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Apoorv
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:21 PM
I think its off season so we can discuss all this rubbish stuff.

On ATP there have been a lot of players who really create a rapport with viewers. eg Nastase(sp), McEnroe and Conners were quite vocal though mostly in negative sense. In present time we have Marat Safin who is quite a personality. It really makes it a lot fun to watch tennis matches along with the quality tennis.

In WTA also Navi and Evert used to chat even during the finals of wimbledon. Though it was only during late seventies. By 1999 Steffi Graf had started showing some emotions on court and used to enjoy matches and was no more a cold matchine destroying her opponents. I remember her and McEnroe playing mixed doubles in 99 wimbledon. They faced Venus Williams and Justine Gimbelstob in quarter finals. It was a good match over all. McEnroe shouted on Graf when she hit a ball in net and Graf just pointed to her head and gave him a chill pill. it was fun to watch. it didnt affect her performance and infact that was the best i saw her playing in doubles.

Present set of girls take things very seriously which is a good thing but it would be nice if we have some personalities with good sense of humour to make matches more interesting. I just what to know my fellow members' :) opinion about it

SelesFan70
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:22 PM
All I know is some posters on WTAWorld have ZERO humor... :lol:

hingis-seles
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:24 PM
I think women's tennis has always had it's share of characters, whether it's Patty Schnyder being a juvenille delinquent, Irina Spirlea bumping into Venus Williams or hitting spectators, Monica Seles (pre-stabbing) being a diva or Martina Hingis throwing tantrums during her matches.

Craigy
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:25 PM
I think Serena has humour on court

"Sluggy"
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:25 PM
Yes, I agree. Not too many players have a sense of humour that comes across.

Apoorv
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:33 PM
I think women's tennis has always had it's share of characters, whether it's Patty Schnyder being a juvenille delinquent, Irina Spirlea bumping into Venus Williams or hitting spectators, Monica Seles (pre-stabbing) being a diva or Martina Hingis throwing tantrums during her matches.

I remember Graf and Seles matches generated tremendous atmosphere especially during pre stabbing times. One can find most of the present players remembering graf-seles 92 roland garros final as a big inspiration. such was the quality, effort and passion.

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:37 PM
I think Lindsay is funny on the court. It's a natural funny. The sighs and the curses and the oh I'm not running for that.
Most of the time, she still finds a way to win. It's like a weird sitcom with herself.
I thought the French Open this year was the funniest for her.
She probably went out there with the coaxing of her husband and he was nowhere to be found the first week.
She really just looked like she was saying, "Fuck this. The food sucks, this court still isn't green after I seeded it, and I'm really craving some American ****. I guess If I stay a week then at least John can bring some american food and some ****."
"Are you f-ing kidding me. I'm the last hope for the Americans on clay. What the **** happened."

Spunky83
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:40 PM
Well...just think back (or look around) in your school classes and tell me which gender the class clown had. They are mostly male.

Furthermore, Navratilova said it once...the ATP players are all about fun and competition, the young WTA players are always crying in the lockerrooms after losses and taking everything too serious.

Purple_Llama
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:52 PM
Yeah I agree-I still miss Gigi Fernandez & Nat Zvereva who always had fun on court & made the match all the more memorable.

auntie janie
Dec 19th, 2005, 01:08 PM
I think a lot of the players have fun during Mixed matches. They are relaxed. SOME players can also bring this attitude to doubles, because the outcome of the match doesn't mean that much to them.

But even Evert, Nav, Graf -- NONE of these ladies showed much, if any, humor during their singles matches. Figuring out a way to win was the crucial thing to them, and they had to concentrate fully on each point to do that.

The top players today rarely enter the mixed, and few even play doubles very often, so we don't get to see their relaxed or charming sides. A lot of them are probably great fun to be around when they are away from the tournament setting, but we aren't going to get many glimpses of that until they retire and can really let their hair down. Or maybe in the odd exo we can see that side of them -- but then you aren't going to get the same level of tennis as in a tournament, either. You can't have everything, at least not all at once! :cool:

vogus
Dec 19th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Patty thinks she has a sense of humor, but she doesn't. Her attitude is "I'm so entertaining." And she is, but not for the reason she thinks. Which is very funny in an ironic sort of way.

pla
Dec 19th, 2005, 01:16 PM
I am sure about two tennis players that have a great sense of humour- Serena and Sesil. :haha: I suspect Francesca to have a nice sense of humour too.

Pureracket
Dec 19th, 2005, 01:24 PM
Well, I think there's a bit of pressure on women in general to be somewhat guarded and "ladylike." As a society, we seem to prefer the catty nature of female/female relationships. Certainly, if these women on the Tour started with the toilet humour a la Connors we'd strip them of their diva like status.

I'm not sure if we can have it both ways ya'll.

