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Elldee
Dec 20th, 2005, 09:56 PM
Lindsay Davenport has parted ways with her coach, Adam Peterson, and will work with former pro and Notre Dame standout David DiLucia.

SOURCE: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jon_wertheim/12/20/mailbag/

Thoughts?

Elldee
Dec 20th, 2005, 09:59 PM
http://www.playerdevelopment.usta.com/content/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=123005&itype=7420

Justeenium
Dec 20th, 2005, 10:00 PM
damn it! I wanted Brad Gilbert to coach her.

Ryan
Dec 20th, 2005, 10:01 PM
:tape: Never heard of the guy. Oh well, Lindsay really can't do too much more to improve her game, she just needs to be mentall focused 100% of the time. Hopefully this guy can help her with that.

vwfan
Dec 20th, 2005, 10:35 PM
Lordie, lordie. My girl does go through coaches. If Lindsay can learn to run and believe, she is unstoppable. Otherwise no coach in the world will get her any closer to a grand slam title. She could pull a "tanya harding" and have someone take out Venus and Serena (the two players who stood between her and the title last year!) :p

Lindsayfan32
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:26 PM
Well Lindsay doesn't need someone to change her game just someone to scout matches and being a hitting partner. There also has to be a personality match in there too. Brad Gilbert was never in he mix but it would have interesting just the same. I hope the change brings one thing and that one last slam or two or three or four.

blumaroo
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:28 PM
Hmm. They should work on the mental side. That's it but it's up to Lindsay. Her game can take out anyone. It's that fighting spirit that needs to be revived.

auntie janie
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:29 PM
Didn't Monica work with him for a while? His name sounds familiar.

Lindsayfan32
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:30 PM
Lordie, lordie. My girls does go through coaches. If Lindsay can learn to run and believe, she is unstoppable. Otherwise no coach in the world will get her any closer to a grand slam title. She could pull a "tanya harding" and have someone take out Venus and Serena (the two players who stood between her and the title last year!) :p

Lindsay had the same coach for seven years full time and three years part time before that and I'm talking about robert Van't Hof. She just hasn't been able to keep a coach for very long since. Since it seemed not to working with Adam a change might do her some good and bring her that last slam title and gearing for the slam next year isn't going to do any harm either.

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:34 PM
Lordie, lordie. My girls does go through coaches. If Lindsay can learn to run and believe, she is unstoppable. Otherwise no coach in the world will get her any closer to a grand slam title. She could pull a "tanya harding" and have someone take out Venus and Serena (the two players who stood between her and the title last year!) :p

It's hard for Lindsay. It really takes a lot out of Lindsay to muster up the ability to run. If she could just move like she moves in the video games that she's in, even that would be enough. By the way, Lindsay should be slower in those games to make them more realistic. There's absolutely no way Lindsay moves better than Kim Clijsters.
Lindsay doesn't need to take Venus and Serena out persay.
Just continue to tell Serena she looks good when obviously she's a bit overweight and tell Venus that her hair weave looks good when it doesn't.
The best Lindsay can hope for with Venus is that she chokes herself with that usually awful weave of hers.

vogus
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:35 PM
From what i know, Dave DiLucia is much more of a hard-ass than Adam Peterson who was pretty mellow (and very likable). It's possible that DiLucia, who was a Top 150 ATP player for several years in the 90s, is going to be able to bust Lindsay's ass into shape.

Andrew..
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:49 PM
That's what she needs, a no bullshit coach who isn't afraid to let her have it. Bravo.

vwfan
Dec 21st, 2005, 12:10 AM
It's hard for Lindsay. It really takes a lot out of Lindsay to muster up the ability to run. If she could just move like she moves in the video games that she's in, even that would be enough. By the way, Lindsay should be slower in those games to make them more realistic. There's absolutely no way Lindsay moves better than Kim Clijsters.
Lindsay doesn't need to take Venus and Serena out persay.
Just continue to tell Serena she looks good when obviously she's a bit overweight and tell Venus that her hair weave looks good when it doesn't.
The best Lindsay can hope for with Venus is that she chokes herself with that usually awful weave of hers.not sure what Serena's weight and Venus' weave have to do with anything, but if that all you got. . .that's all you got.
I like Lindsay and I want her to do well and even get another slam, but she has got to run and she has got to believe! Venus can run and is starting to believe and Serena maynot be able to run as well, but boy does she believe. :lol:

Andrew..
Dec 21st, 2005, 12:26 AM
It's not about movement. It's about her attitude and belief.

