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spiceboy
Dec 15th, 2005, 07:49 PM
Our Eyes Are Everywhere

Posted 12/15/2005 @ 12:04 PM

TennisWorld received a field report on Martina Hingis from one of our spies in the high-level coaching ranks. The intel:

She is hitting the ball well enough to beat anyone, all the way up to the highest level. She's moving well, but has altered the footwork on her serve somewhat, striking the ball with her feet further apart. Her backhand is still superb, but she generates noticeably more power when she closes up and gets away from the open-stance stroke that seems to be the flavor-of-the-month.

That's what we got.

http://www.peterbodostennisworld.com/

iPatty
Dec 15th, 2005, 07:53 PM
Marti :hearts:
Good enough to beat anyone is pretty high praise. But how will that power hold up in a match situation?

Martyś
Dec 15th, 2005, 07:55 PM
We will see if she can beat the best players at AO. For now, I don't believe ;)

VeeReeDavJCap81
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:04 PM
Can't wait to see her at AO.

sioul
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:09 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

work those shots martina!!!!

WORK IT LIKE SOMEONE STOLE SOMETHING FROM YO MAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hearts: :hearts:

jrm
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:10 PM
Sure ... and i'm Tina Turner!

LH2HBH
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:27 PM
It's good to know she has the strokes!! We'll just see how long it takes her to get 'match tough.'

volta
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:30 PM
we gonna see that on the court on real matches not on practice. good luck to her though

Craigy
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Sure ... and i'm Tina Turner!
:lol:

!<blocparty>!
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:42 PM
Lolz.

Marti. :hearts:

hablo
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:43 PM
sounds like good news ! :bounce:

areeka101
Dec 15th, 2005, 08:46 PM
I saw her hit some shots during her exhibtion with Kourni and she seemed to be striking the ball VERY well.

QUEENLINDSAY
Dec 15th, 2005, 09:01 PM
Go Martina!!!

alwayshingis
Dec 15th, 2005, 09:18 PM
very encouraging :banana:

Pheobo
Dec 15th, 2005, 09:20 PM
SQUEE! :bounce:

hingis-seles
Dec 15th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Let's hope so....*fingers crossed*

Volcana
Dec 15th, 2005, 09:24 PM
The problem was never how well SHE hit the ball. It was how well the opponent hit the ball. I'm really interested in seeing how well she runs. (Having her enter and win Sydney would sure turn a few heads, mine include.)

TonyP
Dec 15th, 2005, 09:27 PM
We shall see what we shall see. My only prediction is this: Martina is no fool, as I think everyone will agree, whether your like her or hate her. Anyway, she is not coming back to get her butt kicked. Why would she do that? She is much to prideful a girl to just hang around hoping to win the odd match here or there. She is coming back to do well.

Whether she can or cannot, only time will tell. But you can look at the match she played one year ago in Pattaya City, where she lost to a journeywoman player, and then see the big improvements as she ripped through the WTT season.

She seems to be working on things and I think, once she gets match tough, that she may surprise people.

If she doesn't, I don't think she'll stick around long.

bellascarlett
Dec 15th, 2005, 10:09 PM
Wow I actually spent a good amount of time reading on that site...thanks...but isnt this the guy who doesnt like Mary? haha...and some posters don't really care for?

K-Dog
Dec 15th, 2005, 10:10 PM
The thing is that in practice, most players look awesome. Heck in practice I'm a 5.0 player, but in matches I'm 4.5. Put Hingis against Venus, Lindsay, Maria, Kim, or Justine and I guarentee that she wouldn't look like this world beater that they are claiming her to be. Sure she would still look good, but unless you are practicing with a peer, it just isn't the same.

bellascarlett
Dec 15th, 2005, 10:10 PM
The problem was never how well SHE hit the ball. It was how well the opponent hit the ball. I'm reall interested in seeing how ell she runs. (Having her enter and win Sydney would sure turn a few heads, mine include.)

good call... ;)

K-Dog
Dec 15th, 2005, 10:11 PM
Wow I actually spent a good amount of time reading on that site...thanks...but isnt this the guy who doesnt like Mary? haha...and some posters don't really care for?

yes, he's a JERK OFF!! He never played tennis at any level to put him at a level to say the things he does.

