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pierce0415
Dec 20th, 2005, 04:59 PM
Roland Garros (http://angelfire.com/space2/wta2/tur2005/rola2005.htm)June 5 2005
1S Karatantcheva - A Bondarenko (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/bond2337.htm)4-6 7-5 6-4
2S Karatantcheva - S Asagoe (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/asag577.htm)(19)7-5 6-2
3S Karatantcheva - V Williams (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/will43.htm)(11)6-3 1-6 6-1
4S Karatantcheva - E Gagliardi (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/gagl351.htm)7-5 6-3
QF E Likhovtseva (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/likh107.htm)(16) - S Karatantcheva2-6 6-4 6-4

PREGNANT :confused: -----------------------------------------------------

Wimbledon (http://angelfire.com/space2/wta2/tur2005/wimb2046.htm)July 3 2005
1S Karatantcheva - A Janes (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/jane495.htm)7-5 6-76 7-5
2M Sharapova (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/shar1638.htm)(2) - S Karatantcheva6-0 6-1

Fed Cup Play-offs (http://angelfire.com/space2/wta2/tur2005/fedc2074.htm)July 10 2005
A Morigami (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/mori581.htm) - S Karatantcheva2-6 7-64 6-0

San Diego (http://angelfire.com/space2/wta2/tur2005/sand2109.htm)Aug 7 2005
1S Karatantcheva - S Asagoe (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/asag577.htm)(13)6-1 0-6 7-5
2S Karatantcheva - L Raymond (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/raym172.htm)7-66 6-4
3S Karatantcheva - M Washington (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/wash420.htm)6-1 6-2
QF A Sugiyama (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/sugi109.htm) - S Karatantcheva6-1 6-2

Toronto (http://angelfire.com/space2/wta2/tur2005/toro2128.htm)Aug 21 2005
1S Karatantcheva - J Craybas (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/cray462.htm)6-2 2-6 6-3
2N Petrova (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/petr776.htm)(6) - S Karatantcheva4-6 6-1 6-4

US Open (http://angelfire.com/space2/wta2/tur2005/usop2148.htm)Sep 11 2005
1S Karatantcheva - M Shaughnessy (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/shau292.htm)2-6 7-5 7-5
2A Mauresmo (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/maur131.htm)(3) - S Karatantcheva6-0 6-1

Filderstadt (http://angelfire.com/space2/wta2/tur2005/fild2202.htm)Oct 9 2005
Qual 1S Gehrlein (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/gehr876.htm) - S Karatantcheva-WC(1)6-2 7-62

Moscow (http://angelfire.com/space2/wta2/tur2005/mosc2213.htm)Oct 16 2005
Qual 1S Karatantcheva-WC(2) - M Salerni (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/sale1401.htm)6-3 6-3
Qual 2S Karatantcheva-WC(2) - A Kleybanova (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/kley5437.htm)-WC1-6 6-1 6-3
Qual 3S Karatantcheva-WC(2) - L Raymond (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/raym172.htm)4-6 6-2 6-1
1S Karatantcheva-Q - J Jankovic (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/jank1482.htm)6-2 6-1
2E Dementieva (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/deme533.htm)(4) - S Karatantcheva-Q6-0 6-1

Zurich (http://angelfire.com/space2/wta2/tur2005/zuri2225.htm)Oct 23 2005
Qual 1S Karatantcheva(7) - M Muller (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/mull877.htm)6-1 6-4
Qual 2S Karatantcheva(7) - S Kleinova (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/klei82.htm)-WC7-63 6-3
Qual 3A Sugiyama (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/sugi109.htm)(2) - S Karatantcheva(7)6-1 6-2
1S Karatantcheva-LLbye
2F Pennetta (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/penn943.htm)-LL - S Karatantcheva-LL5-7 6-1 6-3

Linz (http://www.geocities.com/wtatur/tur2005/linz2236.htm)Oct 30 2005
1S Karatantcheva - Y Meusburger (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/meus1886.htm)-LL7-63 6-3
2T Golovin (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/golo5341.htm)(9) - S Karatantcheva6-4 7-62

Philadelphia (http://www.geocities.com/wtatur/tur2005/phil2247.htm)Nov 6 2005
1S Karatantcheva - V Zvonareva (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/zvon1425.htm)(9)7-5 6-3
2K Peschke (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/pesc665.htm) - S Karatantcheva6-1 6-0

alwayshingis
Dec 20th, 2005, 05:14 PM
It's because she wasn't really pregnant...

pierce0415
Dec 20th, 2005, 05:25 PM
It's because she wasn't really pregnant...

