauziat - one of the last serve n volley players, late bloomer, had greattournaments
3) Maggie Maleeva - she reached nr 4, but was never close to her big sis Magdalena for consistency
4) Sandrine Testud - she was a pleasure to watch, very solid, great carachter
5) Anke Huber - I do not understand why everybody is voting for Anke...nothing against her, but she had a flat game, very powerful and solid, but not much talent...she did reach fantastic results, but she is not one I would remember often, at least comparing to most of the other players in this list...
6) Chanda Rubin - this is a very talented player whose career was always plugged with too many injueries. She could have probably been nr 1 in this list because of talent, results and rankings, without injuries...
7) Silvia Farina Elia - my very favourite player for the last 10 years, will be greatly miss :sad: she was a late bloomer and a very solid player....I will always think that she could have done much, much better on the tour in terms of rankings and titles, if it was not for her mental weakness....this is why I cannot rank her higher....
8) Elena Likhovtseva - very solid, I admire her because, like Silvia, she has been in the top 20-30 for the last 10 years without anybody noticing it....
9) Ai Sugiyama - I thought Ai would have done much better after she finally broke into the top 10...but she just went down the hill from there...also in doubles, where she was nr 1 for quite a while but could not hang in there...
10) Ami Frazier - a very solid top 15-25 player, but I feel she is the weakest of this field

Solitaire
Dec 23rd, 2005, 01:06 AM
Huber!!! You gotta love that wacky forehand and she was a cutie.

¤CharlDa¤
Dec 23rd, 2005, 02:32 AM
1) Anke Huber - She is the definite number 1 in there. Final appearance in AO makes it for me.
2) Amanda Coetzer - Very consistent, finished twice in the top 3, got wins against the
-all-time greats!
3) Nathalie Tauziat - She could be higher than Amanda, but her career wasn't consistent enough for me to give her the edge.
4) Chanda Rubin - Her semi-final as well as her rank proves she is a toughie. the fact she managed to come back after a huge injury proves how tough she was.
5) Maggie Maleeva - She is over Sandrine, even though her GS results are pretty poor for such a player.
6) Sandrine Testud - Tough between her and Maggie. Sandrine's career a typical of all those girls, very solid all around but lacked the edge.
7) Sylvia Farina Elia - I must say the last 4 are tough! I think silvia gets the edge because she has wins over most of the top, close matches with others. Very solid career.
8)Amy Frazier - She deserved to have a better rank. Her consistency is just amazig and she proved she was still there when she won QC City.
9) Ai Sugiyama - She had one great year, and then she was very steady. Her dubs skills are impressive, but, as sweet as she is, she kinda lacked the killer instinct to go higher.
10)Elena Likhovtseva - I just think she didn't make as much noice as others did, she isn't as dangerous as others. I'm only considering singles here, because with doubles she could be a lil higher.

crazillo
Dec 23rd, 2005, 10:08 AM
I think the question is how important you rank career-high ranking, career titles (and WHAT titles), YEC and slams... I think one big difference between those players is though that some of them once belonged to the very top (Tauziat, Huber, Coetzer, Maleeva), while the others never did. So it must be between them. Maggie's 1995 season for example might be the best season of all of these players, but Tauziat was more consistent. I think it's quite close between those four.
Personally I'd rate Rubin the lowest though...

Jenny.C.Fan
Dec 23rd, 2005, 10:11 AM
anke :)

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Dec 23rd, 2005, 11:18 AM
chose anke huber

Shenay La Soul
Dec 23rd, 2005, 12:47 PM
It came down to Huber and Tauziat because they both reached Slam finals.

I looked at their amount of singles titles, Grand Slam record and YEC appearances.

Huber by a landslide.

anabel
Dec 23rd, 2005, 12:57 PM
1 Huber
2 Tauziat
3 Coetzer

the bambi
Dec 23rd, 2005, 01:21 PM
coetzer cause she had more quality wins (conchi, graf, davey, pierce, asv) than the other players on the poll.