LH2HBH
Dec 21st, 2005, 12:33 AM
The only thing lacking in Lindsay's game is that fight. She needs to make more of a nuisance of herself on the court - grit her teeth and duke it out when the chips are down. Her game can't really be improved much and her movement is as good as its going to get. Lindsay Davenport has never been a mover. In fact she's slimmer now than she when she won the US Open. So basically - it's all mental with Lindsay

LindsayRocks89
Dec 21st, 2005, 03:00 AM
hopefully he will help her believe in herself so she can get another slam title.

careyscott
Dec 21st, 2005, 03:07 AM
From what i know, Dave DiLucia is much more of a hard-ass than Adam Peterson who was pretty mellow (and very likable). It's possible that DiLucia, who was a Top 150 ATP player for several years in the 90s, is going to be able to bust Lindsay's ass into shape.

I don't see how the former Lindsay "dumptruck" Davenport could be in much better shape. She looks lean and fit (and considering where she started from that is impressive - frankly the Williams sisters appear to be moving in the opposite direction in terms of leaness). Mustering the mental committment is the more apparent problem. Mind you we should all have Lindsay's problems. Her life must be so rough.

LH2HBH
Dec 21st, 2005, 03:10 AM
I don't see how the former Lindsay "dumptruck" Davenport could be in much better shape. She looks lean and fit (and considering where she started from that is impressive - frankly the Williams sisters appear to be moving in the opposite direction in terms of leaness). Mustering the mental committment is the more apparent problem. Mind you we should all have Lindsay's problems. Her life must be so rough.


wow I was thinking about 'dumptruck' earlier and didn't think anyone would remember about that! That was mean, but not as mean as her former coach telling the press that she dances like a refrigerator on the court.

Zauber
Dec 21st, 2005, 03:18 AM
She is not looking for a coach to to develop or change her game. That would have been done a long time ago in her career.
She is simply looking for a coach to fine tune her game and get the most success from her game.
a couple of years ago she got into even better shape. Improving her movement. I know her movement is not great, but that extra step allowed her to play more defense and put more pressure on better moving opponents.
Better movement in one player does not mean that they change from being slow to being fast, or from an offensive player to defensive one.
The change is much more suttle. But it just may make that difference at the highest level. Lindsey was able to beat Venus Williams and Serena Willims again, after suffering a string of defeats.
The extra step may mean a little more time, fewer errors, a more lethal return.

LH2HBH
Dec 21st, 2005, 04:03 AM
She's really quite amazing... she's my #1 favorite on tour right now. Don't know if it's sort of a 'sentimental' favorite because she's in her 'twilight' and she's playing so well but I am cheering for 150%

jacs
Dec 21st, 2005, 09:27 AM
How the heck did this become a Lindsay versus Venus and Serena thread? Things really get seriously weird fast in GM.

And why is alot of you talking about her moverment? That hasn't been an issue with her for a long time. These days, she loses because she's either playing really bad or have these mental lapses. While it doesn't mean she is as fast as some of the more athletic players. it hasn't been the reason for her losses; while it certainly isn't a strength, it stopped being a major issue for her.

LH2HBH
Dec 21st, 2005, 10:14 AM
people still talk about her movement as she is playing well IN SPITE OF her poor movement. She's trimmed down a lot and fine tuned her game

Elldee
Dec 21st, 2005, 10:37 AM
The infuriating thing is that Lindsay's movement varies so much; sometimes she gets some impressive balls and generally manages to put a lot on the ball when she's on the run, and then sometimes she looks VERY sluggish. I don't think a coach can help with this as she already does a lot of physical training but Lindsay's needs to push herself in terms of running down balls from the quarter finals of slams onwards or whenever she really needs to. Lindsay has a great running forehand and then regularly defensively slices her backhand but a squash shot forehand would be helpful.