I agree. Seems like her entourage invited this excuse to explain the high levels of the drug but didn't think to back it up and fill in the holes

Pengttaya
Dec 20th, 2005, 05:27 PM
Mhmm I am not sure, remember, she was eating bagel's and breadsticks for two people now....:tape:

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 20th, 2005, 05:31 PM
I agree. Seems like her entourage invited this excuse to explain the high levels of the drug but didn't think to back it up and fill in the holes

Her pre-Roland Garros schedule explains it. ;)
Two months off the tour during her favorite surface. You don't find that just a bit odd?

le bon vivant
Dec 20th, 2005, 05:35 PM
Dangggggg, the bagel and breadsticks......

Andrew..
Dec 20th, 2005, 05:41 PM
Her pre-Roland Garros schedule explains it. ;)
Two months off the tour during her favorite surface. You don't find that just a bit odd?
She had used up all of the events she could play. Remember, AER at 15 is a pretty light schedule.

CrossCourt~Rally
Dec 20th, 2005, 05:43 PM
Next time Andy Roddick should wear a condem :lol: j/k ;) :p

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 20th, 2005, 05:48 PM
Yeah. I know about that. Still the fact remains that it doesn't make too much sense that Sesil would schedule to play 5 tournis after the US Open on what is probably her worse surface and not play a tourni on clay after winning the juniors French Open.

Helen Lawson
Dec 20th, 2005, 06:00 PM
I'm assuming that if she REALLY was pregnant, that she had an abortion and is just using the "miscarriage" term as a euphemism. It's just likie Julie Christie in "Darling" when she's telling the audience in the voice-over about her miscarriage, but on-screen, she's in the hospital getting an abortion.

hablo
Dec 20th, 2005, 07:14 PM
there was this woman basketball player who played for seven months while she was pregnant and didn't realize it :tape:

I'd go look it up on the web but I'm too lazy :p

daniela86
Dec 20th, 2005, 08:24 PM
Well, according to L''Equipe's article,Sesil said she had a miscarriage,maybe this miscarriage happened some months before the end of the season so her pregnancy didn't affect her schedule that much.
Btw,I agree with Wannabeknowitall,it's indeed strange she didn't play more tournaments on her best surface.

Cp6uja
Dec 20th, 2005, 08:57 PM
S Karatantcheva - V Williams (http://angelfire.com/space2/wta2/tur2005/rola2005.htm)(11)6-3 1-6 6-1


PREGNANT :confused: -----------------------------------------------------




M Sharapova (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/shar1638.htm)(2) - S Karatantcheva6-0 6-1

A Sugiyama (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/sugi109.htm) - S Karatantcheva6-1 6-2

A Mauresmo (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/maur131.htm)(3) - S Karatantcheva6-0 6-1

E Dementieva (http://home17.inet.tele.dk/wta/sp/deme533.htm)(4) - S Karatantcheva-Q6-0 6-1

K Peschke - S Karatantcheva6-1 6-0

NOT PREGNANT -----------------------------------------------------






So... who is "lucky pater":

a) Doctor
b) Apothecary
c) Chemist
d) Alchemist
e) Biologist
f) Magician
g) Wizard


Now seriously... with 15, she realy not enabled for that "crime" (like Puerta for example) without "strong support" (instruction/ordering) her trener/parents/"sponsors"...etc.

esquímaux
Dec 20th, 2005, 10:08 PM
Mhmm I am not sure, remember, she was eating bagel's and breadsticks for two people now....:tape:OMG! :spit::rolls::rolls::rolls:

Derek.
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:02 PM
Mhmm I am not sure, remember, she was eating bagel's and breadsticks for two people now....:tape:

LOL! :lol: :haha: :lol:

fammmmedspin
Dec 21st, 2005, 12:24 AM
Birds and Bees 101

Bird+Bee = 1 cell.Bird is now pregnant
1 cell = 2, 4 cells..........
9 months later bird gives birth to millions of cells called "baby" Bird is no longer pregnant.

Losing the cells at any point after they take root is a miscarriage.

Carrying a few microscopic extra cells around won't weigh you down and the hormone changes might help. Its hardly going to effect her tennis early on.

drake3781
Dec 21st, 2005, 01:36 AM
I don't think she was really pregant; this was an excuse.