Martyś
Dec 19th, 2005, 01:29 PM
Francesca is very funny player on court. Did you see this year Moscow final ? :)

hingis-seles
Dec 19th, 2005, 01:49 PM
Francesca is hilarious! I saw the Bali final and the Moscow final. :lol:

And does anyone here remember a certain unseeded 15-year-old throwing roses into the crowd before her third-round match against Zina Garrison at her Roland Garros debut in 1989? :devil:

hingis-seles
Dec 19th, 2005, 01:52 PM
aWell, I think there's a bit of pressure on women in general to be somewhat guarded and "ladylike." As a society, we seem to prefer the catty nature of female/female relationships. Certainly, if these women on the Tour started with the toilet humour a la Connors we'd strip them of their diva like status.

I'm not sure if we can have it both ways ya'll.

Spot on.

When Monica grunted, everyone jumped all over her, but when Agassi and Connors did it, no one said a word.

Can you imagine Venus or Serena behaving like McEnroe did back in his day with the umpires (or even how JenPot behaved on court)? They'd be ripped apart as being "catty" and "bitches". Lindsay Davenport gets away with so much more than the other girls (like Hingis and WilliamsX2), but that's a whole different topic...sort of.

Diesel
Dec 19th, 2005, 04:38 PM
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Spot on.

When Monica grunted, everyone jumped all over her, but when Agassi and Connors did it, no one said a word.

Can you imagine Venus or Serena behaving like McEnroe did back in his day with the umpires (or even how JenPot behaved on court)? They'd be ripped apart as being "catty" and "bitches". Lindsay Davenport gets away with so much more than the other girls (like Hingis and WilliamsX2), but that's a whole different topic...sort of.

Co-sign on this post :yeah:

guyinsf
Dec 19th, 2005, 05:01 PM
Yes I agree, today's players lack a good sense of humor! Evert, navratilova, Billie King, M. Court, Graf, Seles, Shriver, Austin, Lenglen, Moody, Conolly, Goolagong, Wade, Andrea Jaeger, mandlikova, Sanchez-vicario, Maleeva sisters, Sukova and Sabatini were all standup comedians before they turned pro in tennis.

Jakeev
Dec 20th, 2005, 10:19 AM
Francesca is very funny player on court. Did you see this year Moscow final ? :)

She totally cracks me up. Hell just that grunt of her's when she is retrieving a tough shot cracks me up. Nicole Pratt is rather funny to watch and I love those Lindsay Davenport screams when you know she just messed up.

petey_pan
Dec 20th, 2005, 10:27 AM
Yes pratt has very funny antics

Evie Dominikovic has had me in laughing fits in some of her matches...... she swears so much and just cracks up at herself it's very funny

Prizeidiot
Dec 20th, 2005, 10:32 AM
Girls these days do seem to lack a sense of humour. They take it WAY to seriously. A lot of tears, smashed rackets. It's as if they perceive tennis as a simply a job, rather than something they love to do. And a lot of that is due to the professionalism of the sport. If any negatives have come out of Open Tennis that's it. It's just not as fun anymore. Player's will barely even hang out with each other.

matthias
Dec 20th, 2005, 10:41 AM
Girls these days do seem to lack a sense of humour. They take it WAY to seriously. A lot of tears, smashed rackets. It's as if they perceive tennis as a simply a job, rather than something they love to do. And a lot of that is due to the professionalism of the sport. If any negatives have come out of Open Tennis that's it. It's just not as fun anymore. Player's will barely even hang out with each other.

thats my view too

CooCooCachoo
Dec 20th, 2005, 10:42 AM
Francesca is hilarious! I saw the Bali final and the Moscow final. :lol:

And does anyone here remember a certain unseeded 15-year-old throwing roses into the crowd before her third-round match against Zina Garrison at her Roland Garros debut in 1989? :devil:

Francesca is great :yeah:

Corswandt
Dec 20th, 2005, 03:53 PM
Well...just think back (or look around) in your school classes and tell me which gender the class clown had. They are mostly male.

Overwhelmingly male. Not to say I haven't met very witty girls, but they're usually more restrained (social pressure?) than their male equivalents.

That said, nowadays it's fairly common for a woman to be the main entertainer at a large dinner table - and not by acting ditzy.

Corswandt
Dec 20th, 2005, 03:59 PM
Well, I think there's a bit of pressure on women in general to be somewhat guarded and "ladylike." As a society, we seem to prefer the catty nature of female/female relationships. Certainly, if these women on the Tour started with the toilet humour a la Connors we'd strip them of their diva like status.

I'm not sure if we can have it both ways ya'll.

You've hit the nail right on the head. Even today, a woman (at least an attractive one) being a potty mouth and/or telling filthy jokes is a wonder in herself.

But, speaking for myself, I wouldn't mind some more humour, however crass, from the WTA players.