RVD
Dec 15th, 2005, 10:14 PM
Sure ... and i'm Tina Turner!:haha:

I'm curious now, how she will compare to the top 20, or even top 50 players.
Also, if she's not progressing as fast as she'd like, how long will she hang in there? This should be an interesting year.

vogus
Dec 15th, 2005, 10:20 PM
But you can look at the match she played one year ago in Pattaya City, where she lost to a journeywoman player

she didn't just lose to any journeywoman player, she lost to arguably the WORST player on the tour in 2005, Weingartner, who finished 2-13 on the year and one of those wins was of course the Hingis match.

harloo
Dec 15th, 2005, 10:40 PM
I can't wait for Martina to get back on court and put to rest some of this hype and big talk. We will truly see if she has the goods to beat anyone in her next few tournaments.

:lol:

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:02 PM
Regardless - it's nice to her all this postitive talk of her play.

Mudbone
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:04 PM
My guess is we will read and hear this crap until she takes the court versus the top players and gets beatdown!! I'm sick of it already...It getting as ridiculous as the Sharapova hype after her Wimbledon win....

fammmmedspin
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:11 PM
The thing is that in practice, most players look awesome. Heck in practice I'm a 5.0 player, but in matches I'm 4.5. Put Hingis against Venus, Lindsay, Maria, Kim, or Justine and I guarentee that she wouldn't look like this world beater that they are claiming her to be. Sure she would still look good, but unless you are practicing with a peer, it just isn't the same.

I havn't seen this imposing top 10 since 2003 and its largely the same one Hingis could beat in 2000-2001. Given Justine, Venus and Serena's problems in 2005 the odds on Martina meeting them on a good day are limited unless things improve in 2006.Top 30 is good enough the rest of the time to have a good chance. with Kim it depends on whether she is at her USO or YEC/FO loss level. As for lindsay and Maria their performance level wasn't stellar either. Hingis's problem I would think would be the rounds before she meets the top 10 when she bumps into the Vladislovas, Schiavones, ALGs and the older consistent players like Elena L. If she is playing well enough to beat them, more than half the top 10 will be vulnerable too in any given week.

Shooter
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:15 PM
The problem was never how well SHE hit the ball. It was how well the opponent hit the ball. I'm reall interested in seeing how ell she runs. (Having her enter and win Sydney would sure turn a few heads, mine include.) Agreed. How well will she move? And not just for the first set. Will she be able to keep it up for several matches in hot conditions? Is she in shape? Is she motivated? Will she be able to get herself out to the practice court day after day and work hard? If she can't, she will lose to players who are doing that (i.e. the young, up and comers). Will her foot problems re-emerge? It will be interesting to see what happens with her.

K-Dog
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:19 PM
I havn't seen this imposing top 10 since 2003 and its largely the same one Hingis could beat in 2000-2001. Given Justine, Venus and Serena's problems in 2005 the odds on Martina meeting them on a good day are limited unless things improve in 2006.Top 30 is good enough the rest of the time to have a good chance. with Kim it depends on whether she is at her USO or YEC/FO loss level. As for lindsay and Maria their performance level wasn't stellar either. Hingis's problem I would think would be the rounds before she meets the top 10 when she bumps into the Vladislovas, Schiavones, ALGs and the older consistent players like Elena L. If she is playing well enough to beat them, more than half the top 10 will be vulnerable too in any given week.

You make it sound too easy for Hingis. It won't be and notice how I didn't say Serena because of her health. The top players are there for a reason and no-one will take it light on Martina. Martina's weaknesses in power and serve are still glaring and the top players will still pick on them.

Martian Stacey
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:21 PM
This is good news :bounce: I've been hearing from a lot of different sources that she is hitting the ball well :) I just hope she will handle professional matches ok :)

Cybelle Darkholme
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:22 PM
Propaganda.



Forget about weaknesses that were already in her game. The fact is she has not played competitive tennis in over three years. She will have to battle back just like everyone else. I bet most girls on the tour are eager to have a hingis to play and beat. Who wouldn't want to beat a former world number one?

Dawn Marie
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:23 PM
We shall see what we shall see. My only prediction is this: Martina is no fool, as I think everyone will agree, whether your like her or hate her. Anyway, she is not coming back to get her butt kicked. Why would she do that? She is much to prideful a girl to just hang around hoping to win the odd match here or there. She is coming back to do well.

Whether she can or cannot, only time will tell. But you can look at the match she played one year ago in Pattaya City, where she lost to a journeywoman player, and then see the big improvements as she ripped through the WTT season.

She seems to be working on things and I think, once she gets match tough, that she may surprise people.

If she doesn't, I don't think she'll stick around long.