But........ if she were pregnant, she could easily not know it until she had her "miscarriage" so it wouldn't affect her schedule or results.

Miranda
Dec 21st, 2005, 01:59 AM
already pregnant at just 15 :eek: :eek:

LH2HBH
Dec 21st, 2005, 02:09 AM
someone enlighten me as to how being pregnant is related to having the drug in her system

kammgretel
Dec 21st, 2005, 04:28 AM
Maybe she is just a little fat and the paunch seems a little big...

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 21st, 2005, 05:51 AM
ew... Maria had to PWN her on Wimbledon...

Derek.
Dec 21st, 2005, 06:39 PM
someone enlighten me as to how being pregnant is related to having the drug in her system

Hormones and maybe medicines for being pregnant. :confused:

Volcana
Dec 21st, 2005, 06:44 PM
Maybe the schedule caused the miscarriage?

TeamUSA#1
Dec 21st, 2005, 07:58 PM
Maybe the schedule caused the miscarriage?


exactly!

daanharmsen
Dec 21st, 2005, 08:26 PM
Being pregnant causes you to produce large amounts of oestrogenes, progestagenes.

salima
Dec 21st, 2005, 08:28 PM
hm, trying to explain something complicated in not my own language.
During the first weeks of the pregnancy the female body produces a lot of hormones, who are encreasing the performance level for an athlete.
This is well documented in horse racing, and was regularily used by sports autorities in old DDR. Soviet, and probably by others. For cross-country skiing and track and field athlets an abortion was provocated some days after the competition.
having said this, I personly don't believe in the tennis players pregnancy story.

*Jool*
Dec 21st, 2005, 09:19 PM
miscarriages and abortion are 2 extremely hard things to pass over , she gas no blanks in her schedule , I find it strange...

iWill
Dec 21st, 2005, 10:47 PM
Furthermore what is she doing pregnant at only 15!!!!!!!!!!!

hablo
Dec 21st, 2005, 11:17 PM
Furthermore what is she doing pregnant at only 15!!!!!!!!!!!
it happens, condoms and the pill aren't 100 percent effective :rolleyes:

fammmmedspin
Dec 21st, 2005, 11:27 PM
someone enlighten me as to how being pregnant is related to having the drug in her system

There are tales of euopean athletes in the cold war days having pregnancis and abortions to get the hormone boost.

Less incredibly a lot of top runners report being stronger runners after giving birth as aresult of the hormonal changes.

Jeff
Dec 22nd, 2005, 12:51 AM
I agree that Sesil being pregnant was likely a lie, although I'm not sure why a girl her age would use that for an excuse. A pregnant athlete at her age sure doesn't bode well for her reputation either.

pla
Dec 22nd, 2005, 03:01 PM
I was away for couple of days and I must say I now understand why she was so devastated this year. When someone from her entourage said she has SERIOUS personal problems, when she was crying during matches..

Poor little girl. In the Bulgarian press they said she really was pregnant during this year but no one knows when exactly. A lot of things she said and did this year are now clear. The problem is if she was pregnant, when was it, was she doped and who gave a 15year old girl doping!

I don't know what to say, I am waiting for the official investigations to be finished. I only know, someone is destroying a young girl very successfully.

tennisrox
Dec 22nd, 2005, 03:35 PM
I was away for couple of days and I must say I now understand why she was so devastated this year. When someone from her entourage said she has SERIOUS personal problems, when she was crying during matches..

Poor little girl. In the Bulgarian press they said she really was pregnant during this year but no one knows when exactly. A lot of things she said and did this year are now clear. The problem is if she was pregnant, when was it, was she doped and who gave a 15year old girl doping!

I don't know what to say, I am waiting for the official investigations to be finished. I only know, someone is destroying a young girl very successfully.