Apoorv
Dec 20th, 2005, 06:03 PM
I dont recommend McEnroe type humor but I would prefer if at times players can make a little smile or something or make a funny joke and get ready for next point if they hit something out or in net rather than smashing their racket like sometimes lindsay davenport does. i know its not possible to do all the time and by everyone but at least there should be some incidents. in easy words they should take the things easily.

but we can also say that the competition is very tough so that might be taking its toll upon them.

AsGoodAsNew
Dec 20th, 2005, 06:52 PM
I think women's tennis has always had it's share of characters, whether it's Patty Schnyder being a juvenille delinquent, Irina Spirlea bumping into Venus Williams or hitting spectators, Monica Seles (pre-stabbing) being a diva or Martina Hingis throwing tantrums during her matches.
Monica was flamboyant, throwing flowers into the crowd, but was she a Diva? In what way? Not disagreeing, just curious!

LH2HBH
Dec 20th, 2005, 06:56 PM
I think the players are so concerned with saying the right thing to the media that they are unable to be humourous. It seems that they never want to give away their game plan or admit that something is wrong therefore are not free enough to be funny. Especially Venus and Maria, bless 'em --- are both very adept at speaking with the media without saying anything at all.

azinna
Dec 20th, 2005, 07:17 PM
Yes I agree, today's players lack a good sense of humor! Evert, navratilova, Billie King, M. Court, Graf, Seles, Shriver, Austin, Lenglen, Moody, Conolly, Goolagong, Wade, Andrea Jaeger, mandlikova, Sanchez-vicario, Maleeva sisters, Sukova and Sabatini were all standup comedians before they turned pro in tennis.


:lol: I know. All I could come up with was "What?" Glad you had the presence to come up with a few more choice words....

hingis-seles
Dec 20th, 2005, 07:23 PM
Monica was flamboyant, throwing flowers into the crowd, but was she a Diva? In what way? Not disagreeing, just curious!

She was once quoted as saying that she didn't speak to any of the players ranked below her (while she was ranked number one). She used to change her hairstyles/hair color all the time. In 1992, after Rome, when she reached Paris she accidentally went to the wrong stylist and her hair was dyed black. The press was furious when they discovered this, because a lot of them had gotten interviews from her in Rome to use during RG coverage which would now be useless since she was no longer blonde. She craved attention. Her withdrawl from Wimbledon in 1991 caused headlines and a media circus. The WTA was getting annoyed at her behavior in 1991 and there was even talk of her getting suspended from the game (suggested by Bud Collins for her behavior in withdrawing from '91 Wimbledon). That's just off the top of my head. Monica did a lot of stuff in her day - kind of like Serena today, except she won a lot more and was more focused.

Wsisters45
Dec 20th, 2005, 07:24 PM
She was once quoted as saying that she didn't speak to any of the players ranked below her (while she was ranked number one). She used to change her hairstyles/hair color all the time. In 1992, after Rome, when she reached Paris she accidentally went to the wrong stylist and her hair was dyed black. The press was furious when they discovered this, because a lot of them had gotten interviews from her in Rome to use during RG coverage which would now be useless since she was no longer blonde. She craved attention. Her withdrawl from Wimbledon in 1991 caused headlines and a media circus. The WTA was getting annoyed at her behavior in 1991 and there was even talk of her getting suspended from the game (suggested by Bud Collins for her behavior in withdrawing from '91 Wimbledon). That's just off the top of my head. Monica did a lot of stuff in her day - kind of like Serena today, except she won a lot more and was more focused.




:lol: :lol:

partbrit
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:11 PM
It goes without saying that Schiavone takes her sense of humor to the court. I think Serena can be quite amusing on the court, and sometimes Maria, too. And Myskina certainly doesn't leave her sense of humor behind when she is on court.

Hayato
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:19 PM
the players I like don't.

iPatty
Dec 20th, 2005, 11:49 PM
Franny :bowdown: I love watching her matches, not only for her incredible talent, but for her hilarious antics on court. A true entertainer.
Watching Lindsay cuss herself out on court is hilarious to me. I guess its not saying she has a sense of humor, she is just funny to me :lol:

Patty thinks she has a sense of humor, but she doesn't. Her attitude is "I'm so entertaining." And she is, but not for the reason she thinks. Which is very funny in an ironic sort of way.

:shrug: I never noticed Patty trying to be funny on court. Her talent is entertaining enough to watch :hearts:

Zauber
Dec 21st, 2005, 03:51 AM
Its tough when you get picked apart all over the world in places like this.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Dec 21st, 2005, 05:49 AM
Maria Sharapova doesn't lack of humour neither is super humourous.. but her personality is so cute that you finish laughing anyways

Mightymirza
Dec 21st, 2005, 06:32 AM
Myskina is really funny in offcourt interviews...