Why wont she stick around? Venus is a champ but she has went through her slumps. Venus loves the game so much that she'll stick around even if she hasn't won a title for over a year?? Anyway, Martina is no fool but is she in this for the competition? Is she in it for the long haul? You take the losses with the wins. You don't quit the game. If Marti doesn't stick around while she's in the top 15-20 then why did she even come back??

vogus
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:28 PM
Martina's weaknesses in power and serve are still glaring and the top players will still pick on them.



As f-spin and Cybelle just noted, the top players aren't the only ones who are going to pick on the Hingis weaknesses. The ALG's and Schiavone's and Vaidosova's and Peng's are gonna be all over her butt as well.

K-Dog
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:35 PM
As f-spin and Cybelle just noted, the top players aren't the only ones who are going to pick on the Hingis weaknesses. The ALG's and Schiavone's and Vaidosova's and Peng's are gonna be all over her butt as well.

yeah, i know. fammedspin seems to think that the top 10 are just going to roll over and die when they play hingis.

crazyroberto6767
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:35 PM
Too short of a report to really base anything off it. It mentions a change in serve technique, but then doesn't go into how well she is hitting her serve. She's always hit a close-stanced backhand, especially on put-aways. She's a smart girl, she knows what works. Also, interesting that he calls the open-stanced backhand a "flavor of the month". I'm pretty sure it's here to stay, especially with the increased athleticism in the game. I wonder how her forehand is? Is she driving through it more, with less topspin, or is she going to try to stick with her (sometimes) loopy forehand? Who was she hitting with? Was it a male or female hitting partner, or was it a new coach? Was she actually doing any "real" running or was it somewhat "hit and giggle" tennis? Is she spending more time on volleys/approach shots, meaning she will try to incorporate increased net time in her game? How grueling/long was the practice? Too many questions left unanswered IMO, and I bet that's the way it's going to be until Sydney (or until she plays her first tourney). I think it's more interesting what he *didn't* say, rather than what he did.

CrossCourt~Rally
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:37 PM
:scratch: I wonder what the bookmakers will put her ODDS of her winning the 06 Aussie Open .... ;)

CoryAnnAvants#1
Dec 15th, 2005, 11:48 PM
I'm glad to hear Martina is hitting the ball well, but it doesn't mean much. Check out the practice courts at the US Open or any major tournaments. There's no difference in the quality of the ball being struck between #15 and #100 on tour. What it comes down to are a few minor elements of technique or footwork or mental attitude that are only evident during match play. There's no way to gauge that aspect of Martina's play until we get to a competitive match situation.

Andy.
Dec 16th, 2005, 12:19 AM
Good too see that she will come back in pretty good form, she has planned this comeback well.

Blonde_Ambition7
Dec 16th, 2005, 12:21 AM
at first all the martina stuff was annoying me...now i can't wait!

Sharapova's_Boy
Dec 16th, 2005, 12:29 AM
:woohoo:

dinhd82
Dec 16th, 2005, 03:08 AM
OMG so exciting!!!!!!!!

BarsonlyOne
Dec 16th, 2005, 04:34 AM
People keep gauging Martina's game play to that weingartner match. First of all, when she said that she would play that match, there was no real hype because she saw it as an exhibition (yes, perhaps as a test), but there was no news of her doing any kind of training, or anything special. And mind the scoreline 6-1, 2-1, when Hingis lost it. Was it because weingartner started blasting winners?? No. It was because of the physical side of the game that got Martina, not because of the amazing play of Marlene, which by any measure is not that great. So since then she has improved her fitness. So please everyone leave that match in pattaya this year alone.

Rub
Dec 16th, 2005, 08:16 AM
can't wait to see how well she matches up with the top players right now!

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Dec 16th, 2005, 09:48 AM
i really hope she can get to the 4th round of aussie

Munchen
Dec 16th, 2005, 09:59 AM
Martina :hearts:

October
Dec 16th, 2005, 11:55 AM
Thanks for the report, Spiceboy!! Its great to hear that shes playing well!!

jacobruiz
Dec 16th, 2005, 03:41 PM
I think these reports are exaggerated but it certainly seems as though Martina is hitting and playing more than competantly. The prospect of having her back on the tour and playing well is mind-blowing!:drool: :bounce:

Ryan
Dec 16th, 2005, 04:30 PM
Bleh, I hate articles that hype like this. I just hope Marti IS hitting great and moving well, hopefully she will do well at the Ozzie.

Bankhead Bounce
Dec 16th, 2005, 05:23 PM
Can't wait for Rena to play Chucky. :devil:

alfonsojose
Dec 16th, 2005, 05:24 PM
Can't wait for Rena to play Chucky. :devil:
Rennae Stubs ;)