I don't believe this preganancy story,as sesil herself denied it.The real problem is her pushy father.Nick said he kicked sesil out of his academy because of her father trying to boss him around and dictate everything.I think that is the real problem.No wonder Sesil was crying.I wouldn't be surprised if Sesil's father forced her to take the drug to enhance her performance.
The pregnancy story was an ill-thought out cover up to explain the high levels on Nandrolone in the sample.Nandrolone is normally produced in the body,and excreted in minute amounts,which is elevated during a pragnancy.But since the pregnancy tests were negative,I don't believe the story.
This sounds like another Damir Dokic story in the making.Poor Sesil :hug:

pla
Dec 22nd, 2005, 04:17 PM
I don't believe this preganancy story,as sesil herself denied it.The real problem is her pushy father.Nick said he kicked sesil out of his academy because of her father trying to boss him around and dictate everything.I think that is the real problem.No wonder Sesil was crying.I wouldn't be surprised if Sesil's father forced her to take the drug to enhance her performance.
The pregnancy story was an ill-thought out cover up to explain the high levels on Nandrolone in the sample.Nandrolone is normally produced in the body,and excreted in minute amounts,which is elevated during a pragnancy.But since the pregnancy tests were negative,I don't believe the story.
This sounds like another Damir Dokic story in the making.Poor Sesil :hug:

In fact Sesil didn't deny she was pregnant, she said she never talked about this as an excuse before a sports judge (ITF) as she never had a meeting about this subject with ITF.

About the pregnancy test, a doctor should enlighten us, if she made the misscarriage before RG if the steroid would sill be detectable in her body or they diminuish extreamly rapidly.

I don't know, really those stories about her father.. And the fact that she didn't travel with him anymore and she had a harsh dispute with him. I don't know.. Really, it's a pity someone is destroying this girl wich is like a sunshine.

creep
Dec 22nd, 2005, 05:01 PM
Poor kid. I honestly (hand on heart) feel sorry for her. She’s very young and goodness knows what’s being said to her, to influence her. Anyway it’s funny how she’s being lambasted on here, but she supplied me with one of my favourite tennis memories of this year.
When she was playing Maria Sharapova on Centre Court at Wimbledon and she hadn’t won a game, then when she did, the crowd went berserk, applauding and cheering her for minutes. Her beaming smile I’ll never forget that day. I hope she recaptures it soon.:)

tennisrox
Dec 22nd, 2005, 05:24 PM
Poor kid. I honestly (hand on heart) feel sorry for her. She’s very young and goodness knows what’s being said to her, to influence her. Anyway it’s funny how she’s being lambasted on here, but she supplied me with one of my favourite tennis memories of this year.
When she was playing Maria Sharapova on Centre Court at Wimbledon and she hadn’t won a game, then when she did, the crowd went berserk, applauding and cheering her for minutes. Her beaming smile I’ll never forget that day. I hope she recaptures it soon.:)

I think she's quite misunderstood.She is a tad immature,but from what I saw of her,she seemed like a genuinely nice kid.I like her guts anyway.Poor kid.I hope someone with half a brain takes her in hand.She's still got time,even if she does have to serve a ban.Unfortunately we've seen stupid parents ruin their kids like this all too many times.

I started to dislike Maria after she said that she'd let Sesil win that game.What a Bi&#h!Maybe Sesil was stupid to to say she'd kick maria's ass off,but she was a young rookie.Maria is an established superstar with nothing to prove.There was no need for her comment.The result spoke for itself.

creep
Dec 22nd, 2005, 07:19 PM
I think she's quite misunderstood.She is a tad immature,but from what I saw of her,she seemed like a genuinely nice kid.I like her guts anyway.Poor kid.I hope someone with half a brain takes her in hand.She's still got time,even if she does have to serve a ban.Unfortunately we've seen stupid parents ruin their kids like this all too many times.

I started to dislike Maria after she said that she'd let Sesil win that game.What a Bi&#h!Maybe Sesil was stupid to to say she'd kick maria's ass off,but she was a young rookie.Maria is an established superstar with nothing to prove.There was no need for her comment.The result spoke for itself.

I'm here for her! :)

lol Seriously, is that what she said? Maybe it was TIC after what Sesil said?

Helen Lawson
Dec 22nd, 2005, 07:21 PM
Come on! I was a conniving bitch-woman at 15 who knew exactly what she wanted and what I was doing.

creep
Dec 22nd, 2005, 07:43 PM
Come on! I was a conniving bitch-woman at 15 who knew exactly what she wanted and what I was doing.

Youre a hard ticket Helen and high maintenance. :)

the bambi
Dec 23rd, 2005, 01:30 PM
sesil wasn't pregnant. this was a pr move that backfired. :tape:

Furthermore what is she doing pregnant at only 15!!!!!!!!!!!

it's not a crime and you know what sherlock? many geniuses were born when their moms were teenagers. get out of the 50's!