mike/topgun
Dec 21st, 2005, 12:57 PM
It's about both the mental and the physique side of the game coz they're obviously connected... But importantly it's also bout going for her shots always! not "just hang on in there" waiting for the opponent move; being more active with her foot work, serving cosequently, being EAGER...
Finally it's all bout taking risk everytime while playing those "big points", and keeping herself on the move, taking the advantage first...JUST GO FOR IT LINDSAY, don't mind about the consequences you have nothing to prove anymore...you're already one of the best players ever! MUST DO YOUR BEST TO GET TO THE FINALS AGAIN,
MUST GET THIS 4TH GS TITLE SOMEDAY :p

LostInThe80s
Dec 21st, 2005, 03:47 PM
I don't know what to think. If DiLucia can coach Linds to another Slam then I'll think he's :hearts:

lindsayno1
Dec 21st, 2005, 05:29 PM
all he needs to give her is confidence and belief and she has a slam.

foreva lindsay
Dec 21st, 2005, 05:40 PM
Byeeee Adam :sad:

Hope this new coach brings her more luck in those GS Finals ;)

LH2HBH
Dec 21st, 2005, 05:42 PM
Lindsay has a great running forehand and then regularly defensively slices her backhand but a squash shot forehand would be helpful.


Lindsay also utilizes an overhead follow-thru on her forehand which was once considered incorrect and is now becoming more and more common. Masha and Lindsay use it almost 50% of the time and so does Myskina. It's very good for when you are not quite in position to hit the ball with a clean follow-thru and it was a very smart shot for Lindsay to add to her game. Not sure when I remember seeing it for the first time or if she has done it all along.

pierce0415
Dec 21st, 2005, 05:49 PM
Linds was moving OK in USO until the QF against Lena D :tape: :tape: :tape:

creep
Dec 21st, 2005, 06:28 PM
What's she want and need a new coach for? At her time of life.

auntie janie
Dec 21st, 2005, 06:39 PM
Okay, I think I have things straight now. Monica Seles used to work with Micheal Sell, who used to play doubles on the ATP Tour with DiLucia. So that is their connection.

But DiLucia has coached a WTA player before, too. He worked with Lisa Raymond at one point.

!<blocparty>!
Dec 21st, 2005, 06:43 PM
The infuriating thing is that Lindsay's movement varies so much; sometimes she gets some impressive balls and generally manages to put a lot on the ball when she's on the run, and then sometimes she looks VERY sluggish. I don't think a coach can help with this as she already does a lot of physical training but Lindsay's needs to push herself in terms of running down balls from the quarter finals of slams onwards or whenever she really needs to. Lindsay has a great running forehand and then regularly defensively slices her backhand but a squash shot forehand would be helpful.

I agree. Her movement against Kim at Wimbledon this year was spectacular for Lindsay. She was getting to drop shots, wide angled shots and smacking them away for winners. (*those 3 running FH's in the third :drool:*) That and the Wimbledon final was the best I've ever seen her move.

Anyway...movement isn't a problem and isn't stopping her from winning slam titles. This new coach sounds good... him and Gwen Stefani are gonna turn Lindsay into a tennis superstar. Step aside Masha, Queen Lindsay is here.

Lindsayfan32
Dec 21st, 2005, 08:46 PM
Lindsay also utilizes an overhead follow-thru on her forehand which was once considered incorrect and is now becoming more and more common. Masha and Lindsay use it almost 50% of the time and so does Myskina. It's very good for when you are not quite in position to hit the ball with a clean follow-thru and it was a very smart shot for Lindsay to add to her game. Not sure when I remember seeing it for the first time or if she has done it all along.

I have followed Lindsay since 94 and she's been doing it for as long as I can remeber. But it a better shot than the squash shot as it doesn't sit up it stays down low and slides away for the oppenet. Lot like Lindsay's serve when it going well.

lindsayno1
Dec 21st, 2005, 09:46 PM
loving the gwen stefani connection!

bis2806
Dec 22nd, 2005, 12:22 AM
I've never heard of DiLucia :confused:

I will miss sexy Adam though :sad: